Xbox One Video Features “Cost $60”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Aug 9, 2013 11:52 JST
- Tags: Announcements, Comparison, Internet, Marketing, Microsoft, PS4, Technology, Xbox One
Microsoft is facing yet another PR disaster after revealing many of its touted Xbox One features require an Xbox Live Gold account, even as Sony glibly confirmed they were free on the PS4.
An annual Xbox Live subscription costing in the region of $60 will be required if Xbox One users want to make and share gameplay videos (improbably billed as a “social” killer app for both consoles), as well as if they want to make Skype calls, use Netflix, browse the web, or using its (death)matchmaking services.
Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida was as ever quick to capitalise on the news, confirming that no premium account is required to use gameplay recording features on the PS4.
Even so, PS4 owners will have little to crow about – a $50 PlayStation Plus account will be required to play PS4 games online.
Whether real users will actually want to use these video sharing services, or whether more niggardly games companies will still occasionally attempt to prosecute them for copyright infringement on the basis of videos of their play, remain unaddressed issues.
However, as always with US products and services sharing with the NSA is completely free – and thanks to the power of Kinect now includes the mandatory addition of a continuously recording video camera and microphone…
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Having to pay even more for Netflix and Skype? Microsoft isn't thinking this one through are they?
It seems they want to fail.
Really if Sega ever wanted the perfect opportunity to get back into the console market now is the time.
Making something equal to the Xbox one would be something in the realm of a few garage tinkers.
Making something that raises the bar past even the PS4 is something that only requires a small team of engineers less then 100 and a call to IBM, TSMC or GlobalFoundries and one of the video card manufactures.
It's not late for Neptune and Nepgear to conquer us all!
All hail Nep Nep!
Conquering? I think that is Iris Heart's task.
then suddenly large shares was dumped to planeptune
and the release of the Sega Neptune and Pluto add on console together with nepgear portable
You're an idiot if you think the ps4 would be easily outdone. #smh
the ps3 is largely an apu that costs about 300$ retail.
realistically, it's not hard to beat the ps4 in terms of hardware, no, the problem comes from you need to have the hardware in planning for at least 2 years with a rough, under estimate of what the end hardware will be so game makers can make a game for launch. you then need to have consumer friendly anti piracy, like the 360 had, that doesn't hinder the experience of the console.
you than mandate that user sponsored servers for online is a must, and p2p hosting is used only if no servers are available, which you facilitate on a server to a very small cost to you that you eat with every game sold.
all in all, for me to build a computer that would be better than the ps4 graphically, it would cost all of 500$ (ram, hdd, psu all included, with psu costing the most because you never want that to fail)
with bulk and corporate discounts, you could probably sell these at 450-500$ and be profitable, but that still doesn't mean you could succeed, you require the games, which they many not be able to bring for another 2 years, which would be well into this console's life cycle when people break down and already bought one. it would be almost impossible to do this gen... possibly next gen though.
Why don't you start a kickstarter them?
Really overvaluing the Sega name aren't ya?
More like just desperately wishing someone would swoop in and save us from the increasingly consumer unfriendly practices of Microsoft and Sony.
Do your research. Gold has ALWAYS cost $60 a year, even less when you find cards on sale. I appreciate your fanboyism but at least appear intelligent and research the matter a bit, first.
Sony too has a history of shafting customer. Removing OtherOS and charging for PS2 classics wrapped in a .pkg when slims have a fairly good PS2 emulator that, without CFW, cannot be accessed. I know bashing the XB1 is the cool thing today, but get your shit in order before opening your mouth.
Before telling others to do some research you might do a little more yourself since Gold has not always cost $60. It actually used to be only $50 until M$ added ESPN, Youtube, and other apps and said that the $10 increase was necessary in order to fund those apps. Although I think anyone is crazy to pay the full price since, as you mentioned, it's easy to find a Gold subscription on sale for at least $10 off. I don't think I have ever paid full price for a yearly subscription.
Microsoft has a tradition of shooting itself in the foot. When the competition outsells them, they'll either waive the fees or aim approximately five and a half feet higher.
gold account is already required for social services like facebook & twitter, this won't make a difference
Who cares about facebook and twitter on a console?
Not having those would be considered a feature in my book.
gold account is already required for social services like facebook & twitter, this won't make a difference
which is still stupid. Why do we have to pay to use a social network service, that is free on the PC and Sony's console?
Get the popcorn, and watch out for flying chairs!
Are you people fucking retarded? Its exactly the same as the current Gold price.
Believing everything they read on sites like this makes them that way, sadly.
Another possible plan would be to make these kind of declarations, see people rage, and then revoke the idea.
In doing so they will let people think "Oh hey, Microsoft is reasonable if you react to them", and opening some sort of 'open source', mass-fed ideology in Microsoft's name which tends to be good PR.
I know some companies have done this kind of stuff before and have become rather popular now. Hope this isn't the way MS is gonna try to work with, cause we know in the end there's a catch. And it'll leave you without your wallet.
Probably won't work.
Microsoft fucked up so hard, people will be more like "Those are the people who tried to screw us over".
Especially when they are constantly compared to Sony, who did a much better PR job than MS.
People go for the PS4 just because Sony didn't act like a bunch of deluded douchebags.
News like these are just icing and sprinkles on top of the Sony cake.
MS PR only fell on def Sony fanboy ears! I actually liked alot of their initail ideas for drm so I could bring any game anywhere. But the reality is that this site thati understand is pro japan is also pro biased to the usa or any other culture or country. Hence the use of niggardly in this sentence. "Whether real users will actually want to use these video sharing services, or whether more niggardly games companies will still occasionally attempt to prosecute them for copyright infringement on the basis of videos of their play, remain unaddressed issues." So what are you saying (the article's author) that the game companies are ignorant or that they're acting like niggers (more commonly stereotyped as african american males)
Fuck this site for the use of this word and the biased thought that $60 xbl fee doesn't have value, especially for those already with xbl!
Learn to use a dictionary. 'Niggardly' is an old word that means 'cheap' or 'miserly'. Perhaps it is not this site that is racist, but the would-be champion of the poor, downtrodden African-Americans who can't help but see racial slurs in every word that bears even the slightest passing resemblance.
I don't think the people over at Microsoft are intelligent enough to pull off such a plan. The ONLY reason MS went back on their DRM policies was because the PS4 was out selling the xbone something like 10 to 1 in preorders.
No amount of public outrage will deter MS, the only thing that will get them to reconsider is if people begin canceling their preorders en masse.
"However, as always with US products and services sharing with the NSA is completely free – and thanks to the power of Kinect now includes the mandatory addition of a continuously recording video camera and microphone"
ZING!
Actually, the required internet service was thrown out awhile ago. So you can play offline.
but day one patch for all games are still required for SP...so internet service is still mandatory.
It still requires a broadband internet connection LOL
It still requires electricity too LOL
"It still requires electricity too LOL"
except, electricity is much, much, much, more reliable and abundant than internet service. Unless you live in a jungle or desert, electricity pretty much available almost everywhere, any place that there are people living.
Also, electricity almost never go out, blackout occur very rarely in any modern city, and quite rare even in rural area, but internet.. yea, even the best internet service is down from time to time..
I think that person is just pointing out how absurd and empty the statement "it still requires a broadband internet connection," really is, as though it were one more unreasonable fee heaped on top of everything else. You people are online RIGHT now, and *gasp*, probably with a broadband connection!
Woah, woah. Careful with those edges or you may cut yourself.
Right and wrong, all the free to play games coming to ps4 such as planetside 2 and warframe etc. will not require the ps plus subscription
At this point im just surprised that the xbox one doesn't require a blood sacrifice.
Soul sacri- err wait that's on the psvita T_T
Sacrifice your first born now and receive a discount on day one dlc. Was $70 now $69.99 after discount.
So, for an XBox One Gold Home account I get the usual multiplayer online features plus the extras tidbits added, Skype, video sharing, monthly free games, movie site passes n'that, including what they've conveniently left out in this 'article' - family sharing (10 linked members can use the same game) as well as disc based standard sharing....
Aaand for Playstation Plus membership what do I get? The ability to play people in online multiplayer?
Fucked-up perspective much?
You clowns should stick to just writing anime blogs; anything to do with tech or Aya Hirano and it's one-sided moronic click bait. Utter drivel.
Don't forget our special offers for those who sacrifice young virgin girls.
their best special offers for sacrifing is alienation.
who doesnt want some delicious alienation on his way to happiness....
if they would just explain what they mean with "wash the SAND" .... because i clearly have absolutlely no connection to sand....
but i guess they will just ignore it like the bunch of assholes they are.
Microsoft probably don't give a shit about gaming consoles, same as Sony they are just side projects.
Both have their real profits in the other markets.
and the japanese dont give a damn about you.
news at eleven.....
You haven't heard? The Xbox one requires cut yourself and bleed directly onto the CPU in order to the console on in the first place.
And I'm not even going to mention the horrid acts of depravity you have to commit to save your games.
It's coming to the point that this is situation now.
Sony and Microsoft are working together in the gaming industry clear as fucking day now and they want to push Nintendo out cause they aren't working with them.
Microsoft don't want Sony to leave cause with every console they sell they will earn a bit of money back cause of patents and copyright infringements also they are probably using some sort of Microsoft inspired OS systems and they want to be the dominant force of the West/US which they will be.
Sony doesn't want to push out Microsoft either cause their premiums will go up due to other products that use the Windows system, also they don't mind if they handball certain patents for Microsoft to try out and they want to be the dominant force of the East which they will be.
Now PS4 and Xbox One the systems are the fucking same the CPUs the Graphics the RAM (one use DDR3 and one use GDDR5 which both has positives and negatives) probably the only thing fucking different is the labels they are using but all in all the systems are the same just one a bit more unbalanced and overclocked (PS4) than the other (Xbox ONE). Even the producers and even Digital Foundry proved it by testing but still Sony fanboys believe that slightly bigger numbers equal a more powerful system which isn't the case.
Why? Well would upgrading a Radeon 7850 to a 7870 XT would make much of a different not really as one is just an overclocked graphics card with a slightly better output.
I just don't like this new generation before they were separate and interesting now they are both the same shit. I don't know but I really don't like this generation.
Think and believe what you will guys but these are my thoughts and I believe the most unusual situations like this has occurred.
Its pretty tricky, as I notice in PS3 and Xbox 360 era, most of the multiplatform game on these two console is identical.
As general understanding, most of multiplatform game usually made on the weaker console first, in case of PS3/Xbox 360, developer will make games on Xbox 360 first, and then port it to the stronger one, the PS3.
It mean, most of the time the more powerful console isn't used to its full potential, and still costly to be manufactured. More powerful hardware means more cost to make.
If PS4 is significantly more powerful than Xbox One, or Xbox One is more powerful than PS4, it wont matter. The multiplatform developer wont be using the extra power, and the game will still look the same.
Its better to have identical hardware, from business perspective.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. And you just did it for eight paragraphs. Shame on you!
@18:05
Yea I know the PS4 is much more substantially powerful adding those extra numbers will make you feel better at night.
After all everyone has fucking proved your special system isn't as powerful as it claim to be (the PS4) and now all you have to go on now is just the price good luck and godspeed.
Forgot to add the cases and the looks are the same as well.
XBOX ONE looks sexi. i could tap that.
"XBOX ONE looks vcri. i could tape that"
I'd tap a good VCR anyday, my dear Benoist.
The specs on the PS3 are better than the 360 facts are facts, but Microsoft pays to have everything delayed on PS3 they sometimes even pay to have graphics lowered for PS3 games, so even if the PS4 was a piece of crap I'd never be giving a corrupt company like MS any of my money.
Sadly, this is completely true.
Microsoft pays for everything instead of actually doing something worthwhile.
The Power of Money.
That's pretty low, to pay developer to make their games on rival's console in lesser quality.
I also notice that Microsoft also using another dirty method, by paying developer to delay the games/DLC on the Sony's console.
Like Skyrim's DLC, Dragonborn, the Xbox 360 and PC version get it first, and PS3 owner get it 6 month after that. The Bureau: XCOM Declassified DLC also was bought by Microsoft..
price = quality, eat that you sony fanboy
No, no it doesn't. It never has. Price has always been the maximum amount they can milk from you before people quit buying.
And MS is pushing it at this point...
They haven't changed anything so why are people bitching you were going to pay 60 a year anyway damnn
You don't get it.
They are charging for shit that is completely free on EVERY other platform in order to force into a subscription.
If they put up and invest in servers, it's certainly okay to charge a bit, but this is not the case here.
They use apps like facebook, netflix and crunchyroll, which cost them nothing, and put them behind aa paywall to evoke the illusion of "value".
That shit should be free and, as I said, IS free on PC, iOS, Android and PS4.
Microsofts problem is the fact that they are completely out of touch with reality.
If Sony does the same for free, then Sony is the better company for consumers to support.
It's that simple.
don't lurk here you M$ fanboy,,, japanese lovers should supports japanese products
If you were a 'German lover", I suppose you would eat sauerkraut for breakfast.
Howard Stringer was no yellow cocksucker.
confirmed for yellow cock sucking weaboo
Actually no. We "japanese lovers" are perfectly able to discern and purchase what is obviously the superior product.
Ii believe Sony fanboys used that same justification when they dropped 600 for a PS3 and it didn't hold up then either.
@19:27
Nice fanboy justification kid. Too bad bluray sold like shit til the movies finally dropped in a price comparable to DVDs.
Til then the format was a failure which only gained success with idiots with too much money for their own good and gamers taking advantage of the extra feature their console came with.
Also those that bought a PS3 as a bluray player never bought any games. Because of this the PS3 had a horrible attach rate til standalone players came out, which means Sony was hemorrhaging money because they were losing money on hardware sales and not recuperating them in software royalties & accessories.
But I'm sure none of this makes any sense to some dumb kid who has to try justifying a $600 purchase for a game console. Lastly that $500 version had more removed than a mere 40GB of space.
You know right the PS3 have blue ray? A technology that fuckin expensive in 2006, the year of PS3 launch?
Sony was selling at lose the PS3 because of its $600 price, and there are some people that buy PS3 just because it is the cheap blue ray player. Other blue ray player was $1000, and Sony sold it at $600. Go figure. And it even better as it can play games.
BTW, the $599 PS3 was for 60GB version, and you can get a cheaper, $499 for 20GB version. 500 dollar is not that bad with what you get in return.
The specs on the PS3 are better than the 360 facts are facts, but Microsoft pays to have everything delayed on PS3 they sometimes even pay to have graphics lowered for PS3 games, so even if the PS4 was a piece of crap I'd never be giving a corrupt company like MS any of my money.
A shame the facts on the real world bottlenecks on the PS3 hampered it and basically made texture processing worse than the 360.
Specs aren't all that important. The DC had pretty much every technical edge over the competition and still failed spectacularly.
Actually only the CPU was 'better', but it was only fully utilized by a handful of titles because they designed a nontraditional processor. The GPUs are mostly identical in performance, in fact the 360's GPU has some advantages to it. Lastly the 360 has 512MB of shared memory, while the PS3 has a total of 512MB with half dedicated to video and the other half dedicated to the rest. Basically 360 was more flexible in this area, which is why Forza has better textures. But on the flip-side the power of Sony's processor gave GT5 better lighting features.
sigh. Why Microsoft is that corrupted.
Instead of playing fair, making better game or obtain more developer to make more games for their console, they decide to use their money to lowering their competitor's game quality, and even use that dirty money to delay the Sony's game.
I am for sure not going to support a company as corrupted as Microsoft.
If that's the case, PC master race. Enjoy your subscriptions, I play for free and get more powerful games as well as indie games.
>02:04
>emulators
>just fine
Sure, pal. I finished them at the time when emulator had buggy backgrounds and some flickers on a world map. Not sure flickers where fixed by now. Emulation is cool, but you have to wait quite some time. Which isn't quite “master race.”
It always cracks me up when people complain about beta software being buggy.
Except dual booting. And WINE. And native games. And platform agnostic games.
>It always cracks me up when people complain about beta software being buggy.
So? We weren't talking about this particular software but about games, you know.
>Except dual booting
Except that Windows does not have those games either. And it also likes to wipe Linux boot loader on install/upgrade.
>And WINE
Oh, believe me, I used that for a while. It's POS I will not ever touch (hello MIME associations pollution, regressions left and right and problems with even playing something like Melty Blood), it's also 32 bit only.
>And native games
Show me one that looks and plays like Disgaea, Guilty Gear or Ar tonelico. You can't.
>And platform agnostic games.
See previous answer.
PC runs Ar Tonelico 1 and 2 just fine.
PC IS master race, too bad it doesn't have much Disgaea, GG/BB, Ar tonelico, etc. style games at all.
Well, yeah, they have a few older versions of some games, sure, but that's it. There might be also Agarest on PC soon… which was horrible anyway.
Plus, my PC is x86_64 Linux, so… no choice for me other that consoles :}