Japan has announced a 5 year plan to rearm itself which sees it acquiring its own marines, drones and F-35s in response to the massive military buildup on the mainland.
Japan’s newly unveiled “national security strategy” (or more accurately, its “beat China by ourselves when the US abandons us” strategy) features a modest 2.6% increase in military spending over the next 5 years compared to the 10% year on year increases China has been busying itself with in recent years.
Of more significance than this paltry increase is what Japan intends to spend it on – for the first time, the self defence forces will establish a unit of marines capable of amphibious assaults on islands, supplemented by drones, stealth fighters in the form of 28 F-35s, and even 17 of the hated Osprey.
The navy also gets two new destroyers and five new subs, and, of course, the rest of its “escort destroyers” – which it surely has no intention of using to launch its new F-35s.
A redeployment of additional Japanese forces from Hokkaido to Okinawa and a promised re-evaluation of the ban on the joint-development and exports of military systems round out the plan.
Notably however, anti-missile systems are absent from the plan, as is a “first-strike” capable force – for now at least.
China as usual consider all this a sign of rampant Japanese nationalism with no possible connection to its own actions:
“Japan’s unreasonable criticism of China’s normal maritime activities and its hyping up of the China threat has hidden political motives.”









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Those Hokkaido based soldiers getting a redeployment to Okinawa must be so goddamn happy. No more freezing to death.
Haha. That was the first thing I thought as well when reading the article. Even Ospreys wouldn't diminish a soldier's happiness after such a relocation to a southern island.
But now they gotta deal with shitty Okinawans. Okinawans are a bunch of asspained inbred hick farmers, whom cannot stand that their women want to get fucked by foreign big dick servicemen.
28 F-35s? America has some gullible customers; those things are overpriced like crazy!(and have very high maintenance costs) They would be WAAAAAAAY better off buying older jets and simply equipping them with new gear.(that would still be better than most of China's stuff)
If china actually got serious, this is just a delay to inevitable rape of Tokyo.
On the other hand, US would be happy to wipe china off the map.
Japs have no more uses. Destroy them both!
Fak, at least save the mangakas!!! They should be given international protection. same with studio ghibli and tales of studios. As for SE it may finally get better with americans taking over
It's called 'deterrence'. The more losses China has to suffer to invade Japan, the less likely they are to invade them.
(This was also what kept Switzerland out of World War II. They were surrounded on all sides by the Axis, which was much larger than them, but taking Switzerland would cost a ridiculous number of casualties so despite Hitler's wanting to get rid of those pesky Swiss, they were never invaded.)
Deterrence only works when you can damage the other party enough to seriously degrade their national standing.
Numerical and qualitative parity is too much in terms of manpower and motivation. Japs know they deserve to get fucked.
Rape of Tokyo. The recordings will sell like hot cakes.
Hitler had no reason to invade a neutral state. Spain & Ireland, both neutral, were also untouched.
Just think for one moment, if they wiped japan off the map, the game industry would consist solely of first person shooters and consoles that will IMPLODE the week after they are bought. And i'm sure nobody would want that.
In addition, all manga and anime production would stop, causing tons of people to either:
1. Rage on the internet
Two. Rage in the streets
C. Spiral into a deep depression
IV. Actually do something useful with their lives or
5. Start watching american series/movies
And unless you're an extreme sadist, these are things you don't want :p
Nah, the only ones who would really do that, would be wiped out with Japan, since thats where they live.
And that answers the question of how ignorant you can be...
No Strike Witches?
>beat China by ourselves
>F-35
LOL.
For country size to expenditure ratio, Japan actually spends more money on military than China and given that they have been spending the same amount years before China even began increasing its spending (since all these data are measured in USD that may lead to an offset in exchange rate/PPP). Also real values > percentages (also in economics which tend to give the unsuspecting masses the impression of an oncoming threat even when it might not e.g. 10% of 1mil is just 100k instead of 10% to 10mil which is 1mil; 900k difference)
ummm, china is now #2 economy so 10% is a hell of a lots of money. and that is supposing 10% is really 10%, those are china's figures not facts.
China builds a purpose made air force base with multiple runways bunkered hangers for the fighters and different bunkers for amo and c3. there is an electic fence, guard posts and a minefield. Guess what, the mines, the fighters, the sam's, the ammo and the paypackets of the air force who take over after it is all finnished are the only things on the military budget. Building the whole shebang is on a state infrastructure fund, the same one that builds hospitals lol.
air base was only an example to show how they game the system, and the real reason thier neighbours are nervous. No one knows how much china is actually spending, but it isn't 10%!
@ anon 6:32 18/12/2013
I've been to many parts of mainland China, they have visible jet fighters at every non international airport (pretty sure they have some at the international ones also, just not visibly there).
Also from what I've heard also is they have already stolen American Stealth Tech. here's some links:
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/02/new-pictures-show-second-chinese-stealth-fighter-being-test-flown/
http://rt.com/news/china-stealth-drone-flight-127/
China now, is as much, if not more, of a world power than the U.S.S.R. was. But They are not trying to fall by going into the Cold war trap that Russia had against the U.S. I doubt they are going to match the U.S. budget spending any time in the near future. They are taking advantage of their economic growth to get as much info/technological patents from the influx of tech companies that have come flooding in since they opened itself up to "Capitalism". Their Schools are not structured to nurture Creativity, as much as it is structured to memorize (much like how the west in starting to structure it's schools, for the poorer regions anyways)...think I should stop there as I can go on forever about this stuff.
hopefully, China will equip it's soldiers with self exploding weapons...
You mean China will "pirate" japanese kamikaze tactics from the WWII?
While you are correct that it would be a rip off of the kamikaze methods, the fact is China has more than enough troops to do that. However it doesn't matter because China doesn't spend as remotely as much on military as the United States does. Japan is right behind the US in military spending so that should give you some idea just how much of a difference between the military might of the Japanese in comparison to the Chinese.
that would be a solution, as most of the recent J-whatever planes aren't able to take off from the not Vary.. Liaonig with combat ordnance (or so i've been told)
Oh look an uninformed idiot who is making up shit about which he knows noting about.
The Top 5 counties by military spending are
1 United States 682.0 Billion a year
2 China 166.0 Billion a year
3 Russia 90.7 Billion a year
4 United Kingdom 60.8 Billion a year
5 Japan 59.3 Billion a year
http://www.sipri.org/ you can look it up yourself on this website here, and not bull bullshit out of your ass next time.
China's building stealth drones, which just so happens to carry onboard charges that can be used for either self destruction of sensitive equipment or last ditch kamikaze attack. The irony there...
Drones are smaller and takes far less effort and cost to make stealth. Once radar cross section shrinks down to bird sized, stealth is achieved.
The cost of production and maintenance is also far lower.
The Chinese are spending cents on the dollar while Japan buys overpriced American products of failed projects like Osprey. You'd think they'll be better off developing their own drones instead.
It's to be expected, isn't it? The constant shit moves by China as of late sort of spurred this on.
Now China is sitting there saying "Japan has hidden political motives!" is like a kid pushing another and then getting upset when they finally get pushed back.
"But I didn't do any thing! Why would they be so mean to me?!"
The only move China's putting on is helping Japan bankrupt itself. The F-35 and Ospreys are the most expensive failures produced by the military industrial complex to date.
China's spending cents on the dollar for stuff they make in house, while Japan buy American castoffs to line the pockets of corporations.
F-35 is a jack of all trades that managed worse specs air to air compared to both the F-22 that it's supposed to replace and the new chinese stealth fighter. Air to ground, it's worse than the A-10, which it's also supposed to replace.
The crash prone Osprey fares no better. It's supposed to boast high cruise speeds of a fixed wing aircraft and takeoff of a chopper. But in the 3 decades since its inception, conventional chopper speeds caught up. Now, it's only 10% faster than conventional choppers the chinese use, while far more expensive to build and maintain. In a few more years, that edge will probably be gone.
The Americans bankrupted the Soviet Union in their arms race because of different economics systems. It happened despite the wastes and inefficiencies of the military industrial complex, not because of it.
I see you are misinformed. The F-35 is not meant to replace the F-22, as neither is yet operational. We are keeping the A-10 for now, and the Osprey is actually horrible. As for the F-35 being an expensive failure, you'll note that Japan is better off with that than their outdated aircraft, and it will surely be subsidized by US taxpayers. We do love our allies. As for me, the only complaint I have toward the military industrial complex is that I'm forced to wear UCP, which is the most awful camo ever to be made in the history of mankind.
The F-35 isn't a bad aircraft is just very expensive for what it is since it tries to be a jack of all trades.
They should have produced both the Lockheed and Boeing Joint strike fighter designs and optimized them for different roles.
The project was a total mess though. The project manager should of been kicked in the ass for it.
Time will tell on how well they do. Foreign countries are buying them
F-35 is a mess. In every role that it's supposed to take over in, it's inferior to earlier specialized aircraft. Modern warfare is all about specialization, there is no place for jack of all trades.
F-22 is still the gold standard. The only reason the chinese stealth fighter is able to match its specs for cents on the dollar is by narrowly focusing on air to air. They've got the right idea.
@07:51
The F-35 is still better than the now aged Harrier. Is the jump in specs worth the cost however? Let's leave that for the future.
Considering the F-35 is a jack of all trade, I remind that it is not just trying to replace but also adds stealth and a radar that won't be matched by its competitor whose still having trouble making a domestic engine and has to get it from the Russians. Neither stealth or radar quality will be published for their full specs, what should be noted is if Japan will make their own drones or work with allies to bolster new projects.
There isn't just America to look for in military or economics. Theres Australia with huge gas and oil deposits just in the neighbourhood. What about Germany whose just entered the drone market and has also been making ships for awhile. How about that little place thats a beachhead size thing called Israel notorious for their computer programming and drones?
@17:52
Radar profile for the Chinese fighter has been published, and it's the same size as F-22, far smaller than F-35, despite being physically larger.
Radar range for the Chinese stealth fighter has not been published, but F-35's 150km detection range of 1 meter sized object is anything but impressive. The Russian stealth fighter's radar range is published though, and it's 300km for 1 meter object, twice as much as F-35. Every major nation already has 4th generation fighters with radar range far outdistancing the F-35, whose designers had to compromise in order to get ground coverage.
Yeah, the F-35 has nothing to do with the F-22. The F-22 is a dedicated air superiority fighter and appears to be pretty fearsome based on what is publicly known and coming along well considering it is still early in it's life cycle. Nearly every complex aircraft in history had several years of problems to work out and the F-22 is no different. Pilots of the F-22 often remark that it makes things too easy and boring and in simulated combat single F-22 often destroy groups of 4-5 F-15s, with the F-15 being the dominant air superiority fighter of the last generation with a kill ratio of over 100 enemies down to zero loses. The main draw back is the price.. oh sweet jebus the price.
On paper, and in (often-rigged) exercises, the F-22 mops the floor with everything out there. And on paper, and in (often-overly optimistic) exercises, the Phantom mopped the floor with everything out there in its day. And then Vietnam happened, and things didn't quite work out that way in real life. Yes, the Phantom was still superior, but nowhere near as superior as the Americans thought it would be, and the US military took horrendous losses in the skies over North Vietnam. No, really: there were F-105 units that had pilot loss rates of 70% and loss rates for aircraft that went *over* 100% - meaning they lost every airframe they showed up to fight with and a good chunk of the replacements, too. Because that's what happens in real war: it starts, and things immediately begin *not* going the way they went on paper.
As for the F-15's kill record, the vast majority of that is the US and/or Israel against Arab armies, which are total jabronis at conventional warfare. Especially in a prestigious area like flying fighters, where getting accepted for a slot has always been about connections and nepotism. So no, sorry, I'm not overly impressed there.
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I can't believe you're comparing the Phantom to the Raptor, R&D methodology have gone through multiple generations since then.
The Raptor has been proven in numerous exercises and actual combat.
The F-35 on the other hand...
Sure, and the Pentagon still can't say what will work in actual combat (Which the F-22 has been in... when, exactly? Flying CAP over battlefields full of Taliban peasants who have no Air Force doesn't count) until it happens. Remember Rumsfeld and his "unknown unknowns"? One thing that never changes is the Pentagon's penchant for overconfidence, test-rigging, self-delusion, and bullshit.
Ospreys are no longer crash-prone due to re-engineering. The main advantage of Osprey is the range, which choppers do not have, since even though they can be fast, they waste too much fuel just hovering which could be better spent on forward motion.
I'm not an Osprey fanatic, I'm just stating facts.
Range? Many of the older generation transport choppers that's been serving as workhorse in the US air force and navy for decades boast longer range.
No. They wanted Osprey for its vertical takeoff plus fixed wing speed, which is now a joke, 3 decades later, when they finally worked out [most of] the bugs.
How about altitude? Fixed wing have higher service ceiling far away from RPGs.
14:34
Should have kept around more nazi scientists to solve such problems.
RPGs? They have zero chance of hitting anything that's cruising. It's not a video game.
While hovering to unload, Osprey is just as vulnerable as any chopper.
Back up with facts please, thank you. All you're doing is spewing garbage that you heard from someone or from something you read, with no facts to back it up. What you don't seem to understand is that most of the smack talk against the osprey is from 1. People who just want Americans out of Japan or 2. Retired military that are pissed that their investments were screwed up when the U.S. decided to use and order more of the osprey. Never trust what ex-military says publicly about any type of vehicle, they can't while in service, but once they get out, they can and will use their knowledge to invest, so they try to alter public view however they can, but never back up what they say with facts as documents have "conveniently" disappeared, or that they couldn't tell the truth early because they were "forced to stay in service to keep thier mouth shut."
Ask yourself, what kind of retard doesn't recognize Osprey as the mess that it is?
IMO, china still holds a grudge towards Japan because of what they did during WW2 and china is looking to get back at Japan.
The problem is Japan is now a peaceful country, if china attack now, they'd look like the bad guys.
That's why china is bullying and flexing their military muscular might, they want a reason to attack Japan.
It's a provocation from china's part, nothing new.
China is an expansionist. They are using history as a tool to fuck its' neighbors. Just like Nazi Germany, they want to re-draw the world-map.
That's funny because a long time ago China had way more territories than it does now.
Actually the Senkaku islands is made up history. What importance does it have that they had a map, they never occupied it. Argentina have more rights over Falklands than China have over Senkaku. At least there where argentineans living in the Falklands before the British took it.
Anyway both islands became government tools to manipulate the population.
History has nothing to do with it. Their "neighbors" took their land in the past because they can, and now they're taking it back because they can. It's all about power, justification is an afterthought.
The Falklands had Argentinian troops at it at some point in time, and fishermen, not inhabitants.
Yes they're using the island as political reasons, but it's to save their own asses from a revolution. You see they use an external hate source as a scapecoat to divert the hate towards the government. Nonetheless China is playing with fire, sooner or later something bad will erupt: either a war or a revolution.
I see a revolution coming, democracy will win over China someday.
You know I still find it ironic that China is fighting japan over an island that should belong to Taiwan.
But, but, all we ever wanted to do was fuck with people!
Why is everyone so mean to me?!
dumb fuckin chnks/
Let's all bomb China! XD
Yeah because Japan "did nothing" to China.... Just raped the hell out of the whole mainland, practiced genocide, torture and human experiments on them... you know, just "nothing" to get "upset" about...
They've been apologizing since the 1950s and specifically to China starting in the 1970s-2000s.
Want evidence? here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan
WW2 thing is old and whoever takes it as more than just a history lesson is just plain retarded, especially in this day and age.
Interestingly, invasion of China and Korea is absent from Japanese textbooks, which instead dedicate entire chapters to American "invasion" of their island holdings.
Their "history lessons" refer to a different history than that of the world the rest of us live in.
@15:44
All the countries that didn't emerge in glorious victory in WW2 write a different tale.
@16:06
Germany didn't. And I'm German, btw.
What Japanese need to recognize is their leaders during WWII did them no favors, just as Hitler and Nazis did us no favors. But no, they chose to worship these war criminals in a temple instead. It's stupefying.
Korea was never 'invaded' btw. The Koreans voluntarily asked for a union with Japan. Koreans were legally Japanese, and fought in the Imperial Japanese Army during WW2. Korean hypocrites only pretended to be victims after they lost ww2.
YOU MUST BE A FKN RETARD IF YOU BELIEVE THAT. "KOREA WAS NEVER INVADED." KILL YOURSELF IF YOU THINK THAT YOU FKN JAPANESE MAGGOT. GET ERASED. IF ANYTHING I WILL BECOME THE NEW REICH AND FKN ERASE RETARDS LIKE YOU FROM THIS EARTH.
eat shit
Erm, dude for one- Japan was awful and still has not properly apologized for what they did to the Chinese in WW2 (they dropped freaking fleas with bubonic plague for christ sake on China)
Also the only child which is having a tantrum at another child pushing them. Is America. China has done nothing different to how America behaves (along with America, deliberately encircling them). American bullying is all the Chinese doing. Yet when China do it, they more awful then everyone else. The whole identification zone that was created by them, is an American idea that they created for all the asian nations or at least Japans to encircle China.
So sorry but I could care less about China pushing back. They been getting pushed and encircled for ages. What I care more about, is that America will just throw another region into chaos.
We shouldn't give a crap about China. We should continue our policy of Western dominance. China already has a shitload of natural resources, and the only real reasons they want these islands is to troll Japan; and distract the Chinese citizens (who have been demanding more and more government reforms) by appealing to their sense of anti-Japanese fervor.
If not for the US's intervention, China and/or the Soviet Union would have conquered Japan after WWII, and the anime industry would not even exist.
Sometimes you need to just drop political correctness, because our natural enemies will not show such mercy towards us.
If not for US intervention, Japan would have conquered China and crushed Russia.