Toriyama: “Hollywood’s Dragon Ball Sucked”


With unusual candour for a top mangaka, on the eve of the release of the first animated Dragon Ball movie in over a decade series creator Akira Toriyama has taken some time out to bash the notoriously bad Hollywood adaptation he authorised.

A recent interview with Akira Toriyama about the new (2D) Dragon Ball Z movie, which for the first time he is helping to script, includes the admission that he was less than pleased with the Hollywood version:

With the Hollywood live action version, the script didn’t contain much evidence of the distinctive Dragon Ball world, and wasn’t even that interesting, and despite me warning them and suggesting changes they were so sure of themselves that they ignored me.

What they came out with in the end was a movie I can’t really call on par with the usual Dragon Ball.

Prior to the movie’s release he esteemed “the super talent of the production staff and actors” and enthused that “thanks to their power this may become a major masterpiece!”, and since its release has generally kept quiet about it.

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    Comment by God
    23:55 30/03/2013 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Where are the news?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:19 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well that's why Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods. was made and released today :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:05 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I know the 3D dragonball was BAD, but Battle of the Gods wasn't exactly a good movie. I mean, super saiyan God? What the crap?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:48 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Screwattack where extremely bias to dragon ball so don't take then serious

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:58 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Screwattack had superman beat goku, how is that bias to Dragon Ball?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:22 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    How much higher could they go? The Saiyens' powers already exceeded the power of the Kais, which were the gods of the Dragonball universe.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:46 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Their not stronger than superman apparently. Check out superman vs Goku by screwattack

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:27 01/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)


    As opposed to what, frilly panties for all the Goku fanboys?

    So some guys' imaginary hero beat up your imaginary hero in a youtube video? Get over it and get a life.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:58 07/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    That Screwattack thing was bias against Goku on several notes. I wont go too serious but I saw it and given I know plenty about both of them I can say that they just did it to decide a winner, but the facts aren't enough to support victory for either given that they didnt take into account that saiyans grow stronger as they fight stronger opponents and that neither of them would be stupid enough to endanger the planet to defeat the other, they care about others too much to think only of themselves and do something that rash.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:47 01/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Look like we have ton of ppl that like to wear red underwear

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:54 01/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    what about THANOS?!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:17 01/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm surprised they didn't make it into 7 different movies, each with a different fighting sequence >.>

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:55 31/03/2013 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    Water is wet, sky is blue, and everyone in this movie will job to Goku.

    Wait, wait, let's make that something special...

    Roses are red,
    Violets are blue,
    Everyone is going
    To job to Goku.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:30 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    "To job"? Do you even speak fucking English?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:42 01/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    They used Urban Dictionary so the answer is no they don't speak English.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:54 30/03/2013 # ! Good (+0.8)

    What did you expect? It's Hollywood.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:34 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, give Akira Toriyama a break. I think everyone is entitled to at least one major screw-up in their professional career. What started off as hopeful optimism ended in a bitter and miserable failure. I never watched Evolution, myself, but even from the previews I could tell that Toriyama did not have much of a say in the creative process that led to the final result.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:08 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Didn't the recent Batman movies come out of "Hollywood"?

    It's just some egotistical and ignorant directors/producers with too much power in their hands, like Uwe Boll, they're the problem.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:49 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.1)

    Most of the Hollywood movies suck.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:28 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You need to learn about the Pareto ratio, and Sturgeon's law.

    You only need a handful of good movies to cover for all the failures.

    The better the one movie, the more you can squeeze out of it. The first release, the BD, the DVD, sell it to TV networks later. Sell it to Netflix.

    And if you're George Lucas, release a new and totally official remade version, again.

    Furthermore, thanks to Hollywood accounting, you can underplay how much you made, so you don't have to pay as much royalties.

    And there's always the option to blame piracy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:49 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Forget it, generalizing hollywood by sticking all english-speaking films under one umbrella then only looking at the bad ones is what most people have loved to do since the end of the last century. "That's hollywood for ya! for shame!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:20 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    The funny thing is they wont go under since the people paying are too dumb to realize how bad those movies are..

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:48 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    As if Japanese movies were any better.

    How many more Pokemon and Doraemon movies are they going to make?

    Comment by Anonymous

    If most of them sucked Hollywood would have gone under years ago.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:19 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not that the batman movies were some kind of masterpeace, but given enough time, anyone can accidentally come up with a good artwork. This still doesn't excuse the fact that the majority of Hollywood movies are cash cow rehashes with no substance above the typical Internet fanfic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:50 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    "no substance above the typical Internet fanfic." is hyperbolic. If those fanfiction writers were good enough to make a living selling their writing they would. Almost none of them can.

    Also a lot of bad movies come out of hollywood, but that is simple due to the sheer number of movies made there. You would need to be willfully blind to not notice all the successes both from an artistic and entertainment value that came from there. Most movies made in any part of the world suck.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:52 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Praise for Batman and dislike for Uwe Boll. Truth has been spoken, yet it gets downvoted? What exactly was wrong with that post? Or is most of Sankaku really just a bunch of blind haters?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:12 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you take a very good look at Sankaku, you realised they had the intelligence of a mob.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:13 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, and the recent batman movies sucked. What of it?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:48 02/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    i liked how the first batman movie was going but when the director stated that he hated "supernatural" villians he lost me, thats what made batman theman. He was normal doing abnormal things. To me first was good, second was ok third you lost me....
    Should have been the riddler anyways.

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    Comment by Satonaka
    10:27 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Troll harder 10:13; those movies were better than most of the shit HW has come out with in the last 10 maybe 15 years. LOTR was good as well, ignore the hypercrazed LOTR novel fanboys; they can never be pleased.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Yes I agree! I also hate everything that is cool and popular!

    Comment by Anonymous

    Uwe Boll is actually really good at directing, listen to some of his interviews, he gets the shit end of the stick for almost everything. i suggest the radiodrome interview where he really goes into it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:23 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Silly Uwe, cleaning your name on sankaku? Silly Uwe, we can see you.......

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:04 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    l0l. Someone's a tryhard.

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    Comment by Gitami
    10:16 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    He is good at movie making, he's just doing crap movies because the tax scheme in Germany allows producers to claim some relief from government for under performing films. Add in Hollywood accounting as seen in Yamazaki Mari's Thermae Romae article about being underpaid and that means he can get quite a bit of breaks.

    He can make honest living as a good filmmaker or he can make good living as a dishonest filmmaker.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:23 31/03/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    That thing looks like a Mewtwo from a TCG Summoned in Yu-Gi-Oh!

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:39 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Yeah, because Goku vs Mew-Two Rabbit is that much better.

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    Comment by Yamato
    01:51 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Did you seriously just compare Birus to James Marsters Piccolo?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:42 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Majin bUu is freakin pink fat man alien with antenna and hole on his head.. so the rabbit man make sense, in the term of Dragon Ball universe anyway.

    If you read early chapter of Dragon Ball, there are already a rabbit man. He able to change things he touch into carrot. He change Buruma into carrot, and Goku beat his ass, force him turn Buruma back to human, then send him and his two subordinate into moon (it is some kind of pun, as ancient Japanese believe there is rabbit on moon)

    The rabbit mew is not out of Dragon Ball norm, Cell, Frieza, Piccolo, Majin Buu, King Kai, Bibidi all are look like weird animal human hybrid kind of thing

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:59 01/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    anon from he 06:42 31/03/2013

    he looks more like a cat than a rabbit

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:50 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Goku "Battle of Gods" is shit, too

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:03 01/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah, i don't trust that movie too...

    but then again i must watch it!

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    Comment by warjoke
    23:16 30/03/2013 # ! Good (+0.3)

    Why does he have to tell this now? Why not when its still a complete subject of ridicule when it first came out?

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    Comment by Katsura
    23:42 30/03/2013 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Because it sucked so much that it doesn't deserve Toriyama's immediate attention to say that it sucks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:15 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    But it's basically the same he said around 20 year ago about the original Dragon Ball anime... Does that mean for Toriyama both are abouth the same quality?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:24 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Last 20 year, he said the anime sucked because some part (like Goku's revival after Cell saga)was inadvertently pushed by editorial/reader's call for Goku to remain as the main hero. Evolution on the other, just sucked from the get-go; cast to story to production. Most likely for Toriyama, Dragon Ball's awesome as long as it follows his way of telling the story.

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    Comment by Denshousha
    02:44 02/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    There is some sort of reboot manga out called Dragonball SD. Toriyama doesn't draw it. It looked kind of dumb, so I didn't pick it up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:58 01/04/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    09:51 31/03/2013
    Rebooting the universe is but a lame business decision to get back from their low sales. The US comic industry is in a pinch so both DC and Marvel had to take drastic measures to lure back their customers and attract new ones.

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    Comment by Myballz
    06:31 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    He didn't endorse the movie.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:51 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe Toriyama should reboot Dragon Ball the same way DC reboots its comics

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:56 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd rather hear what he thinks about DBGT.

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    Comment by Powerpuff Loli
    13:00 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    To say something that will get people's attention and get free publicity for the new movie. Any publicity is good publicity.

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    Comment by warjoke
    14:05 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    That makes sense. LOL

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:15 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    because this new 2D movie is soooooooo much better??

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:13 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    because this new 2D movie is soooooooo much better?

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    Comment by cats2
    05:27 31/03/2013 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Yeah, the point is more that he didn't say shit about it before it came out, and did the "wait and see" approach so he could have the best of both worlds if it was bad or good..

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:20 31/03/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    More like he didn't want to hurt the sales so he would get his share.

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