Xbox One “Clearly Inferior” To PS4, Sony Stock Surges

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Sony’s PlayStation 4 is already being heralded as the victor of the 8th generation console war, as news of just how poor Microsoft’s Xbox One offering is have begun to sink in, with poor specs, a pathetically weak games line-up, excessive emphasis on TV rather than games, no backwards compatibility and no support for used games all combining to offer a massive boost to Sony’s share price.

The latest hardware comparison information, still not officially confirmed but widely believed to be correct based on earlier leaks:

PS4
・CPU: Jaguar 8 Core CPU @ 2.0GHz
・GPU: Radeon GPU @ 1.84TFLOPS
・Memory: 8GB GDDR5 @ 176GB/s
■Features:
・Backwards compatible with previous PS* games
・Can remote play on PSV
・PlayStation Eye
・Supposedly plays used games
・Est. price: $300-$500
・Has a Share button!

Xbox One
・CPU: Jaguar 8 Core CPU @ 1.6GHz
・GPU: D3D 11.1 GPU @ 1.2TFLOPS
・Memory: 8GB DDR3 @ 68GB/s
■Features:
・No backwards compatibility
・Now has Blu-ray & TV support, in the US at least
・Kinect
・Plays used games if you pay again
・Est. price: $300-$500
・Has Windows 8!

Presumably these specs are regarded as sufficient for watching TV, playing EA Sports titles and waiting to connect to the latest cloud gaming extravaganza, but there are major doubts as to them putting up serious competition to the PS4 as time progresses – although the possibility of MS simply bribing developers to restrict the graphics of multi-platform titles to Xbox One levels has also been raised.

As if all this were not bad enough, Microsoft has also confirmed what had been amongst the worst fears for the PlayStation 4it will not play used games, unless the user pays a ransom to let them register the game on their Xbox Live account:

Individual games will be tied to Xbox Live accounts, Microsoft said, meaning that the software giant can detect whether a game has been sold to a retailer and repurchased, or handed from one friend to another. In such instances, the second user must pay a fee.

“On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” a Microsoft representative told Wired.

The company added that, once discs are installed on the hard drive, games can be played without a disc being in the tray.

The Wired article then elaborates:

“What follows naturally from this is that each disc would have to be tied to a unique Xbox Live account, else you could take a single disc and pass it between everyone you know and copy the game over and over. Since this is clearly not going to happen, each disc must then only install for a single owner.”

The news that Sony has likely already won the console war for the entire next generation sent their stock surging even as Microsoft’s announcement continued:

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  • Anonymous says:

    erm… Ps4 is not backwards compatible, hate piss poor rumor posts.

    Ps3 and backwards games may be available to stream over the genkai/cloud like system. whether or not that will require the PS4 to be constantly connected to the net when playing such games is unknown because Sony has said very little.

    Sony confirmed they would not lock games to an account but Game developers could meaning it will be that same as Xbox but not ‘Sonys’ fault.

    Xbox one does look poor but trying to compare it to an unknown console (which sounds pretty much similar imho)is pointless.

    & yes Ps3 games looked worse than Xbox 360 for the most part because the game was made on Xbox 360 then ported to Ps3 (eg Fall outs, Skyrim, CoD -and of course all the glitches it caused in some titles) unless it was designed by one of sonys studios or a developer that took the time and effort like Konamis Metal gear solids.

    If the ps4 is easy for developers to make games for it may give them the edge this time purely on that. Sony has made a lot of mistakes with the Ps3 and have learned from them (install times, crap triggers on the pads, crap network for multiplayer).

    if games are made for which ever the lower spec system turns out to be and ported due to the ease. It might make no difference in graphics between the two systems for the most part.

  • Anonymous says:

    I really don;t have any criticism of Xbox – don’t care enought to go there. But I will be buying a PS4 because of being a fan of some of the previuosu exclusives & wnating to see what those devs come out with for the next playstation. It’s all about the games to me.

  • LOL, I’m seriously supposed to believe that a console wins the next console war at least 6 fucking months before any one of them is released because Sony’s stock jumped that day? Surely you jest.

    Remember, E3 is less than three weeks away, so we’ll see a lot more about these game consoles, their actual performance side-by-side, ALL of the release titles, the price, and whether Microsoft or Sony renege on any features they’ve presented so far.

  • Anonymous says:

    I don’t want either of these pieces of crap. Microsoft and Sony can both eat a dick. Though, I doubt they’ll sell to well anyway; although, I do hope they finally learn their lesson.

  • Anonymous says:

    Wait, so this basically forces you to be connected to the internet when installing a game…. or they rewrite on the disc when you install, since there is no way they can stop this unless these 2 things happen….. lol

    Does this then mean they will force people to have gold accounts to get new games???

    I would say one of the main things that sell games is when people lend them to friends. If the friend loves the game enough, they go buy a copy…. Wouldn’t forcing people to pay a fee again destroy most shops and themselves??? I am not going pay $20 for a game, then another $40 to install it… that is just dumb. And what happens if one of my family members want to play and they have a different account….. does that mean they must pay the fee as well. so instead of $50-60 a game, people will be paying $80+ depending on size of family and such…..

    Microsoft is not thinking correctly it seems. lol

  • Anonymous says:

    FYI: The reason Sony stock surges is not related to Xbox one announcement, but rather Sony’s strategy to fix its finances on the same day of Microsoft’s announcement.

    http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4414927/Sony-s-dilemma–Short-term-gain-vs–long-term-strategy?pageNumber=0

    >In a corporate strategy briefing held Wednesday (May 22) in Tokyo, Chief Executive Kazuo Hirai of Sony Corp. reiterated that restoring Sony’s electronics business is his company’s “top priority,” while the company will further expand entertainment and financial services — two divisions propping up the entire Sony Group today.

    >At a time when Sony’s latest financial results show that the Japanese consumer electronics giant is no longer an electronics company (nearly all of its profit comes from its entertainment and insurance units, while the company’s TV and mobile businesses are dragging down the bottom line), juggling pros and cons of the company’s non-electronics businesses and its unprofitable electronics divisions is no easy task for the CEO.

  • Anonymous says:

    I’m going to continue to laugh at the absurdity of the “console war” and the sense of pride/entitlement a lot of gamers develop from it.

    So long as either one has games I want to play, I’ll get them. No rewards for brand loyalty here. Just give me what I want and I’ll pay you for it.

  • gpturismo says:

    I am not really impressed with either system but with MS focusing so hard on media vs gaming I think if I end up buying either at this current moment it will be PS4.

    I really like both controllers for the new systems, and I really hope they release the XOne controller for PC.

    In the end I might just take the 800-1200 dollars both systems will cost and put that towards upgrades for my pc, a second 27inch monitor, something.

  • It’s nice to see we won’t have to deal with horrendously shitty ports on multiple consoles anymore.

    Looks like it will be more like the comparison between xbox and ps2 with this gen.

  • Anonymous says:

    I wanna use my next gen console to turn on/off the lights in my apartment, and I want to regulate the temperature of my fridge. Please tell me the PS4 and Xbox One will support this =)
    Oh oh oh.. forgot something. How about turning the controller into a cellphone? Wouldn’t that be great? And what about access to your bank account, so you can maybe save your pin on Sonys/MS servers or your HD and then make transactions? DO WANT!

    Yeah… who doesn’t want to have ONE multimedia system to do EVERYTHING? How about turning it into a tablet with Metro… I’m really getting sick of this shit -__-

  • Anonymous says:

    enough about the xbox 1…..how bout an article on a render by an artist on deviantart fooling the chinees media into thinking it was a concept for a japanese attack helicopter??

    ….seriously, google it!

  • Anonymous says:

    For me the real winner in this matter is my good ol’ PS2, which also plays PS1… and my computer with emulators of cartridge consoles with great games pre-2000s, when gaming was about gameplay, fun, great stories+characters, and the difficulty was high enough to replay over and over again.
    And there was no requirement of my mail address, personal data, bank account, any account at all… I played with family/friends on one console/TV, not online, there were neither social crap, nor achievements/trophies, nor DLC to milk each game and add stuff that should’ve been included from the beginning. And also… games back then didn’t have patches to fix bugs, yet they were less buggy than games nowadays (some games even require a patch to be played without fatal crashes lol)…

    ah yeah. What does it matter… the new “social multimedia consoles” have 8 Core CPUs, 8GB RAM, awesome GPUs, you can watch TV with them, or simulate 3D environmental effects… and it costs only 300-500 bucks! You get a lot more for the same price as back with the older generations (though it might lack in the gaming department, and your dashboard might end up cluttered with useless APPS – how I despise that word)

  • Anonymous says:

    So, my old 360 games have to be registered to an account… AND I have to pay for that?

    FYI, my account got hacked once and some fucktard abused it to buy DLC for a retarded Fifa game. Though I got my money back and stuff… it still sucked, and I never used my account info anywhere, I never bought a Gold subscription or played online… so I wasn’t at fault. Security where?
    And they want money from ME so that I can register my BOUGHT copies to an account that might get hacked, because they can’t store user information, add social crap everywhere, and make everything with online requirement?
    In addition, the games aren’t that great anymore, graphics aside… and everything’s expensive!
    My answer is a definite “NO” to all of them: Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo

  • Anonymous says:

    What I really think they should drop on XBOX is their signature colored buttons. HAHA! A little thing maybe, but seriously..when you buy arcade sticks from Hori that are XBOX exclusive, their buttons are colored blue, yellow, green and red, which kinda looks cheap and childish compared to the PS3 version’S elegant plain black design.

  • Anonymous says:

    I can give two shits about the specs. I don’t buy console to enjoy it’s power, I buy games for it. Depending on which side has the largest roster that fits my need, that is the one that I buy.

    • Anonymous says:

      You do realize that saying “I can give two shits” means that you actually care a lot?
      Same deal with people who say “I could care less” and think it means that they don’t care at all.

      At least the rest of your post was legit.

  • Anonymous says:

    By the way, don’t forget Kinetic cannot be turned off. It will always watching and listening to you, even when the Xbox One is switch off.

    Microsoft claim it have privacy protection of some sort, but its so easy to be misused. And now, hacker can stare and took picture when peoples are rolling and bumping ugly’s in front of the TV in their own home.

  • Glad I’m going to get both of them so I won’t have to be in anyone’s camp. I like both of them. Sadly Xbox when the route of “Yay now you can connect with your tv, and EA, and facebook more” Yuck…I guess they forgot what a gaming console was suppose to be. Oh well.

  • Anonymous says:

    It can play used games according to their Q&A:
    “Q: Will Xbox One allow players to trade in, purchase and play pre-owned games?

    A: We are designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games. We’ll have more details to share later.”

    Might not be able to take the games to play on your mates account but you can then log onto your account and play from there probably.
    Cannot see the big difference to games bought via either consoles marketplace as they’re accountbound anyway, they just expanded it to disc games too – and those are anyway slowly going away.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, it isn’t directly backwards compatible, meaning that you cannot just put in a disk and play from the disk – but you can still play Ps1-3 games on it through cloud, after it confirms you have the disk.
      The Xbox One doesn’t even have that. So the PS4 is still better in that regard.

  • Anonymous says:

    I’m interested in seeing if EA decides to make their sports games exclusive to Xbox One.

    By Microsoft having a partnership with EA, who makes the sports games, they can forcibly install a user base on the Xbox One out of all those people who buy EA sports games every year. And the people who can only choose one between XboxOne and PS4, will have to go with XboxOne.

    And we all know that people who buy a Madden/FIFA game every year, is not a small number. Every time I see Madden/FIFA shatter sales records, idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg

  • Anonymous says:

    That’s some evil stuff right there, paying game companies to reduce the graphics of non xbox games, i wonder if they’ve been doing that already. The ps3 does have better specs than the 360, yet some of the games looked junkie when put side by side to 360 games.

  • I suggest do NOT get the X-Box.

    Here’s how you can affect the market:

    1. Look up some providers to the X-Box, especially their “Only on” crowd.
    2. Write a polite, concise letter why you will be skipping this model.
    3. The letter is “Microsoft has patented using a Kinect to monitor people in the house for purposes of limiting the number of people watching Netflix, etc. I do not support that. I will skip this console.”

    Doing that, while Microsoft would laugh it off, a letter from a person forms a legal document a business can use to demand money. Lets say they get a pile of letters, that’s many millions they can turn it into when the lawyers wage legal extortion over it. And after that vomit abortion Windows 8, they deserve it!

    Oh, yeah, Windows 8 that’s another reason to NOT get it.

  • The writer of this has to be the biggest Sony fanboy. They both have a cpu clock 1.6 Ghz. They also both have the same GPU if you are going by rumors.

    And Neither of them support backwards compatibility with their previous generation which is the only one that matters. LMAO, trying to put PS backwards compatibility to avoid writing it.

    So many Sony whores on this sight.

  • Anonymous says:

    hahaha sony fags you forget that the shitty games from EA are coming for ps4, knowing EA sony needs to block used games like xbox if not then Ea is not going to make games for the ps4 like the wii u

  • Anonymous says:

    Yeah, as inferior as the 360 was to the PS3 – on paper. We all know how that ended in reality …

    Having said that, I think that BOTH machines suck major ass. My next console will either be a Sega Saturn or a consolized Neo Geo MVS. I want to play GAMES! I don’t need a console to talk to, watch tv with, exercise, or whatever …

  • So in conclusion I gather, they both basically do the same thing. But heavier marketing of entertainment & social features from xbox to gamers who are social rejects in a culture where the grass is always greener is making Americans turn on American products for Japanese ones that again basically do the same thing boosting Japans economy while most of these American gamers still can’t find work other than the army as millionaire ps4 execs toast their champagne glasses and laugh at the dumb Americans.

    • Anonymous says:

      That’s a deep realization imagined by your mind. what the gamers really want is simplicity at its best. a console which has improved graphics(because we believe our generation can do that.) and offer them plenty of good games to enjoy…And what gamers don’t want is excessively paying for fees. which is why XBOX is unfavorable because it achieves to make an impression of milking your money without clearly showing what kind of games it would offer the gamers.

  • Anonymous says:

    BIG correction…
    “Backwards compatible with previous PS* games”

    nope… you will have to pay for the game trough PSN to play it again, thats sony’s “Backwards compatible” for you…
    just as mutch douchebag as M$…

    if anyone thinks it is going to be possible to trow a PS3 game in the PS4 and just play they are up to a shock
    emulating PS1 or 2 you can do on a cheap ARM based machine, but emulate PS3’s Cell? on an ultra low-voltage laptop cpu? not an even if it snows green bunnys upside down in hell its going to work…

    and the emulator… be prepaired to paid a lot more IF they add it

    • Anonymous says:

      They don’t have to emulate the PS3 architecture in hardware. Since Sony has the original specs and code, they can just re-implement the PS3 execution environment as a compatibility mode in the PS4 hardware. Kind of like how modern amd64 based operating systems run x86 software seamlessly.

      That said, I doubt it’s going to happen. It’s expensive and unprofitable, especially compared to selling all your games back to you again.

        • Anonymous says:

          x86-64 CPUs do in fact emulate x86 CPUs in microcode. The two instruction sets are not binary compatible. You can’t just stick x86 code in the CPU while operating in long mode.

          Regardless, you are arguing against a strawman. “Emulating the system” means virtualization of the hardware, not mangling CPU instructions in software.

    • Anonymous says:

      For the backwards compatibility on PS4 Sony is aiming to deliver PS3 games with cloud computing services. In fact they will make videogames available through cloud streaming technologies of Gaikai, which was buyed by Sony back in 2012.
      So the new PS4 will be backwards compatible, if you have a good internet connection and, of course, if you pay for the game. PS3 games are meant to be played on the old system so, even if it’s disappointing, from a business point of view it’s logical that Sony will require some money if you want a new copy of the game. Let’s just hope that they will require an affordable (better if cheap) price. 🙂
      There is also an interesting possibility: Sony maybe will offer with the PlayStation Plus for PS4 some of the most acclaimed PS3 titles via-Gaikai, together with new games and content. PS Plus is a good hit and many people, especially in Europe, are enjoying this kind of service… probably Sony will deliver some similiar service with the new console, and it’s possible that they will add PS3 games to the lot.

    • They have said that Game would playable on Streaming.. they haven’t said you gonna pay for it again (but still this is the most probable)… it just could be that You put your PS3 game on the PS4 and it recognizes it and then It began to stream it via GAIKAI…

      But as You say, PS4 is not enterely compatible with PS3 games, but there’s a possibility… M4’s Xbox is just NOT! That’s the difference…

  • This just shows how bias some people are. More than 1/2 of the information for both consoles in incorrect; including the backwards compatibility for the PS4. THAT was an UTTER LIE.

    Also just an FYI; they both have the same CPU and very similar GPU’s. (both from AMD) There has not be any “Specifics” on the consoles; IE whether the RAM is DDR5 etc. This just yet again shows how terribly bad the sony vs microsoft news is here.

    I love Japan too; but I don’t choose sides just cause one of the competitors is based there…

    If you guys want real stats please go to the official sites; or just wait a few weeks until E3 as you’ll get a lot more info there than here. (We at least a lot more correct information away)

  • PS4 is not backwards compatible with PS3 games.
    What it has is some BS called gaikai which is nothing more then streaming of PS3 games running on a real PS3 locked away in some server room.
    In theory Microsoft could do this too without any patent infringement as it’s actually a 10+ year old technology also known as VNC,Citrix,or RDP etc in other circles.

  • Both consoles will be a painful fail if they don’t remove this gimmicky bullshit and start focusing on the actual goddamn games.

    I buy a game console for the games. Not the fucking Cloud or to look at my facebook friends and their dipshit wall posts.

    You need to stop with that bullshit and get back on track. Stop trying to appeal to the lowest denominator and put more power and functionality into your consoles. Not gimmicks.

    So tired of this crap…

    • Anonymous says:

      The counter argument is a console without any gimmick (social crap, TV, etc) will lose it uniqueness, and will lack of drive to consumer, especially PC gamer to grab one to try the “new experience”.

      I read this comment that said: Xbox One is similar to PC, so why get a non-upgradeable PC(Xbox One) instead of a real PC..

      I do have solution, though by putting many exclusive game in console, it will put them back in track to compete with PC.

      • Having exclusives doesn’t fix a consoles faults. It just means that a fanbase is attached and it boosts sales. Which sounds great, but it’s merely a bandage and not a fix. We need less bandages and more fixes.

        The older consoles were great because they were innovative and had amazing tech for their times. And that’s true for the upcoming consoles but it’s eclipsed because the developers are going ‘LOL FACEBOOK AND ALWAYS ON SOCIAL SHIT’ simply to grab more sales. But has anyone looked at their gaming console of choice and said “I wish I could tell my friends what I was doing right now”?

        And quite frankly, consoles are unique. Every generation is an improvement to some degree and they are different to their competitors. They have games that are exclusive and some that are shared globally. You don’t need things hamfisted into the systems to make them unique.

        Forgive the ranting but for fucks sake… Let me have my game console and leave out facebook and twitter and whatever the fuck else people are using to tell each other about that cat video on youtube.

        • Anonymous says:

          Well, to be fair those feature is not mandatory, in sense of you can choose to not using the social features and just play the game like you used to play.

          All those social crap is obviously targeted towards casual gamer or gamer that like to share his/her experience with friends and family, not for you I guess.

          More fanbase always a great thing for a console. The probability of many games available on console that selling great, is high.

          Still, if it annoy you that much there are option to turn that shit off, so it will not in any way affect tradition gamer gaming session.

          There are some attractive games from PS4 side, so I gonna to grab one of those.

  • Anonymous says:

    I rarely post here, but there’s some key facts you guys should know. (I’m a console developer). 1) PS4 is _not_ backwards compatible, it will use Gaikai for that, and will work as crappy as playing OnLive. 2) PS4 will likely be much more expensive because it’s Sony.

    • Anonymous says:

      “PS4 will likely be much more expensive because it’s Sony.”

      This statement is a joke. Sony sold Vita at loss, remember, same price as 3DS during launch.

      Sony also sold PS3 at loss, it have Blue-RAY player that was cost $1000 at that time, and PS3 was $600.

      Sony as greedy corporate that sold consoles more than competition or make money from selling overpriced console just a bullshit.

    • Despite the slowish CPU it would be more then fast enough to play PS1 and PS2 games very well.

      How you could make PS2 emulation run fast is break up all the parts into separate threads and each one gets it’s own core to run on.
      It might run much better then single and dual threaded emulators on PCs.

  • Anonymous says:

    I only buy used games cause they’re cheaper and I game more on my computer than my console. Congratulations Microsoft, the budget gamers with any brains have now left your side.

    Well Sony, hi I say ^_^

  • Anonymous says:

    Xbox One has TV support, no backwards capabilities, while both systems are going to be PS3 launch price expensive possibly, and paying for older games again.

    1.Clearly those majoring in the Computer fields are dumb as fuck and no real talent there at all, just selling us the same piece of crap our younger generations would want, with the emptying of their parent’s pockets for some cannon fodder equipment.

    2. WHO THE F**K EVEN WATCHES TV ANYMORE. At least three quarter of the world’s populations (not counting poor countries) has a smartphone or tablet or etc. for streaming shows for free. IMO, TV is pretty much obsolete at this point. Not even 3D can save them from embarrassment.

    3. Video gaming should be boycotted causes their selling us useless crap that might be interested to a family household, but not an individual at all. We’ve seen all this stuff in older generation consoles, now there’s nothing new or inspiring anymore. Every other game in general that came after Sonic ’06 is complete crap. First the decline in recently good anime and now video games. There goes the millions of customers who’s past-time life is to play games.

    4. Well, at least hentai and porn hasn’t let us down yet, with a few exceptions.

  • I don’t want to be forced to also use Kinect. I actually get outside and exercise. When I play a game, I want to sit down and relax and not need to clear 10X10 foot room just to play some stupid ass game.

    Also, what the hell in not being backwards compatible or able to play used games. Boycot this heap of a system.

  • Anonymous says:

    This site is so transparent. Japanese product good, American product bad. Period. Who cares what the truth is, who cares if the product isn’t even out yet? Its from the USA so it must be bad.

    Pathetic.

    • The truth is both products are crap but the no used game thing makes the Xbox one a little crappier.

      As for ram that remains to be seen the Xbox could actually be faster in practice if the video chip has it’s own dedicated ram despite the lower specs.

      Then there’s the 3d APIs and game engines which can matter more then the hardware.

  • Anonymous says:

    Xbox One has TV support and no backwards compatibility while you possibly have to pay for older games to play on both systems and have to pay like $500+ for each…….

    WHO THE F**K EVEN WATCHES TV ANYMORE??
    I’m pretty sure everyone in the world has a tablet, smartphone, etc for streaming shows on the internet anyway, other than those poorer countries. And do you really expect people to pay that kind of money for this. It’s like those dumb people who payed $600-700+ for the PS3 when it came out, only to be blind sided with the slimmer PS3 for like $300. And I’m pretty sure one of the 2 systems will have a flaw in it like the 360’s RROD. Clearly the people majoring in computers these days have no new ideas and no sense. Halo, Cod, FF or any other old and new franchises can’t save them from embarrassment. First the decline in recently good anime, and now games? Don’t take away the one thing three quarters of the world like to spend their lifetime doing in their spare time other than porn or hentai.

  • I was seriously impressed by the Xbox One’s most innovative new feature, ‘Snap Mode’…

    …in 1985 when it was called ‘Switcher’ and Andy Hertzfeld introduced it to the original Macintosh.

    Heyoooo! (☞゚∀゚)☞

    But seriously, folks! Haha, yeah… Sony’s stock started going up as soon as the Xbox presser started looking utterly farcical. (i.e. when it started.) But what really did it, obviously, was the revelation that it’ll be using a bluray drive.

    Anyone else notice that the thing is just a big fuck-ugly brick, like the outer design of the NES? A design realized in like five hours to meet a deadline, by two guys who hadn’t slept in three days or something. I wonder how much time and money MS spent on that…

    When the competition are the only ones getting good press from your big new product reveal… It’s time to fucking quit.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Shitty Sonic titles and neglecting everything else”

        Sega gives fans the following:
        Total War games
        Binary Domain
        Yakuza series
        Phantasy Star Online 2
        etc…

        Good recent Sonic titles:
        Colors
        Generations
        Sonic 4 Ep 2 (arguably)
        much awaited Sonic Adventure 2 port

        And you still complain. What else do you people want? This “Whatever Sega releases is shit, why can’t they be gud like in the 90’s” mindset needs to go.

      • Anonymous says:

        …except SEGA does not make Sonic games. Sonic Team does, SEGA is merely the publisher and, at times, the ones who somewhat guide developing.

        Wow, your concept of game developing is way off reality.

      • Anonymous says:

        Specs don’t mean all people make it out to be. The PS3 is more powerful than the 360 yet many games look worse on it. Architecture plays a key role. For all we know, the XB1 could be capable of similar graphics etc. as the “more powerful” PS4.

        • Anonymous says:

          Duh… just give me back great games with 2D pixel sprites and I’m fine. ~_~
          Who needs 8 Core CPUs or 5.1/7.1 Sound? I don’t care how awesome and realistic a game looks, I want something great to play! NOT the newest title of a milked franchise (be it all the sports games, CoD/Battlefield/Halo/Valve shooter, Milking Gear Solid, Assassin’s Milk, Milkout, The Elder Milk, Need for Milk, Final Milking, or other crap)…
          Before I get bashed for badmouthing their favorite type of milk and not understanding the greatness of modern games and AWESUM graphics… yes, I prefer oldschool gaming (including up to PS2), no I don’t care about your opinion and I’ve played enough modern games to know what I’m talking about.

        • Dirty_Dingus008 says:

          xbox buyers now have a greater reason over the buyers of the ps~ the brick is now inside the system! now they don’t have to worry about the brick catching on fire ever again! Just the entire system~~~

        • Anonymous says:

          You are comparing games that are cross platform ??? Obviously corners are going to be cut if you have 2 different ways (note: note easier/harder, different) you choose one way of doing it then when you have to do it the other, it will suffer. Uncharted series and Last of Us are probably the best looking games on either console, yes bf3 and LA noire look like shit in comparison regardless of platform. Maybe i am just a naughty dog fanboy, i still remember playing their crash bandicoot series, mostly CTR epic racing game i knew every little dip on every map to get a jump boost, good times.

        • Anonymous says:

          While specs might now mean everything, in the console war anyways, you do know that sony dropped the cell architecture for the ps4 right? Meaning that its about 10 times easier to develop on now.

          Granted not like I care since I’m sticking with my pc this generation.

        • Anonymous says:

          Uhhh The Cell processor destroys the Xenon in the 360 in every possible.

          It goes as such:

          PS3:
          Better CPU
          Poorer GPU and split memory.
          5.1,7.1 LPCM Audio support

          360:
          Better GPU
          Weaker CPU
          No uncompressed audio support

        • Anonymous says:

          This does happen a lot when a game is developed initially for one console and then ported to another. Say what you will about Microsoft but one thing they get right is there support for their developers. They made it easier to make games on their system.

        • Anonymous says:

          I wonder how many games he/she’s counting in their head were the many lazily ported to the other console games. [And don’t even bother asking me the details because I’m not gonna look back and figure out how many cases there were of that.]

        • Anonymous says:

          “The PS3 is more powerful than the 360 yet many games look worse on it. ”
          “yet many games look worse on it. ”
          “many games look worse on it”
          “games look worse on”

          HA HAA HAAA

          You must be Halo fan or something, for sprouting such bold nonsense.
          But I forgive You, here in PS3 camp, we’re thinking something similar about 360. Except we don’t even assume it’s more powerful than ‘our’ console. You know, just to be total assholes with superiority complex.

        • Anonymous says:

          uh, dont get whats so funny. ill give 2 big examples. LA Noire and Battlefield 3 both played and looked better on the 360 over PS3. dont be such a stupid fanboy and actually look at the facts.

    • Anonymous says:

      it already exists is called a “Wii” you just hack it install the homebrew channel, slap a hdd trough usb whit ALL n64, snes, nes games in it, (less than 16 gigs so you can even use a pendrive) and play them trough emulators on the hb channel, i know it work cause i built myself one just like that, also it plays all Gamecube games trough discs (or if you used the hdd instead of the pendrive you can install them there along whit any wii games you like and never have to put a disc in anymore, i have a 500gig hdd whit all n64, snes, an nes games, about 50 gc games and nearly a hundred wii games, is the BEST thing you can own to make your kids dissapear for hours)

      and dont give me the “emulators are crap” line, these work PERFECT whit 99% of the games and i mean PERFECT

    • Anonymous says:

      Not funny, it was on purpose. Microsoft postponed Xbox One reveal for almost a month so they can show their console after Sony show PS4.

      Probably to avoid showing off things that would be clearly inferior to PS4.
      This is likely why Xbox One reveal was such failure. They didn’t have nothing to show, so they sticked mostly to new controller, kinect and TV feature, nobody cared for.

    • Anonymous says:

      You’d have to be nuts to deny that the Xbox reveal affected things. It’s not shown here, but if you check the actual charts, the stock soared roughly ten minutes into the xbox presentation. The spike was significant and violent; the internal changes may have aided that (or even tactically been placed as such) but the reveal is definitely related.

    • jamesownsall says:

      Funny indeed.

      Sony just keeps posting latest shit on PS4 RIGHT AROUND THE TIME OF ONE REVEAL. Obviously they intended to kill Microsoft’s buzz and steal their thunder.

      I’m not sold on Sony yet though. The way I see it, they’re both playing catch to see who sucks the publishers’ dick and fucks consumers’ ass more so that one of them can appear a lesser evil and pro-consumer.

  • Anonymous says:

    Artefact showing his personal bias again. Gotta love the fan boy wars. If he actually wrote “personally” or “in my opinion” it would be fine. But pretending to do the whole impartial reporting thing and then turning out articles like these last few is just sad.

    ( And before anyone accuses me of being butthurt for xbox or something…

    >PC master race for the win. Can all suck on my 4.0GHz. Hurrr. ^_^ )

    • Anonymous says:

      7 months ago? What took you so long? I switched to PC during the PS1/N64 era and never looked back. Consoles are completely outdated hardware wise, sometimes being 5 years behind the PC on release.

      • Anonymous says:

        There are a slew of great titles released only on consoles. Being able to emulate is indeed a perk for PC, but even still. Many more modern console emulators are unable to emulate many games to the fullest. Also, PC emulation can be a chore at times, as many programs are not always user friendly. Consoles are user friendly, and as such, have not died out yet.

        • Anonymous says:

          If you’re talking price, 500 bucks can get you a decent gaming rig which can play the latest games at settings slightly above what you get in consoles. Not MAXIMUM, but still better than consoles.

          Throw in modding possibilities along with being able to do just whatever the hell one can do with PC, and that is the amount of value consoles can only dream of.

        • Anonymous says:

          Exclusive games, dude. Sony have a lot of hot exclusive games and JRPG.

          Infamous, Uncharted, Killzone, Metal Gear Solid(console exclusive), Dragon Dogma, Final Fantasy(used to be good, hope Versus 13 is good), Demon Souls, Tales Series, Journey, The ICO & Shadow of the Colossus Collection, Heavy Rain, BlazBlue, Resistance, Ratchet & Clank, Valkyria Chronicles, Persona, Tekken, Child of Eden, Yakuza, El Shaddai, Naruto game, to name a few.

          If all this ‘make me drooling’ game is on PC, I’d be glad to buy a GTX Titan and ditch console all day long. But that ain’t gonna to happen, so I will buy PS4 in future.

        • Anonymous says:

          Low cost to play games? Though most ps3 and xbox games can be played on a typical store bought computer now. Not much of a price difference now. And besides. Theres always pirating to be had.

      • Anonymous says:

        I’ve been multi-platform (including PC’s and consoles) since the early ’90s. All sides have their pros and cons, including price points which could easily fall into either category.

        Except Apple. Apple sucks.

        • Anonymous says:

          Your Bias is showing. MS, Linux, and Apple all work fine. They’re all equally a pain in the ass to fix when sh*t goes wrong and all have their disadvantages. But if anyone has so many problems doing what they want with any of them, then they need to stop touching a computer; They’re too stupid for one. I use all three and rarely have any issues with any of them.

  • Anonymous says:

    I see the difference in clock speed is nice for the PS4, but the RAM comparison doesn’t mean anything… yet. They’re comparing the PS4’s unified VRAM (both system RAM and video RAM) to the Xbox’s sytem RAM. The Xbox’s actual video memory is unspecified (as far as I can tell). You might as well start comparing your hard drive speed to your monitor’s refresh rate.

    Also, raw numbers are not enough to go on when it comes to hardware comparisons. Different architecture can be faster at lower frequencies. We need to actually compare graphics and frame-rates.

    That said, I’m about as unbiased as I can be (I’m a PC gamer who won’t be purchasing either console). The only way they’d be able to grab my interest is if some seriously good JRPGs get released (like Radiata Stories 2, or something. God that would rock).

      • Anonymous says:

        You don’t know what you are talking about. Unified memory works poorly on IBM based hardware because the GPU is so far from the main memory. If the GPU and CPU are put closer, then memory bus latency drops, which means less idling while waiting for memory operations to complete.

        Unified RAM can make rendering much faster, if latency is resolved.

    • Anonymous says:

      “They’re comparing the PS4’s unified VRAM (both system RAM and video RAM) to the Xbox’s sytem RAM. The Xbox’s actual video memory is unspecified (as far as I can tell). You might as well start comparing your hard drive speed to your monitor’s refresh rate.”

      Better analogy might be comparing SSDs to HDDs. One is generaly better than the other, but still has its own (unique) issues to deal with.

      GDDR5 has bandwidth, but latency can be a problem. Shitty for lots of small xfers, but will probably work well for large xfers (which, in normal intended usage, would be textures, for example.) GDDR is also pretty expensive.

      Standard DDR, DDR3 perhaps, is cheaper, not as high bandwidth, but has relatively better latency. That, and everyone knows how to deal with it.

      I think I read somewhere what using GDDR5 as unififed RAM would entail. Might’ve been on Ars Technica…

      The XBox One might wind up cheaper in the end (depending on other hardware, of course). 8GB of GDDR5 is A LOT. The most I’ve seen is 6GB on dual-GPU video cards. Single GPUs cap at 3GB last I recall.

  • Anonymous says:

    One system comes with some shitty kinect and DRM’d as fuck.
    The other one doesn’t.
    It’s obvious which the best system is.

    The answer is PC, it is always PC.
    But PS4 might be the less inferior of the two next gen consoles.

  • I thought it seemed pretty cool until I read about the whole having to pay a fee to play used games bit.

    I don’t even really buy all that many used games, but that’s a deal breaker just on principal for me. There’s no reason for me to have to pay money when my friend wants to let me barrow a game they already played. Doing something like that is like telling me that I don’t actually own the item I paid for.

    I might as well just become a full on PC gamer if that’s going to be the case. It feels the same way whenever I buy a game off steam, but at least then I can usually get it at a heavily discounted price.

  • Anonymous says:

    AMD is producing both CPU/GPU for both PS4 and XboxOne. So the chances of both having the same hardware structure is really likely. Also the clock speeds of both is just speculation is not even confirmed….

  • Microsoft is just being a dick now. Fuck i’m not buying this console. Can’t play used games? Are you fucking with me?! Backwards Compatibility was never an issue with either the new xbox or ps4, since neither support it.

    • Anonymous says:

      PS4 is supposed to have backwards support for PSX I think… Like PS3 did. And didn’t they say you could get PS3 titles through the cloud or something? Sounds unreliable but better than nothin…

  • Anonymous says:

    I find it funny, people are already saying it sucks when they know full well it’s going to be the system that sells the most.

    Sony will sell well in Japan

    Xbox will sell well everywhere else.

    Nintendo will sell….well they’ll sell something to someone.

    • Anonymous says:

      Remember people, PS3 launched with the promise on backward compatability.

      As we welcome the PS4, how many PS2 titles actually run on the PS3? Assuming of course we don’t homrbrew them?

      Sony promised the moon, and never bothered to deliver. I’m not confident in their ability to do so for this.

      • Anonymous says:

        actually I own the original PS3 that launched and it still plays ALL, my PS2 games, the only thing that pisses me off is they took away the ability to make it a linux based system…the first two iterations of PS3 were 100% backwards compatible with ps2 and mostly backwards compatible with ps1 game. But then they brought out “Cheaper versions” which had software emulator, then they took out backwards compatibility all together. So They didn’t go back on their promise, as it was Backwards compatible at launch…they just withdrew their promise, later on.

        • Anonymous says:

          That’s why I stopped buying Sony consoles/handhelds: they release too many revised consoles!
          The PS1 had like 2 different models and some minor altered versions, the PS2 was similar (big models with some smaller changes, and the Slim)… PS3 also had the big original and Slim, but there were many revised versions with important changes concerning the hardware. The PSP was the same. I bought the original, soon after they released the Slim and then another model… and always changing stuff, adding some and removing others…
          As a consumer I don’t want to buy every new model they release. I want to buy it once and be happy; if there is a better version several years later, when my old one begins to deteriorate, I’ll consider a Slim… but I’m not interested in watching the market to see when a new model gets released, which features each one has and which is superior… at the same time looking out for price drops and such -_-

        • Anonymous says:

          Your still forgetting that they withdrew their promise of Backwards compatibility to make the console cheaper; too many people whining that they want it cheaper and slimmer. It’s like people buying an Economic/Budget Car and expect it to be a V8 Muscle Car or a Ferrari/Lamborghini.

    • No, that information is incorrect, The PS4 is not backwards compatible in physical sense, you can’t place your PS1, PS2 or even PS3 discs inside it (well you can, but it doesn’t work), they did say that they would be looking into the PS1 and PS2 classics support, but that the PS3 games are made in a different way and they simply cannot make the games work on the console since the insides from hardware to operating system are so different that they wont be able to work on it.
      I think i did read somewhere that they would look into the PS3 as digital media in the future but at this moment they have no plans for it.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah, between the emotion engine and cell processor, Sony’s had some weird hardware to work with for backwards compatibility.

        Hell, it’s pretty impressive that they managed to make the PS3 emulate PS2 titles. PS2 emulation on PC can get goofy at times, let alone getting it to work on the cell processor and generally pretty garbage specs.

        • Anonymous says:

          @Anon 18:57: people already hated that they couldn’t play all of their old games on the PS3, yet the system sold plenty. And there are more than enough people who bought old games via PSN. It will be the same with the PS4 :/
          Either you keep your old hardware for older games, buy the same stuff for the new console or forsake those games…

        • Anonymous says:

          Why be pissed. Odds are when you have to buy your old ps1 and 2 games they won’t cost very much (ps store for example). Additionally remember when everyone bitched about the PS3’s price? That was because they were trying to do too much. This way they can keep their price in line with the Xbox and for the people who want to can buy their older games w/o effecting the people who don’t.

        • Anonymous says:

          Then Sony is going to lose sales, Anonymous 17:56.

          People do NOT like being told that they have to keep on buying the SAME EXACT SHIT that they already bought OVER AND OVER AND OVER!

          It’s a one-time buy world and these game makers had better damned fucking frigging well learn to live in it.

          Because, soon, we are going to MAKE them by mandating that after 10 years? All games drop out of copyright.

        • Anonymous says:

          The point still stands that you can’t play whatever PS1 games you already own.

          PS4 won’t read PS1 discs, and Sony has clarified that your current purchases on PSN won’t carry over for PS4.

    • Anonymous says:

      The more appropriate to say that it looks like a large cd / dvd of a car!
      I hated this kind of input over time accumulates dirt on rubber traction and just scratching the DVD.
      It seems that the fashion of the 4 generation consoles will be black and square.
      When you think that the design progresses with time, everyone ends up with face game CUBE
      Well .. do not play with the appearance but the hardware inside, sadly designers could work a little harder

  • I hope so much that this generation kills consoles for good; they’re already being douchebags about secondhand sales, so you might as well spend that money getting yourself a gaming PC and not buy into this crap.

    • Anonymous says:

      PS4 say hi. It do not block second hand game(not confirmed, though)..

      Still, if the problem is secondhand sales, PC ain’t any better.. The secondhand games trade on PC is nearly non-existence.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, I rather have a GTX Titan than aN outdated hardware consoles.

      BUT.

      Console (PS3 exclusive and multiplatform, non PC games) have:

      Demon Souls
      Dragon Dogma
      Monster Hunter

      God Of War
      Heavy Rain
      Infamous
      Journey
      Killzone
      Metal Gear Solid
      Ratchet and Clank
      Resistance
      Twisted Metal
      Uncharted

      Asura’s Wrath
      Atelier Ayesha
      Bayonetta
      Castlevania
      Catherine
      Child of Eden
      Disgaea
      El Shaddai
      Eternal Sonata
      Final Fantasy
      Ninja Gaiden
      Ni no Kuni
      Persona
      Tales Series
      Tekken
      The ICO & Shadow of the Colossus HD
      Valkyrie Chronicle
      Yakuza
      Zone of the Enders

      IdolMaster
      Miku games
      Anime games

      Nintendo have Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Xenoblade, The Last Story, Pokemon(Stadium, Snap,etc).

      If all this games is on PC, I am glad to toss out my PS3 and Wii to grab a GTX Titan..

      But the reality is different, so I grabbed PS3 and Wii instead, and planning to get the next gen of that two consoles.

      Most PC games are on consoles, while the opposite is not quite true. So I go down the path of consoles.