Loli Manga “Should Be Banned As Hate Speech”

You're not making a case for yourself here either, you know.

DID EVERYONE FORGET ABOUT THE PAPER DOLL LOLI?

Don't bother. He's one of these reverse-racism nutbags.

The whole concept is flawed from the root, because racial discrimination laws are based on racial discrimination, and the end-result would only be more racial-discrimination.

For example, some countries impose a quota of immigrants. That just means you won't get the job because you're not an immigrant. Call it reverse racism if you're stupid, but it's just plain old racism, except the target is a different one.

The target doesn't matter, but to some people sending racist to gas chambers sounds like a good idea.
Those people are as stupid as those so called feminists.

Furthermore, anti-racism laws are made to punish and restricts, instead of having productive goals.

What good is there in restricting people? Should we send anyone who offend us to jail?

Doesn't the responsability ultimately lies within the party that takes the offence? Why would I face charge because I said something that you don't like or drew something you don't want to look at?

If I'm not forcing the drawings in your field of vision, and shouting stuff at your ear with a megaphone, it shouldn't be a crime. If racism is a flawed idea, it'll die on its own.
Such a law isn't even coherent with the rest.

You know who restricts speech they don't want to hear? totalitarian governments... and apparently neo-radical self-proclaimed feminists.

If they had brought social "studies" their ridiculous demands wouldn't sound like a tantrum, but sadly for them, the only studies I know of show that loli manga makes child molestation rate go lower. I don't remember the intricate details but it was mentioned to some political person in nederlands I think.

Needless to say, gun don't have a will of their own and go on killing people, and preventing kids to buy kitchen knives never saved anyone's life, ever.

You're free to enjoy stalin's USSR, but history shown us that totalitarianism isn't the way to go.

i think he meant, that if you implement such laws it is like admitting there is a difference between them.
this can be true, but that is only a matter of how you set this law up. like you may not say this or that to those people. or you may not say this and that to anyone. slight difference but the first one would indeed be admitting there is a difference while the second would not.

Racial discrimination laws are not dumb, but a double-edged sword in some cases. The thing is, words are freedom of speech, and even the worst, most horrendous hate speech is still simply an opinion, and people having a right to gather of like mind is something that everyone can do. Hate speech escalating into actions of hate is where there is a solid, unblurred line against racial discrimination, the argument is that the hate speech incites the mob mentality, and also racists speak constant lies and exaggerations. All the most powerful racists bring God into the mix, immediately making their argument ridiculous and stupid to anyone who is not ridiculous and stupid.

The key is that humans by and large are lazy. Look at what we in America are allowing without pushing back, companies getting slaps on the wrists, if anything, for their complete decimation of our economy through shady practices, or outright calling it legal, and nobody goes to prison. If we were not lazy, we would be doing much, much more, to the point that politicians would act, because that's what they do, get pushed by us because they won't get elected on big enough issues.

The idea is that they are worried that if hate speech is allowed, then escalation to hate actions is just another step. But any idiot knows you cannot force change and expect it to work, an evolution has to happen with gentle pushes. If they tried to make "Nigger" illegal for anyone, for example, it's a snowball effect of special interest groups demanding only certain people can say it because of their racial credentials, and then word after word being banned, and then everyone will start feeling cornered and racism would resurge to new levels. The worst thing you can do in racism is give favoritism.

Racial discrimination laws are there to prevent or reduce the leverage a person can get from charging someone of something based on ethnicity, it also gives those being discriminated some power. So for instance they're being prevented from landing a job based on race, they can bring that up with the law, or they're being turned into a scapegoat with their race as basis, law states they can't do that, their accusation doesn't hold up assuming they have no additional evidence.

Sounds like a problem with poor lawmaking meeting bad cultural preconceptions. If anything, this is an argument against inefficient governments. Also,

for instance they're being prevented from landing a job based on race

sounds exactly like discrimination to me. Surely you must mean a scenario where they were denied a job not because of their race, but brought up the "race card" anyway?

i think he meant, that if you implement such laws it is like admitting there is a difference between them.

Nope. It's admiring that there are people who think that is the case and would go to stupid lengths over their ignorant belief.

Don't bother. He's one of these reverse-racism nutbags.

Educating the unenlightened is a worthwhile pursuit. Even "nutbags" can be salvaged. Sometimes.

I think the whole gist of that exceedingly long passage was that basically, laws, like Affimative Action here in America, that are supposed to help a minority have a better life end up ruining the chances of other groups by making it more difficult to work or do what they want. What I have noticed living in an area of 80-90% minorities is that often the opportunity is not given to the better qualified but who has the correct skin tone / sexual preference. You have to accept a certain percentage of each race even if they are not qualified to do the simplest tasks you need done or the gov't will jump on your company for not being "culturally diverse".

and what do the real 'mens rights activists' do besides shitting on peoples parades and saying 'weeh we're not all like that'?

Who cares? They're just as stupid. But they're not the ones we're talking about, nor are they anywhere near as onerous or numerous. They're completely irrelevant to this discussion.