Japan Promises 8K UHD Anime “In 2020”

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Following from the confirmation that Japanese TV will start 4K UHDTV broadcasts in 2014, 8K broadcasts are now firmly on schedule for 2020.

The Japanese government has already decreed 4K UHD (or “Super Hi-Vision” as UHD will be known in Japan) will begin broadcasts in 2014, with full 8K UHDTV now confirmed as scheduled to start in 2020 – to coincide with what they undoubtedly hope will be the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.

A trickle of 4K (2160p, or 3840×2160) capable TVs has already hit the market at high prices, but with content at the new higher resolutions almost non-existent (an entirely new generation of Blu-ray discs and players is required in addition to a complete overhaul of broadcast infrastructure) it seems sales pick up until NHK finally gets the ball rolling with its gripping sumo coverage.

It will likely be many years more before any content in the 8K resolution is widely available.

Whatever the merits of such extremely high visual fidelity, there is widespread scepticism about what is widely believed to be a carefully contrived marketing ploy by the Japanese government and consumer electronics giants to provide an upgrade treadmill to drive TV sales for years to come, not a surprising concern given the decades long failure of pseudo-3D and the fact that TV screen sizes now outstrip available living room sizes, particularly in Japan:

“Still trying to drum up demand by forcing everyone to buy new TVs I see.”

“So the ministry is going to turn off HD broadcasts in a few years in favour of 4K and 8K to make everyone buy new TVs?”

“Where the hell are we expected to put these huge things? The ceiling is about the only place they’d fit.”

“Honestly, with the gap between 4K and 8K being so short I rather suspect a lot of people will hold off buying 4K ones.”

“Everyone will skip 4K.”

“As soon as the talk of 8K started they made skippers the main type of consumer.”

“The price will differ though. People who don’t care about image quality will just be able to wait it out with a cheap one.”

“I can’t wait to watch Go matches in 8K, can you?!”

“As if there is anything worth watching on anyway.”

“Anime really adapted well to HD, despite people saying it would kill it.”

“It really came into its own with HD! The lavishly detailed backgrounds and scope of artistic expression possible with HD really helped it.”

“I can see it being great for nature and sports, but for celebrities and variety shows it is pointless, and it’ll just make dramas look cheap.”

“Those poor tokusatsu shows…”

“The leap from an old CRT to an HD TV was pretty massive and anyone could see that… I wonder about these new ones though.”

“4K and 8K seems a bit like 720p and 1080p. It doesn’t seem full diffusion will be likely until 2030 either. Although I guess PC displays will be that high as a matter of course.”

“Over 32 inches on a PC display seems too much. And you only need to see 100 degrees, anything else is wasted.”

“I still have a CRT TV! I see I was right to keep waiting for this.”

“The TV back then actually still had some merit too.”

“It is doomed, there are simply not that many people that interested in this level of quality.”

“I really want one of these – to use as a PC display.”

“That’s all I ever use mine for.”

“The TV stations are just going to drop the resolutions all the time so there is no point.”

“Even now you still see CMs in SD. They’ll never catch up.”

“That’s just for local stations. Anything new is in HD.”

“Can we please have channel flipping as fast as analogue TV?”

“It needs more tuning hardware, so it’s a cost issue. High-end models like Regza can manage it even now.”

“We need a holodeck, not just higher resolution.”

“I just wish they would make their AC adapters smaller…”

“Why does everyone bash UHD? I really don’t get the Japanese objections to this.”

“I guess we are going to 16K, 32K and 64K next?”

“I’ll wait for 128K.”

“Over 8K and the human eye will not be able to discern much of a difference, so what is the point?”

“What’d be really amazing is if the TV industry manages to survive in its current form to 2020.”


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    Avatar of Benoist
    Comment by Benoist
    22:58 10/06/2013 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    one harddrive per coalgirls release

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:03 11/06/2013 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    In future I have to wait a month to download an episode from Coalgirl..

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:09 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    H.265 and 10bit should be well supported by then. So many it won't be too bad.

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    Comment by Gogetters
    05:42 11/06/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    They'll bloat anything they get their hands on.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:57 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    hummm.... why did people down vote this post? h. 265 was designed with 4k and 8k in mind. It make the video stream smaller while maintaining the same quality as h.264 (which is used by 1080p BD).

    H.265 is coming soon and would most likely be built into the PS4 and XboxOne.... although I don't know if the WiiU will get a software codec to support it or not.

    Random.idiot

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:22 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    How big of a screen and how close would you have to sit to even get any benefit from 4k or 8k...nevermind that tv anime is produced at 720p atm.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:29 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    i sit 7-10 feet away from the tv, that would make 1080p viable up to about 80-100 inches

    most people who see 4k see it up close, not in their normal living area...

    hell, i have a 1920x1200 monitor, it has 90-110 ppi (i forget which) if i got a 4k, it would need to be 48 inches to keep the same ppi, otherwise i would have to bloat out the ui in all my programs, making that bigger resolution a moot point...

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:48 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    1080p on a cellphone looks good in such a small screen, so maybe 8k in TV screen will look great.

    In any case, since things are not done in films anymore, they better do something that will last for future resolutions without the need of up-scaling, like happened with the introduction of the FullHD/Bluray.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:13 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Probably because of my typo, "many" instead of "maybe". You know these things cause some people to rage.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:25 11/06/2013 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Or alternatively VP9.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:12 14/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    No one has ever downloaded a blu-ray rip with multi-audio FLAC and high bitrate apart from CoalGirls before? You guys signalling out CoalGirls just shows how mainstream they are, for if you are in the know-how of high-fidelity anime rips, many other groups have similar filesizes.

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    Comment by Primus de Pedos
    21:06 10/06/2013 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Next Time: Japan promises movie theater screens in 2040

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:43 10/06/2013 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    can i have an 8k hentai too?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:51 11/06/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    i'd be happy with just 720p hentai. why the fuck is it dvd quality. wheres the blurays

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    Comment by Chen-04
    06:57 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yeah... lack of HD is one of the reasons I stopped watching anime porn.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:50 10/06/2013 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Yep, but without lolis, incest, tentacles, yaoi, lesbian or rape content. Because with this, japan also promises to get rid until 2020.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:33 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    So what does that leave us with?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:33 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    That's not hentai, that's called marriage...

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    Comment by kintama00
    23:10 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    why buy a TV than :o

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:45 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    There's no normal hentai. You can't prove she's not below 18.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:54 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    That leaves us with consensual relationships.

    Comment by Anonymous

    hentai for normal people (as normal as you can be if you watch hentai)

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    Comment by Dia
    22:26 10/06/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Fuck 4k. Give OLED.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:09 15/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    THIS. And regardless what expert might say, I firmly believe 4k only has an effect on bigger tv screens. Bigger screens means bigger living room, which most people like me just don't have.

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    Comment by Sylar
    23:34 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly. HD Resolution is more than enough. we don't need this silly super resolutions where we can't even tell the difference. Just make better technology Tv's, with better coloring, black and white etc.

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    Comment by Ace3DF
    21:09 10/06/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    So does that mean that Blu-rays will start to have half the episode on the disk?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:03 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    that means that bluray isnt even going to work, youll need a brand new media player that will support this unnecesary BS, i mean at 1080p youll already need 50+ inches to fully appreciate it, 8k would be over 200 inches and that does not fit in ANYBODY living rooms

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:12 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well it fit in mine but would not pass by the stairs and door...

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:14 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    well they can still make 5" ones, the resolution size will just be unessesarily high.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:14 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    50"*

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    Comment by Hoshi
    00:17 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Blu ray flippers

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:17 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well that's in line w/ how they're selling episodes frankly.

    I'm more afraid of how much real estate those will occupy on my HDD. It's like installing Windows 7 again... Every week.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:35 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Hopefully by then we have better codecs. And it's been said before, but I don't want to upgrade my television anytime soon. I wonder if rippers will lower resolutions on releases to 720p.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:12 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, if you mean rest of the world.
    Japan is pushing their standards so the industries can grow a ball.

    Who knows they'll be pushing h266 too.. or even better 269, if you know what i mean

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:01 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    For now madvr is still the best i think.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:12 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Please go google what a video codec is

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:05 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Codecs are pretty much maxed out, h265 having about twice the efficiency as h264.

    I predict 4k by 2020, not 8k.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:11 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Looks like people are going to need better make up. lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:57 11/06/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Just imagine a pussy close-up in (uncensored) porn! You'll be able to see much more detail in the screen-filling, high-resolution video than what you could see if you were actually fucking the girl!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:26 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    8K UHD, better than reality

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:45 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    to bad jp porn is censored

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    Comment by Satonaka
    03:02 12/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Remember: its not censored, in Japan, that's how they really look like XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:53 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    The funny thing is - most anime still have only between 8-14 real FPS (duplicating the images to get them to 25 fps). Why are they working on an even higher resolution when clearly having more real FPS would make it a better experience?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:15 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    To sell more TVs...

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:14 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why are you talking about FPS in animation? Animation doesn't work that way.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:07 12/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    ummm yes it does

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:34 13/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol what an idiot that guy is that he doesnt get it that fps isnt the main reason here...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:17 10/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    because the sharper image doesn't require more work,

    more FPS do .

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:13 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sharper image does require more work. Anime is not made in 1080 usually, and I doubt that will change.

    I mean, it's not a photo, it's someone's drawing canvas.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:05 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    480p is good enough for anybody

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:39 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    if u have a nice WS CRT like me.... yes 480p is still beautiful....

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:43 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    480p is the new eye cancer quality.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:13 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    What is pixel density?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:22 11/06/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Speak for yourself.






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