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Final Fantasy fans are decrying the complete death of the franchise and the last vestiges of Square with it, after Nomura’s reassurances that “it may be an action game, but you mustn’t forget it is Final Fantasy!” provide unambiguous confirmation of it not even being an action RPG.

Nomura had this to say in a recent interview:

It is being presented as “a Final Fantasy action game,” but I wasn’t thinking of it like that.

True, we did want to get rid of the UI, remove hit counters, restrict the playable character to Noct and so on. But if we did all it that it would become just another action game like all the others.

The team is saying, “don’t forget this is Final Fantasy before it is an action game.”

In response to the question “so what is Final Fantasy?” he also manages to avoid mentioning RPGs at all:

I think it is thinking about the numbers while fighting in a party. “FF” is different to existing action games and FPSes, you can see the quantity of damage you’re taking and inflicting, and how much you are healing. Managing those numbers is the “thinking about the numbers” part.

And in FFXV you can switch freely between 3 characters, so it is also about party combat. There are lots of combos and you need to be aware of characters outside the party.

Few will be in danger of forgetting what it is in any case, as the game’s content and character designs are also attracting criticism – with the all-male and exceedingly “Nomurish” cast in particular being dismissed as “another one of Nomura’s host gangs” and “completely lacking any female presence” (which he concedes himself, saying “yes, it’s nothing but guys, although there is one new girl”):

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    Comment by Anonymous
    13:31 26/06/2013 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Wow boys band fantasy

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:50 26/06/2013 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    fujoshi market is vast

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:50 26/06/2013 # ! Good (+0.7)

    As if FF hasn't already had every fujoshi drooling over it since rampant shippings of Cloud x Sephiroth... nothing new.

    But if an all male cast is the only thing turning someone off this game then that just basically tells people that they've just been using FF for fap material up to this point... lol.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:59 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    @16:50 - fuck Cloud x Sephi... Cloud x Barrett lol Somehow they have that special chemistry in the original (the only FF7 product that exists, the rest is commercial fanfiction).
    Else, Aerith would be the only true love... remember the date in Gold Saucer and the play, that was good stuff.
    Tifa never had a chance, I mean, she's his osanajimi = friend zoned.
    If someone still has a chance it's either Marlene or Denzel (depending on Cloud's tastes lol).

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:53 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean that wasn't what they've been using it for? O_O

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:38 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    FF = For Fujoshi

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:58 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    all of the success titles are fap materials :P

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:25 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    @16:58 - but not "just" fap material... not to most people, at least.. funny you didn't catch the "just"

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:27 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fujos are rare even among otaku culture. Mind you, unlike popular opinion, not every female otaku is automatically one. In fact, there are lots who'd feel offended about being considered one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:26 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    she's in the closet

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:50 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly... I personally know a ton of female otaku and anime fans, but I don't know a single fujoshi...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:46 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kuja X Zidane where?

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    Comment by ChaosConsuming
    14:27 28/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Stupid sexy Kuja... I was convinced he was a chick.

    ...

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:40 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Center and left one, the rest look like normal action game characters.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:14 26/06/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    So that blonde on the left is actually a guy? Or is that the one girl in the whole game because I can't tell.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:59 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Here, the one girl -

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130612232109/finalfantasy/images/7/73/51b7a87d_Final-Fantasy-XV-Unknown-6.png

    But the girl of the game to me is Yoko Shimomura, she's gonna make this game really awesome!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:29 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    That's not the only girl, just the newly-revealed one. There's also the long-haired blonde, featured in the previous Versus XIII trailers, who plays a more important role, and is likely the main love-interest/enemy of the game. It appears that her and the main character's fathers are the leaders of two warring nations, and that they've each been given a power that they use to fight against the other, hence the 'Versus' from the original title.

    Going by the positioning of the portraits at the end of the new trailer, both girls are likely sided with the opposition, and hence won't likely be fighting with you, but against you, at least for much of the game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:01 28/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Stella Nox Fleuret

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:14 01/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Versus was so named because it was the opposite of FFXIII in design philosophy, there was almost a schism in the studio at the time.

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    Comment by Rene
    13:52 26/06/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Oh look, Backstreet Boys are back.

    Fuck off, Nomura.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:08 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would say Arashi. I would feel bad just typing the name of the guys you typed about...

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:50 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    action RPG would be too epic and risky to make profit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:20 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It's not as big as a risk as say... ditching the world map for linear hallways.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:09 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    but it is an action RPG

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:31 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Feels like Final Fantasy Agito

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:48 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    pretty much

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:01 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It doesn't bother me if SquEnix wants to make action games. Go for it I say. Just don't call it Final Fantasy IMO.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:02 23/09/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Having action combat doesn't mean it won't be an RPG. Having action combat, no exploration, no customization, and little character growth would be a greater signifier of that... I'll wait to see the rest of the game's elements before I make a judgment...

    Comment by Anonymous

    It's a FF in every way except that it's not turn based... just like what happened with FFXI, XIV, Tactics, etc... so what's the problem this time?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:06 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    FFXI & FFXIV are MMORPGs, Tactics is strategy with RPG elements.
    The problem is that this is a MAIN GAME, a numbered title, and it's neither (MMO)RPG nor strategy. Spinoff games CAN be whatever genre they want... but the big numbered titles have always been RPGs.
    Also, so far this doesn't have anything to do with FF... despite the name, the "Nomurish" character designs, and most likely attack names + monsters/summons/creatures (Cactuar, Chocobo, Moogles)...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:47 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @ 19:23

    Actually:
    FFX: Nearly on-rails half-RPG
    FFXII: Singleplayer MMORPG
    FFXIII: Fully on-rails pretend-RPG

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:47 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    @19:37 - you re-read it...

    "I think it is thinking about the numbers while fighting in a party. “FF” is different to existing action games and FPSes, you can see the quantity of damage you’re taking and inflicting, and how much you are healing. Managing those numbers is the “thinking about the numbers” part."

    And Action game with RPG elements is an Action RPG.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:23 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    FF I RPG
    FF II RPG
    FF III RPG
    FF IV RPG
    FF V RPG
    FF VI RPG
    FF VII RPG
    FF VIII RPG
    FF IX RPG
    FF X RPG
    FF XI (MMO)RPG
    FF XII RPG
    FF XIII RPG
    FF XIV (MMO) RPG
    FF XV Action.

    C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER!

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:37 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Re-read the article once more, it is Action only and not Action RPG

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:50 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    The article says only that is an action game, not that isn't RPG and just looking and the gameplay it is one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:18 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry, but the MMOs were already given numbered titles, and those play little like the single-player Final Fantasy games, even if they are technically both kinds of "RPGs". Honestly, I felt Square was being a bit deceptive with their titling back when XI first came out, but by this point, people should realize that numbered Final Fantasy games won't necessarily follow a traditional single-player JRPG format. If Square put the resources into giving this game the production values of a fully-numbered installment, and naming it this way is what it takes for the game to sell well, then I have little problem with them doing so, so long as the game is good. If anything, you should have more of a problem with them tacking a number onto their mediocre MMOs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:05 28/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    You know, that list of titles reminds me of Game Dev Story, where they encourage you to make one game after another of the same type to improve quality, then complain when you make too many of the same type..

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:54 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Once you've given up on the games in the main series ever being good again, does it even matter?

    Comment by Anonymous

    FF XI - MMO RPG
    FF XIV - MMO RPG
    FF Tactics - Strategy RPG
    FF XV - Action RPG

    I don't see the problem.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:39 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Final Fantasy ended with X everything after that was some crap a bunch corporate marketing shit heads slapped the Final Fantasy name on.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:47 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It ended with IX, not X.

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    Comment by Chen-04
    17:10 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Let's face it. It ended when they switched away from Nintendo. After that they just started a new series and the first of that was called VII and it was a good game, so no one complained.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:00 23/09/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    FFX was the ultra same linear garbage as FFXIII.
    It was barely an RPG.

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    Comment by A

    No it didn't end after 10. This new one is called 15 you know, so if you can count after the number 10, it obviously hasn't ended.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:01 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    He was speaking figuratively, genius.

    Comment by Anonymous

    hahah... and you got bit by a troll "genius"

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:01 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I give up... There really is no more hope for FF and Squeni...

    Just make it the final fantasy and start with a new IP already.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:41 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    Well it still looks better than 13 and all it's spin offs.

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    Comment by Nova
    21:36 26/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, it doesn't.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:51 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    It unquestionably does...

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:56 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    This comment shows how much of an idiot you are.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:52 27/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Like dUH!. It's on PS4. :I










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