Atlus Doomed as “Insolvent” Index Posts Huge Loss
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Apr 16, 2013 21:32 JST
- Tags: Announcements, Atlus, Business, Madhouse, Persona, RPG, Shin Megami Tensei
Index Corporation – the social gaming company which owns Atlus – has just posted its worse losses ever and is now both insolvent and in danger of being delisted from JASDAQ, throwing the future of the Megami Tensei and Persona franchises into grave doubt.
Index’s latest financial statements include a 1.67 billion yen loss on sales of only 15.6 billion yen, all downwardly revised (in 2012 it projected a 1.3 billion yen profit) and significantly worse than the previous year.
In August, the company did announce profits of 400 million yen – but this was after posting losses in the last 6 consecutive quarters, the group apparently being operated on novel financial principles which do not include making more money than it spends.
Its financial performance is succinctly illustrated by its stock price, now at pre-bankruptcy rock-bottom drop-it-before-the-liquidators-arrive levels, making even Square Enix look like a hot “buy” recommendation:
Unsurprisingly, it is now insolvent, and it is not likely to be long before its toxic shares are delisted completely.
The company’s main response to its dire financial straits has been to announce such promising cost-cutting measures as off-shoring more of its workforce and “reorganising” those who remain, along with an incredible narrowing of corporate focus to “consumer & social games, contents and solutions.”
Index’s main business appears to be randomly acquiring IT and “contents” companies, as the company boasts an eclectic hodgepodge of generally obscure subsidiaries ranging from mobile gaming and apps to publishing and software licensing.
However, unless they have been using their line of translation software for dogs, the only enterprises it is involved with which anyone is likely to have to have heard of or care about are Atlus, folded into its games division as a brand in 2010, anime studio Madhouse, of which it owns 10% in combination with Nippon TV’s 85% stake, and most inexplicably of all, 5% of toy manufacturer Takara Tomy.
Atlus itself shows some disturbing parallels to Square Enix, with much of its output devoted to social gaming, including such classics as “Persona 4 – The Card Battle” and “Devil Survivor 2 – The Extra World,” and endless rehashing of an increasingly moribund main franchise, in this case the Megami Tensei series, still yet to see any full scale RPG on a current generation console despite scores of ports and remakes.
Atlus fans are aghast at what is left of their beloved studio facing oblivion, IP-stripping resale or – worst of all – continued exploitation as a social game studio:
“Index-chan…”
“What the hell are they doing?”
“Can they not recover with new releases!?”
“Atlus is already done for, who cares about them now.”
“Namco, you buy Megaten now!”
“Nintendo should buy it.”
“Bandai is the best fit.”
“Nobody is going to buy Index, but Atlus might have a chance at being bought by Nintendo or someone.”
“Persona…”
“P4G wasn’t bad though.”
“Everyone has been saying they are doomed since last year.”
“In short they are still making money on games but all their other divisions are worthless?”
“A rare case of the game business doing well whilst all the other divisions drag them down.”
“Didn’t they start off as some pachinko company or something? They can still sell it off and Atlus will live on.”
“Atlus is already dissolved. Only the Atlus name is still being used for branding purposes. They have to wait for someone to buy what is left of the Index group.”
“This is what happens when game companies get dragged into the world of pachinko.”
“They can just buy the game IP, I would think.”
“Surely they can survive this?”
“Atlus actually showed some big losses from 93-09, especially in their pachinko and arcade enterprises.”
“Basically they got burned every time they tried something outside the consumer game market. What a waste.”
“And they used to be the darling of JASDAQ…”
“Goodbye Atlus.”










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Hey Atlus, Let's survive.
I love Atlus and MANY of their games.
But the writing on the wall has been there I suppose..
Rehashing their games, and refusing to put the effort into titles that would have made them a lot of money like SMT 4 on the PS3 with new and next gen models for the demons like they originally announced..
Just don't understand what the hell is going on with them anymore..
Damn it Atlus make a PC Multiplayer version of Armored Core please!
When did Atlus ever do Armored Core? That was From Software's at one point.
did somebody say
MENE MENE TEKEL UPARSHIN?
Index Survivor.
if they DO survive by being brought or merge, i hope it doesn't turn out like square-enix....
Atlus-Enix
. .SEGA!!!!!!!!!!! i dunno. why
A Certain Bankrupt Social Gaming Company!
there have been a lot of those lately. youre gonna have to be more specific
A Certain Index Corporation – the social gaming company which owns Atlus...
Genius! 10/10. Would watch.
To Aru DAME Geemu Kaisha no Index...
I'm not jap and I'm rofl
Non-Jap sank dwellers wouldn't have the brain to understand that idiot!
Make it a little obvious, but not too obvious so that they can make sarcastic commments and look like they have brains!
No Magic can fix this....
Oh and they need to stop making Social Games.
Who the hell PLAYS that shit? Concentrate on the stuff people care about.
People care about.. Eroge, RPG's and fighting games where girls with big breast rip off each other's clothing?
i'll buy that
Yes!
Fruits Punch Samurai has a point.
Fruits Punch Samurai VS Fruit Ninja
Oh, the irony.
Zura's right.
Not Zura, Katsura.
Maybe Kat-tan?
Your mom plays social games.
PS: so does your sister. And your dad. And everyone else you know. They just don't pay $60 up front for half-finished, half-assed bullshit and then keep sucking the publisher's dick for DLC. They pay-to-play, pennies at a time because they have lives and you don't.
U MAD BRO?
They don't play the social games made by these big developers that would otherwise be making real console and handheld games.
All this social crap, will be the downfall of just about every has-been great company.
...You really have no idea what you're talking about.
What the hell are they doing!? I throw my god damn money at them when ever they pop out a serious title and this kind of shit happens!? What are those executives doing with the fucking money!!!!???
as you can read, the problem is not atlus, but the failure of other divisions under Index.
Seriously why the fuck doesn't atlus just separate from it's parent company?
You are entirely clueless about how companies work apparently.
Two words: "hookers" and "blow."
Money well spent
Please don't merge with Nintendo...I want my games to be in Vita not 3DS.
...I rather have Atlus merge with Nintendo than having Atlus disappear entirely because of bankruptcy..
3DS.. I can save some money to get the system and the 3DS Atlus game, while if Atlus gone I cannot get the game no matter what I do..
Atlus already releases more for the 3DS than the Vita. Given how well the Vita's selling, I wouldn't expect that to change.
Release P5, make money.
Index-tan </3
this just shows that you can't make a living out of remakes (since most people will have played the original/another remake of it before, no point rebuying it) and mobile/social games with ridiculously high priced micro-transactions... you'd make much more if you priced them correctly.
So FPS games in North America are an aversion to this.
It's an easy company to save :
1-. DoDonpachi for Android & iOS
2-. Persona V
3-. New Trauma Center for WiiU
4-. New Super Robot Wars (available in USA and EU)
5-. Dragon's Crown
6-. Disgaea D2
7-. (lucky number for the japanese) More localizations outside of Japan : Acquire, From Software games, etc
SRW isn't made by Atlus. It's made Banpresto.
Catherine oversold Demon's Soul, publishing third-party games not so good idea.
DISGAEA is from Nippon Ichi Software. ATLUS just did the western localization on some of the titles.
Ever heard of distribution and editing fees, guys?
You can actually make money of a third party project, I just noted some examples of succesful things they have already done. Read point 7 once again...
Oh look this site trying to post real news only to make it look worst then it really is hahaha yep.
Etrian Odyssey no more? But there's a new one announced for summer this year. :3
That's what happens when you entirely rely on remakes and casual games that are flavor of the month concepts at best.