“Fasting Herbivores”: Increase in 30+ Virgins “Very Worrying”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Oct 29, 2012 03:38 JST
- Tags: Dating, Internet, Marriage, Otaku, Relationships, Ronery, Statistics, Virginity
Concern is growing about a new class of “herbivorous” men whose disinterest in sex has reached new lows, with these ageing virgins being dubbed “fasting herbivores.”
The Japanese media has successfully crafted a minor industry out of the “herbivorous males” and “carnivorous females” which are supposedly overtaking Japan (not that government statistics tend to dispute this) – and now have a new one, in the form of “fasting herbivores.”
According to surveys of men aged 25 to 34 conducted by one marriage research agency, only 14% now consider themselves “determinedly carnivorous.”
The rest is reportedly made up of various gradations of herbivore who express “problems with women,” “an inability to become assertive” or similar, with another 14% describing themselves as “having no interest in romance at all and being content to live a life without women.”
Half of these hardcore herbivores report having no sexual experience at all, and such totally unassertive and apparently disinterested men have been dubbed “fasting herbivores” – they are not only not eating “meat,” but are in fact not eating at all.
All this has incited the usual concerns about shrinking populations, and how terrible it is that there will not be enough young people around to pay for all the extravagant pensions the older generations voted themselves.
Whilst experts are still unable to offer much in the way of useful explanation for this chronic lack of interest in courting, fortunately there is always a ready population of lonely virgins on hand to be tapped for their insights, such as they are:
“Virgins at 30 – creepy!”
“Women really enjoy coming up with stories based on this ‘herbivore’ and ‘carnivore’ rubbish, don’t they?”
“When it comes to these surveys, would anyone admit to questioners they are a virgin in their thirties? I have to say I have my doubts about the survey.”
“The survey may be rubbish but I think it is true all the same…”
“With a browser and some ero-manga who needs women.”
“I got married and had a kid – very cute!”
“Thanks, for the sake of my pension.”
“Why does stuff like this get so much attention?” [The thread had attracted 14,000 comments at this point]
“Because of all the virgins on here…”
“Seeing how much interest this gets kind of shows just how little you virgins actually do ignore women.”
“Are you guys really all virgins? Some of the stuff you people say really tends to suggest that.”
“Look at all the virgins fighting amongst each other…”
“These articles are all framed for old hags: herbivores = ones who won’t do them.”
“Saying they are ‘fasting’ implies they will starve to death, but I don’t think celibacy works like that.”
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“With a browser and some ero-manga who needs women.”
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this
Although the net is jail bait nowadays too, like sex now you need a condom = VPN!
YES TRUE.
Such wisdom.
It must be quoted everywhere.
"fap fap fap"
What's the problem? This is just another step of human revolution.
We've been defying our instincts and building a world where those instincts are not necessary.
Now we're beginning to strip off even very basic instincts, like the sex drive.
On the other hand I heard there are still people who prefer to sit in the corner to be able to keep an eye on everyone and have their own backs free...
Watching your own back is still a valid survival trait. Besides which, corners can be quite comfortable...
“With a browser and some ero-manga who needs women.”
Not that there is a problem, but sex is fun, and I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to do it.
That's not always an improvement. Certain traits like social behaviour or fear of injury are extremely helpful even in modern society.
We are not. Such a trait wouldn't spread among the populace for obvious reasons.
> Not that there is a problem, but sex is fun, and I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to do it.
Sex is but relationships aren't.
"Fasting Herbivores" is a hell of a misnomer. These aren't men who don't want sex, *WE DO*. We don't want relationships.
Looking for a relationship is a risky and unenjoyable activity with a high faliure rate. Succeeding in getting a relationship still doesn't mean you get a good one, there's the bad ones and there's the nasty ones.
On top of that, getting a good relationship still involves a lot of work with *limited* rewards.
Too many of us have grown to parents who regret their lives.
The kind of people who think there's nothing better than being in a relationship are the lucky ones. Their luck stiffles their ability to relate to people who are uninterested or fed up with relationships.
We are not. Such a trait wouldn't spread among the populace for obvious reasons.
You are seriously posting this beneath a post that shows that there are more men than ever before who are not interested in sex?
I think he meant it won't spread to the populace genetically. Because you know, they don't reproduce and won't pass on the trait of not liking sex.
But I think there are other ways the trait could spread.
Oh, really? I must have missed the part where sex drive in society is declining significantly. Maybe it's because human population is growing faster than ever before... must be all those people not having sex.
You do know, who they are, that "growing" population, don't you?
We don't live in a sci fi world where humans come from a labratory. The same instinct we share with all animals are indeed necessary. Humans are social animals, and those that shun this are not operating on all cylinders.
Just like almost any activity, some people find it fun and others don't. If the majority finds the activity fun (like sex) then it's considered normal and a desirable trait (since, after all, we dislike those who are different). If the majority finds the activity not fun (long sessions of some MMO) then it's considered bad and those who like it are freaks.
Some people like to bungee jump, I don't. A lot of people like cats/dogs/other furry animals, I don't (if I was forced to have a pet, it would either be a fish or tarantula since these are the animals I dislike the least and they are kept in a special box instead of running around the house).
> Not that there is a problem, but sex is fun, and I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to do it.
Then either you're trolling or you're lacking of elementary imagination. True, sex is - generally - fun, but there are many things related with (good) sex which are much much less funny to do or to be prepared for.
It's a matter of simple calculation. For some people all real and potential problems with getting laid outweighs fun they could get from it, that's all.
Use a condom. 90% of the problems that could come out of sex just got solved.
Why shoul a 30, 40, 50 yo virgin be creepy? I can see the sad or ridicule part, but creepy?
They call everything that different than average salaryman boring life and behavior as creepy. Like an otaku, cosplayer, or ero manga..
Because only the salaryman would support them.
It's very difficult to form meaningful relationships for them. It used to me mom and dad went out shopping for a nice wife and you just married her after the families worked out something, simple.
But they've realized how dumb that custom is but Japanese society doesn't quite know how to go on about choosing a wife or husband yet or exactly how to date.
I'm positive that eventually there'll be less single men and women in Japan, it just needs time.
But... it's not like you can't be a "perfect" salaryman and not score for all your life...
I thought is more of a culture thing.
They could be very mean to people not in their circle.
I'd imagine it's difficult for guys to willingly allow themselves to be enslaved by wedlock.
All the guys I know that have been in relationships with women have had to constantly bend over to their wives' selfish desires. EG. "Oh, I can't do this or that, the wife doesn't like me doing it."
I also personally know several guys who were all used (and discarded) by women to further their academic status, or pay for their hobbies and career, or divorced them to legally claim half their assets. Who in their right mind wants to risk going through all that nonsense?
Many males I've talked to seem to agree that, were it not for the pain of loneliness, remaining single is far better because of the freedom and peace that it offers. I don't think anyone can deny that those are huge trade-offs for getting into a relationship.
If society wants relationships to work, they need to stop giving everyone so many incentives to screw each other over for selfish greedy benefits.
You can go out with women without getting married. Seriously, my parents aren't married and they've been going out 20+ years. Technically that means I'm a bastard but whatever. It works.
Lol FUCK marriage! Viva Single Virgin Forever!
Mandatory pre-nup ftw.
A society that pushes competition and shame on people since childhood has a large amount of unsociable shut-ins? I'm shocked.
Yeah, Japan's hole society is killing itself.
Yeah, and ll these abomination culture will die out with the Japanese.
So, finally all those overseas otakus and herbivours will finally come to their senses with the extinction of Japan.
And guess what, China is willing to lend a hand in that matter.
Dont forget us nigga's! Wer'e comin' for yo jap Bitches! >:D
That culture of competition is present in all east asian societies. China is far worse - kids in 5th grade are known to study until midnight - yet it's Japan that had these problems, even though their academic pressure is low compared to China and Korea.
The real cause is distribution of wealth. Old fossils held all the wealth in Japan. It's also true to a degree in western societies, but not to such an extent. Chinese millionaires tend to be young and aggressive.
South Koreans study around the clock.
The asians, the reasons why they push their young so hard is because of this:
They do not wish to serve or be under "the man" as other minorities have been. I don't blame them.
Is it me or is there growing population of wizards going on o Japan....
They are wizards, but their wands are limp.
Wait, so did Snape kill Dumbledore as a result? Thanks in advance.
But they have mana, don't let succubus' get your mana boys!
Serious note:
I think all this can be blamed to women, they are free now and don't know what to do with that freedom. If not so perfect man tries to make contact with them, he is made to look like a creep and/or they call the cops.
I'd rather fuck prostitutes.
To Anon 21:28. How come that someone who dislikes the opinion of others immidiatly start calling them creeps or less human?
Maybe if you weren't such a creep this wouldn't happen to you.
How can not when men want to EAT 13-17 year old and they are hunted down instead?
Many want sex but authorities dont let them, no wonder many just give up instead of getting into trouble.
Just see history, those gars are normal for sex, have always been its just Christianity that has generalized their screwed up morals.
Nope. It's the Victorians. Blame the English.
The puritains were happily fucking 12 year olds until the Victorians spread AOC across the western world.
what's the point of trying to go only after the most fertile females when they are less experienced. And it's clearly not for procreation's sake. That's just a fetish. There are better fetishes out there.
That's just a fetish.
Any form of sexual behavior that does not strictly fulfil the purpouse of procreation is considered a fetish nowdays.
There are better fetishes out there.
Talk about completely missing the point. The only "better" fetish is the one that makes you happier. Procreation has nothing to do with it, and it never did.
The point I was trying to make was why limit yourself to one troublesome demographic, and only that one group. There's a whole wide world of women out there beyond teenage girls.
Without rape, there'd be more wizards.
So gaijin should say hello more often.
Yeah, Mage Guilds are beginning to open up everywhere over there.
They are not mage guilds. they are smart men like those of the MRA (Mens Rights Activist) movement in the U.S.
I support MRA!
It's because they have a magic academy over there. Haven't you watched anime before man?
Well, why you wouldn't want to be a wizard, ifyou're an otaku anyway? You're sex life wouldn't change and you would never have to pay for anything.
Did you just call him a sex life? How dare you?
Ahahaha fagfgot
Well, oops?
He just called him nothing, the meanie.
lol yes, wizards, with cape and wizard hat, casting eroticism... XD
i bet there's a large growing population of female wizards as well...
“With a browser and some ero-manga who needs women.”
it's a whole new world, soon we'll have options mage/warlock..
I'm going for demi-lich myself.
I 'm going for an Incubus. Make up for lost time.
Going for Assasin. Isihara, your time has come *goes sneaking to the tune of Wicker man*
>*goes sneaking to the tune of Wicker man*
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ＮＯＴ ＴＨＥ ＢＥＥＳ ＮＯ
ＡＡＡＨ ＴＨＥＹ’ＲＥ ＩＮ ＭＹ ＥＹＥＳ
I'm going for healer
I'm going for fighter
Going for a monk, be good with my fists.
And I'm going for a demonic genie of the magical girl making variety.
Say... do you guys want to fight evil in frilly dresses? All you need to do is sign this totally inconspicuous flaming contract paper. Don't worry, there are no clauses concerning anyone's soul. Although I'm going to eat yours if you sign anyway. Muwahahahahaha!
I'm going for Turtle. Wait this isn't Dragon Ball Online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBLkLwz4Oyo