Xbox One Video Features “Cost $60”

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Microsoft is facing yet another PR disaster after revealing many of its touted Xbox One features require an Xbox Live Gold account, even as Sony glibly confirmed they were free on the PS4.

An annual Xbox Live subscription costing in the region of $60 will be required if Xbox One users want to make and share gameplay videos (improbably billed as a “social” killer app for both consoles), as well as if they want to make Skype calls, use Netflix, browse the web, or using its (death)matchmaking services.

Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida was as ever quick to capitalise on the news, confirming that no premium account is required to use gameplay recording features on the PS4.

Even so, PS4 owners will have little to crow about – a $50 PlayStation Plus account will be required to play PS4 games online.

Whether real users will actually want to use these video sharing services, or whether more niggardly games companies will still occasionally attempt to prosecute them for copyright infringement on the basis of videos of their play, remain unaddressed issues.

However, as always with US products and services sharing with the NSA is completely free – and thanks to the power of Kinect now includes the mandatory addition of a continuously recording video camera and microphone…

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  • Sony could have basically killed the Xbox by announcing free multiplayer for the PS4, but no, they had to push PS+ as hard as possible and shoved the online multiplayer behind a paywall.

  • Seems like a growing trend is happening here. Both markets vying for a share of consumer needs and demands. Only thing is cost.. but several games this gen have had the option of free user usage of saving and sharing gameplay vids. Why the sudden change?

  • Here’s a question: Who actually cares about this?
    Skype, Netflix, etc can all be used just as easy or easier from a computer so why bother going through XB1, online play was always only for gold so no change there, and the only people who would actually take the time and effort to make and post gameplay vids are serious enough about gaming that they’re most likely already subscribers, or would willingly become one.
    If you don’t have gold now, that means you don’t play XBox games online, which probably means you don’t have enough of an online presence to even bother making and posting gameplay videos, as no one would ever watch them, other than to troll of course.
    So again, who cares?

  • My biggest hope lies, as ever, on the great poeple who crack those protections and let us play games for free. While I do buy some really good games, I would rather pay THEM then greedy publishers and marketing geniuses that think they can milk us how they want

  • For every three people decrying this latest retarded, anti-consumer move from Microsoft, two of them are going to own an Xbox One within a year of release. That is why M$ does this sort of thing, because their consumers are completely devoid of willpower and will pony up to the fecal buffet the moment the “must have” whatever comes out for the system. It is the same reason ActiBlizzard can take a massive Slimy Stanley on their subscribers year after year and their consumers thank them for the opportunity to be made toilets.

    • Well, we cannot know for sure, but the Xbox One pre-order was totally destroyed by PS4 pre-order. So, I’d say the outcry did work on some level. Significant enough for Microsoft to reconsider their policy.

      But I agree, we have to be more strict and strong will power against any company that treating their consumer like shit.

      Look like Microsoft still have some bad fat to be trimmed out. Namely Kinetic, and Xbox Live Gold paywall. Solve this issue, make Kinetic optional and make the supposed to be free service (Hulu, Neflix, Twitter, facebook, recording, streaming,), to be free on Xbox Live and we are good to go.

  • Connect it through your old VCR recorder you used to record TV shows years ago and have gameplay videos. For free. Like in ‘ol times.
    Skype? Netflix? What’s that?
    Internet? With that idiotic controller, y’ kiddin’ me?

  • In other words, if you have in the past 7 years ever had your xbox live account revert to Free (silver) status, none of this info comes as a surprise.

    Silver (free) on the 360 can’t:
    Access Netflix (which is pointless imo on the console since for xbox it requires 2 subscriptions. one to Live, one to netflix)
    Use most Apps
    Use Xbox Live Parties
    browse the web
    go into matchmaking

    all you can do is update your games and purchase DLC.

    See it already has happened!

  • Are you on drugs? It costs 500 yen a month to remain a PS Plus user, and 5000 a year, and you DON’T have to buy a year subscription of PS Plus to have those online play.
    This message will be destroyed in 3, 2…

  • “Even so, PS4 owners will have little to crow about – a $50 PlayStation Plus account will be required to play PS4 games online.”

    1) Still cheaper than XBL.
    2) I fucking hate online multiplayer anyways.
    3) Maybe, and this one is unlikely, that extra cost will make companies actually start putting effort into GAMES again instead of making multiplayer garbage and then slapping a half-assed attempt at single player onto it.

    • “..making multiplayer garbage and then slapping a half-assed attempt at single player onto it.”

      Yea, I hate when that happen. Battlefield was gorgeous, but the single player play like crap which make me regret the purchase.

      So you know, I prefer playing alone, dislike the idea of hearing some random kid screaming.

      • My strategy didn’t include making it nearly impossible for anyone that isn’t me to actually release anything on my system. To be fair though, up until very recently the Nintendo Strategy worked pretty damned well and kept them in the running through recessions, overall lulls in gaming, and the utter death of Sega.

  • Quite honestly, those services that require a subscription aren’t anything a casual gamer needs… and people had to pay for online gaming, streaming and social services on the 360, too. So what’s there to be surprised about?

    When I read an article about this yesterday, I thought “will playing offline require people to pay now?”, but it was only about “premium services and functions”… ones I’d never even use lol

    But that doesn’t mean I accept and support MS and Sony’s pay-for-everything policies. I bought a 360 back in 2009 and never once bought a Gold subscription! I don’t need any of those services and online gaming = meh IMO (though GTA4 was fun during free gold weekends, except for the cheaters and hackers).
    Well, I don’t have the money to pay for that shit, and I don’t care about it, so no problems for me… but I still dislike all of it -_- Die in a gutter modern gaming industry… and Squeenix lol

  • I’m surprised no one has overreacted over the author’s use of the word “niggardly.” Here in America that’s a major drama bomb, regardless of the fact that the word’s meaning is completely harmless.

  • TBH the PS Plus isn’t required to play all games online….f2p games can be played online without it and they already have planet side 2 confirmed.

    If they use the money from the PS Plus to improve the online aspect of PlayStation bringing it on par with xbox it’s all good.

      • Nah, you still bought the machine. You can continue to own your useless brick if you don’t want to pay the extra. I’ve no knowledge (yet) of them having some clause that allows them to take it away if they don’t like you, they’re not Apple.

        • You mean like when Sony took back OtherOS & after finally designing a software emulated emotion engine decided to resell you your old games instead of adding their emulator to their next firmware update?

          Large corporations do not get to be so large by caring about the consumer. To them you are all criminals and sheep, who will do as they say. And if one truly greener on the other, it is only because the soil was smothered in poop.

        • The software/OS is Microsoft’s, and Microsoft did not promise they will never do anything crap through it, like redoing their DRM in future..

          The machine is yours, but the software, which needed to update to play newer game, is still theirs.

    • Actually, that’s not the news. Re-read the article, I’ll wait.

      Good? Ok.

      The *news* is that the video recording and uploading feature that MS bragged about as being on par with Sony’s is going to require a gold account…something Sony does not ask of users to use its own recording/uploading feature.

      Ahhh….see? Now don’t you feel better?

  • With policies such as this, finding every opportunity to nickle and dime their customers for stuff they already pay for, force unwanted ads in their faces everywhere even when they pay for Live Gold, and constantly making 180s on their policies just proves how completely out of touch MS is with their consumers.

    If consumers were intelligent they would avoid the XBox 1 like the plague! But they wont because they’re too damn stupid to realize they’re being taken advantage of!

    • Agree. I pity those fool that desperately trying to defend Xbox One, I mean, how blind are them for not seeing that all the rule that Xbox One, which will only going to make it harder and more costly for them to enjoy their hobby.

      • How blind? People whose platform of choice is Xbox will be un-phased by this, especially since the sort of people who would care about this are likely to be the sort of people playing games online anyway. Expecting something for endless uploading and downloading of large video files makes sense.

        I think some of you are so desperately attached to not paying for games (and thus putting the game industry in the awkward place it’s in now) that you’ve developed some aversion towards this even though you are now free to endlessly hawk back and forth your dirty pile of used games.

      • Steam is nearly just as closed but they do a good job hiding it behind excellent sales so people don’t whine. Just because the PC itself isn’t closed doesn’t mean the various gaming services are totally open too.

        • Starcraft II does not, in fact require online connection to start the game. You only ever need to authenticate it once upon installation, and you never have to login online ever again to access the single player features.
          The launcher isn’t required either. You can run the game directly from support/sc2switcher.exe

          For most non-online games that do require such annoyances, a fix is readily available from your favourite torrent tracker.

        • Loads of games including starcraft II and draqons age origins ect require an online connection to even start hte game onw. Blizzard reqires also the secondary log on and secondary desktop feature be on to even play a solo game part like starcraft II has. Its about to the point tney are the ones putting the Desktop Computer industry out of business not the people who buy the games fault.

  • I don’t know what more could be done to ram it in to the thick skulls of those xbox supporters still left that microsoft/xbox have become completely money grubbing shit bags. There is absolutely NOTHING worth of value in using the xbox one. NOT A SINGLE FUCKING THING! Everything about it is negative from the continuous costs, the lower specs, to the fucking spy box sending your information to the government.

    • It’s coming to the point that this is situation now.

      Sony and Microsoft are working together in the gaming industry clear as fucking day now and they want to push Nintendo out cause they aren’t working with them.

      Microsoft don’t want Sony to leave cause with every console they sell they will earn a bit of money back cause of patents and copyright infringements also they are probably using some sort of Microsoft inspired OS systems and they want to be the dominant force of the West/US which they will be.

      Sony doesn’t want to push out Microsoft either cause their premiums will go up due to other products that use the Windows system, also they don’t mind if they handball certain patents for Microsoft to try out and they want to be the dominant force of the East which they will be.

      Now PS4 and Xbox One the systems are the fucking same the CPUs the Graphics the RAM (one use DDR3 and one use GDDR5 which both has positives and negatives) probably the only thing fucking different is the labels they are using but all in all the systems are the same just one a bit more unbalanced and overclocked (PS4) than the other (Xbox ONE). Even the producers and even Digital Foundry proved it by testing but still Sony fanboys believe that slightly bigger numbers equal a more powerful system which isn’t the case.

      Why? Well would upgrading a Radeon 7850 to a 7870 XT would make much of a different not really as one is just an overclocked graphics card with a slightly better output.

      I just don’t like this new generation before they were separate and interesting now they are both the same shit. I don’t know but I really don’t like this generation.

      Think and believe what you will guys but these are my thoughts and I believe the most unusual situations like this has occurred.

      • Its pretty tricky, as I notice in PS3 and Xbox 360 era, most of the multiplatform game on these two console is identical.

        As general understanding, most of multiplatform game usually made on the weaker console first, in case of PS3/Xbox 360, developer will make games on Xbox 360 first, and then port it to the stronger one, the PS3.

        It mean, most of the time the more powerful console isn’t used to its full potential, and still costly to be manufactured. More powerful hardware means more cost to make.

        If PS4 is significantly more powerful than Xbox One, or Xbox One is more powerful than PS4, it wont matter. The multiplatform developer wont be using the extra power, and the game will still look the same.

        Its better to have identical hardware, from business perspective.

        • @18:05

          Yea I know the PS4 is much more substantially powerful adding those extra numbers will make you feel better at night.

          After all everyone has fucking proved your special system isn’t as powerful as it claim to be (the PS4) and now all you have to go on now is just the price good luck and godspeed.

      • So, for an XBox One Gold Home account I get the usual multiplayer online features plus the extras tidbits added, Skype, video sharing, monthly free games, movie site passes n’that, including what they’ve conveniently left out in this ‘article’ – family sharing (10 linked members can use the same game) as well as disc based standard sharing….

        Aaand for Playstation Plus membership what do I get? The ability to play people in online multiplayer?

        Fucked-up perspective much?

        You clowns should stick to just writing anime blogs; anything to do with tech or Aya Hirano and it’s one-sided moronic click bait. Utter drivel.

        • @19:27
          Nice fanboy justification kid. Too bad bluray sold like shit til the movies finally dropped in a price comparable to DVDs.

          Til then the format was a failure which only gained success with idiots with too much money for their own good and gamers taking advantage of the extra feature their console came with.

          Also those that bought a PS3 as a bluray player never bought any games. Because of this the PS3 had a horrible attach rate til standalone players came out, which means Sony was hemorrhaging money because they were losing money on hardware sales and not recuperating them in software royalties & accessories.

          But I’m sure none of this makes any sense to some dumb kid who has to try justifying a $600 purchase for a game console. Lastly that $500 version had more removed than a mere 40GB of space.

        • You know right the PS3 have blue ray? A technology that fuckin expensive in 2006, the year of PS3 launch?

          Sony was selling at lose the PS3 because of its $600 price, and there are some people that buy PS3 just because it is the cheap blue ray player. Other blue ray player was $1000, and Sony sold it at $600. Go figure. And it even better as it can play games.

          BTW, the $599 PS3 was for 60GB version, and you can get a cheaper, $499 for 20GB version. 500 dollar is not that bad with what you get in return.

      • The specs on the PS3 are better than the 360 facts are facts, but Microsoft pays to have everything delayed on PS3 they sometimes even pay to have graphics lowered for PS3 games, so even if the PS4 was a piece of crap I’d never be giving a corrupt company like MS any of my money.

        • Actually only the CPU was ‘better’, but it was only fully utilized by a handful of titles because they designed a nontraditional processor. The GPUs are mostly identical in performance, in fact the 360’s GPU has some advantages to it. Lastly the 360 has 512MB of shared memory, while the PS3 has a total of 512MB with half dedicated to video and the other half dedicated to the rest. Basically 360 was more flexible in this area, which is why Forza has better textures. But on the flip-side the power of Sony’s processor gave GT5 better lighting features.

        • sigh. Why Microsoft is that corrupted.

          Instead of playing fair, making better game or obtain more developer to make more games for their console, they decide to use their money to lowering their competitor’s game quality, and even use that dirty money to delay the Sony’s game.

          I am for sure not going to support a company as corrupted as Microsoft.

        • >It always cracks me up when people complain about beta software being buggy.

          So? We weren’t talking about this particular software but about games, you know.

          >Except dual booting
          Except that Windows does not have those games either. And it also likes to wipe Linux boot loader on install/upgrade.

          >And WINE
          Oh, believe me, I used that for a while. It’s POS I will not ever touch (hello MIME associations pollution, regressions left and right and problems with even playing something like Melty Blood), it’s also 32 bit only.

          >And native games
          Show me one that looks and plays like Disgaea, Guilty Gear or Ar tonelico. You can’t.

          >And platform agnostic games.
          See previous answer.

        • [quote]I finished them at the time when emulator had buggy backgrounds and some flickers on a world map. [/quote]
          It always cracks me up when people complain about beta software being buggy.

          [quote]Plus, my PC is x86_64 Linux, so… no choice for me other that consoles :}[/quote]
          Except dual booting. And WINE. And native games. And platform agnostic games.

        • >02:04
          >emulators
          >just fine

          Sure, pal. I finished them at the time when emulator had buggy backgrounds and some flickers on a world map. Not sure flickers where fixed by now. Emulation is cool, but you have to wait quite some time. Which isn’t quite “master race.”

        • PC IS master race, too bad it doesn’t have much Disgaea, GG/BB, Ar tonelico, etc. style games at all.

          Well, yeah, they have a few older versions of some games, sure, but that’s it. There might be also Agarest on PC soon… which was horrible anyway.

          Plus, my PC is x86_64 Linux, so… no choice for me other that consoles :}

        • You don’t get it.
          They are charging for shit that is completely free on EVERY other platform in order to force into a subscription.
          If they put up and invest in servers, it’s certainly okay to charge a bit, but this is not the case here.
          They use apps like facebook, netflix and crunchyroll, which cost them nothing, and put them behind aa paywall to evoke the illusion of “value”.
          That shit should be free and, as I said, IS free on PC, iOS, Android and PS4.
          Microsofts problem is the fact that they are completely out of touch with reality.
          If Sony does the same for free, then Sony is the better company for consumers to support.
          It’s that simple.

  • “However, as always with US products and services sharing with the NSA is completely free – and thanks to the power of Kinect now includes the mandatory addition of a continuously recording video camera and microphone”

    ZING!

  • What about the fact that the PS3 is notoriously difficult to capture on? With the removal of all, but HDMI Sony players will have to rely solely on the PS4’s capture and in-game editing. All of a sudden 15 minutes isn’t that long. Neither console has good console recording. Both are, “Something cool just happened,” kind of recording devices. I’m guessing most LPers and game recorders will still use third party hardware.

    • Do your research. Gold has ALWAYS cost $60 a year, even less when you find cards on sale. I appreciate your fanboyism but at least appear intelligent and research the matter a bit, first.

      Sony too has a history of shafting customer. Removing OtherOS and charging for PS2 classics wrapped in a .pkg when slims have a fairly good PS2 emulator that, without CFW, cannot be accessed. I know bashing the XB1 is the cool thing today, but get your shit in order before opening your mouth.

      • Before telling others to do some research you might do a little more yourself since Gold has not always cost $60. It actually used to be only $50 until M$ added ESPN, Youtube, and other apps and said that the $10 increase was necessary in order to fund those apps. Although I think anyone is crazy to pay the full price since, as you mentioned, it’s easy to find a Gold subscription on sale for at least $10 off. I don’t think I have ever paid full price for a yearly subscription.

    • Another possible plan would be to make these kind of declarations, see people rage, and then revoke the idea.
      In doing so they will let people think “Oh hey, Microsoft is reasonable if you react to them”, and opening some sort of ‘open source’, mass-fed ideology in Microsoft’s name which tends to be good PR.

      I know some companies have done this kind of stuff before and have become rather popular now. Hope this isn’t the way MS is gonna try to work with, cause we know in the end there’s a catch. And it’ll leave you without your wallet.

      • Probably won’t work.
        Microsoft fucked up so hard, people will be more like “Those are the people who tried to screw us over”.
        Especially when they are constantly compared to Sony, who did a much better PR job than MS.
        People go for the PS4 just because Sony didn’t act like a bunch of deluded douchebags.
        News like these are just icing and sprinkles on top of the Sony cake.

        • Learn to use a dictionary. ‘Niggardly’ is an old word that means ‘cheap’ or ‘miserly’. Perhaps it is not this site that is racist, but the would-be champion of the poor, downtrodden African-Americans who can’t help but see racial slurs in every word that bears even the slightest passing resemblance.

        • MS PR only fell on def Sony fanboy ears! I actually liked alot of their initail ideas for drm so I could bring any game anywhere. But the reality is that this site thati understand is pro japan is also pro biased to the usa or any other culture or country. Hence the use of niggardly in this sentence. “Whether real users will actually want to use these video sharing services, or whether more niggardly games companies will still occasionally attempt to prosecute them for copyright infringement on the basis of videos of their play, remain unaddressed issues.” So what are you saying (the article’s author) that the game companies are ignorant or that they’re acting like niggers (more commonly stereotyped as african american males)

          Fuck this site for the use of this word and the biased thought that $60 xbl fee doesn’t have value, especially for those already with xbl!

      • I don’t think the people over at Microsoft are intelligent enough to pull off such a plan. The ONLY reason MS went back on their DRM policies was because the PS4 was out selling the xbone something like 10 to 1 in preorders.

        No amount of public outrage will deter MS, the only thing that will get them to reconsider is if people begin canceling their preorders en masse.

    • It seems they want to fail.

      Really if Sega ever wanted the perfect opportunity to get back into the console market now is the time.

      Making something equal to the Xbox one would be something in the realm of a few garage tinkers.
      Making something that raises the bar past even the PS4 is something that only requires a small team of engineers less then 100 and a call to IBM, TSMC or GlobalFoundries and one of the video card manufactures.

      • As an owner of both consoles, PlayStations network is really crappy compared to Xbox live so I don’t see why they compare a free piece of crap to something good that costs a little of money. If you can’t manage $60 a year then you’re a little kid or can’t manage a job.

        • the ps3 is largely an apu that costs about 300$ retail.

          realistically, it’s not hard to beat the ps4 in terms of hardware, no, the problem comes from you need to have the hardware in planning for at least 2 years with a rough, under estimate of what the end hardware will be so game makers can make a game for launch. you then need to have consumer friendly anti piracy, like the 360 had, that doesn’t hinder the experience of the console.

          you than mandate that user sponsored servers for online is a must, and p2p hosting is used only if no servers are available, which you facilitate on a server to a very small cost to you that you eat with every game sold.

          all in all, for me to build a computer that would be better than the ps4 graphically, it would cost all of 500$ (ram, hdd, psu all included, with psu costing the most because you never want that to fail)

          with bulk and corporate discounts, you could probably sell these at 450-500$ and be profitable, but that still doesn’t mean you could succeed, you require the games, which they many not be able to bring for another 2 years, which would be well into this console’s life cycle when people break down and already bought one. it would be almost impossible to do this gen… possibly next gen though.

  • the title should be “people freaking out about this showing how little they know about XBL!”

    Seriously a year’s XBL subscription HAS ALWAYS BEEN $60!

    And given that works out to $5 a month that is still the cheapest option compared to the other monthly plans they offer that that work out to $100-120 if you did a full year on those plans.

    Plus (at least w/ the 360) you could find the year subscriptions on sites amazon for less

    seriously, this is nothing new!

    • plus you’ll have to pay if you want to use full online features for PS4 now….at least with some games if not all of them.

      So while that should shut up many PS fanboys that were gloating about free (though crappy) online service, it’s a bit more of an even playing field now, and really only broke-ass little kids w/ no jobs and who failed math class would freak out about $60 a year

    • No it hasn’t. It used to be $50 per year, but then Activision started making complaints about not seeing any of the XBL profit despite the fact that their Call of Duty is the most played game and suddenly it went up $10.

      Besides that, Xbox Live still doesn’t offer anything to justify paying for.

    • Its cheap, but for the people that rarely play multiplayer mode, but still want to record and upload their gameplay, PS4 is the better option.

      Paying nothing is still triumph over have to pay $5 every month.

    • Anyone who actually cares about their money already buys 12 months XBL for $35 or $40 or they go with PC.

      The $60 price tag or $10-15 monthly is what mothers pay for their squeakers, and seeing that $60 price tag comforts playstation’s brownnosers at night.

    • Yeah we americans make such shitty products. fyi xb1 came out in japan first, so xb is japanese, ported to US. but still. i agree that american shit is usually shit painted to make it look less shitty. and im an american. It’s pretty bad when an american hates his own country.

      -Ryuhouji

      • That’s only because those damned Chinese have undercut nearly everything we make.

        A prime example of this would be my history with microwaves. My family for its first microwave sometime in the mid1980s, that fucker never died, was unbelievably powerful and had Made in the USA written on it.

        But, a couple years back my family decides they want to redo the kitchen and the old bulky microwave is now too big. So they get rid of it and buy some cheap Chinese piece of shit. That microwave did not last one year. So they buy another Chinese turd and the same damn thing happens.

        So I say to hell with this and start yard sale shopping for a genuine American made microwave. Ended up finding the perfect treasure, a Sharp Carousel II, Made in the USA and from the mid1990s. Only paid a mere 8 bucks for it and after owning it for nearly 2 years now I doubt it’ll ever die.

        American made products were fucking great, til some asshole named Bill Clinton thought that a great way to make peace with China was to offshore our manufacturing to China and watch his wife’s stocks in Wallmart climb in value.

        Hell, look at pre1970s gas crisis vehicles. Back then American cars were damn near indestructible. It’s not til the gas crisis were Japanese cars a threat to the big 3, but once they were America started building flimsier cars to compete against the cost of imported brands like Honda, etc.