Imouto Paradise Banned for “Glorifying Incest”

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The Tokyo government’s decree that Imouto Paradise 2 is unhealthy literature has been announced as being because the manga “improperly glorifies sexual activity between close relatives,” prompting Kadokawa to “voluntarily” withdraw all copies of the manga from sale.

Kadokawa says the recall “is to prevent undue bother for retailers,” and has cancelled all further shipments as well – an unfortunate decision given what a boon to sales an official stamp of incest glorification could be in future.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    03:30 19/05/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    because the manga “improperly glorifies sexual activity between close relatives,”

    Well, okay then -- what is the proper way to glorify sexual activity between close relatives?

    Incest should always be done properly.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:26 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    When it is done in something that is marketing as R-18.

    You people seem to forget that this bill that took effect in 2010 that has been affecting these titles are strictly for "all-ages" titles; whether or not they are shounen or seinen is not relevant. You can't make an argument that straight up sex (with penetration blurred by a white mark or slightly out of focus of the panel), especially that of an incest nature, should be able to be put in a book that isn't R-18 and sold exclusively to adults. As it stands, Imouto Para (which is a novelezation of a porn game that IS R-18) is not considered such.

    That's the only reason this provision is affecting it. If Kadokawa weren't dirty business men that actually followed the law as it's supposed to be and released their novel based off of an R-18 pornographic game, strictly for adults, none of the content would matter becuase... it would be for adults.

    This trend of cutting it as humnaly close as possible to pornography in "all-ages" titles is something that I don't understand about Japanese publishers. The content is only appropriate for adults, it should be marketed to adults. Why chance the title being in the crosshair for a ban like this and other titles that have been, and release something so obviously pornographic for minors to easily obtain when you can just rate it R-18 and get it sold to the market you want it to be sold to with no problems?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:03 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    If that's the case then why didn't they just restrict material like this to adults rather than ban it outright? Why specify that the reason was "glorification of incest", not just to youths but basically to everyone? Anyways, a restriction of any kind won't keep something out of the hands of anyone who wants it, one way or another, that's the ultimate truth. Words, thoughts, and ideas can never be fully silenced.

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    Comment by Daniel Park
    20:58 21/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's all about sales. The lower the age rating, the greater an audience they get for the material and the higher the sales potential goes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:17 21/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not like japan has many children right?
    So why not sell it as adult material though.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:55 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because more sales = more money and teenagers aged 13-17 are a notoriously horny bunch. Since they can't have sex legally or without parental involvement, they need fap material as much as adults need less of it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:20 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Such shameful ignorance.
    You forget the AOC in Japan is 13... and Japanese school girls begin whoring themselves out in elementary school for designer bags. Why don't u learn a thing or too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:51 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    My Little Sister Can't Be This Pregnant!

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:51 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Full blooded incest pregnant end of course. The tokyo government had just enought of cop outs, step-siblings and no endings.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:16 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    They need to increase population after all...

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:12 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    To think that some "politician" even suggested to DECREASE the population to about 100 million...

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:47 19/05/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    This is why some mangaka should band together and put their borderline hentai manga Online with an affordable monthly subscription.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:45 19/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.8)

    And use a foreign host with no ip logging and a bitcoin payment system in place.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:46 19/05/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    And before I forget, release everything uncensored. With file uploading confidentiality agreements & royalties dished out with bitcoin as well.

    That is how you say fuck you to Tokyo & Japan.

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    Comment by Indy
    22:52 19/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Dude, what happen between Pearl Harbor or Hiroshima/Nagasaki is just a war between two fractions, as simple as that. It has nothing to do with which side is right or wrong. If you decide to get involved in a war, get ready to defeat or defeated. Pearl harbor shows that japan's victorious moment, while Hiroshima/Nagasaki shows the opposites. That simple. There is no on is right or wrong in this war, just some hippies like you who tried to act smart by siding on one of them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:55 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    In retaliation idiot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:57 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I mean soldiers

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:27 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    This article is about manga not ww2 so please stop talking about Hiroshima and Pearl Harbour

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:57 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    At least Pearl Harbor was full of soldier, not civils you fucktard

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    Comment by Epsilon
    08:00 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then why are you here, retard?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:35 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol you guys are all fuckin twats.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:15 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pearl Harbor was deliberately provoked. Read the McCollum Memorandom, you stupid fucks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:56 24/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol! they just need to host the servers in a country where incest and uncensored porn is not a crime and there're plenty to choose, there's no need to make things complicated.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:36 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    @08:28
    I believe it is a shitty format too, but the fact remains that it is popular with pirates to conduct their untraceable transactions. And since you do not want to make it easy for the cops to track down, it makes a solid pick to dish out royalties & membership fees.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:28 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    And who the fuck uses bitcoin these days? Find some other payment to work out.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Pearl Harbor deserved it.

    Comment by Anonymous

    If you hate them for that you clearly have no clue what the USA did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:34 19/05/2014 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Yeah. I fucking hate those Japs... For Pearl Harbor.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:23 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Some Mangakas had already done it because they are sick of drawing for magazine with strict guidelines, but those sites are all in Japanese and I think its pay for a small sum per chapter routine.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:38 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually they should just stop selling all titles in Tokyo go elsewhere! This will cripple the economy if all manga publishers stopped selling anything in Tokyo people would not go there for anything.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:11 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Doubt it will 'cripple the economy' when those who still want to get the manga could just get it outside of Tokyo or have it mailed/couriered in to Tokyo. The Tokyo metropolitan area isn't exactly the world's largest area.

    Besides, I think this ruling concerns the manga's distribution throughout the country, not just in Tokyo.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:42 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    @11:50 35mil out of about 124mil people, so more than just 5%, but again the Tokyo Metropolitan area isn't very large in terms of land coverage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Tokyo_Area#Various_definitions_of_Tokyo.2FKant.C5.8D

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Tokyo-Kanto_definitions%2C_Tokyo_UEA.png [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Tokyo-Kanto_definitions,_Tokyo_UEA.png]

    As you can see here, it's barely 100km on its longest dimension, so regardless of where you are it would be at most 50km or so by train for you to get out of the area to go and buy your week/month's supply of manga; or have it mailed/couriered in.

    The increase in commuting or use of the postal/courier services would make up for the deficit in direct sales of manga. Japan's also the kind of country where, if one store out of a chain doesn't have something in stock or doesn't sell it themselves, you can have it ordered in from one of their other branches and they'll send it to the branch you were at or to your home.

    So really all that would happen is they'd inconvenience the residents of the Tokyo Metropolitan Area, but not prevent them from getting their manga.

    Also, I think you overestimate the value of Manga in the area's economy... I highly doubt its absence would have a remarkable impact in the short term.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:50 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't they have like 1/5~1/4 of the Japanese population in Tokyo area?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:00 19/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Things are getting stupider in Tokyo, someone really deserve to get fired!

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    Comment by Anonymous
    06:31 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey ,how about go get comic artists in the US to draw some incest comics then see what parents say about them when they found out their kids are reading those crazy sh**. If you can't even get the mass in the states to accept incest which is somewhat of a taboo, what rights do you have to criticize other countries?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:57 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    There are many stories in western literature that contain incest, as well as some porn that basically uses the incest taboo in various ways as part of their "stories", yet I've never read about any western countries banning such things on grounds of incest glorification .

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:44 22/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    @06:03 - damn, Germany still banning books? You think they'd be the last to do that now...

    and yeah, while I never mentioned anything like that specifically, I think I remember seeing some obscure adult comics with incestous themes on amazon here and there (a lot of people don't seem to know that there is acually an american equivilant of hentai out there) cant name any specifics thought, sorry

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:03 22/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    "There are many stories in western literature that contain incest" - literature, yes. But in comics? Link, plz!

    "yet I've never read about any western countries banning such things on grounds of incest glorification" - there have been cases of literature that got banned on grounds of incest (not sure whether "glorification" was a reason, too) in Germany. You never hear about these books again once this happened.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:59 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    WHAT ROAD-SIDE elementary school did you attend!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:02 19/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Typical. Japanese. Need. To. Conform.

    (facedesk ~ facedesk ~ facedesk ~ facedesk ~ facedesk)

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:01 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    They can't. They been brainwashed at an early age to bow their heads down and not fight back.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:28 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Have you ever visited Japan? The plus side to their "need to conform" is that you won't run into any loud mouth pieces of shit fucking things up for everyone. Everyone does their part to keep their country from being a shithole to live in, unlike in America, where everyone thinks they're fucking king of the world, and acts on that shitty view of themselves.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:14 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I rather people be honest than put on airs while harboring who knows what about you in their minds and being two-faced.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:26 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Conform by making yet another story about banging sisters instead.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:24 19/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I'm sure theres more to it but damn they single out this single one manga for "encouraging incest"? It's practically a whole genre in the manga industry.

    There gonna start cracking down on the rest of their "unhealthy literature"? They better build a bigger bonfire for their book burning because the Japanese love them incest stories.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:03 19/05/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    For the same reason everything gets singled out in Japan, failing to pay fees and bribes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:20 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    They should just stamp a warning label on the cover saying "mating between siblings has high chance of retardy in offsprings" and then a picture of Joffrey under it...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:02 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    That is not the way genetics work

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:55 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    10:01 citations or shut up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:10 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    1. These are fantasy stories anyways. In manga/anime and especially hentai there are far more crazy things happening that wouldn't be wise to do in real life. If a child comes from incest in a fictional story like these it'd more likely be written to come out superhuman than deformed.

    2. That's assuming the incestuous couple even wants to have their own children. Just get snipped or get those tubes tied and there, no problem.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:08 23/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    But complications still happened, like hemophilia.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:21 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Except that mating between siblings is 100% safer than mating between gays.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:01 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Except that mating between siblings does NOT have a high change of mental impairment of the children, there have been numerous studies that proved that beyond a doubt.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:23 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It actually wasn't banned; it's just 18+ in Tokyo. A lot of the more intense stuff was already voluntarily marketed as 18+ and thus unaffected.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:49 19/05/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Tokyo makes up 9.6% of Japan's population and in a small market dependent upon every sale to recover costs & turn a profit, a loss of nearly 10% can be seen as a death sentence.

    Not to mention that a large number of publishers are based in Tokyo Prefecture, so they unable to publish such materials for other prefectures without breaking the law.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:20 20/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    In detail, the new law stipulates that articles containing incest material or depictions, REGARDLESS whether they contain any erotic/sexual scenes or not, WILL be marketed under the 18+ label. In brief:
    No Incest + Non-H = All Ages
    Incest + H = 18+
    Incest + Non-H = 18+ (previously it's All Ages)
    As for the last possibility, you get the idea.

    Problem is, future re-releases of previously "allowed" publications like OreImo, Imouto Okashii, or even Kono Naka ni Hitori, Imouto ga Iru! could be hit (with the 18+ label) as well in future re-releases.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:15 24/05/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Technically Fruits Basket could be hit by this new law. there's a whole ton of cousin fucking goin on in that story and remember, incest does not mean brother-sister, it's family members.







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