The government of Tokyo has banned yet more saucy manga as “unhealthy to minors,” although unusually there are actually some manga fans prepared to defend the move, condemning the title as “indefensible” and “provocative.”
The manga at issue this time is “Pochi to Goshujin-sama,” a BDSM eroge manga adaptation published by Ascii Media Works and formerly serialised in Dengeki Hime, but now classified as “unhealthy literature” and now subject to a sales ban by the Tokyo government.
They object to the manga not being sold as adult literature, saying it “depicts semen and sounds which constitute obscenity.”
Unhealthy or not, the manga in question seems unlikely to be winning any awards for family-friendliness:
It is however apparently a slight step down from the contents of the original adult game, a title much renowned for the quality of its hentai antics than its storyline:
There has been widespread confusion as to just what criteria the Tokyo government is actually applying (previously the city vaguely referred to “the new criteria” when explaining why it had decided not to ban incest titles similar to ones it banned before), with critics observing that “unhealthiness” appears to have more to do with a lack of popularity than actual content.
However, publishers have also been subject to criticism for publishing sexually themed “all-ages” manga which is at times indistinguishable from 18+ ero-manga – though such volumes are not typically circulated through mainstream retailers alongside mass market manga.
The notion that children could freely buy such manga has provoked some outrage (although by the same token nothing stops them buying the rape novels penned by Tokyo’s own beloved governor, or any movie short of hardcore pornography – and yet there have been no efforts to restrict sales of these media), and even amongst otaku online there is not much sympathy for Pochi:
“Out!”
“How is that alright?”
“It is completely out!”
“It’s a huge lie to call this normal (non-ero) manga.”
“It’s normal porno manga!”
“Why do the publishers insist on putting the noose around their own necks like this?”
“Just sell it as an ordinary ero-manga already.”
“It’s too much, Toyko ban or no.”
“Obviously you’ll get banned if you publish this sort of thing.”
“Controversy marketing, surely.”
“Just put an adult only mark on it already.”
“Why do they even sell this stuff as general manga?”
“I stuck up for Ichigo Red, but I can’t defend this.”
“I am totally against censorship, but publishers who are being needlessly provocative like this need to reconsider. It makes a mockery of the ones who take it seriously.”
“What happened to all the people who opposed this law?”
“If this was just a normal ero-manga it would be nothing, but when it is general manga it is exciting for some reason.”
“What’s wrong with Ascii, publishing this as general manga?”
“Well, if To Love-Ru Darkness was approved by the Tokyo government as general manga fit for all ages, I don’t see why this should be banned?”
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In my experience, trying to stop kids from looking at porn is a futile effort.
My parents discouraged me from reading porn and now look at where I browse. It's a difficult habit to get out of.
Dont judge and beat yourself for coming to SC.
Search and watch "Always look on the bright side of life" and cheer up.
I tend to beat myself after coming to Sankaku Complex.
I always look on the bright side of life. Arson is my favorite hobby!
I wish the government of Japan would just come out already and admit it's at war with erections.
@15:17 beat off?
anon 15:57
they call it "chili sauce atonement"
it is hot for your tongue, but still you try it more
Correct, anyone with an internet connection is mere clicks away from porn.
It's like with all things, ain't it? Banning it just draws more interest to it.
My dad let me look at Playboy before I was old enough to care... so I didn't really feel a need to seek it out and sneak it. My parents would also let me have a bit of wine with some meals - not enough to get drunk or anything - and when I became old enough to drink I didn't get into the blackout binge party thing. I got good and drunk a few times and went "meh. It's not really my kinda thing."
So I think there is a good case to be made for being careful about what we make taboo, as it may do more harm than good. On the other hand, I think there are still limits to be drawn on fetish porn and things like that, lest they become formative to the kids. Where that line is drawn would have to depend on a lot of things, like what is normative to the society, how mature and informed the kid seeing it would be, etc, but I think there should still definitely be some caution exercised.
I'm almost envious of you. I had parents who are the religious type so I really didn't get to see or do shit.
Even normal movies people watch I wasn't able to see(like blood, or gore, or magic) and they still tried to badger me even when I was 18 years of age!
It's now hard for me to even talk about sex at all...so I come to Sankaku Complex. What a relief.
...Your parents...*sniffle*...they're amazing people.
instead of banning unhealty porn for kids, they should create healthy porn for all kids. lets face it, kids have seen porn even before the internet.
No, that's just buying into the red herring. The so called "unhealthy porn" isn't unhealthy at all. The primary source of perversion (sexual or otherwise) is social inhibitions set early in life.
Kanokon sequel, make it happen, XEBEC!
And let the MC kid show even more how gay he is? He'll never have sex.
I don't know how much things have changed since the late 90s (TV anime sure got more prudish) but I remember seeing all sorts of fanservicey boobs, butts, and sometimes vag in Kadokawa's Shounen Ace around 1999/2000. It clearly wasn't porn like the manga in this story, but it was highly suggestive and sexualized... and really, just fine for a teenage audience.
This comment its a bit retarded, this is porn, doesnt matter how you disguise it. It should have an adult content label.
Just label adult. Done. If it is hentai it is adult.
If it is ecchi it is not adult but teaser. This has exploding vaginas in it so it is adult.
Let's face it, I can download any amount of hardcore high-quality russian child porn whenever I want and fap my balls out, and no one will give a fuck
until your friend comes over and tries to get on facebook. then he'll want to know ALL about it.
see: Monthly Champion RED
"instead of banning unhealty porn for kids, they should create healthy porn for all kids. lets face it, kids have seen porn even before the internet."
They already do, it's called Playboy.
...anyone who considers light nipple showings and the EXTREMELY RARE vagina shot "porn" hasn't watched some serious hard throat fucking...
which is clearly what you want youths to think a healthy sex relationship looks like
Yeah, because manga is so much more harmful to minors than nuclear radioactive contamination and wars over territory.
Priority fail.
Ughh... Korean quality comment...
i take offense at that statment.
ok this manga looks awesome, I need to get it.
i want to as well!! but i cant god damn find it
Yeah it looks like it was banned before anyone was able to scan it upload it online and translate it
You could read it if you are over 18
I'm sure you have some misunderstanding about the Tokyo ban...
find find find find it!
im not sure u understand the word ban
Awesome, dude made 'pets' out of those sluts, including the loli.
This...is non-ero? Jesus, it's pretty damn hardcore. Though the last comment does have a point...
I have to agree that this should be slapped with an 18+ sticker (along with To Love-Ru). Not banned.
Some fanservice in regular manga is fine. In teen-oriented stuff, even some nudity and sexual themes, because let's be realistic about who is reading it. But in this case, I agree with the common sense reaction in Japan. That's clearly full blown ero-manga. This isn't a ban on all manga like this. It's not saying you can't express these things. It's just saying... "hey... that's porn, so don't sell it like it's not." I'm cool with that.
Of course, kids are going to get their hands on some stuff like this anyway. But there's a difference when you're not officially condoning it rather than saying "yeah, it's good for anyone."
At first I was like "what, this isn't that bad... there's guro and shit that's way worse."
Then I realized this is trying to pass as not-eromanga hahaha.
They should start by banning to love ru
looks like quality reading material..
i mean fapping material
Trouble Darkness gets approved but this doesn't? Talk about hypocrisy.
Why haven't someone OVERTHROWN that old fart yet!?
He recently turned 80!
That's because Ishihara also reads to love ru darkness...
He sympathizes with the principal.
The expression "too big to fall" is very appropriate here.
Appears to be a fun game, I might like to see more of this manga sometime. I wonder if the bans that are being put in place will end up increasing the value of the banned art work...
nipple piercings are rare in ero manga. I didn't expcted to see one in a non-ero manga.
I think the published forgot a +18 sign on the cover :p
One of these days, all the people Ishihara had wronged will come howling for his blood.
Karma!
Nooo!! damn Tokyo. That is all so delicious. :/
I think the government and activists are asses what fucking right do they have to say what we can read and see we have our own fucking minds don't we. We don't need them deciding for us because its something they them selves deem bad. Leave it up to the parents, not A group of them to decide what there children can read, see, watch. If i want a porno guess what I'm getting one and if ya come up into my house you gonna get stabbed and if you come in as a group you gonna get shot as simple as that.
Hypocrites at best. Busy-bodies who are nosy in what folks read in comics and manga but at the same time crimes happen and they brush it mostly under a rug!
Japan should NOT be copying Western Countries. I wish Asians would stop running after "the man" in some bizarre form of "acceptance". Newsflash, they will NEVER accept you.
So stop licking and eating their boots by damaging your own products. Does Japan even see what the average American/UK thinks of them? Yet Japan keeps butt-kissing everyone now?
WTF.