Teacher “Dared Suicide Schoolboy To Kill Himself”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Jul 15, 2013 08:39 JST
- Tags: Bullying, Crime, Mental Illness, Nagoya, Schoolboys, Suicide, Teachers
The latest school suicide scandal to rock Japan has taken on an outrageous new dimension as it is alleged a teacher told a suicidal schoolboy who went on to kill himself later in the day in response to bullying by his peers that he “didn’t have the guts to do it” and that he “should do it if he really could.”
That the 13-year-old Nagoya schoolboy hurled himself off the 11-storey building where he lived in final effort to escape what is believed to have been relentless school bullying is unfortunately no longer surprising, though witness testimony about the conduct of his classmates and – in particular – his teacher has shocked many.
According to these accounts, “A-kun started chanted ‘die, die, die!’ at him and then B-chan started it as well. When he said ‘I’ll kill myself’ his homeroom teacher just told him ‘just try it if you have the guts.'”
These exchanges apparently persisted until mere hours before his death: “Sometimes people would tell him to ‘die’ and he would just be like ‘well, I’ll die then.’ The teacher said ‘there’s no way you can do it’ and that was about 3PM the day he did it…”
His teacher maintains none of these exchanges ever took place and she never even spoke to the boy on the day of his death:
“I heard no such conversation on the day of his death, and I did not speak to him directly at all that day and did not brush him off in any conversation.”
She also maintains he never sought help from her (as he claimed in his suicide note), and that she was unaware of any bullying at all in her class in the first place.
For once the school board did at least concede some bullying may have taken place, noting in its press conference that “from his note alleging multiple unspecified individuals told him to ‘die’ we cannot doubt some sort of bullying may have been a factor” and pledging to investigate further.
A classmate describes him as having been “A cheerful and kind boy… we were supposed to return home together as usual but oddly he said it was ‘impossible’ that day. That was the last time. Maybe if I had pushed him to come we could have talked it over and avoided it…” – although under the circumstances it is easy to imagine he finds himself with many more friends in death than he ever had in life.
With suicide the leading cause of death for young Japanese and bullying endemic in Japanese schools nobody seems that surprised by his suicide, although the alleged behaviour of his teacher is another matter:
“Yet another villainous teacher!”
“Japan, where even the teachers push kids into suicide. Wouldn’t this be a criminal offence of promoting suicide if a non-teacher did it?”
“6 months to 7 years for the crime of instigating suicide, which includes acts instilling in someone the final determination to commit suicide.”
“If it is true the teacher was pretty much directly responsible for pulling the trigger.”
“What did this kid think would happen when he tattled to the teacher about their bullying? That she’d actually care or intervene?”
“The teacher is supposed to have been his one ally against them… instead she dared him to kill himself. No wonder he lost all hope…”
“I cannot believe anyone would think it appropriate to respond to that kind of threat like this!”
“Her attitude doesn’t seem to differ from her pupils.”
“Now it’s her turn to show us her guts!”
“Typical teacher banter isn’t though? Return like for like, but this time someone took things seriously.”
“Honestly I doubt she meant this to happen. Had she intended any malice she would have arranged things a little better.”
“Some people always maintain that the ones who say they’ll do it rather than just doing it aren’t serious, but I don’t think calling a depressed child out on the basis of this is really sensible…”
“She was also claiming there was no bullying in her class though.”
“She also says she didn’t ‘directly’ address him, which makes me wonder.”
“I can’t believe she’ll worm her way out of this!”
“Pretty sure she can’t get away with this one. Too many witnesses are coming out…”
“What’s going to happen to all those kids who told the media what happened…”
“What about the kids who were actually doing the bullying here?”
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Fuck Japan
Fuck YOU !
fuck them "go little girls" from another thread.
I'll start with Lenfried, Pude, and Ushijima.
Except their culture, which we can copy.
I've been punched by a teacher and my immediate response wasn't to throw myself off a building. I got three stitches and he got twelve.
Kids need to harden the fuck up.
You probably deserved it .
lmfao harden the fuck up, more like you cried like a girl and just repressing.
Kids think they're badass LOL if you're on here "gloating" then you're just a dumbass.
You're probably taught some semblence of individuality which may be common where you live.
In Japan though, kids are rather taught to follow the hoarde and bend over to seniors. They dont have your luxuries, because they may never knew it exists.
Because senior is old asshole. One day when you're old and need that seat on the train, you'll understand.
yeah, babies too! they should fight back when they get dropped! :|
It's disgusting.
It's only an allegation. Don't automatically believe the title.
yeah right
Read the article.
Yeah, for some reason I'm not so sure this time either. Something seems off.
The sudden torrent of witnesses coming forward even though usually everyone denies having known or seen anything, the school board's sudden drive to take action even though usually they relentlessly cover things up even in the face of overwhelming evidence like in the other recent school boy case... there's too much fishy here.
The fact that all these unusual things happen when the teacher's a woman for once is strange too.
There can be no denying he committed suicide because of bullying, but there has to be more to this.
True it is an allegation but there is no godamn way in hell she didn't know that this was happening. Children are NOT good at hiding things.
It is easy for children to hide things if adults ignore them.
You're still making some unwarranted assumptions.
There's witness, and suicide note.
Give the past track of Japanese teacher mentality or ignoring bullies, complain to media for taking about suicide at his school(only care about reputation), or join the bullies to bully the student..
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2012/07/08/outrage-at-shiga-schoolboy-suicide-scandal/
calling a suicide as accident..
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2012/09/18/principal-to-bullying-suicide-parents-call-it-an-accident/
, I am not shocked if this indeed the truth.
And adults are not good at figuring out things. When I was in high school, I saw more than enough bullying going right under the noses of teachers, and they couldn't have been any more oblivious. Real bullying is very subtle. More often than not, the only reliable clues are in the behavior of the victim.
I have no idea whether to think this is true or not.
You know when you reach that age...early 20's I'd say...
When you realize how pointless bullying is and stop giving a fuck?
It's a damn shame kids like this end up killing themselves before it gets better.
Bullying ends?
Get out in the real world.
Find a job realising your degree is useless and your new boss, if you're lucky enough to have one, doesn't give a rat's ass about who's little boy you are. In debt? Tough, u have to pay it off. Can't declare bankruptcy. Want a house? Well chances are, even if you get a job, bank will confiscate it. Real world is more touch than school.
Remember, kids: Always kill the bully before jumping off a tall building.
nice advice
In a way, it is. An eye for an eye would make the whole world go blind, but if suicidals start running around murdering people to the point of an epidemic, maybe those fuckers at NPA and Board of Education will finally be forced to take this bullying issue seriously. You know , because other people's lives start to be at stake. If all perpetrators escape unharmed and without consequences, how do you expect this problem to go away?
Japanese government should stop trying to ignore this, especially since they dont have that luxury anymore. You think Japan's shortage of young people is exclusively because the newer generations are reluctant to get married? I'd love to meet the stats compilers because they may have been forced to juke those and hides the real problems by the politicians.
so basically you want to double the unnecessary deaths, and to instil depression among more than one family? do you even think before you type?
I did think about it. Trust me when i say that my initial reaction was disgust towards myself.
However the powers that be in the government, the politicians, they dont give a fuck if it does not hurt their career. They take advantage of japan's culture of social caste and bending over to the authority despite supposedly being democratically elected to serve the people. Nothing will move them from their seats until something truly terrible happens. Just look at Tepco's history if you need proof. Hell, even Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
1000 deaths is tragic for us. These unnecessary deaths though are statistics to the bureaucrats and like a demented scorecard system, they will be the only kind of force those fuckers cant ignore.
That is just the kind of world we live in. Shoot not the messenger.
I agree. Those who are driven to kill themselves by their peers/protectors should also die, for they are the direct cause of said death and murderers themselves.
Sadly, when put into practice we get instances such as Columbine (not Columbine itself, keep in mind), where the victim is just as likely to think, 'Whelp, fuck-it' and just go off randomly (or just have very poor aim and hit the bystanders rather than the intended targets), causing even more tragedy.
But...yes. Bullies should die. They think it's funny to torture another human soul? Let's see the hyenas laugh-off being sodomized by a shotgun before their victim pulls the trigger.
@12:41
I wouldn't call the death of a bully unnecessary.
Dumb ass teacher should loose any and all right to ever teach again.
Her teaching degrees should be revoked.
Then lets see if she wants to kill her self after having to work at a fast food joint to make ends meet.
As for the bullies send them to a drill instructor like Sargent Hartman from full metal jacket.
So you guys want bullied kids to go around shooting at schools? Because, that is one reason why school shootings happen you know. A bullied kid has had enough and decides to set the world on fire...
it would make sense though.
you bully someone, you might get killed by them.
instead of now where the bullies just get scott free.
so basically you want to double the unnecessary deaths, and to instil depression among more than one family? do you even think before you type?
Its the bullies, and their families fault, so who cares if the bully die and their family depressed..
Bullies at fault for bullying and the family for not taking care of that bratty brat good enough.
"Bullies should die. They think it's funny to torture another human soul? Let's see the hyenas laugh-off being sodomized by a shotgun before their victim pulls the trigger."
This statement is bullying itself. Wishing someone die because someone else considers interaction with them to be some form of psychological torture based on a subjective assessment is truly absurd.
Japan's suicide rates are not a problem. Problem is that people want it easy, want to have toys and not children and want few children, while aborting and contracepting the rest away. The same fate awaits Western Europe.
actually an eye for an eye leaves one person left at the end with one eye. You just need to be that last guy.
Saying "Bullies should die" gets a little harder to say when you've experienced being a bully yourself. It's loads of fun, and it's not out of jealousy either...It's pure simple, horrible fun. It's fun to pick on the weak and the different--more so if you're part of a group. You feel a little more alive and you feel a sense of camaraderie with your fellow aggressors. Also, sometimes you just can't help yourself...some people are more fun than the others, or more irritating and therefore better targets, and telling bullies to stop is the same as telling a kid to stop playing games.
Coming from someone who has on both sides of the issue: the best way to deal with a bully is simply to grow some fangs and treat them as equals. Bullies never bully people they see as their equal. Bullies bully because people give them the power to do so by being weak and non-confrontational. Screw what the teachers say, if someone picks on you and threatens to take your stuff, a few bruises on your person is preferable to a year of misery. If they hit you hit back--you might lose, but make sure they know what it means to hurt you. People worry more about the pain they get than the pain they inflict.
I enjoy bullying you shitty betas. Deal with it.
Before dying, get some evidence of them bullying said person and put it in your will via some online host
Give them an URL of said evidence and the people will have no way to "stand back" and held responsible
though of course no one in that state of mind would do it... but just incase
Bullying is not a serious issue.
People just need to stop being such pussies.
@Anon 18:38
I wish you from all my heart that you get bullied atleast for a year so you find out how it is you internet warrior.
If people are killing themselfs then it is a serious issue.
What humans need, is to get back humanity, just like you.
@Anon 18:38 As long as you are to replace the said pussies? Yeah, they probably will.
People have it too good. Back in the past we had famines, diseases, wars, earthquakes without earthquake proof buildings, prospects of nuclear holocaust or global war, incurable AIDS, etc.
@anon 06:02
Nothing but excuses, we live now and we have to deal with the problems that are now.
I dont consider a world where criminals rule over us, leeching us, protected by laws they made themselfs, any better.
Atleast in those times you knew who you were up against, nowadays you dont, the world is filled with lies and bs.
Then again, assholes were present in every era, be it filled with plagues or lies.
Everyone has smartass comments and advices when the problem doesnt invole them, but as soon it does, they curse the world just like those they were so keen to judge.
seriously, if you are going to kill yourself anyway, why not take out as many of those who gave you the trouble anyway? If there were more kids who killed their bullies before they suicide, There will be less bullies.
You mean American style school massacres? Columbine comes to mind.
most of the time the kids harassing other kids are not adults, and its often a matter of questionable parenting. Killing problem kids who generally grow up to be respectable adults is twisted. Not a viable solution at all.
when the bullies grow up, they'll still be bullies, trust me. Put a bullet in them, nip it in the bud.
Eh, most bullies grow-up to be managers or higher, if they're successful. And according to Psychologists those in business leadership tend to be psychopaths.
So it's all good in the end. Kill a bully today, save the world of tomorrow.
Bullies grow up to be respectable adults? What a joke.
Bullies only grow up to become assholes unless someone gives them some of their own medicine to the point of breaking down their ego.
Since bullies have admirable traits that society looks for, I'm sure some of them are very successful. That's the sad thing.
Eh, most bullies grow-up to be managers or higher, if they're successful. And according to Psychologists those in business leadership tend to be psychopaths.
I guess that's how EA was begin.
Well, to be fair, in this current trend in the world. Bullies Rule, Pussies lay to be fucked by them, and Assholes who tend to get shit to everyone else.
What the fuck is wrong with the world?
The human race developed douchebags because certain situations NEED douchebags to fix them.
sadly no guns in japan. the least he can do is put poison in the school lunch when he's on duty or bring a knife.
scary world out there if people are thinking like this
I thought a world where innocent children get mentally tortured into suicide for nothing by other children about their same ages is SCARIER.
This kind of comment invariably reminds me of the Eichmann converting to judaism joke.
Seriously if you're not afraid of death, why worry about a bully f-tard? Come on kids, use some logic.
spoken like a true american
ok, will do
That's the way they do it in america, columbine/etc. Maybe it is just harder to get guns over there in Japan.
uhh every country other than america has strict gun laws. everyone gets butthurt when there's 1 person being stabbed 20-30 times but no one bats an eye when 10-50 people gunned down by a kid.
And how do you explain all the other countries where gun permits are allowed? Last I checked, school shootings is mostly an American thing.
The fuck is this shit?
he probably compared an assault with a dagger on someone in the street's of america-richest (a place to attract attention and media) with a military action somewhere in iraki (i heard these things happen from time to time in war-countries, civilian's getting shot).
and i allmost "missed" the by. gunned down by a kid -> 10-50 people gunned down a kid.
i dont know what "bats an eye" mean ... must be something very americanish. i heard that writing mistakes are automatically corrected by the mind.
i guess i wouldnt have written the comment if i had not missread the "10-50 people gunned down BY a kid".
For me, I would write a suicide note, writing a list of what the bully did to me and how the school poorly handles it, and then kill myself. I don't want to have my family suffer from my reckless talent to kill someone. If I die, but by tormentors live in a hell on earth life-style as they have been forever be scorned by the media, especially with myspace or facebook, then I would be satisfied.
Media has more important things than worry about some bully. Facebook is BS so you'll be doing the bully a favour. The only and real loser is YOU. Suicide is a coward's way.
lol @ weakass japs
@anon 16:42 if they're so weak, why are Americans banning them from growing their military might?
They're Scared Shitless of what the Japs could do, that's why.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You mean the same japs that got bitch fucked and gangraped in the last war?
If you studied history you should know that Americans lost 1.1 man for every german dead on western/african front, while being helped by brits and russians and other allies, AND committing 60% of their resources there. We lost one man in pacific for every 8-10 japs dead. This is done while we only devoted 40% of our resources, paying our workers (instead of taking and pillaging or using slave labor as japs did), while we were assaulting fortified defensive positions, and while they had the best planes, ships, and modern navy prior to 1943 (and we still won guadacanal and midway even though we were outnumbered in terms of fighting soldiers, ships, and out teched in planes).
The only one scared shitless against the world are japs. The only reason they are banned military build up is because they will upset the balance of the region, and will ultimately be fucked to pieces by other nations and Americans in which case America will either annex the worthless island or lose the island as a base of operations. Doing so will result in the genocide of japs, which America will not do until they get uppity again.
It's for your own good that japs are without military. It will be fucking worthless like last time anyway.
Learn some proper shit weak bitch/
Yes, thanks to the European technology. What did the American made? Bullshit?
This.
Remember kids: don't listen to loser kids or loser teachers. Don't jump off buildings or kill anyone. Real life sucks, but there are nice moments nice and again, and if you seek what's right you will find happiness.
note to self: never. under any circumstances. believe a guy which talks bad about another guy to make him look better.
YOU WILL NEVER FIND HAPPINESS IF YOU NEED THIS KIND OF ADVICE FROM THIS KIND OF PEOPLE!