China & Korea Refuse To Attend 3/11 Memorial
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Mar 12, 2013 00:15 JST
- Tags: China, Earthquakes, Events, Fukushima, Korea, Politics, Senkaku Complex, Taiwan
China and South Korea are facing intense criticism in Japan after both nations refused to attend the official 2nd anniversary memorial service for the 3/11 tragedy, with China even going a step further and criticising Japan for allowing Taiwan to present a wreath at the ceremony.
The Japanese government’s 2nd anniversary memorial service for the tragedy of 3/11 saw victims of the disaster joined by the prime minister and emperor.
However, amongst the over 150 other nations joining the service, two were conspicuously absent – China and South Korea both refused to send representatives.
Japan’s foreign ministry merely comments that “it was the Chinese side’s decision.” China has not given any reason for its decision, and nor has Korea.
The previous year’s service saw Taiwan excluded from the nations providing wreaths as a gesture of appeasement towards China, a decision which was widely criticised in Japan given the extremely sympathetic attitude of Taiwan in response to the tragedy.
This year, likely helped along by the presence of an LDP government and China’s continuing provocations, Taiwan was allowed to present a wreath and announced together with the other participating countries – tacitly acknowledging its independence and infuriating China into the bargain.
China denounced the change, saying it was “firmly opposed” to “any violation of the principles of the joint declaration” and voicing its “intense dissatisfaction and protest” against the development, although it has not gone so far as to tie the two events together.
Online there has been almost universal condemnation (some are evidently happier with them staying away) of both nations, with efforts to politicise attendance at such an event being seen as in the worst possible taste.
Perhaps not coincidentally, the 11th also saw reports of Chinese patrol ships once again circling the disputed Senkaku islands.
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what the hell does it even matter? how does what happened have to do with country other than japan?
Nothing really. It's all just a political game whether you go or don't go.
It's like when countries boycott the Olympics because they're butt-hurt about something stupid.
Asian countries have a habit of having relics in charge.
Old men hold old grudges they say.
or... idk.....they're too busy with the DMZ situation in NK/SK. It's japan's issue, who cares if china or korea went. They can QQ alone
It's quite interesting. My grandfather does not hold any grudges against Japan. He was in Hong Kong during the Japanese occupation and considering how my grandmother's sisters 'disappeared' during the occupation (and forced to work as comfort women) would have been more than enough to really fuel old grudges against Japan.
But I remember one thing my grandparents said to me and it stuck.
"Some people may hold on to the past but you shouldn't. There has to be at least one party willing to mediate and hold on to the future so that future generations can be happy and learn from the past's gruesome mistakes."
I think that's the best I can translate from Cantonese.
More people like your grandparents will make the world a better place.
Luckily those are the kind that survive. The rest, tend to try and kill each other, which is fine.
Age is not a problem. Everybody gets olds, regardless of how open minded they are.
It's the way people elect governments that lies in the root of the issue.
>>It's the way people elect governments
>>elect
>>China
..derp.
Chinese government does get elected... by itself... but hey, it still is a kind of "election".
but in asian countries age is revered whether earned or not.
Just like how their 'pride' is revered by themselves whether it's earned or not.
Infantile people with infantile attitudes. No wonder the rest of the world thinks of them as their personal cumdumpsters.
Maybe I misunderstand you meaning, but I don't you can blame the China side based on how it is elected... given that it isn't really elcted.
I would correct your statement as follows.
"Age is not the problem. Its the way people are in charge of governments."
Sure, because the American senate is full of hip young 20 year-olds, right?
They also hold the power.
Not really. It's more that asians tend to propogate grudges to their children. So the grudges that should have been forgiven and forgotten continue on.
Yes, just Asians. There aren't many young Westerners around that hold no grudges against Germany or Japan.
Yes, but the rest of us refer to them as bigots and morons.
Uh, of course I meant "that still hold grudges".
Asian kids are all racist against each other too. They're all morons arguing over which ching chong is better. Ah now I sound a little racist.
Ironically no one else in the world cares or can even tell the difference between them. They can't always either, don't let them fool you. Lul.
and everyone in east asia is going to fucking die because of these stupid old men and their grudges
although, to be fair, when it comes to the anti-youth scumbags that run japan that's probably exactly what they fucking want.
Well the issue with Taiwan is, Taiwan used to be a city in China. China sees Taiwan as its territory, and not as an autonomous state. They're essentially a rebel holdout of the pre-communist old regime, and as long as they exist, they're a threat to mainland china. China does not want to acknowledge they're an independent state that is running separate from China. Likewise, Taiwan sees themselves as the true China. That attitude as faded as they accept they are now a little island nation.
It's just like how North Korea does not see South Korea as a legitimate country, and vice versa. But as a divided state. Has nothing to do with grudges. It's about territory and control.
That attitude will never fade. Never in Hong Kong, nor in Taiwan.
It's actually simpler than that... neither side wants to admit defeat, and both sides want to see the two sides united (albeit on their own terms). As a result, the civil war is technically STILL ongoing.
Taiwan is to China as Canada is to the US. Enough said.
A City? Taiwan is too big to be just a "city".
Also Taiwan does not see it self as the "true Cina".
Get your facts right.
This comment with be voted down for no apparent reason.
Actually, spamming is a fairly obvious reason.
Wow...I guess China and Taiwan will never just up and end their tired, overly done political and verbal attacks on each other.
Actually, Taiwan deserve to be there. And of course, CHina is going to cry about it because they think they control us.
Taiwan actually sent a lot of help to Japan during Fukishima and the earthquake. The consensus here in taiwan is that we are proud and happy to send help and happy to help Japan, who helped us a lot as well too.
China and Korea will always be Korea and China: they are stuck in their racist prejiducal ways and still raging about things that happened in the past. The two will never change and until that happens, there will alwayss be issues between Japan, Korea and China.
Hi there yellow stuff. Over here, you're still Chinese. So don't be smug.
Hi there, asshole. Over here, you're still a piece of shit.
Oh America.. This is why you're too stupid to even agree on a BUDGET. Shut your pie hole and go back to jerking off while watching Honey Booboo and leave the rest of us alone.
Given how much of a wuss obama is they probably would if you morons could actually get along for more than 10 seconds without threatening to start WW3 over nothing but a pathetic false sense of pride of nations that are in even worse shape than the US.
Smug? How.
Just stating facts and observations. Nothing smug about it.
07:28 Oh 'taiwanese', why can't you stop your minorities from defiling your pure 'chinese' blood or being eclipsed by koreans and japanese economically and athletically? America will have you by the chin if you don't learn to zip that mouth of yours in time :)
I'm not Chinese, I'm "Taiwanese." I just look Chinese, but I'm actually better. I don't hate myself, because I'm not myself. I'm better than myself.
Lulz
@02:00
Great fail at sarcasm.
It's like calling a Canadian, an American.
Or calling an American, English.
Or calling any black man in American, African.
Now all these are not disgraceful like forcing a Taiwanese to become Chinese because those are not crap holes like China is, but I think people can get the gist.
Just because they might have the same bloodline, or live close to each other, people live under different governments and obey different laws and have different culture and have different set of morals etc etc.
Sure Taiwanese is Chinese by blood but their country is Taiwan.
Here's how you can tell if you are a racist.
If you think people should act and identify themselves due to their "Bloodline", then you are a racist.
Humans should identify themselves in their own individual believes and morals, that's what makes people unique, not their race.
Sickening. Like China and South Korea are the only victims of war. Last time I check, VN was occupied by the Japanese force, and they don't hold grudge that long.
Notice that it's the East Asia family that's high on grudges.
ask Europeans about the Nazi then
No body's screaming day and night about how germans deserve to be wiped off the face of the earth, or that germany has not done enough to at least partially be forgiven for their acts in that era. How else are they able to lead the EU?
Nazism is an ideology. Disliking it is not a grudge. It would be a grudge if we disliked the German people because their grandfathers were ruled by Nazis, which we don't.
You mean Jews, not Europeans.
With Jews it's a money thing. Holocaust
whining is a cash cow as the continue to
extort money from German guilt.
Nobody holds a grudge towards Germany because they have a different government AND the new government apologized for the wrong doings of its predecessor in the war.
In the other hand, Japanese government (the same one that started the war) never apologized and even refused in several accounts to compensate the families of the victims. For fuck's sake, a bunch of their prime ministers pay tribute(officially as head of nation) to the shrine that enshrines 14 war criminals from World War II annually!!
Wrong, should ask Europeans what would they feel if the allies acted as if holocaust never happened.
And we have a prize for anon 01:48 for posting the first logic based argument in the comments to this article.
A holocaust did happen in China, that killed 20 million people. The perpetrator was Mao. Why do Chinese people pretend it never happened?
Sigh, Nanking Massacre.
In May 1994, Justice Minister Shigeto Nagano called the Nanjing Massacre a "fabrication".
On June 19, 2007, a group of around 100 Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) lawmakers again denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication, arguing that there was no evidence to prove the allegations of mass killings by Japanese soldiers. They accused Beijing of using the alleged incident as a "political advertisement".
On February 20, 2012, Takashi Kawamura, mayor of Nagoya, told a visiting delegation from Nanjing that the massacre "probably never happened". Two days later he defended his remarks, saying, "Even since I was a national Diet representative, I have said [repeatedly] there was no [Nanjing] massacre that resulted in murders of several hundred thousands of people."
On February 24, 2012, Tokyo governor Shintaro Ishihara said that he also believes that the Nanjing massacre never happened. He reportedly claims it would have been impossible to kill so many people in such a short period of time.
Have you not looked at the US and its grudges across the world?
Philippines were also occupied for 4 years
and many atrocities were committed, yet I don't
see any of the hatred towards Japan that
crybaby PRC and Korea have.
wow your stupidity is unimaginable..
4 years is nothing compared to half a century (that's how long Korea was under Japan). That is irrelevant anyway. China, Japan and Korea have a long history of conflict. Especially butthurt Korea which forced to be vassal state of either nation most of the time.
36 years is not fuckin half a century, dumb gook shit who can't do math.
1905-1945 was 40 years, not 36.
De facto occupation began with Japan-Korea Treaty of Amity in 1876, when Japanese troops no longer have to follow Korean laws while in Korea, even before Korea became a formal vassal state in 1905.
04:09 Defacto Occupation, like when the Chosen Dynasty was still standing? Half a government is still not an occupation, and there were certain limits to japanese BS in korea until at least 1909. Learn your proper history instead of bullshit about being proud of becoming japan's bitch longer than other nations.
This is all from proper korean sources, so check yourself.
@ 02:44
Korea's just got bad luck like Poland. For centuries Poland was either occupied by Czarist Russia, The German Empire, Austro Hungarian Empire, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union,then a puppet state of Soviet Union. Just in the wrong place ALL the time in history.
"Half a government is still not an occupation"
Someone just can't admit they're just wrong and butthurt here...
14:53 lol go learn some history.
4 years, huh? Compared to half a century for Korea? Or how about comparing bodycount to China's? Hint: It's on a different order of magnitude.
Don't get me wrong, they should get over it, but not because Philippines did. Don't compare your paper cut to other people's amputation.
That was because PHL is a long time trading partner of Japan and are actually in good terms before, and after the war. Davao is where the Japanese usually (and still) hang out.
The Japanese empire also seriously considered intervening when PH was still a Spanish territory.
The Japanese were kind to Filipinos in comparison, even in wartime. Of course, they had to do what had to be done to those that opposed them. After the war, they decided to resume business, and still does to this day.
I've put it in the past where the situation now and then were greatly different.