60% of Japanese Men “Like Girls Young as Possible”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Apr 5, 2013 19:40 JST
- Tags: Dating, Enjo Kousai, Lolicon, Marriage, Relationships, Statistics
The latest findings about the romantic interests of the Japanese to be inspiring interest are the not entirely surprising statistics that 60% of Japanese men are interested in females of any age, as long as it is as young as possible.
15,000 Japanese men were quizzed as to how young a girl they would consider valid targets for romance:
Up to 1 year younger: 0.8％
Up to 3 years: 2.6％
Up to 5 years: 9.5％
Up to 10 years: 16.2％
Up to 15 years: 8.6％
Don’t care how young!: ：59.4％
Out of the question!：3.0％
Whilst most of the reasons older Japanese men might prefer dating young ladies are obvious, surveys have also regularly demonstrated the stringent standards Japanese women tend to apply to the incomes of their prospective husbands – and with only older men capable of attaining these high levels of financial and professional attainment, it is perhaps as well they are flexible.
As for women, 16,000 were asked how young they would go – and most were clearly not nearly as keen on younger partners as their male counterparts were:
Up to 1 year younger: 4.2％
Up to 3 years: 15.1％
Up to 5 years: 26.1％
Up to 10 years: 15.1％
Up to 15 years: 2.8％
Don’t care how young!: ：20.5％
Out of the question!：16.2％
As usual these findings have been widely discussed amongst circles not known for their aversion to young girls themselves:
“Damn all you lolicon!”
“Policeman, over here!”
“Who is surprised by these findings?”
“How is this news?”
“As long as they are not second-hand!”
“So in other words, all men are lolicon.”
“Us Japs are all hentai lolicon. A real creepy set.”
“All my friends married older women… one is 10 years older.”
“Agnes is coming.”
“I’m 30, so up to 22 years younger is my limit.”
“Non-virgins are just sluts!”
“So 60% of Japanese men really are lolicon?”
“I don’t think I could manage an elementary schooler.”
“Young ladies like older guys, older guys like young ladies, it’s love on both sides!”
“You guys are really intent on turning this into a discussion of your fantasies, aren’t you?”
“It’s a bit weird that 100 years ago adults were marrying 15-year-olds and now this is treated as child predation.”
“Well, back then it would have been someone who waited until after 20 who was abnormal.”
“It hardly matters what age guys they asked. It’s 18-29 women for all of them, no doubt.”
“What about all the older hags who like younger guys? In fact, don’t younger guys become appealing if you get older?”
“They used to get married at 12, and still do in places. Aside from the social taboos we have now it is really not all that abnormal that men like young girls, it’s only natural.”
“The problem is with the queston – they should have included an explicit age range or it is meaningless.”
“Women are like balls!
14 = rugby balls, with 30 guys chasing them.
18 = footballs, with 22 guys after them.
24 = hockey pucks, with 8 guys looking to hit on them.
35 = ping pong balls, with 2 guys batting them towards each other.
48 = golf balls, with 1 guy slowly strolling after them.
60 = dodge balls, with everyone trying to get out of their way.
88 = bowling balls, everyone is quietly trying to roll them down the alley.”“Any age is fine – as long as they’re 2D!”
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I myself prefer younger girls. At least they have less experience in milking men for their money.
“Women are like balls!
14 = rugby balls, with 30 guys chasing them.
18 = footballs, with 22 guys after them.
24 = hockey pucks, with 8 guys looking to hit on them.
35 = ping pong balls, with 2 guys batting them towards each other.
48 = golf balls, with 1 guy slowly strolling after them.
60 = dodge balls, with everyone trying to get out of their way.
88 = bowling balls, everyone is quietly trying to roll them down the alley.”
Man this post made me laugh so hard!!!
Going by how they included goalkeepers in the football case, the hockey scenario calls for some heavy penalty killing.
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
DODGEBALL<
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! nande?
But, it is also true. Especially for those Japanese.
Did this person invent this themselves? It's brilliant!
uh, nao I gotta ask - hao hard are you nao?
Same here! This 2ch post is friggin' genius! XD
Laugh? Why? Is just the TRUE!
I usually wait until they're around early middle school age. That way, they become better prospects for my job.
Single digit.
Nicchi-sempai?
No wonder...
More than three years younger than me starts to make me uncomfortable... Simply because she'd be younger than my 'little sister', and in my mind that's all kinds of nope. :S
Interesting, my sister just so happens to be 18 years younger than me - does this mean that first graders are OK?
First graders: Always OK
Same here. I have a sister 6 years younger. If I dated a woman 6 or more years younger than me, that'd feel so wrong.
Yet I recall many celebrities marrying women as young as or younger than their daughters. ...Woody Allen especially disgusts me.
Depends on your own age too. When I was in elementary school, no one would hang out with someone a grade below them. In high school, over half my friends were a grade below. In my 20s, I'd go out with a girl a year or two younger. In my 30s, I'd go out with a girl in her mid 20s.
I heard a magic formula for it ages ago and it seems to work well:
Her age >= (Your age / 2) + 7
It doesn't make sense until you're an adolescent, but after that, it seems pretty sensible.
Don't worry. As you get older you will understand that this 3 years will expand quite a lot.
And just imagine how it would be without the social taboo.
Not everyone like (very) young girls, but i believe that deep inside it's the case for most people, even if they deny it.
Uhm, no. You're "belief" is wrong.
If you mean teenagers, yes, because we all used to be teens and, most likely, felt attracted to the opposite gender at such age and, therefore, that feeling still lingers no matter how old we are, not to mention that, male or female, a teenager CAN look attractive and have a rough definition of "love".
Now, if you mean actual children and/or toddlers...... you may want to save some money for a psychologist, my friend. Remember: lolicon is fine, but pedophilia is not.
Being a lolicon or pedophile, its the same thing.
You'll get downvoted, but it's true. The difference is a Western idea - in Japan, lolicon is a guy who likes underage girls... period.
Ah, well, I forgot to make the distinction... By "lolicon", I meant the western definotion of the word. I forgot that, in Japan, the word actually applies for pedophiles as well... But yes, I meant the "foreign" meaning of drawn underage girls only.
It has nothing to do with having being teenagers, it has everything to do with being male. Male sexual drive is directed towards youth. No matter how old you get you will want to have sex with a young girl. Females get unattractive as they get older very quickly for us.
Speak for yourself. I'm far more turned on by the idea of experience over innocence, and I don't see experience when I look at someone who looks like a baby or something cute that I would rather pet on the head. When I found out my girlfriend, who's older than me, already had sex a few years ago, it made her even hotter in my eyes.
"I'm far more turned on by the idea of experience over innocence"
You are sick man, but fear not, sooner or later you will wake up from your illusion with a ugly hag on your side. Unfortunately, by this point, she will have rights over half of everything you worked for and a pension from you for life.
@09:19 - hhahaha, she has a higher paying job than I do! :P
12-35 don't rly care.. if hot/cute or got money..
The article has a mis-leading title. It makes it sound as if they're all hanging out at the schools to pick up girls. But, when you read the poll results, they're really interested in girls who are younger, but not extremely so, than themselves.
That's why I love Japan. I wish the west would be more like this.
This works out perfectly. Old men get their ideal love interest and young girls get huge wads of cash.
It's because they all have penis size worries. They want someone with the smallest, tightest vag around who isn't going to be worried about their 3-4 inch nub haha.
There might be some indirect truth to this, because the most noticeable size change affecting penises would be in the form of erection (I counted priapism as the rarer option when deciding on the default here). Younger ladies, being, other things being equal, the more attractive, are more likely to give them one to, as you put it, assuage their worries, if that's what the game ever was about.
On the other hand, looking at character popularity polls from The Land of Blossoming Cherry, somehow the precocious early teens consistently lose out to their older versions. Say, Nagi Sanzenin vs Tennousu Athene/Maria/Hinagiku.
And 40% are liars.
That goes for me as well and I thought that goes for everyone. Who would want to date some old lady?
I honestly don't think it would be that different in out western "civilised" world compared to them tho.
You know going for younger is by natural design, right? Younger is healthier and more capable of childbirth. More eggs, too. We're designed to be breeding at a young age. The older we have children, the more our DNA has deteriorated.
Society adds extra factors to consider, such as personal desires (eg. career) and financial situation. Humans also tend to fail at raising children responsibly, which is not always related to the age of the parents.
The other problem is the mortality rate of mothers in childbirth, which seems to have always been a problem.
I was going to say the same thing. I wouldn't really say it's a Japanese thing for men to be into younger girls, though I guess it depends on how young they mean.
number one result was "any"
That is right, it is normal for people to prefer healthy members of the opposite gender that have properly entered their breeding age.
It is the mistake of the article to have name that implies much younger people than that.
I also like how "10 years younger" is equal to "lolicon". When the guy in question is 40 she'd still be 30 and WAY above lolicon age.
It's survey with typical "harmless" questions that then goes on to obstruct essential informations to make up bullshit claims.
The article doesn't just say "young girls" but "girls young as possible".
It depends on your definition of "young". The ideal childbirth age for a human woman is about 25-35. Going lower and higher than that decreases the likelyhood of a safe and healthy birth. If the girl is extremely young (think 13 or less), then there is a serious threat both to her and the child, which is why such pregnancies are almost universally aborted. Even 18 year old women should avoid childbirth at that age out of purely medical concerns.
Being attracted to women well outside that range is not evolutionary sound. Even disregarding legal concerns, the offspring of men who prefer women within the ideal range are far more likely to raise healthy offspring, which means their genes are more likely to propagate.
No, that's not how it works.
Yes, but the reason your chances for a "safe and healthy birth" drop are different on both ends of the spectrum. At ~40 complications can occur due to age. At say ~20 or later teens, it generally isn't a matter of being too young or giving birth at an unsafe age. It has much more to do with patients being unwilling or unable to seek help during pregnancy and child birth. At this end of the spectrum it's social problems and stigma that drops the stats.
At a certain point it does become unsafe for the female to become pregnant, due to "medical concerns". But that age is certainly much lower than mid 20's. Within reason, probably later teens for most people, it is evolutionarily advantageous to bear children, "the younger the better".
"The older we have children, the more our DNA has deteriorated."
And umm, ya. That's not the reason behind the stats.
It has everything to do with the fact that the body of a young would-be mother isn't fully developed and getting a whole baby out of there is relatively harder. Go ask a gynecologist if you don't believe me.
"It has everything to do with the fact that the body of a young would-be mother isn't fully developed and getting a whole baby out of there is relatively harder. Go ask a gynecologist if you don't believe me."
Bullshit. Life expectancy was less than 30 for almost all of human existence.
Women's body is already fully developed to have children between 14 and 18 years for the largest majority of female populace. Only in very odd cases a 18 year old isn't at her prime to have children, and she will be much less likely to have pregnancy problems than a 25 years old as long as they take similar care with themselves.
Actually that's true.
Teens are usually too young more chances for miscarriage also generally too irresponsible to be a good mother while past 35 there are more chances for problems like downs syndrome.
Though this is not cut a dry the general.
It should be noted society as it is does genetically favor those who can reproduce later.
A side effected of being genetically predisposed to reproduce later also comes with a longer life span.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/06/science/06conv.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 [http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/06/science/06conv.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0]
So we're kinda doing a natural selection on ourselves right now.
Bullshit and feminist propaganda. For most of human history the life expectancy was lower than 30 years. It would be ridiculous to think that we evolved in a way to make the best interval to have children to be between 25 and 35 years.
Women are least likely to have problems before 30 and as long as they ovulate the younger the better.
"It would be ridiculous to think that we evolved in a way to make the best interval to have children to be between 25 and 35 years."
Well evolution doesn't work that way. Young girls and older women do end up having too many complications at childbirth, and mortality/morbidity rates are higher for the mother and baby. That's empirical evidence.
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/rhs-ssg/maternal-maternelle/mortality-mortalite/index-eng.php
The mortality rates for girls younger than 15 are even higher.
Girls under 15 have a 5 times higher risk of dying in pregnancy and child birth than girls over 20.
UNFPA (2004). State of World Population, 2004; [http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2004/english/ch9/page5.htm;]http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2004/english/ch9/page5.htm; accessed 3/21/2007.
World Health Organization, UNFPA. Pregnant Adolescents. Geneva: WHO, 2006.
UNFPA (2005). State of World Population 2005: The Promise of Equality. New York: Author.
"The mortality rates for girls younger than 15 are even higher."
Sure, but mortality rates for girls between 15 and 25, if you discount the very poor that do have not proper care during the pregnancy is considerably lower than for girls between 25 and 35.
Obviously at very young ages women are not fully prepared to bear children, but the vast majority of women are fully developed and in their prime to have children between 14 and 17 years.
@06:33
And in what kind of developed country will you find a large enough pool of under 15's trying to give birth?
Obviously not a very sensible comparison.
There are cases of woman over the age of 40 and up giving birth to healthy children if you don't believe me look up and search "Women at 60 having Babies".
Even the case of two lucky girls at the age of 9 and 12 survived having children which was probability of luck on there side to tell the tale to the media.A lot of us don't like to see children be sexuality exploited but shit happens and its sad we can't always stop every person who want's to touch a boy or girl all we can do is prevent it.
The older we have children, the more our DNA has deteriorated.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57499075-10391704/older-fathers-more-likely-to-pass-on-autism-linked-genetic-mutations-to-offspring-study-shows/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19336438g [www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19336438g]
The two articles are of an Icelandic research that found older dads tend to father children with genetic mutations. So age does matter for men, likely the same for women.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19336438 [www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19336438]
There is a sweet spot. Too young is as bad as too old, but at least an older woman would be able to handle birth or lack of birth far better than a young girl (who has to deal with school and her future as well and physical and mental aspects).
not all guys who want 12 year old girls want to have kids.
@08:56 - if they think they should be allowed to have sex with them then they have to consider it a possibility, meaning they shouldn't even consider risking it.
Well keep telling yourself that, paedophile.
Hilarious because it's true.