MS: “We’re Dropping Kinect From Xbox One For You”


Microsoft’s decision to finally unbundle Kinect from the Xbox One and in the process equal the PlayStation 4 in price has been hailed as the last of its humiliating Xbox Onw climb-downs, which have seen such amazing new features as support for used games and the ability to function without an Internet connection added in response to consumer demand.

Microsoft is spinning the decision to provide a version of the console sans Kinect as a deft response to “your feedback”:

Since the beginning, we have focused on delivering great games and entertainment experiences for you.

Your feedback matters to us and it shapes the products and services we build.

Your feedback showed up in the Xbox One console we launched back in November and in the monthly updates we’ve delivered since.

Today, we’re excited to share more ways your feedback is impacting the products we build.

First, beginning on June 9th, in all markets where Xbox One is sold, we will offer Xbox One starting at $399*. This is a new console option that does not include Kinect.


If you buy Xbox One for $399 and later decide you want to have all the experiences Kinect enables, we will also offer a standalone sensor for Xbox One later this fall. We’ll share more details about the standalone Kinect for Xbox One in the coming months.

Additionally, the Xbox Live Gold requirement for many services is being watered down:

Next, we’re bringing more value to Xbox Live Gold members and offering all Xbox 360 and Xbox One owners access to entertainment apps whether or not you have an Xbox Live Gold membership

Although the decision to drop mandatory Kinect may have had more to do with the irrelevance of Kinect to most games and the sales boost a cheaper console might represent, the move also means that more circumspect Xbox One gamers will also be spared the hassle of disabling their new MSNSA monitoring device – although most still seem to think it far too late to rescue this generation from the jaws of Sony.

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  • Anonymous says:

    Good. Now maybe we can drop this notion that games benefit from motion controls…’cause they don’t. I don’t like flailing around my living room like a raver spaz to play a game, thanks.

  • Anonymous says:

    Too little. Too late.

    If they really wanted to score a comeback, they should have dropped the kinect model to 400 and sold the core system at 300.

    Right now they’re being beaten in every market, so unless they can at least gain ground back in the states, it won’t be long til 3rd party developers begin to entirely focus on PS4. And the only way that’s going to happen to to beat Sony in cost. Not tie with them. They lost that option the second Sony jumped far ahead.

  • Anonymous says:

    It’s a basic mistake for Microsoft marketing, I’m surprised they actually didn’t go with dual option from start, allowing Xbox one with and without kinect, that way they actually could have toppled Sony’s flag.

    Instead they self facepalm allowed Sony to take the initiative and reacted way too late to atcualy make a comeback.

    Wjile PS3 and PS4 have their quirks their biggest and best selling option is BluRay Support and an actual 720p and 1080p support (HD and Full HD) which is still lacking in Xbox, which is kinda weird considering it to be a next gen station that keeps to old tech optical medium.

    After all, PS3 and PS4 also support DVD5 and DVD9 discs but using a BluRay disc is so much easier for the entire system in overall, and it’s better for customers as well.

    Another pros for Sony is a lot bigger HDD being bigger than Miscrosfts 4-5 gigs. Seriously, a corporation of that magnitude offering such an inferior station for pretty much the same price ? PS4 wins before the race even begins.

    Xbox one:
    DVD5/DVD9 only (doubt you woudl run a CD, although can’t say no if it’s music, I mean, come one, it’s Audio CD, even 5$ radios wit ha cd player run those)
    NO HD/Full HD
    399$ for no HD and no BluRay ?
    Congrats to idiots buying that.

    Sony PS3/PS4:
    CD/DVD5/DVD9/BD support
    HD and Full HD support
    399$ for that ?
    Yes please 🙂

    Obviously not mentioning the same features both stations allow like region free and downloaded games, but if I’m not mistaken ps4 allows emulation of ps2 games. If so it’s much more interesting for many players who love their old PS2 games, and additionally, I noticed that PS4 games are slightly cheaper than Xbox ones.

    • Anonymous says:

      same price at least in the USA…
      over in Europe its totally different story.
      Sony forced prices up week before release from 590 usd to 660 usd here and making all the shops that had “fixed price pre-order” take the hit… the local GameStop lost 5000 usd on that.
      later Sony have increased price once more up to 690 while there is no shops that sells it below 710 usd.

      the Xbox One however is 660 usd and its reported to drop down to 575 usd when the Kinekt is removed (even dough its not officially “released” in all the countries its for sale, even up here in the Scandinavian countries…)

      unless Sony drops prices it would be an 20% price difference on em. its also reported that Xbox gonna run with the same price-setup for the games as they had on the X360 vs PS3, meaning the games will be an 10-20usd cheaper too here.

      even dough the PS4 is tiny bit more powerful, takes less space, its still quite simple math for the parents thats gonna buy a new console for their kids if the prices keeps up here…

        • Anonymous says:

          those numbers sounds correct for Scandinavia, or Norway specific… bloody hell, the PS3 was even 1000 dollars on release there and the games where all over 125 each, the PS2 at the same time was like 200 dollars for the console with 2 controllers, memorycard and a game and games was 40 to 75 dollars new…

          helped some friends getting some PS3’s at release over the Atlantic, they sold em even dough it was no warranty and they where NTSC on the market for over 5000 dollars… each…

          dough, if PS4 wasn’t selling better i would be sorry for Sony. Sony had all its PR indirectly spamming shit on how inferior the Xbox One, MS is stepping constantly in the shit and the Xbox One is out in like… 1\3 of the countries that PS4 is on sale in?

          but like Anon says if the games is cheaper and the machine is cheaper they are going to sell well when the parents going for holiday shopping, but its long time before Black Friday and December so Sony have good time at strike back

  • Anonymous says:

    its still at least $200 too rich for my blood. thanks microsoft, but ill wait till you sell your locked down underpowered pc at a price point that is more representative of the hardware.

  • Anonymous says:

    Microsoft’s PR, always excited for eating their own words after their masters, their customers, give them a complete beating for their misbehaviour.
    They must think the M in Microsoft is in fact the M in Masochist.

  • I’m happy to see Microsoft now being aware that their audience will NOT always put up with their shit.

    Now if you could finally put all Xbox 360 games up online so I can finally make the transition to Xbox One, that would be greeeat.

    • Anonymous says:

      “Although the decision to drop mandatory Kinect may have had more to do with the irrelevance of Kinect to most games and the sales boost a cheaper console might represent”

      I think that is a problem, because the PS4 does not bundle the cam. Since most games are Multi Platform, there is just no way the devs would do something innovative with Kinect because they have to build their game for the general audience which may or may not have a camera, be it kinect or PScam.

      Another instance, where a good dictator is better than democracy. Hinders innovation.

        • Anonymous says:

          Yeah, Kinect was mildly amusing for a bit but the novelty wore off pretty fast. Remember the Milo demo? Where’s THAT kind of interactivity? THAT sort of use would be cool. But instead I’m waving my arms around or fake-jumping in my living room and having the motions misinterpreted a little too often. It’s just not worth it.

          I think we’ve exhausted the motion control gimmick. The Wii was cute but after that I had had enough. Playstation’s Move was a colossal failure. We don’t need motion controls or tablet controllers. Let’s get back to core game play with a nice, functional gamepad.

      • Anonymous says:

        another instance where a person fails to understand “innovation” does not equal doing anything.
        innovation requires a certain prerequisite of usefulness.

        you can create a new wheel, but if it does absolutely nothing to improve on the old wheel other than be different, that’s not innovation.

        if your new wheel solves a problem or satisfies a need that doesn’t actually exist, that’s not innovation.

        simply being an “other” or an “alternate” does not make something an innovation. it just makes it a thing that may or may not prove to be anything meaningful as many things exist and most aren’t innovations.
        and will never be considered innovations due to lack of a billion dollar corporate funded sales campaign selling that idea for even new product to the legions of people who will eat up such sales pitches.

        Kinect was mandatory for the XBOne as is up until yesterday and yet =
        1) NOBODY was actually using it for anything
        2) the biggest XBOne title to date DID NOT USE IT FOR ANYTHING
        3) and devs of several games coming down the development pipeline have said that they too weren’t going to be using the Kinect and weren’t even going to bother fake using Kinect for anything
        those facts say a lot about Kinect’s value as “innovation”.

        • Anonymous says:

          heh~ creating the new wheel was what a Israel farmer just did for wheel chairs but also could be expanded to All vehicles too. He literal invented the wheel.
          Any peripheral for a gaming system will work if the player doesn’t have to move anything more than fingers. The reason the wii was successful was because the controls reacted sluggishly, till “gamers” demanded 1 to 1 reaction finding out that they really, Really had rotten motor skills and got worse at the game for it.. and stopped playing that system.

        • Anonymous says:

          Kinect was mandatory for the XBOne as is up until yesterday and yet =
          1) NOBODY was actually using it for anything
          2) the biggest XBOne title to date DID NOT USE IT FOR ANYTHING
          3) and devs of several games coming down the development pipeline have said that they too weren’t going to be using the Kinect and weren’t even going to bother fake using Kinect for anything
          those facts say a lot about Kinect’s value as “innovation”.

          You obviously didn’t care to read my post.
          1) Because most titles are multi platform
          2) which one would that be? Titanfall? That’s multi platform as well.
          3) again, most games are multi platform.

          The PS4 trackpad has the same issues. Probably no one uses it (for innovative game changing stuff) because Xbox One does not have it. But they can at least use it to duplicate stuff or make some thing more accessible because let’s say binding leaning around corners on a trackpad for the PS4 version is a matter of a few hours extra coding, while doing kinect stuff is probably a little more complicated and too much extra work for a little gimmick. And as I said, game changing things cannot be done since firstly too much extra work for a multi platform title which has to be balanced on all platforms and secondly the PS4 people would riot if the XB1 version was considerably superior because of that.

          So basically the only way for kinect development would be kinect only titles, or xbox one exclusives in general, which microsoft just killed, because now, devs cannot count on kinect being present, so an xbox 1 exclusive to a developer considering kinect is like a multi platform title now.
          They would either need to somehow balance controller only gaming and controller + kinect or make it kinect only which would further cut down target demographic.
          That why triple a xbox exclusives don’t really use it up till now. And after just half a year time on the market the devs didn’t really have that much time to utilize the guarantee that kinect is present on any xbox one unit yet. Dream is over now. Kinect will stay being a gimmick.

    • Anonymous says:

      I never considered the price point of just about anything except large expenditures like cars, boats and housing. I would gladly pay 2000 dollars for a nice cell phone with 3x battery life. A couple hundred dollars is nothing if you consider how much time during its life cycle you are going to use it.

      • Anonymous says:

        Maybe you. But think about countries where you can eat a whole month with 100 over even 200 bucks. When you have to save money for over a year to buy something like this, 100$ is a difference as big as a mountain.

        • Even 99.9% of the people in the US would laugh at his idea of spending $2000 on a cell phone.

          But on first world people buying it well a lot of people consider a console a toy and it’s usually something they buy mainly for their kids.
          A $100 can make or break the decision to buy the device.
          This even held true when the economy was great.

  • Anonymous says:

    ITs pretty much MS trying to at least put up a fight after the beating is getting from Sony’s PS4….in the end Xbone should really be called X180 after all this back tracking…..

    Keep trying to catch up MS!!!

  • starsplash says:

    So glad I didn’t buy my xbox one. More to do with Im in Taiwan and the fact I still have so many 360 games to through than not buying one to be honest. I don’t want the kinetic at all.

    • Anonymous says:

      And any games are now “HD” upgrades of PS3 game and $60 games, broken up into pieces and added on later as micro(macro)transactions.

      Pay full whack, for unfinished, buggy mess.

      Have rest of game in installments later…for an addition $10 or more, each time.

      Hope the industry eats itself sooner than later.

      • Anonymous says:

        amen to that.. but when you see how many shit loads of $$ people are ready to invest in “F2P” games, obviously the industry isn’t gonna stop taking us for morons anytime soon..
        well let’s hope am wrong and they’ll go back to releasing full non beta game someday..

      • Leaves me to wonder why the WiiU still gets shit on. Funny thing is, because Nintendo still insists on region-locking, I bought my WiiU imported partially because I never had a Japanese Wii and wanted to take advantage of the backwards compatibility. But even then, its library of new games, as limited as it is, seems way more promising than the other two.