Japanese police have reported the nation’s first child pornography arrest involving “computer generated” artwork.
According to reports, the 52-year-old Gifu city man was arrested for child pornography offences after allegedly selling computer generated images based on photographs of an actual minor.
The “CG” phrasing used in reports of the arrest is ambiguous as to whether 3D computer generated imagery was involved, or whether it was instead 2D imagery created using a computer art package.
Police say the arrest is the first in Japan of its type, although as usual they do not provide much in the way of details or any explanation as to why it was suddenly possible to make such an arrest when there has been no change in the law.
Not surprisingly considering the typical conduct of Japan’s police in these matters, the bust has aroused some suspicion:
“Since when was 2D subject to these laws?”
“They are testing the waters with this arrest. If they aren’t opposed they’ll ramp up these arrests.”
“And people were saying they wouldn’t touch 2D with the new laws… now they are doing it with the existing one!”
“They don’t say whether this was a realistic CG illustration or 3D CG… I suppose if it was anime type CG they would have ignored it.”
“The issue seems to be whether there was a real model. For it to get to an arrest I would think they clearly identified a model.”
“Did he even base this on actual pornography, or was it a junior idol?”
“Like a CG image has any victim. They are warping even the existing laws well outside their intended scope.”
“There was a clear victim here so naturally they were right to make an arrest!”
“Honestly I doubt this was actual CG art. Probably some reworked photograph.”
“Sure, if it was just retouched. But how the cops determine what is applicable is the issue here.”
“I think they picked him up on other charges and added this on. Would be interested to hear just what the circumstances of his arrest were.”
“Without having any idea as to what sort of image was involved it is basically impossible to know what was going on.”
“As ever the cops release no useful details at all. Because they just want to maximise the intimidation factor so artists censor themselves out of fear…”
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wtf happened to sancom while i was gone lol
you guys all need more child porn in your life...come to japan, (it's legal here)
agreed. looks like tcafetra (spell it backwards) is as pale-white as always lol
it's funny that he's so afraid his identity will be revealed that he bans his own name in the comments. too bad i have photos of him that i uploaded on oohcyddad (also spell it backwards, since he's afraid people will see his photos on that site)
it's funny that he's so afraid his identity will be revealed that he bans his own name in the comments. too bad i have photos of him that i uploaded on oohcynnad (also spell it backwards, since he's afraid people will see his photos on that site)
lol dumbfuck asian kid. Run to japan and bitch there.
Lol dumbfuck redneck white kid, Run back to your cousin and watch deliverance another time.
oh look. another libtard. go back to watching CNN you fucking fool
It's not about the CGI he's arrested
It's about the REAL photos which the CGI BASED ON that he's got burst
You guy sure have the tendency to overreact before go through the whole thing, huhm?
You're right. It was mentioned according to the original news in the link. The mas has 12-13 years old girl's photo in his PC.
I think SanCom intentionally skip that part of the story.
Sancom shouldn't do news. They fuck things up worse than fox news. They should stick to game/anime related news.
And china bashing. Lol
actually their game/anime news is just as fucked up
i dont see the difference here
At least with Sancom the lies make good satire, but a lot of people believe everything they read on some subjects which is extremely problematic.
No Fox news is still worse then Sancom as at least Sancom is still half true.
There are many interesting news that Sancom misses like that funny exoskeleton informecial or watamotte nendoroid.
People voted down the fox news comment which means they must be supporters. I finally understand why sankaku is filled with so many dumbasses.
Nowhere in the link does it say that he was arrested for posession of child porn - that's as far as I know, still legal in Japan. Just that spreading of it is illegal. What it does say is that he got arrested based on regulations against child prostitution and pornography (i.e. selling it).
Personal conjecture? He was paying school girls for sex and taking pictures/videos to be later used, among other things, as materials for his CG. Then one of his "victims" busted all her customers for whatever reason.
Like the translated comments say, this case looks like something they just slapped on top of everything else(=child prostitution charges) they busted him for.
Sandy Cum, protector of pedophiles and promoters of child pornography.
*sigh* why do morons like 00:23 exist ?
How do YOU or ANYONE know if a real minor was involved. We aren't allowed to see the proof, and never will be.
They could just lock up anyone on charges of child abuse, and say the evidence can't be shown.
Because that's what courts are for.
Even if there's corruption in the justice system, the perpetrator attempting to plead innocent by saying the photos didn't even exist would throw quite a few eyebrows.
Who is to say the jury or judge can't be corrupt or ignorant? It happens all the time.
The justice system is a load of corrupt bullshit.
Because it was stated in the japanese news, gosh.
Except the real photo was just someone's baby picture, showing no sex act. 3D = legal, 2D = arrest.
Yeah, it's not about the the actual "cartoon image" it's about the original...
Good riddance..
If possessing/selling the unaltered picture wouldn't have resulted in him being arrested, he shouldn't be prosecuted for editing the image.
In all likelihood, it was a proper and personal child porn picture, which would be illegal for sale. Posession itself isn't criminal, but he wasn't arrested for that.
It wouldn't be Sankaku Complex if they didn't do that.
You know how dumb jap society is, right? It only takes a bit of time before all of them jump on the wagon of anti ero-CG of any loli wether fictional or based on an actual kid. If the cops don't emphasize on making that the CG is completely different to the ones seen usually, the general population would conclude all loli CG is bad and IS a form of child pornography
I think some American politician are in play here ... they want to change Japan to become like their country
This is some dumb shit you believe in. Americans could care less about japs or their idiotic behavior. Blaming outside politicians is a bitch move and shows your anxiety about American influence. Funny that, since most of the problems are primarily motivated by local politicians and trouble makers yet when they dangle 'blame america' bullshit all the gullible and weak mongrels chase after it like whores in heat.
Little sluts should just stay quiet and spread their legs.
Finally I found a site were some other country gets more hate than America, thank god.
Are you a pedophile?
Yup. If you read the article that's what's alleged. So you can't assume it's just CG fantasy but someone who turned known childporn into CG. No reason to overreact. Sooner or later someone was going to try to make reallife childporn look like it was made entirely on a computer.
Well now the only question is was the victim actually nude or doing a disturbing act or did this guy just nab a swimsuit photo and draw over it?
Even if that is the case, why does it matter? Turning a picture of a fully-clothed child into a nude picture of a child should NOT be a crime in the slightest.
Hell, even taking pictures of nude children shouldn't be a crime.
Sexual situations as well.
It's time to get off the bunkus that children need to be 'protected' from sex (they can protect themselves by simply telling an authority figure if someone does something to them, sexual or not, that they dislike) and move on.
I think you're misunderstanding something here.
The real issue is there aren't any details released in regards to the case, so it's impossible to know just what they're basing the arrest off of.
If -- and I highly stress this word -- there was an actual child who was put through a sexual situation and the artwork was based off of that, then everyone would agree that the arrest was lawful.
But, on the other hand, if the artwork was purely fictional, then there was no real child molestation involved. That, in turn, would mean that the police were overstepping the boundaries of the law and were arresting people simply as they saw fit.
The police have apparently said that the artwork was based on photographs of an actual minor, but where is their evidence for that? What if there was no relation whatsoever between the artwork and any real child? What if the cops were using a fake reason to try and get an arrest and were merely using some random photograph, trying to make phony ties to it as a basis? What if the pictures it was based off of were of some normal child in a normal situation with their clothes completely intact and the artist simply felt like drawing what was in him imagination instead? If any of those are the case, the police are clearly twisting the law due to the fact that there was no actual victim and henceforth no actual need to arrest him.
Because there's no way to prove one way or the other due to insufficent information, it's only natural that people would react in a fearful sort of way. There are simply too many, "What if"s, and people don't feel quite so safe anymore because of it. They'd never know if they could be arrested on thin charges like that as well.
All it'd take is a cop with some messed up interpretation of the law and suddenly a completely innocent person could be behind bars for potentially years. All the while, the real child molesters and rapist run about unhindered because the police are too focus on the wrong targets.
I'd point out that he was arrested for reasons unrelated to this CG picture. The CG picture was then just added on top of everything else. Reason for arrest was violation of _child prostitution_ and forbidden pornography laws.
Also, just because a picture is based on a real child in a sexual situation doesn't neccesarily make the arrest lawful. Under rule of law, if something isn't criminalized, it's not punishable. Simple posession of child pornography is not illegal in Japan. I'd also assume that using your private collection for some 'inspirational drawing' is still okay. The reason he is being charged is the commercial intent - selling child pornography is a no-no.
Also if you are going to start pulling theories about how the police could have just conjured stuff up to get this arrest, you might as well question every crime related judgement ever. Obviously a court is going to see the original picture that was source for the CG picture. Obviously, a court isn't neccesarily going to dish out real justice and could be corrupted, but at that point you got significantly bigger problems and you are better off questioning every single judgement given by that court, be it a murder or shoplifting.
I think we have a fairly simple case in hand here. The guy was originally arrested based on anti-child prostitution laws - he probably was fucking little girls, taking pictures and videos, one of the girls tattled on him, cops found his collection and CG pictures obviously based on them - and he was selling them. That's a no-no, so added charge for selling child pornography on top of everything else.
Not to mention the fact that Japanese police have been known to make bogus arrests before.
Actually, police around the world have been known to make bogus arrests, not just the Japanese. It's a trait that's common amongst police worldwide.
Exactly, if you are a 'boogie man' for society, the police are known to arrest on a whim unless you are a RICH boogie man for society who can legitimately fight back against them.
I think you're misunderstanding something here. The real issue is that there aren't any details released in regards to the case, so it's impossible to know just what they're basing the case off of.
If -- and I highly stress the word -- there was an actual child who was put through some sexual situation and the artwork was based off that, then everyone would agree that the arredt was lawful.
But, on the other hand, if the artwork was purely fictional, then there was no real child molestation involved. That, in turn, would mean that the police were overstepping the boundaries of the law and were simply arresting people as they saw fit.
The police have apparently said hat the artwork was based on actual photographs of a real minor, but where is their evidence for that? And just how strong was the "basis" on the real photographs? What if they were simply normal photos that were not sexual in nature and the artist merely drew what was in his imagination, so to speak? What is the police were merely using some random photograph as the basis when it in fact had no relations to the artwork at all? What if there weren't even any "real photographs" at all and the cops were making a phony arrest on someone just because he happened to have 2D tastes? If any of those are the case, the police are clearly twisting the due to the fact that there was no actual victim involved, and henceforth no need to arrest him.
Because there's no way to prove one way or the other due to the insufficient information, it's inly natural ti assume that people would react in a fearful sort of way. There are simple too many what ifs involved, and people ni longer feel quite so safe because of it.
All it'd take is some cop with a messed up interpretation of the law and suddenly a completely innocent person could be behind bars for potentially years. All the while, the real child molesters and rapists continue unhindered because the police are too focuesed on the wrong targets.
THAT'S the real issue here.
i like how you claim there can be no conclusion due to lack of info, and yet your argument leans strongly in defense of the perpetrator. Hm, personal opinions glaringly obvious. You're all retarded virgins.
Possession of child pornography is legal in Japan, so it can't be that.
It quite clearly says the was selling it. Now think who would buy original CG loli images when the internet is full of them? Who would even sell them? I'm not saying that the Japanese police absolutely did the right thing here, but assuming these allegations are true, they didn't do anything wrong.
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that's the part make the whole law become extremely vague & in most case, prove it can be misused. You have the image legally doesn't mean you're able to make image from the real thing, LEGALLY.
There's a Tweet from a certain lawmaker. He said the local officials around Japan are encouraged "from the high-ups" to increase charging cases like this to promote for that stupid revised bill.
The best we can do is hoping this whole shit will just be another abandoned law. Or if you need to complain? Tell that to bunch of $(*&%^#(*$& activists/feminists from UNICEF. They are the true ringleaders behind all this.
Make no mistake, Anon. Child pornography of any form is illegal, and to say otherwise is just stupid.
This issue is that it is based off of a real child, however as usual Sankaku doesn't really do much journalism before it makes claims, so we don't know to what degree. If it was based on a real girl, then it depends to what degree it was based off of them and to what degree it fits the bill of 'pornography' considering child models run rampant.
As usual, police in this matter aren't really to be trusted in Japan, but realistically, if he pushed his limits relative to reality, and the way in which he sold it were out of the accepted pathways, then he pushed a bit too far.
@HouseLife:- Japan's Child pornography law, state it is illegal, to distribute and produce, the anonymous is correct when he said (real) child pornography is legal to have in your possession, I think the problem here is he distributed which means the police have the right to arrest him but depending on the GCI, I can't say as whether or not if what we know is enough information.
Actually, Anonymous 22:05, all those studies have been done by adults so the conclusions of those are.... iffy at best.
I personally raised my children and allowed them to make their own choices about EVERYTHING, sexual and not.
They were very good at making legitimate choices on their own. Yes, they were sometimes choices that old fuddy duddies wouldn't have agree with, but those old fuddy duddies can go fuck themselves.
Actually, it's been proven already that the brain undergoes various stages of development from infancy to relative 'adulthood', and that's a large part of what constitutes an adult.
The majority of minors below the age of 14 may be able to appear mature from the outside, but that doesn't necessarily mean they understand what it is they're doing or saying from an emotional, moral, psychological or other aspect.
You're also ignoring hormones, which change in balance naturally as one ages; a sudden interest in sex and an increase in sex drive can cause irresponsible behaviour in a 'minor'.
dude, the problem generaly lies in what is a minor. Under 18 years? Under 16 years? Under 14 years? The truth: biologically and psychologically, there isn't a age to determine what is a minor or not. So each contry create a completely arbitrary, completely debatable age to call someone a minor. So if the police don't give information regarding what age is this model (if she is a 17 years old girl or 3 years old), people will tend to be against the police in this case.
pretty much this!
Now piss off people shows over