China has admitted scrambling fighters to intercept American and Japanese planes flying over the Senkaku islands, and has been sailing its sole carrier into disputed waters as well.
China says it scrambled fighters into the airspace around the disputed Senkaku islands to intercept and identify US and Japanese planes, noting it found there to be 10 planes present, including US surveillance and early warning planes, and Japanese fighters.
China apparently took no further action against this brazen violation of its sacred Diaoyu territory.
China’s English language state media has demanded “timely countermeasures without hesitation against Japan” should they “impudently” continue violating Chinese airspace, along with retaliatory violations of its air defence zone (although with Chinese ships, submarines and planes already freely violating Japanese territory for some time this is apparently already the case).
They are however plainly a little spooked by the prospect of having to deal with the USA, cravenly offering the USA an out: “If the US does not go too far, we will not target it in safeguarding our air defence zone.”
Meanwhile Australia can be “ignored” and South Korea can hopefully be co-opted at some point as they “understand” they have their own disagreements with Japan.
South Korea also joined the USA and Japan in protesting against China’s establishment of the zone, only to be ignored, whilst similar complaints from Australia resulted in China warning them that their “irresponsible” remarks could result in damage to Sino-Australian relations.
America’s B52 “training mission” over the islands was followed by both unannounced Japanese and South Korean military flights through the zone, although as Japan always maintained a military presence around the islands so it is not clear there is anything new about this except in its obvious timing.
Although still maintaining nobody sane could possibly object to it setting up an air defence zone over what is manifestly Chinese territory, China has stepped back from demanding all international civilian flights passing through the area identify themselves to the Chinese military, saying “the East China Sea air defence identification zone is not aimed at normal international flights.”
China is also reportedly sending its hand-me-down carrier the Liaoning (derisively called a “museum” by one US naval official) into its notoriously tenuous maritime claims in the South China Sea, prompting complaints from the Philippines as it passed through their waters.
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So China is on the defense huh? At least the US is putting pressure on them.
I certainly wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a mad B-52 bomber.
Well, you don't have to worry about that, as airplanes, by virtue of being non-sentient*, cannot become insane.
* All rumours that every B-52 has a secret AI control chip through which
wenon-existent nefarious rogue AIs can control them are false.FAILSAFE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
30 tons of high explosive per B-52 plus other
"goodies". That's a lot of BTOOM!!!
The top pic is hilarious and probably accurate.
I am not so sure the illustration of the sunken aircraft/heli carrier. It looks like 'Kiev' class carrier to me. From the wikipedia, Kiev and Minsk were sold to China and have been converted to Museum.
The only carrier that China have from Russia is the "Kuznetsov" class carrier, which was diverted from the original 'casino' plan to be a real carrier
by the way, the name of the "Kuznetsov" class carrier was Varyag. Now, the completed carrier is renamed as Laoning.
To be honest, it is quite impossible for Hyuga to sink Laoning from paper simulation. Laoning can carry 30 J-15 (derivative from SU-27).
Hyuga, on the other hands is very defensive, with a lot of SAM systems and only Sea Sparrow (SSM) with medium range. It also can only carry helicopters. Even AH-64 and AH-1 will not be a match against modern fixed wing fighters in one-to-one combat.
tldr; Hyuga is a defensive ship, not a ship killer.
They want plutonium to die for.
China's love for these stupid rock islands is retarded. There in the middle of the sea, nobody lives on them. Why are they so up in arms. Looking to dump all their toxic waste there or something?
If America can do one thing right, is to bully and get in everybody else's business. In this case I am for our overly busybody mentality, to give China some grief.
Having that stupid rock islands mean they are one step closer to the gas deposits which is within the stupid rock islands maritime zone.
That's it and it's practically one of their main reasons they want that rock islands.
It Is All About NATURAL RESOURCES!
For the 1,834th time, they don't care about that piece of rock. They care about things they can dig in the sea around it.
Please do some research first. China might be dumb for thinking they can mark any piece of island as they please, but they're not so dumb to mark them just because.
Go read Falklands/Malvinas history. Every time Argentina People are unhappy with the government the politicians touch the Falklands history as a way to channel popular nationalism to their side. And unlike Sankaku Argentina actually had occupied Falklands in he past so they have more real facts to back them up than China.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..........
SHEEP........
BAAAAAAAAAAA....
I think you are the one who is short-sighted.
When you can claim senkaku island, you can claim a big chunck of Economy Exclusive zone in that area. That area is believed to be rich in gas and oil. Not to mention that this is a strategic area, anyone from south east asia and USA needs to cross this one to reach china and korea. No wonder China and Japan are both contesting.
if you listen to the chinese all territory is chinese territory, that they just haven't claimed yet, yes they are that retarded.
I declare the government of China is retarded and a pussy!
It depends on if you admit the China is still legitimately belonged to the Nationalist or you are saying the commies.
So China managed to simultaneously piss off Japan, the US, South Korea, The Philippines, and Australia?!!
business as usual.
Magnificent really. The only country they can bully the fuck out of here is Philippines.
Nope.
The Philippines are practically the US's little brother. There won't be any bullying there either.
Only when it's convenient for the flips. Filipinos have no trouble btching about our military bases. But sadly they run right back for our protection when china gets too cheeky for their own good.
But I suppose for a while we should offer some freebies to make up for the ownership back in early 20th century. America should do what is right, even when the wife is btching and moaning that he's not doing anything right.
Never mind the fact that we liberated them from japs 70 years ago with american blood.
Or, you know, the recent hurricane help coming from a fully loaded super carrier. Come to think of it, the leased military base would have been pretty handy in getting help there faster during this hurricane season.
I would actually consider Philippines to be a step above japs in cooperation though.
Anon 06:47
"Only when it's convenient for the flips. Filipinos have no trouble btching about our military bases. But sadly they run right back for our protection when china gets too cheeky for their own good."
That describes every single "ally" the US has. They all bitch about us like the ungrateful little bastards they are, but the moment the shit hits the fan, they're our bosom buddies.
08:57
Part of that is our lapse in judgement for not acting like brutal, cruel overlords as they expect us to do. These people respond better to threats of violence and execution of brutality better than reason or peace.
Just like in Iraq, when US army came into bagdahd. When US military personnel tried to be soft handed and give out medical treatment and food, they were just looking for opportunities to steal and cheat us.
But once the marines came and started beating up looters and offenders, they dispersed quickly away from US military compounds and started following some basic law about not fucking with other people (at least when the patrols are out for them).
We need to make clear that US has no patience for infantile behaviors and clearly hostile opportunism of the host countries that try to take advantage of all the humanitarian restraints placed upon US personnel.
You fuck with Uncle Sam, He's gonna fuck you AND your family.
Pretty much, I love it when I read stuff bitching about us, then when something goes down we are the first people they look towards for help.
We didn't 'liberate' the Philippines from Japan out of the goodness of our hearts. We owned the Philippines since we took it from the Spanish. Philippines was part of our Empire when the Japanese came. Not only that, it was also a military strategic decision.
Well, that is because, you know, there are millions of people in that country and you act as if the person who bitches and appreciate your action is the same person.
not all the filipinos think that way. i for one would love to be truly allied with the states. unfortunately, there are many people here who don't think logically, just for the sake of "pinoy pride". misplaced pride imho.
US "little brother" huh?
I didn't know that big brother's actually let someone else take small brother island so brazenly, huh.
I guess America really fails as a big brother, then.
I wonder if this could end up significantly helping Jp-SK relations.
i certainly hope so. with america on the decline, japan needs new allies for the future so they dont get rolled by china in the coming years
Fat chance, pretty much everyone in east asia wants Japan rolled, especially SK. Even countries that have disputes with China, like Vietnam and Pillippines, frankly, hates Japan even more.
Unlike Germany, which denounced their WWII leadership thoroughly, Japan keeps reminding the entire east asia who invaded them half a century ago by worshiping their war criminals every year. Smart...
Right, right.
Just like how America was 'declining' after ww2, or vietnam, or during the great depression.
Kids these days have such short memories.
Biatch please/
Last time I checked Japan was pretty popular in Vietnam and Philippines... So I guess it is not that alone, I mean does China have a single neighbor that doesn't have a border problem with it?
Koreans are retarded with pride. They can't drive for shit and their manners and tempers are equivalent to that of a petulant 5 year old child and they do stupid shit like spit like it's nobodies business and not give a shit who is there to 'catch' it and if you say something will act as if YOU are the cause of the offense.
Assholes can't hide behind the glamorous images of k-pop for long. They'll be found out soon. Xenophobic, myopic dipshits...
"like Vietnam and Pillippines" Have to call BS on this one. Most nations in the S. Pac. area have neutral to cordial relations with Japan. China and Korea are really the only ones with their panties crammed up their asscrack.
Plus, did you know that Abe symbolically did NOT visit Yasukuni this year (the first since Koizumi started the PM visiting tradition several years back)? Did that affect the hysterical rhetoric coming in from S. Korea at all? The answer to both questions would be "No", apparently.
WOW, HOW CHINESE OF THEM.........
YUCK... YUCK...
amen brother. swamp boji's
Probably not. From what I've experienced of South Korean people's sentiments, SK would even side with China if it meant dealing a blow to Japan.
Exactly. Historical issues aside, if you look at the map, Japan's air defense zone snuggles up right against South Korea's territorial waters from across the sea, while China's new zone is still far away with only slight overlap. Japan's air defense zone used to be huge, and it had been irritating SK for decades.
The South Korean people may *say* they'd even pick China over Japan in event of a conflict, but in reality, if they did pick China, they would soon become a Chinese client state, and I'm sure they're well aware of that.
Lol, speaking of Chinese client state... If you know anything of Korean history, you'll know they had always been Chinese client state until a century ago, to seek protection from Japanese invasion, ironically.
And when the Chinese regime fell apart at the turn of the 20th century, Korea got conquered by Japan.
SK is Asia's equivalent to Ozark Mountain
Hillbillies. Walking around with with a chip
on their shoulder. They'd cut off their own nose to spite their face as mom's fond of saying.
Koreans are like black people and jews. Always reminding themselves that they were invaded and enslaved, they like to bitch like that. We in the Philippines buried the ratchet and moved on. These chinese fuckers already depleted their resource and can no longer sustain their bacterial population so they seek new lands this way. I say, it's time to burn some of their population in napalm!!!
just nuke 'em already, before they become radiation resistant.
All the radiation from those nukes would pass to Japan. This is bad, because then Gojira would be created and then we'd have to deal with Gojira coming across the sea to trample California.
I'm not really seeing a downside here.
@Conduit
Agreed. Somebody needs to clean up that 'multicultural utopia' shithole they call a state.
We're gonna need Jaegers...
really can't find fault in that characterization of California. I live here. Family has for 110 years. It's become a hippy liberal douchebag wasteland.
Uhhhh, you're missing the point here. If gojira tramples California, then the Californians have to migrate to other states where they can spread their Californian ways >.>
i suppose china is the world's troll
Yeah but when that bomb goes off it'll blow all of that smog all around the world.
Oh that ship has sailed brotha.
Aren't they already radiation resistant. I mean they are cockroaches.
Wait till they piss of Saudi Arabia or other middle east super powers. It would be glorious.
No, silly, Saudis only bomb twin towers in the good US of A.
Saudis fight only with white race.
Nah, mostly the non-Islamic people. Since most asians are non-islamic, i'm sure they're in their cross-hairs too.
Sounds like the next Top Gun movie plot.
Oh look, the U.S chickens out after flying in their bombers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25165503
You're a simpleton.
The U.S. is urging CIVILIAN airlines to comply while their MILITARY aircraft fly with zero restrictions.
The same split goes for the Japanese.
The reasoning is that this avoids the possibility of defenseless CIVILIAN airlines from being shot down. They'd rather not risk civilian deaths. You don't play chicken with innocent people's lives.
Meanwhile the military aircraft fly there with impunity while the Chinese decide which obsolete piece of shit vessel to run out there next.