Aku no Hana “A Crime Against Manga”


The universally loathed character designs inflicted upon Aku no Hana in its anime adaptation are proving incendiary amongst fans of the original, a well regarded adolescent romance manga formerly known for its elegant art.

The show is described by ZEXCS as “the first ever fully rotoscoped Japanese TV anime,” the producers perhaps having missed the reason no other TV anime had been produced in this format before:























The original was known for both cute and sexy character designs:







The fate of this poor manga has inspired a wave of horrified comparisons:












Why an otherwise promising title has been consigned to guaranteed commercial oblivion with what has charitably been described as an “experimental” style has been the subject of massive speculation – some even speculating that the whole thing is a ploy to generate notoriety for the show.

Other anime of the season have been held up as counter-examples:





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  • Bu . ..bu . .. but this is 100% more accurate <=o
    Japanese people actually look like this though, I don't get why they're making such a big deal about it. Did they think they look like fucking sexy goddess and gods or something? Jeez, it's like they make a fuss when they see their own ugly mugs in the mirror.

  • Yeah, see, Japan, this is why we stopped rotoscoping YEARS ago. It’s hardly experimental if someone else has tried it and decided it produced shitty looking animation. That’s just called being late to the party.




  • Maybe this could be called gekiga style.

    This maybe called an American cartoon made by Japan. Maybe more American than a American would made since fully rotoscoped and with max fidelity with reality as possible.
    And certainly this is how 90% of oversea wished to anime and cartoon be: hight fidedignity with reality, “drawing a photo with a hand.”

    But certainly this is the deny of what manga build until today. This includes the before moeblob era too. Yeah, Jojo and Ghost in the Shell included.

    Only thing what I want to say is “Thanks god they didn’t this with Gargantia and Magestic Prince!”

    There are moe-blob? No problem, the only blobs what I hate is Yuri-blob and BL-blob.(Because I think heterosexual male felling sexual feeling to lesbian is disrespect to the lesbians. Yeah, they don’t exist since anime character but still…)

    Sometimes I think who aim for photo realism is just plagiarism against God.

  • Anonymous says:


    Moefags are always up in arms about something, and they got shit taste anyway so who cares? This looks great, looking forward to it

  • yuriphoria says:

    If japan switched to this kind of animation it might help the self esteem of japanese people and lessen the burden of comparing to 2D beauties.

    And I’d be back to watching anime solely for the plot.

  • Anonymous says:

    Oh cmon! That slide with fugly face is out of context. Look how are you talking in the mirror, this is full of such moments. Otherwise art is just OK, but it would be nice if they make notice at first episode in a way like “Art in this animation is different from original source manga”. Thats all.

  • Anonymous says:

    wow? Why they even bother? The rotoscoping will take them way more hours than an anime and be way more expensive. The art is outstanding , but man just looks generically bland in the tv show shots.

  • Anonymous says:

    If you think the characters in the anime are ugly, better don’t take a look at the mirror.

    Personally I like this anime style. Even better than the manga. Yes, the manga might by pretty, but is kind of standard. At least the anime art is original, and that is something that I appreciate. Not to speak that I am able to look beyond ‘the surface’.

    But I guess that when you are double the age the protagonists of these mangas your preferences kind of change.

  • I won’t be surprised if:

    1) Koreans pick up Aku no Hana to make a live action drama in the near future.
    Korean adaptation = mass commercial success of the franchise in the whole East Asia.

    2) Cartoon Network’s Adult Swim salvages the rotorscoped anime version of Aku no Hana.
    It may be a dud in Japan… but some semblance of recognition in North America will make it a commercial success.

    • Anonymous says:

      Somehow americans might enjoy it, because they won’t be offended at the fact that they look like IRL asians. Hell they’d brand it as ”photorealistic” anime and I’d buy it.
      The bone structure is there, they’re real asians. This will lead many otaku to purchase and burn every copy in disgust, though.

  • Anonymous says:

    It’s bad but the creepy/”realistic” faces works. Aku no Hana really should have been a live action drama. The setting, the tone, and the narrative don’t particularly stand out for an anime format. Even with its dark and weird themes, I don’t think it works as an anime. Personally they should gone with the original designs but the generic/realisitic uncanny valley actually works with the mundane source material.

  • Anonymous says:

    GODDAMN. the uglier characters (which no one gives a flying fuck about) became passable, while all the hottest characters became lard-faced. why does nakamura have a rugby player’s neck and an accountant’s dead eyes?

    lets get anonymous to start a boycott of anything related to this anime, to preserve the dignity of the manga.

  • Anonymous says:

    Well the premise was a good idea, but the animation pretty much wanted me to delete the thing after 5 minutes, that and the OP/ED songs don’t help this either.

    Also, for some reason I feel like this series may end up being used for Scenery Porn and that’s about it.

  • Anonymous says:

    Whoever is responsible for the anime should be drug out into the middle of the street and shot. Then put into stocks overnight without guards (which means constant, all-night rape, really…). Then stabbed. Then electrocuted. Then run over. Then hung. Then drug behind a car. Then trampled. Then crucified. Then drawn. Then quartered. Then burned on the crucifix. Then (while still alive after all this) beheaded by having their head secured while the rest of the body/bodies is/are tied to four separate catapults facing the cardinal compass points and released simultaneously. Then stake the head/s in front of the animation house responsible for this travesty so ALL will know.

  • Anonymous says:

    Rotoscoping faces doesn’t work very well because of the subtle details used to convey emotion. The reason cartoon characters often have exaggerated facial features is to compensate for the lack of finer details that would be far to time consuming to animate for a TV series.

    The camparison image showing photographs of real women is great because it clearly shows what is needed for believable human faces. Noses in particular are defined mostly by shadow, and without that, you get the ultra flat appearance that makes the characters look so strange.

    • Anonymous says:

      I have to admit, it’s true. It’s better if you watch her in motion, haven’t seen her in the manga and don’t compare the two, but all of the other characters turned out looking better than her, even the guys, and they even look closer to the manga versions than she does.

  • Anonymous says:

    I actually think this style works.

    Did anybody here even watch the complete episode?
    You all make it sound as if you only watched for bout 2 minutes and then went to sankaku to rage about it.

    I think the style they use works better then using the same old cutey anime-girls all over again.

    Yes, it IS creepy…yes, uncanny-valley strikes…. but it works. The anime gives me the creeps…and thats what I wanted to experience when this was announced.

    Looking forward to more of this show.

  • Anonymous says:

    Style is basically our personalized expression of reality, perceived through our senses and filtered through our culture, preferences, ideals, etc.

    This animation lacks all of that. It’s literally a regurgitation of recorded imagery. The most I can feel from it is laziness, and maybe even contempt for art in general.

  • Anonymous says:

    The characters in the manga were so “ugly” as in “totally horrible people”… I’m glad they made them look like shit in the anime. Its an accurate representation of their worth as humans. Particularly glasses girl… loves to call people “shit” when she herself is a scumbag.

  • Anonymous says:

    Imagine if I traced live action like this and turned it in for a college animation project. I don’t think the lecturers would be very pleased.

    F for style. F for effort. F for innovation.

  • Anonymous says:

    For some reason i think the derp faces anime styles suits the manga better than the original author’s art style. But it’s the first time where good quality animation, turns to shit due to how good it is.

  • Anonymous says:

    I saw someone complaining about anime eyes taking up half their face, but can’t find the comment.

    I wanted to ask them if they’ve ever seen The Simpsons, any Disney or Pixar animations, or Bugs Bunny.

    • Anonymous says:

      None of their eyes can compare to the likes of those in Air or Kanon, or even most cutesy anime.. they take it to an extreme level. Plus, those cartoons and animations don’t give all of their characters big eyes, or even most of them… and it’s also used more often with animals not people. The Simpsons have large eyes, but they’re very simplistic and are used for reasons other than attraction, such as comedic expression (which can also be said for large eyes in most comedic cartoons).

  • Anonymous says:

    It was a bit hard to digest at first, but that’s only because it’s totally different from everything we see these days. After some looking over it more, and opening my mind up, I can say that this is great.

    Of course all of you moefags and fan service tards here at Sank are going to have a hard time digesting it. That’s great. It’s a testament to what he’s pulling off here. I just feel sorry for him because his sales are likely going to be bad. People aren’t ready for this. They might never be.

  • Anonymous says:

    I’ve never read the manga. I actually try not to watch the anime when I’ve read the manga version because A)I already know the story, why would I? B) Changes to the story and art are bound to bother me.

    I watched this episode after the giant commotion. I liked it. Honestly, aside from that one screenshot of that girl that everyone keeps posting, it’s not that bad. Even that is something they could correct with later episodes when she becomes a more prominent character (I’m guessing based on the images)

    In any case, I’m committed to giving it a second episode.

    • Anonymous says:

      In a lot of cases, I prefer to read manga over watching anime simply because anime pacing tends to be either too slow or skips too much. I like to digest information at my own pace.

      If you’re interested in something for its story, or just short on time, it’s generally a safer bet to go for non-animated versions.

      • Anonymous says:

        Manga also usually have way superior art, there’s just no way to properly make mangas like Berserk or Blade of the Immortal justice as animations, you just can’t animate that kind of artwork.

  • Anonymous says:

    It doesn’t look good, but the art is nowhere near the trainwreck people are making it. Rotoscoping this story is actually a decent idea, the style would play well with the realism and inherent ugliness that is the theme of it.

    The problem is that it looks like the studio learned rotoscoping by taking a time machine 40 years into the past and contacting ralph bakshi. If they had gotten the cleaner look of ‘waking life’ and ‘through a scanner darkly’, we would all excitedly be discussing how awesome it looks instead.

    There should be some hope for future episodes because they could fairly easily take a further pass at cleaning/enhancing footage. We’ll see, still plan on watching it all.

    btw I was more pissed at the slow pacing. The manga doesn’t have much action but flys by at crazy bitch speed.

    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t remember Bakshi’s rotoscoping looking so flat.

      Then again, it was done in a time when digital coloring didn’t exist, so perhaps it just inherently didn’t look flat because it was hand colored.

      Doesn’t really explain the lack of any outlines that aren’t thick blacks, though.

  • Anonymous says:

    I never read the manga, but from the screens it seems too much is lost on the adaptation.
    But to be completely honest, I kinda like the idea of experimenting like this. It certainly got my attention, though I don’t really know how this will work for the story itself.
    And if in the end the technique doesn’t fit the story, I’ll just go read the manga… all in all, it’s becoming increasingly rare for producers to try experimenting with artstyle, so I won’t complain.
    Not that I think that rotoscoping will ever become a style out of the “experimental” classification, but it’s just fun to see something different at times.
    Oh, but they could’ve done better reggarding actors/actresses selection, it seems.
    Doesn’t it look kinda like the AV cast version?

  • Anonymous says:

    Why must people judge an anime on three basically worthless factors? An adaptation isn’t supposed to be the same as the original, and people whine just as much when they try to match it too closely anyway. It’s lose-lose, so just stick to your perfect manga version and stop whining already.

    And if all you are about is how mainstream the art style is and how much in-between animation there is, then realize that we wouldn’t even have the modern styles without people experimenting like this.

    Have any of you kids even looked at anime from the past? It would still look like Harlock today if everyone was so stuck up they couldn’t appreciate a different art style, and you little shits sound like all the whiners saying K-on’s style was too pudgy and round back in the day.

    Just fucking grow up already. The only crime here is that you’re so stuck up your own asses that you can’t even give a “new” art style a chance, even if the mangaka is rumored to have wanted them to rotoscope it anyway.

  • Anonymous says:

    I’m all for experienting, finding new better ways to build the wheel and it hurts to see this kind of shit.
    Rotoscoping has potential but the way that thing ended looking is well fucking hideous.
    Why didn’t anyone say something? Why didn’t they stop it?
    Now everyone will hate rotoscoping thanks to those shit designs. They went full rotoscoping retard.

  • Anonymous says:

    Other than the glasses girl it really doesn’t look that bad. I mean, that poor glasses girl is probably the most awful thing I’ve ever seen, but besides that I kinda like how the other characters look. How they managed to fuck her up so bad though I cannot even begin to comprehend.

  • Anonymous says:

    As far as attempted realism, this isn’t the first nor the last as far as character designs are concerned. They look like an attempt to imitate the art of like Satoshi Kon stuff (albeit with less finesse). Problem is, with the hype concerning the art from the manga this was probably the wrong title to experiment on. I can appreciate like Pic 8 for instance, but the departure from the manga is significant.

    On the other hand…looks like I should check out the manga.

  • Anonymous says:

    Even before seeing the manga pictures, I thought the characters designs were awful in this. Definitely looks like they were tracing real people, which always looked fake to me whenever I’ve seen it.

    If you want to do a live action show, do it. If you want to animate a show, animate it. Rotoscoping always seemed lazy to me.

    The story seems interesting, so I’ll watch one more episode, but unless it really grabs me, I’ll be dropping it.

    Maybe they’ll switch to traditional designs for the next epsiode and were just using the ugly first one to create buzz… not. 😛

  • Anonymous says:

    Rotoscoping is a good technique. Certainly way better than cell-shaded CGI. Not the technique’s fault that this turned out looking like shit. They just utterly failed applying it to anime style.

    There have been anime where rotoscoping has been used to great effect without sacrificing any of the stylistic peculiarities of manga like shading and moe-ness of the character art, the most recent example that immediately comes to mind being Macross Frontier.

    I wish they had used rotoscoping in Love Live! instead during those sequences that used CGI, but alas, it’s much more expensive to do right in the context of anime.

      • Anonymous says:

        Rotoscoping and cell shading are not mutually exclusive. The characters are traced onto cells (or their digital counterpart) after all. If the animators make the effort to meticulously re-draw the head, clothing folds and manually re-shade everything according to the character designer’s style, it will look a lot better than CGI (see OP’s Love Live! example). But yeah, animating everything by hand will always look best.

    • Anonymous says:

      Forgot to mention though that of course it should never be used all the time in anime. You want it for high-motion high-fps sequences like dancing or fighting, but everywhere else it will either look out-of-place or, when extra care is taken not to break the art style, won’t yield any results that would be worth the hassle.

    • Anonymous says:

      Or they didn’t want to apply it to an anime style, and everyone’s just trying to rationalize their distaste for it because “it don’t look like what I’m used to, so it can’t be anime”.

      • Anonymous says:

        I rationalize my distaste for it with it looking ugly as fuck. If I want avant-garde art I go to an exhibition or watch some arthouse shit.

        A defining trait of anime style is that it’s never employing the aesthetics of ugliness for anything other than humor or actually trying to induce disgust.

        This is only anime in the sense that it’s animated and based on a manga.

        I wouldn’t be so sure that they were intending for it to explicitly fall outside of anime style anyway, just look at how the hair is drawn in some of these shots.

  • Anonymous says:

    I got it! The producers are trying to pull of an ingenious scheme that will make them filthy rich by intentionally making an anime they are absolutely sure will flop! And it’s working! It all makes sense!

  • Anonymous says:

    Instant down-rate or not, I’ll be honest:

    Contemporary anime feels like pretty shadows dancing on a cave wall. It’s gotten so detached from actual human emotions I can barely spot a connection.

    With this rotoscopy stuff, the shadows get decidedly less pretty, but… I actually recognize their emotions — to the point that even boring, semi-ugly characters feel very expressive.

    I hated the plot, but I felt like I was there. I hope we see more of this.

  • Anonymous says:

    Artistic freedom is all well and good but an adaptation from a very clear-cut source should really be faithful.

    I’m not saying the art direction is bad per se, but it just doesn’t do the original justice.

  • This strikes me as something that may have been a good idea if it was an original creation rather than based on something that could have been used to judge it.

    An unfortunate mis-step. I will probably watch it first, then read it.

  • i don’t see the problem here. there are enough animes with traditional art styles out there. it is important to try new things. and to me the characters don’t look particularly ugly, it’s just another stile. i consider it an interesting experiment. without things like that, which you might consider failures, improvements would be prevented.

  • Anonymous says:

    Rotoscope animation can work if done right. I mean it’s animation, you don’t have to copy every detail. You copy the body movements and make the face more cartoon like. Look at all the Don Bluth movies, they were all rotoscoped! He just animated the faces!

    The expressions on all the anime characters are just ugly. No effort at all was put into this and it shows.

  • Anonymous says:

    its not so much the fact it looks bad, as it looks absolutely nothing like its source material.other than clothing and hair color, they’d have done better to just make a live action version of it than this. i will say that most of them do look like they’re high or something though

  • Anonymous says:

    I’m generally not a negative person, but i have to say that this attempt to realism really went wrong (even if these examples shown are the worst picked out moments)

    It’s not easy doing realism right, and this shows it…

  • If there was no manga sauce I would actually quite like the style in how different and unique it looks. From the first episode this seems to have a nice dark and somewhat creepy feel to it and I felt the animation pulled that off nicely.
    But as it stand this is based off a manga and the anime really should be based off it to full extent, If you’re going to do something do it properly, as they say.

  • Anonymous says:

    This show has the shittiest rotoscope technique I’ve seen in ages.
    It is not that the japanese look strange like some anons have been saying, it is just that they pretty much erased all facial features, they look like they got their noses punched into their faces or something.

    2D is perfect and clean, dirty 3D is not, you can’t just try to draw 2D on top of 3D and expect it to look good.

  • Judging from the article only (haven’t seen the anime yet), if they cast a better girl for the girl with glasses, overall it would be a much pleasing anime. Right now it is way too manly.

  • This is fucking horrible. It’s like watching a loved on be raped right in front of you. Glad I decided against watching the premier using the logic of “They’ll probably ruin it, just stick to the manga”

  • Anonymous says:

    If this is how anime is going to be from now on then to hell with it. C’mon…, seriously I’m hear to see anime! Not real people behind the scenes getting rotoscoped. (Even if that is animated!) If they wanted to do a live-action why didn’t they! WE WANT OUR ANIME! Why didn’t they stick with the original. But in a few people gonna start accepting this. If I wanna see a real girl I’ll just go stare at my sister. Seriously we aren’t that sad of a fuck.

  • Anonymous says:

    Isn’t this something that insurance/investors companies used in their commercial in order to connected with the ‘hip’ youth but it only made them look like douchebags in the end?

  • Anonymous says:

    I actually thought they used rotoscoping because perhaps the orignal material had an unique semi-realism looks or something. Then I went and checked out the original manga, and all I can ask is, WHY!?

  • Anonymous says:

    Apparently this was an artistic statement made to spit in the faces of otaku and lolicon. I heard something about the authors saying, “I want to kill the fans” or something.

    This may be seen as something of a postmodernist statement.

  • It looks like they used real people for this and then animated it when i watched this i literally screamed “What the fuck is this shit!?” clicked “close tab” (because google chrome is the shit) and went onto the next anime. :/

  • Oh yeah, this is going to work well, I can just imagine how the conversation went.

    Producer: So, we have this romance drama manga we want to adept into an anime, but we want to make sure its different from the rest of the shows coming out that season.

    Director: I know, lets use an experimental animation technique that will result in the female lead looking hideous and the overall quality of the animation looking like something China would turn out.

    Producer: Brilliant!

    • Anonymous says:

      I actually wouldn’t doubt if they outsourced the entire animation process to some low-cost animation house in China, or another country. They likely put most of the budget into filming the initial footage, and skimped on the rotoscoping part. It doesn’t exactly require exceptionally skilled animators to trace existing film frames, after all.

      On another topic, are we sure the female lead is actually female? >_>

    • Anonymous says:

      I thought at least weird, as already will comment should have been released in live action!

      It can work very well in animated shorts (which some might consider art in animation festival), but in a series?
      When I saw the difference between manga & final product.
      I’m thinking maybe this anime is just to fill the station’s grade programming.

      Compared to the manga was equal to games, that the trailer shows a very cool CG animation swearing be in game (dead island)
      And everyone ends up disappointed.
      Or the author is a follower of Hideaki Anno (eva)
      who claimed not to care about what the audience wants but forcing you to like what he is doing .. (in my case the series evangelion got interesting with the exception of the final clap … clap the cast of drama ended?)

    • In an interview
      The Director Nagahama (Mushishi) actually declined to direct this at first, saying “Why does it need an adaptation”.

      I don’t know whose idea to use Rotoscoping, but the author actually agrees and says that he’s expecting a strong reaction.

      • Anonymous says:

        1. The director refuses to direct it because it isn’t worth making.
        2. Someone forces the director to direct it.
        3. Director deliberately chooses to use a shitty method to create the imagery, to teach them a lesson.
        4. Fans rage. ←今ここ
        5. Director gets fired, starts up his own studio.

        • Anonymous says:

          I think the director meant the work is good on it’s own and is hard to top if being adapted to other forms.

          trolls on the bandwagon jumping on the hate train…

          I find personally find the rotoscoping a little lack luster. 1 of the things I would like to see is at least increase the frame rate so it doesn’t look so choppy. I understand it’s a stylistic choice, but i think it got to the point where it’s destroying some of the acting.
          Another thing they could’ve done is maybe find better outlines to draw on the faces.
          Nakamura’s actor probably doesn’t look bad IRL, but the way it’s rotoscope killed a lot of her feature, and even her acting, giving u that dumb looking face that is used as comparison.

    • Anonymous says:

      My guess is they are paid off by the japanese government to actually make the anime adaption as close to reality as possible in order to “curb the unhealthy attraction to 2d”. Those creepy bastards probably handpicked the story too. Looking at the way them 2d lolicons squirm, i’d say those geezers missed a knock out punch and landed a hit squarely on the fans’ collective crotch and got disqualified.

      • Anonymous says:

        >i’d say those geezers missed a knock out punch and landed a hit squarely on the fans’ collective crotch

        Normally you have to pay an expensive “delivery health” fee to a highly specialized service provider to get punched in the crotch.

      • Anonymous says:

        even trying to make it as close to reality as possible failed horribly

        i’ve seen cute japanese girls that look like the manga version

        the anime version is a buttfaced design with no romantic value

        • 13:13 No. If you take out the shading you also have to apply some stylization to the faces. Just tracing everything exactly where it is while simultaneously abstracting other aspects is pretty much the definition of uncanny valley. Suppose I shade it photorealistically, what do you think would happen? Exactly, it’d look like a detailed realistic pencil drawing; uncanny valley effect completely gone.

          Your argument about the schoolgirls made no sense whatsoever, and right now I can’t be bother to try reading the correct interpretation into it.

        • 03:58 uncanny valley, look it up. And then take a look at some of the 2D vs 3D comparison galleries here.

          He is entirely right because these designs completely lack shading (which here is actually resulting in distorted proportions for some character postures due to lack of sense of depth), and are therefore farther removed from reality in terms of human perception than any stylized manga art ever could.

          Seriously, learn something about how humans perceive visually instead of running your mouth here and you’ll see why 10/10-grade beautiful Asians can indeed look very close to highly accomplished manga art.

        • Anonymous says:

          huh? you seriously think average japanese school girls look like 10/10 model level asian girls? this is fairly close to average looks level of real schools. you guys really should take sometime to brave the radiation to visit. see the school girls for yourselves. as for uncanny valley, the reasoning doesn’t make sense. that is because the fact it completely lacking depth perception actually reduces the uncanny valley effect, not increase it. reason being, your mind catches it as gigantic differential between reality and animation, and processes it as such. try shading some of the frame captures, you’ll hate it even more 😀

        • Anonymous says:

          It’s a bit rich to hear you say that they’re butt-ugly when they’re much closer to the reality, especially when you try so desperately to claim that asians look more like classic manga drawings do.

          No, oOn second thought, it’s a bit disturbing. Please stop.

      • Clearly I know more than anon. The characters look like shit, they lack basic shading let alone proper detail. The faces “pop in” as a character gets closer to the camera like graphics in some old video game. This anime literally looks like they just used the previz animation in place of proper character animation. And that doesn’t even touch on the fact that they made the lead female in a shonen romance story look ugly as fuck.

        • Anonymous says:

          that’s exactly what they did, and it’s the basic kind of rotoscoping.

          honestly just bad production choices leading to budget cuts in the wrong place.

          it’s not rotoscoping is bad or never works, they just didn’t do it right.

        • Anonymous says:

          As an animator, the animation looks very generic to me. It’s like they recorded live footage, cut its frame rate from 25 to ~6 and then literally traced over those frames. Nothing more, nothing less.

          This approach has no style. It’s unappealing, simplistic and dull.

  • Anonymous says:

    hate me if you will but i am one of those people where i judge the anime by the art (sometimes though). and in this case Aku no hana is one of those animes. from the 24 minutes i waste on watching this new type of 3d anime shit, i rather use that time to read the original
    my opinion though 😐

    • Anonymous says:

      If this was an original animation, I bet it would have garnished at least some positive reviews.

      However, since it is supposed to be an adaptation from a manga, it is clearly a failure in that aspect.

      Also, looking at the great character designs from the original manga, you have to wonder whose bright idea it was to use rotoscoping… if it was a ploy to save animation costs, it clearly shows… and why retain the standard background if you are going with rotoscoped characters? It is really distracting to watch.

        • rotoscopeing is a very expensive process, at least it use to be, im not exactly sure now though…

          anime though… what they have a 50-200k an episode budget? that is so not the budget you need for proper rotoscopeing, and it shows in this.

        • Anonymous says:

          Don’t know about choices made by the producers, nor of the creator. But one would also note that the anime states clearly that this will be a 13 eps series only in the Title Card. Something I’ve never seen before and therefore leads me to believe that the story will diverge far away from the original to create a complete story which in itself is great. The rotoscoping technique is bold, but is a far FAR a better experiment in showing a story than spamming NINE worthless eps to tell a TWO eps story!
          Looking at you haruhi producer who raped so many episodes to be artsy. The choices made by kyotard these days are confusing and sad now. Sooo many artists wasted daily on sappy crap that isn’t even the moe bread ‘n butter of that company.

        • Anonymous says:

          Rotoscoping can be great when it makes sense to use it. Look at the 1983 film Fire and Ice, for instance. They were able to combine the realistic motions of live actors with a fantasy setting that would have required a huge budget to pull off well in live action. They took the best of both worlds, and the result was visually impressive. In this anime’s case though, I see no benefit to using rotoscoping. It’s a standard real-world setting, so they might as well have just left it live action rather than going through the process of rotoscoping it. I suspect the idea was to attract anime fans who might not otherwise be interested in live action, but since it’s based on a manga, it’s bound to draw unfavorable comparisons with its source material.

        • Anonymous says:

          The mangaka didn’t suggest rotoscope, but he did agree with the producers choices in using it. Him and Producer both decided that the anime deserved a different tone. When the idea was first pitched for the adaption, the producer said it would be better as a Live drama. I’m glad he gave it more consideration. This look like it can be something real special. I got the feeling like Triangle Staff has to be a part of production house after watching though. This is so much like their style, regardless of rotoscoping select scenes being their niches when they were around.

      • Anonymous says:

        No, it’s not. Adaptations can be whatever they want to be, and mangaka often request them to take directions that aren’t the same as the manga.

        It’s all down to how shallow you are about such things. SAO and Shin Sekai Yori were still hugely successful despite all the nay-sayers.

        If you wish to be bothered by this, then you’re free to be bothered by it. You don’t have to seek validation for not liking it.

        Do PA Work’s backgrounds bother you the same way? Probably not, because you’re too busy saying “aw, they look like KyoAni character designs!” Don’t kid yourself.

      • Anonymous says:

        I agree that reading the manga is a great alternative to the time here but why not just do both. I enjoyed watching the 24 minutes and the music made up for the “rotoscoping” technique.

    • Anonymous says:

      OP is a fucking idiot. This is in the least bit a new style. It just hasn’t been used commonly in TV animation. Rotoscoping against 2D background has been around for decades. Canada actually has a lot of notable short films in this style. That france film, Triplets of Belleville, one of the most respected animations of the 2000s used this process. The film is gorgeous in and out.

      It was very insightful that they choice to go this route with this anime. I for one am very impressed how much the change of direction influenced the mood of the show. This doesn’t look like the manga, sure. It doesn’t invoke the feeling that the manga does exactly either.

      But is does feel eerily real. I think the accomplished what they were going for.

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t think people are oblivious to the origins of Rotoscoping. Here in America especially, we are quite familiar with it thanks to people like Don Bluth and Walt Disney who used it a lot. But just because it has been used in a lot of famous movies (The Sword in the Stone, The Jungle Book, 101 Dalmatians, The Rescuers, All Dogs Go To Heaven, Anastasia, Titan AE, Atlantis, Treasure Planet, etc), that doesn’t mean everyone will agree it is good. I personally thought the style looked strange even back in the 80s when I first saw it as a child. And I still think it looks strange today. Just like I think the overly animated 120 FPS CGI films Pixar/Dreamworks pumps out look unnatural.

        And none of this has to do with the real issue that is making most people mad. The fact that the character designs and overall look of the anime is nothing like the manga. If the manga author really wanted the art to be changed like this, that would be one thing. If not, then its just yet one of a thousand different examples of a production group changing things for the sake of change. And it bit them in the butt.

    • Anonymous says:

      Rare for me to say but the art IS beyond exceptional it makes me focus a lot its not generic damn things all rotoscoped
      Makes you focus less on the characters The Realism is surreal if not the decor dated
      That said I would like the original art more
      Reading through the comments looks like this is something else
      Well I will watch it as it goes down this weird path
      That ending song was also something

    • Anonymous says:

      I actually kind of like the way it looks, but I don’t like how they deviated from the source material. I know anime adaptations sometimes “update” designs when the style of the source is old or difficult to animate, but this is completely unnecessary. I wouldn’t mind watching an original anime in this style. (Though I also believe rotoscoping is an outdated practice and shouldn’t be the “standard” way to animate things.)

      • Anonymous says:

        Like? It’s 110% uncanny valley which is why no one does that. They should have just made it live action if they wanted it that lifelike.
        BTW, this is still better than what was done to Fractal,here at least they managed to keep the hair colours and vague resemblance to original cast whereas in fractal you could troll unsuspecting people by making them pair up original and anime char designs.

        • Anonymous says:

          03:55, you’re the one not being fair here. The uncanny valley is a well-researched phenomenon. It’s not subject to subjective perception, unless something in your brain is wired wrong.

          We are rightfully criticising that they could have avoided the uncanny valley by using rotoscopy in an adequate way or avoiding it entirely. Fans of the manga are rightfully upset that the work they like, among other things, for its beautiful and sexy art has been uncanny-valley’d.

        • Anonymous says:

          Rotoscoping can be extremely useful for animators but it’s kind of awful to use it on EVERYthing and dear god you never want to rotoscope FACES unless you’re trying to make some surreal nightmare-fuel.

        • Anonymous says:

          lol, show of hands for who actually has seen the show animated? It looks bad in stills when compared next to the manga but if you ACTUALLY WATCH IT and not try to compare it to anything else then it looks fine.

        • Anonymous says:

          Rotoscoping is fine. You people are just trying to rationalize your distaste for it, which is also fine. What’s not fine it pretending you know better when you clearly don’t. Please learn the difference between subjectivity and objectivity.

  • Anonymous says:

    OMG it doesn’t look exactly the same as the manga, it doesnt look exactly the same as every other fucking anime, what a crime against humanity!

    Seriously, would any of you really have given a shit about yet another clone of every other highschool anime ever? There’s like a fucking million! And they all have the same style. Why the hell would anyone be so upset about taking one of those and trying something different with it?

  • Anonymous says:

    My fucking eyes…! ARGHHH! Now I’m freaking thinking about that damn Trace Memory game for the NDS. I wanna reset my freaking brain!

    Now that I said that, Trace Memory did use rotoscoping too. I think. OTL

  • Anonymous says:

    seriously, anime and manga should be different, otherwise why watch it?

    the way Akunohana was made didn’t point to be a romantic flood-with-cute-girl-and-drive-out-hentai adaptation but something more reflective on society and human behavior. Though they way they combine horror and parody was a bit extreme…

  • There is enough moe material out there for all of us. This is something different and should be treated as such.

    I don’t know how the story turns out but i like it so far. It looks interesting, although rotoscoping can be done better than this.

    I’m done. You can continue hating it.

  • Anonymous says:

    I was shocked with the pictures but after seeing the episode im willing to believe that they can pull this trough. The director conveyed really well the sense of lifelessness trough the pacing and the photography, and the rotoscoping gived it this unreal and alienating feeling. Yeah the close-ups looked dumb and didn’t look as dramatic as they were supposed to, it didn’t matter much tough because the episode was mostly focused on the oppressive atmosphere rather than the characters. Still worrying since i really don’t think they can keep this style for many episodes and at one point the characters will be the ones to carry the show and express their feeling directly. Also the use of the music is incredible (that awesome and creepy ending!). It’s fine if you hate it tough, this show clearly isn’t trying to please.

    tl;dr: It’s good and daring, you just don’t get Baudelaire you fucking shit eaters!

    • Anonymous says:

      The ending is already a thorn in my side, because the general concept is something I’ve been waiting for quite a time, but the actual music is numbingly expectation-lowering. Almost as if they were hinting there is no anime or similar inspirations in the depicted world.

      • Anonymous says:

        Have you actually watched it? I just did and I quite liked it; like a breath of fresh air. And look at your avatar, that just looks terrible and cliché. The whole anime industry is saturated with this cheap garbage.

        I welcome some difference for once, while all you faggots do is jerk off in your basement.

  • Anonymous says:

    You know what real problem is Japanese people cannot stand the truth about their look so they hide themselves in fantasy world with perfect people aka. Anime, but when someone makes Anime with people looking like real people their small world begin to crumble.

    • Anonymous says:

      Also, Asian people aren’t ugly people. A lot of them are but a lot of them are alsosuper gorgeous.

      These? These things don’t even look like proper people. They’re all wrong…

    • Anonymous says:

      That’s why they call it “fiction”. Just the same why USA movies don’t usually show 60% of the cast being unhealthily obese, even children.
      If the original work had “a stunningly beautiful girl” you pick “a stunningly beautiful girl” as a model, not a “normal to ugly girl”. Not even “a boy cute enough to look like a girl”, since in that instance body language would change.
      Doing THAT is realism. Fictional realism, but realism after all.

    • Anonymous says:

      You know what real problem is humans cannot stand the truth about their look so they hide themselves in fantasy world with perfect people aka. popular media, but when someone makes media with people looking like real people their small world begin to crumble

      • Anonymous says:

        Not really. Humans are just fine with the way they look. I’d be just fine if this were live action, but trying to draw completely realistic humans without having all of the things that take them out of the uncanny valley (lighting, movement, etc) just makes this anime look reeeally ugly.

        Plus, people wanted an anime that LOOKS like the manga, you can’t just do this as a surprise.

        Not that I’ve ever heard of this manga or anime, but I can totally understand why people are upset.

  • Anonymous says:

    Finally japanese anime star doing something new, but of course, everybody wants the classic shitty generic character designs. No wonder why I cant watch a show these days without quiting in the second episode since is goddamn awful.

  • Anonymous says:

    (a.6): It’s not exactly the same as the manga! BAN IT FROM THE ANIMES!!!
    (<_<): But maybe there's a reason to actually watch it since it dares to be different?
    (a.6): NO! The character designs should stay the same, and every panel from the manga should be faithfully reproduced in exact sequence!!! Manga is obviously a paint-by-numbers handbook for making anime! HOW DARE THEY NOT FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS!

  • Anonymous says:

    So like those moetards say!

    Let me feel your rage. Your tears sustain me an that crap. How does it feel? You had it coming!!!

    I liked this unique style, lets see how the plot goes.

  • Anonymous says:

    These kind of stupid reactions are the reasons why anime keeps falling its own shamefull and pathetic abyss of crapyness.

    Anime studios just can’t get away from the long decaying moe blob, these is a poor attempt, but a brave one, and I applaude these guys for trying. 15 years ago the anime message to the world arrives in the form af cool, full action adult and risque productions like Vampire Hunter D: BloodLust, Cowboy bebop, Ninja Scroll, Macross Plus, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Lain, Orphen, Scaflowne, Gantz… Now.. what the hell happened now?! Kiddies in underwear, flying around dressed like some pedo fetishistic fantasy, I can’t even describe this crap because it is just so bland and basic. Basically over more of a decade of CRAP anime based on moe/loli sailor bullshit!

    Then I see this horrendous attempt to run out fo that moe/loli nightmare and I say: YES! PLEASE! Just GIVE ANYTHING BUT MOE/LOLI SHIT! I’ll take it!

    ANIME IS DEAD. But I see this, and I realize that there are still people in the industry willing to take risks and to brought back what anime used to be: an artistic expression wich flooded the whole world with the force of its originality, quality, diversity and cleverness. I stoped talking about anime since the 2000’s, it’s embarrasing, it’s a fucking shame. That’s what it is.

    This new series is a turn in the right direction, it will posibly fail, but atleast it’s the first step to return to the right path for a decaying industry.

    • Anonymous says:

      There are a lot of other fairly “realistic” looking anime out there: Tokyo Godfathers, Akira, anything put out by Studio Ghibli, even Jigoku Shoujo and Death Note were pretty realistic, but it never looked as horrid as this. Even strange looking anime like Windy Tales were considered pretty good despite its unorthodox style. Why? Because they worked. Regardless of how one feels about moe, this was simply a REALLY bad way to do this. Its ugly, that’s what it is.

    • Anonymous says:

      So all those great classic animes you rattled off… did any of them look like THIS? No, every one of them was still visually appealing despite using a different style. And a modern show like Madoka could even deliver an amazing experience while embracing the trend towards cuteness. Risk or not, this is just a horrible style choice.

    • Anonymous says:

      Since I agree with everything you say, I feel like… if society is leaving the moetards behind, how fitting would it be if anime left it’s moetards behind? Seriously, the only thing that can save anime is for them to reach a new audience; why cater to a dying breed? Literally, most of them won’t reproduce.

    • Anonymous says:

      WELL SAID SIR!!!

      We are already trying to retake the correct path. Moetards will inevitably be history this decade, they will either be nauseated themselves or old enough that they cannot longer fe moetard out of oure shame

  • Anonymous says:

    Oh look, they tried to do something original rather than do what every other anime does and cater to the moe crowd?

    The only problem I see is that they didn’t stay faithful to the original work that they were adapting. They could have used the style for an original anime. But maybe the realistic style is an improvement for a manga like that.

    • Anonymous says:

      We’re angry because its stupid. This show will never sell–the fact that this even got off the drawing board flies over many people’s heads. We can’t help but say, “what the fuck were they thinking?”.

    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t get it.
      So in order for the style “not to be moe”, you have to completely scrap every kind of stylization that makes up what we know to be “Manga” and go back to rotoscoped academic drawings of human figures?

  • Anonymous says:

    I don’t mind the changes. In fact, it’s a breather from generic moe designs we’ve been getting plenty of these past years.

    If you don’t care for the anime designs, read the manga instead. If you don’t care for the manga either, the writer and production staff could worry less about your opinion.