Toriyama: “Hollywood’s Dragon Ball Sucked”
- Categories: Manga, News
- Date: Mar 30, 2013 23:08 JST
- Tags: Adaptations, Akira Toriyama, Dragonball, Hollywood, Mangaka, Movies
With unusual candour for a top mangaka, on the eve of the release of the first animated Dragon Ball movie in over a decade series creator Akira Toriyama has taken some time out to bash the notoriously bad Hollywood adaptation he authorised.
A recent interview with Akira Toriyama about the new (2D) Dragon Ball Z movie, which for the first time he is helping to script, includes the admission that he was less than pleased with the Hollywood version:
With the Hollywood live action version, the script didn’t contain much evidence of the distinctive Dragon Ball world, and wasn’t even that interesting, and despite me warning them and suggesting changes they were so sure of themselves that they ignored me.
What they came out with in the end was a movie I can’t really call on par with the usual Dragon Ball.
Prior to the movie’s release he esteemed “the super talent of the production staff and actors” and enthused that “thanks to their power this may become a major masterpiece!”, and since its release has generally kept quiet about it.
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Well that's why Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods. was made and released today :)
I know the 3D dragonball was BAD, but Battle of the Gods wasn't exactly a good movie. I mean, super saiyan God? What the crap?
Screwattack where extremely bias to dragon ball so don't take then serious
Screwattack had superman beat goku, how is that bias to Dragon Ball?
How much higher could they go? The Saiyens' powers already exceeded the power of the Kais, which were the gods of the Dragonball universe.
Their not stronger than superman apparently. Check out superman vs Goku by screwattack
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As opposed to what, frilly panties for all the Goku fanboys?
So some guys' imaginary hero beat up your imaginary hero in a youtube video? Get over it and get a life.
That Screwattack thing was bias against Goku on several notes. I wont go too serious but I saw it and given I know plenty about both of them I can say that they just did it to decide a winner, but the facts aren't enough to support victory for either given that they didnt take into account that saiyans grow stronger as they fight stronger opponents and that neither of them would be stupid enough to endanger the planet to defeat the other, they care about others too much to think only of themselves and do something that rash.
Look like we have ton of ppl that like to wear red underwear
what about THANOS?!!
I'm surprised they didn't make it into 7 different movies, each with a different fighting sequence >.>
Water is wet, sky is blue, and everyone in this movie will job to Goku.
Wait, wait, let's make that something special...
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Everyone is going
To job to Goku.
"To job"? Do you even speak fucking English?
They used Urban Dictionary so the answer is no they don't speak English.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jobbing
What did you expect? It's Hollywood.
Yeah, give Akira Toriyama a break. I think everyone is entitled to at least one major screw-up in their professional career. What started off as hopeful optimism ended in a bitter and miserable failure. I never watched Evolution, myself, but even from the previews I could tell that Toriyama did not have much of a say in the creative process that led to the final result.
Didn't the recent Batman movies come out of "Hollywood"?
It's just some egotistical and ignorant directors/producers with too much power in their hands, like Uwe Boll, they're the problem.
Most of the Hollywood movies suck.
You need to learn about the Pareto ratio, and Sturgeon's law.
You only need a handful of good movies to cover for all the failures.
The better the one movie, the more you can squeeze out of it. The first release, the BD, the DVD, sell it to TV networks later. Sell it to Netflix.
And if you're George Lucas, release a new and totally official remade version, again.
Furthermore, thanks to Hollywood accounting, you can underplay how much you made, so you don't have to pay as much royalties.
And there's always the option to blame piracy.
Forget it, generalizing hollywood by sticking all english-speaking films under one umbrella then only looking at the bad ones is what most people have loved to do since the end of the last century. "That's hollywood for ya! for shame!"
The funny thing is they wont go under since the people paying are too dumb to realize how bad those movies are..
As if Japanese movies were any better.
How many more Pokemon and Doraemon movies are they going to make?
If most of them sucked Hollywood would have gone under years ago.
Not that the batman movies were some kind of masterpeace, but given enough time, anyone can accidentally come up with a good artwork. This still doesn't excuse the fact that the majority of Hollywood movies are cash cow rehashes with no substance above the typical Internet fanfic.
"no substance above the typical Internet fanfic." is hyperbolic. If those fanfiction writers were good enough to make a living selling their writing they would. Almost none of them can.
Also a lot of bad movies come out of hollywood, but that is simple due to the sheer number of movies made there. You would need to be willfully blind to not notice all the successes both from an artistic and entertainment value that came from there. Most movies made in any part of the world suck.
Praise for Batman and dislike for Uwe Boll. Truth has been spoken, yet it gets downvoted? What exactly was wrong with that post? Or is most of Sankaku really just a bunch of blind haters?
If you take a very good look at Sankaku, you realised they had the intelligence of a mob.
Yes, and the recent batman movies sucked. What of it?
i liked how the first batman movie was going but when the director stated that he hated "supernatural" villians he lost me, thats what made batman theman. He was normal doing abnormal things. To me first was good, second was ok third you lost me....
Should have been the riddler anyways.
Troll harder 10:13; those movies were better than most of the shit HW has come out with in the last 10 maybe 15 years. LOTR was good as well, ignore the hypercrazed LOTR novel fanboys; they can never be pleased.
Yes I agree! I also hate everything that is cool and popular!
Uwe Boll is actually really good at directing, listen to some of his interviews, he gets the shit end of the stick for almost everything. i suggest the radiodrome interview where he really goes into it.
Silly Uwe, cleaning your name on sankaku? Silly Uwe, we can see you.......
l0l. Someone's a tryhard.
He is good at movie making, he's just doing crap movies because the tax scheme in Germany allows producers to claim some relief from government for under performing films. Add in Hollywood accounting as seen in Yamazaki Mari's Thermae Romae article about being underpaid and that means he can get quite a bit of breaks.
He can make honest living as a good filmmaker or he can make good living as a dishonest filmmaker.
That thing looks like a Mewtwo from a TCG Summoned in Yu-Gi-Oh!
Yeah, because Goku vs Mew-Two Rabbit is that much better.
Did you seriously just compare Birus to James Marsters Piccolo?
Majin bUu is freakin pink fat man alien with antenna and hole on his head.. so the rabbit man make sense, in the term of Dragon Ball universe anyway.
If you read early chapter of Dragon Ball, there are already a rabbit man. He able to change things he touch into carrot. He change Buruma into carrot, and Goku beat his ass, force him turn Buruma back to human, then send him and his two subordinate into moon (it is some kind of pun, as ancient Japanese believe there is rabbit on moon)
The rabbit mew is not out of Dragon Ball norm, Cell, Frieza, Piccolo, Majin Buu, King Kai, Bibidi all are look like weird animal human hybrid kind of thing
anon from he 06:42 31/03/2013
he looks more like a cat than a rabbit
Goku "Battle of Gods" is shit, too
yeah, i don't trust that movie too...
but then again i must watch it!
Why does he have to tell this now? Why not when its still a complete subject of ridicule when it first came out?
Because it sucked so much that it doesn't deserve Toriyama's immediate attention to say that it sucks.
But it's basically the same he said around 20 year ago about the original Dragon Ball anime... Does that mean for Toriyama both are abouth the same quality?
Last 20 year, he said the anime sucked because some part (like Goku's revival after Cell saga)was inadvertently pushed by editorial/reader's call for Goku to remain as the main hero. Evolution on the other, just sucked from the get-go; cast to story to production. Most likely for Toriyama, Dragon Ball's awesome as long as it follows his way of telling the story.
There is some sort of reboot manga out called Dragonball SD. Toriyama doesn't draw it. It looked kind of dumb, so I didn't pick it up.
09:51 31/03/2013
Rebooting the universe is but a lame business decision to get back from their low sales. The US comic industry is in a pinch so both DC and Marvel had to take drastic measures to lure back their customers and attract new ones.
He didn't endorse the movie.
Maybe Toriyama should reboot Dragon Ball the same way DC reboots its comics
I'd rather hear what he thinks about DBGT.
To say something that will get people's attention and get free publicity for the new movie. Any publicity is good publicity.
That makes sense. LOL
because this new 2D movie is soooooooo much better??
because this new 2D movie is soooooooo much better?
Yeah, the point is more that he didn't say shit about it before it came out, and did the "wait and see" approach so he could have the best of both worlds if it was bad or good..
More like he didn't want to hurt the sales so he would get his share.