Aso Sorry for “Learn From Nazi Germany” Remarks

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Deputy Prime Minister, former-PM and noted Rozen Maiden fan Taro Aso has caused outrage by supposedly saying Japan should copy the methods Nazi Germany used to do away with its pesky liberal constitution, although despite his apologies there are some concerns that he may have been grievously misquoted after all.

Aso’s translated comments were quoted as saying Japan should sneak through constitutional reform as Hitler did with his infamous Enabling Act:

“The German Weimar constitution changed, without being noticed, to the Nazi German constitution. Why don’t we learn from their tactics?”

Predictably, China and South Korea have also weighed in, with China warning it that after only 70 years of being Asia’s doormat Japan must “win the trust of Asian neighbours and the international community through concrete actions” and Korea claiming the remarks “definitely hurt many people.”

Top anti-anti-semites the Simon Wiesenthal Center also condemned him:

“What is worth learning from the Nazis? How to secretly undermine democracy perhaps? Has he forgotten how Nazi Germany dragged the world into the abyss of the Second World War?”

Aso quickly retracted his remarks in response to all the controversy:

“I retract my remarks in which I cited the Nazis as an example, as it has ended up leading to misunderstanding.”

The Chief Cabinet Secretary also affirmed this:

“I want to make it clear that the… cabinet will never view the Nazi government positively.”

Japan’s post-war constitution remains unchanged from the version imposed upon the ruined empire by MacArthur in 1947, essentially being a hastily cribbed copy of the US constitution with the notable addition of a “pacifism” clause.

Aso and most of the LDP have long been keen to reform it, with proposals ranging from wholesale reform to allow the sort of authoritarian state most LDP nationalists seem desperate for, to the most moderate and realistic option of a revision of Article Nine to allow a more credible defensive posture against China, although as Japan maintains the world’s 4th largest navy despite its provision that “land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained” the practical necessity of reform seems questionable.

Another recent development has been efforts by the LDP to support an initial reform of the constitution’s requirements for revision, in order to make it easier for them to pass their wish-list of subsequent reforms (most of which relate to stripping individuals of rights, or making the document “more Japanese” as the LDP would have it).

As might be expected, some have alleged his remarks were simply quoted out of context or translated rather liberally (and may have a point, as the original address apparently does not explicitly mention Nazis at all and is clearly alluding to the threat China poses to Japan’s security) – his full address:

The international situation Japan finds itself in now differs completely from that it found itself in when it enacted the current constitution. Thinking you can just shout about the constitution and peace will come is a big mistake.

The objective of the constitution is the stability and peace of the nation. The constitution itself is just the means to this end. It’s not something we should determine in the midst of an uproar.

We should calmly consider what sort of environment we find ourselves surrounded with, after carefully considering the situation conduct constitutional reform in line with public opinion. If we don’t, we cannot avoid a mistake.

Germany’s Hitler arose under the Weimar constitution, at the time thought to be Europe’s most progressive constitution. Even with a constitution regarded as good such a thing was possible.

I don’t want to discuss the constitution in an excited atmosphere. Even with the Yasukuni Shrine, we should visit and pay our respects quietly. What would be strange is that we would not pay our respects to those who gave their lives for the nation. We should visit quietly.

So, saying “we should do it quietly” is also relevant to the Weimar constitution – it was changed without anyone even noticing. How about we learn from their methods? I have no intention of denying democracy, but I do not want to decide something like this in the midst of an uproar.

There is some concern about the level of difference between the full text of his speech and what mass media soundbites have alleged he said:

“If that is what he actually said, what is the problem?”

“Somebody upload his full speech please…”

“The worthless media needs to stop editing what he said and put the whole thing out.”

“Honestly, there is something really wrong with our media if they manage to turn this into ‘Aso supports the Nazis!'”

“Maybe one of them simply didn’t understand the speech?”

“Maybe to the most deluded anti-Japanese maniacs this does look like praise of the Nazis?”

“This is a pretty egregious example of media fabrication. The LDP should do something about the press!”

“The world’s media is going on about him praising the Nazis and the word ‘Nazi’ isn’t even mentioned in the original speech!”

“It looks as though the Yomiuri altered what he said in their quote of him to say ‘The Weimar Constitution was changed into the Nazi Constitution without anyone ever noticing. How about we learn from that?'”

“Aren’t they ashamed? I guess they make more money making things up than would reporting anything honestly.”

“He’s still talking about how they changed the Weimar Republic into the Nazi Germany overnight.”

“I think he has a point… I read the Wikipedia article on the Enabling Act and was convinced. The Nazis did not even abolish the constitution, they just passed an act and overrode it all.”

“According to tweets from people who actually attended, that was the basic content of what he said though – he was saying it doesn’t really matter how good your constitution is you let someone amend it in the midst of a crisis or uproar, not praising the Nazis or the method they used.”


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    Comment by Ultimaniac
    04:57 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    If he does not explicitely mention Nazis at all then why did he apologize for "citing Nazis as an example?"

    Comment by Anonymous

    "German = Nazi". That's what the world believes.

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    Comment by Ultimaniac
    05:23 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, but he still basically confirmed in his apology that he was talking about Nazis.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:49 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    when the media alter a quote and the population start bashing you, you have no choice but to apologize. at least that is how it works in japan

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:26 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    05:49 No, they communicated his true intent behind the words, albiet somewhat clumsily but still on the mark. And this is not just the international media but a scandal started by japanese media first.

    This little fucker can try mouthing off all he wants but no one "misunderstands" the intent behind his pussy lies.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Nope, "Hitler = Nazi". That's what the world knows. If you talk about about Hitler's Germany, the world will asume you are talking about Germany when it was under Hitler's rule. Not doing so is simply retarded.

    Extreme right wingers are the same all over the world, they would let their true colors slip and then apologize and say it was a misundertanding and people interpreted it the wrong way when things turn ugly for them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:38 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who'd vote this comment down?
    It's the truth and nothing else!

    Dumbfucks twisting history (yes, mostly YOU, americunts!) should learn a thing or two and then carefully think about their actions...
    Where'd 'white pride' and 'KKK' come from? HUH?

    Also, never ever make new generations responsible for the evil deeds done by some austrian maniac.
    [Note: There is still the misinformation about Hitler being born in Germany]

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:32 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuck off with 'pride' bullshit like you know something.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:06 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    because he is japanese

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:28 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Very much this.

    What would be accomplish by denying? Minds are already set. (Oh, and I saw the guy in akihabara rally a couple weeks ago, lol)

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    Comment by Imyou
    05:41 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    That doesn't really stand. Japanese officials have apologized for WWII atrocities something like 47(?) times now - but they never explicitly mentioned "comfort women." It's Japanese to apologize for something if you've inadvertently caused offense, but not to lightly admit to something shameful that you have not done.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:16 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuckin laugh riot. Just like no japanese women were raped and are getting raped by koreans, chinese, foreigners and US soldiers? Who gives a shit how many times they mouth off empty apologies when their actions clearly show they don't know their place? No one gives a shit about their 'apologies' which are just excuse making excercises - their mentality is what is childish and criminal. They are whores acting like virtuous virgins acting demur infront of other people and sucking off the whole town in their room LOL

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:29 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I see cowardice and childish excuses are also very 'japanese'. LOL dumb fucks

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:00 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    As expected of Japan's aging demographic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:01 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I didn't know sancom is publishing Japanese politics. I mean they publish Ishihara's stupidity and other remark about anime or loli ban whatsoever but this is just pure politics.

    Avatar of Ishmael
    Comment by Ishmael
    05:59 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because he is from the Japanazi Manga Hater Party.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Fuck off jap bitch/

    Comment by Anonymous

    Suck your dick. Asshole.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Bitch LOL

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:07 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    fuck yourself 'murican retard

    Comment by Anonymous

    'Murica' rapes your women daily ^^

    Fuckin cumdumps get mouthy all the time/

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:11 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Look, someone has to

    Avatar of Imyou
    Comment by Imyou
    12:55 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Look up "Rozen Aso." There is a tangential connection, since he was famously spotted reading Rozen Maiden.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:04 02/08/2013 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Wow first fashion and lifestyle, then makeups, and now politics, you've already hit rock bottom like square haven't you sancom

    Avatar of WEL
    Comment by WEL
    05:15 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    you can always go lower. <---Remember that. XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:53 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    now that you mention square enix, its funny how sancom is quick to bash the company when they get wind of a FF game or a social game but they fail to mention the recently released Bloodmasque iOS game developed by square, which btw is a fucking awesome game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    05:07 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    sancom reporting on japanese politics? cool. full support

    Avatar of WEL
    Comment by WEL
    05:14 02/08/2013 # ! Good (+0.4)

    this guy looks like a gangster.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:28 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    a gangster? he looks like the boss of all mafia bosses - the emperor of the mafia

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:16 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gangster could also refer to mafia people. Including bosses. :D

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:22 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    okay

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:02 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    He looks like your average old man, in a suit, with a hat.
    Just IMAGINE all the GANGSTA's you'd see if you walked by a church on Sunday morning!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:24 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    Aso's always been an extreme right wing fascist. The real surprise is how it took this long for his tongue to slip.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:19 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Observe the laughable excuses and plain bitch attitude he takes when trying to convince others using slimmest of excuses that satisfies his hypocritical dual-faced statement. His speech clearly carries the intent of trying to follow in the example of subverting and over riding the constitution, yet he has no balls to even say that outright without resorting to lawyer speak in leaving a trail of deniability.

    Avatar of KleinerKokiri
    Comment by KleinerKokiri
    06:48 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Simply: Fuck you.
    The Japanese constitution has been basically written by America, after WWII. That's why it includes stuff like "not being allowed to have military forces".

    The Japanese used a bunch of legal tricks to avoid problems until now. It was basically meant to tie them after the war.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    09:10 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Most of the Constitution the US gave Japan should be looked as as a gift.

    It created an environment that fostered freedom of expression and economic development.

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    Comment by KleinerKokiri
    11:16 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    The USA would never accept a constitution which forces itself to be a 'pacifistic country'. it's just the usual imperialistic bullshit.

    And let's not start about your 'freedumbs'. Americans have shown their colours many times. Prism and the NSA leaks are just one more point in your 'freedumbs' list.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Simply: fuck you you weeaboo piece of shit.
    The japanese would have raped and murdered millions if they were allowed to have a military. But youre such a piece of shit weeaboo motherfucker that you would think they are raping and murdering for good. You stupid fuck up motherfucker, learn history assfuck.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:38 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    This isn't the place for your half-assed conspiracy theories. The NSA or Prism have nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:11 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    'Imperialist'? LAWL the bitch excuses keep piling up. Since when did we even give a shit about what you think or what you 'believe' US to be? What country doesn't keep tabs on its citizens? Unlike you, we didn't rampage for less than 12 years racking up 10 million plus casualties in chinese civillians or try and mass enslave so many in so short a time. If you got time to bitch about 'imperialism', go bitch at your friends to make yourself feel better.

    It's always entertaining to watch anti-American fucks bitching and moaning about smallest excuses to America and we just throw you a bone and give a good bitch slap once a while. What happened when park made that speech and abe had to retract his position like a good pochi?

    Some serious LOL here/

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:25 04/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan should be prevented from having any sort of military after what happened in WWII. Also what have they got to complain about? If the Americans didn't help them, allow plagerism for a period of time and help set up their economy; Japan would still be a assbackward mud bucket.

    Face it, Japan would be completely in the shithole if it wasn't for the Americans. The only reason Japan entered the war was because the civilization was absolute shit in comparison to most other nations and just couldn't compete with China in trade and felt economically threatened. It wouldn't even have the tech advancement now if Japan didn't get a massive Free Ticket for plagerism to help them build up their shattered economy shortly after the war.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:14 02/08/2013 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    You got a fuckin constitution when we should have fucked you to pieces in the burning ruins of your paper and stick houses. Better watch that fucking mouth if you like staying in one piece :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:56 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bitch please, cry more.

    Comment by Anonymous

    09:56 LOL bitch get some originality. Squeal harder and I might just pay you a fuckin visit/

    Comment by Anonymous

    Their old ways of doing things was maniacal and demonic. They should NOT be allowed to touch anything until every person born before 1950 is dead or decrepit so they cant influence laws with their insanity.

    They still have another few decades worth of timeout. The young generation is fine, the old ones in power like Aso still long for the evil ways of the past. Under no circumstances should these complete and utter psychos be allowed to govern rights and military.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:23 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    An extremist net-uyo jap detected

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:29 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan started a world war that killed hundreds of millions, remember? The action, and its consequence, were theirs.

    If anything, they got off easy, considering what the Germans got for their half of the war. Thus, today's Germany don't get nut cases like Aso as PM.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:29 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Umm, bub, I don't mean to burst your bubble, but, there is nothing fascist in wanting to change a constitution which does not serve the best interests of the people who empower it.
    What he is essentially saying, is that the constitution should be changed while avoiding strong emotional response from a poorly informed general populace, which entirely reasonable. Nowhere in his speech does he suggest that the public should be kept in the dark about the whole thing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:43 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    The 2nd man in line in charge of the country trying to imitate Nazi Germany is good reason to keep the constitution exactly the way it was, for the sake of Japanese people more than people elsewhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:55 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly the kind of sensationalist bullshit this article highlights.






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