Opponents of the US military’s Japanese bases have been crowing over the announcement that all US forces in Japan will be curfewed as punishment for 2 of their number gang raping an Okinawan woman with the belief that they would be safely on a US base in Guam by the time cops acted.
Approximately 40,000 navy and air force personnel throughout Japan have been indefinitely banned from leaving their bases late at night.
As the troops involved in the rape were not actually stationed in Japan, the curfew also extends to US military personnel who are just visiting Japan, the first time such a restriction has had to be enacted.
However, as a temporary measure which will at some point probably be rescinded without change if only to appease local entertainment businesses (seen in the video above already moaning about the loss of business), there is not much optimism that any long-term improvement in relations between bases and natives will be realised.
Whilst there has been some relief expressed at the fact police actually managed to arrest the pair before they escaped onto a base, there has been outrage at the fact it appears they planned the rape in advance in the expectation that they would be able to get out of the country before their victim could go to police.
According to their investigations, the pair had booked into a local hotel for a one night and were due to fly to base postings on Guam on the day of their arrest, having apparently planned to rape their victim and then escape to a base on Guam in the expectation that Japanese police would have extreme difficulty in securing an extradition under the circumstances.
They both returned to the hotel after the rape, only to find police waiting for them.
The method they secured their victim – they approached a random woman at night and greeted her with “arigato!,” which she ignored, prompting them to chase her down and throttle her into submission – has also provoked much disgust.
One of the pair admits both men participated in the rape, whilst the other still maintains he was in his hotel room when it took place. Police recovered articles of the victim’s clothing from their room.
The timing of the incident has proven devastating – even as police were moving to arrest the pair, base authorities were chiding protesters for flying kites in the hopes of discouraging Osprey flights, but by the end of the day were themselves being savaged by the prefectural governor for the depredations of their soldiers.
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If what they are saying is true about these dirtbags planning the rape and escape ahead of time it would be in the best interest of the US to wash their hands of these two filths and let Japanese authorities prosecute them for the maximum sentence. Hopefully in a maximum security Japanese prison.
When they finally get out they should be made to do all the "bad time" lost in the Naval Prison at Portsmouth Va. and then a Dishonorably Discharged.
These two, if guilty are the worst form of cockroach in uniform there is
As a former US Marine who spent time in Okinawa (Camp Hansen) myself, I agree with you. Let those bastards rot in a Japanese prison.
How about the uncovering of a police office who killed females and ATE them?
Cannibals and savages in uniform. Maybe all soldiers should be required a standard psychology tests before they wear badges of protection.
You are there to serve and protect the public. Not to prey upon them. When those in uniform do this they become no better than the criminals and violent ones themselves.
Can law-enforcement even be trusted anymore?
I will say that if they were/get released to the military, there is no saving them. Other servicemen look down on people who make the Corps look bad.
They better pray the Japanese keep them.
40 000 members stuck in their base at night because of 2 idiots... think of all the pissed off members if they ever get their hands on these two.
They will envy Private Pyle for the few love taps he got from his fellow recruits in 'Full Metal Jacket' if any of the allegations about them plotting this beforehand is true.
11:38 Serves you right, bitch lol!
If I was the Commanding officer at the base I would have all 40,000 men and women beat the living hell out of those two because I am sure everyone is not happy being stuck in a Navel base for very long time from what I hear it sucks.
All the USA military posted in Japan and in Korea are pigs and total trash. They cause nothing but issues, fights, rapes, violence, and ruin any areas they hang around drinking and prowling for girls.. it is a major problem and they move in packs like dogs when they do this. Because of them, a lot of clubs and some izakaya joints have banned foreigners in my area which is annoying. If you live here and have to suffer with the issues they cause you would feel exactly the same. Good riddance, keep them locked up once the sun goes down and on the base.
12:12 Anon: hope 11:38 Anon find where you live/
12:49 Anon: I think it's a good idea because as what another anon said before they'll regret and possibly in a lot of hurt for pissing off the rest of the 40,000 personnel there. It's like a chinese proverb where you kill one to warn all others. If they don't do something like this, the other personnel will think "shit, those guys raped a girl. They tainted us, hope that doesn't relate to me..." instead of "I'M GOING TO KILL THOSE FUCKING BASTARDS FOR RUINING MY FUCKING NIGHTS!!" at least that's what I think.
Even my friend, who is a military wife in a non-okinawa base, has been struck by the curfew. She's not happy about it, either, but... hey. At least this shows that everyone is taking the situation seriously. It will likely make it a bit more difficult for anyone else who might plan the same thing to actually follow through...
On that note, I still don't like the idea of "punishing" the lot for a few idiots.
I am going there for two weeks and I am PISSED!
"Soap party" a.k.a you put a bar of soap in a sock and then you and the rest of your squad dishes out a deserved amount of punishment. i havent given one in about 2yrs.
12:41 lol how does it feel like to be a bitch?
>11:38
lol how does it feel to live in poverty, scum?
lol, im glad 11:38 anon is going to be stuck on the base. Don't need another Sancom tard on the streets raping bitches
The soldiers themselves do not care for their reputation among the locals, and the forces certainly won't ever look bad to the majority of US citizens no matter how many women/preteen girls/babies the soldiers rape. The average dumb patriotic drone citizen will only ever view it as an isolated crime committed by an individual. No stain on the corps at all.
Why do you think the other servicemen would care about some local woman when they don't even care about 19000 of their fellow servicewomen being raped by fellow soldiers every year?
There is no respect for women's dignity in the armed forces of the US at all. Their colleagues will shrug it off with a "so what?" at best and applaud them for it at worst. The only ones who care about such incidents are the higher ups who have to take politics into account, though normally incidents like this wouldn't pose any problems for them at all; we have to thank the bases issue that they're taking it serious at all.
You think the majority of US service personnel aren't like that? Well I have to disappoint you, those who condemn such behavior, even including those doing so anonymously in comments on news sites, are certainly NOT the majority. If they were, something would have begun to change by now. Decent soldiers may have become much more vocal lately thanks to the internet but in fact their numbers are shrinking more and more. Blame the demographics that result from continuously lowered recruitment standards that are barely able to maintain desired troop strengths as is.
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tl;dr: They'd have nothing to fear from their fellow servicemen.
They(US soldier) could learn something from SNAKE(Metal Gear)using large box to hide from Japanese cop and kidnap their victim put her inside the box.
Knock her out cold and stuff her in a locker.
"I ain't responsible fer notting!!"
or throw chaff grenades if something goes wrong
For some reason, you said "maximum security prison," all I could imagine was kind of spa.
You must be thinking of Swedish maximum security prisons. From what I've heard Japanese prisons are not someplace you'd want to be.
come get arrested in the philippines bitch. 'll stuff you in jail like sardines in a can
I've been there. An average, isolated detention camp. Totally livable even if not the cleanliest or spacious of places. Nothing compared to the gulags of the Soviet era.
@12:11 Does your mom & dad know you're on this site, kid?
Was there once, laughed at what they thought was 'tough'. Lotta asian bitches upvoting this hoping to think they are tough haha.
Serious LOL here people. Come to Pelican Bay if you want to see an actual prison.
I will agree to this when japanese police start doing the same to their own rapists of helpless japanese girls who are preyed upon every other day, instead of letting them off with a slap on the wrist of 2-3 years because they were 'drunk'
If japanese police and media had the mouth to chase after every one of their own rapists with the same attention they give to US soldiers, they would have much less social problems. Of course, they are like children and blame all their problems on 'koreans' 'chinese' and 'not any of us, no NEVER'.
Fucking 5 year olds need to be treated like one.
Hmmm so much denial...
LOL why not back up your shit?
>Minimum< sentence for rape in Japan is 3yrs *cough
Only if they are convicted fully of the charges....and those convictions many japanese weasle out of thanks to victimizing the victims again and again in the court rooms.
I like how you think. It's so convenient and ignores important details to make yourself think what you want to see.
You say that while conveniently ignoring the fact the victim in this case gets antagonized as well, and also believing the hype that said bias from a fraction of people somehow magically turns rape convictions around in court, all the while making excuses for not knowing the actual common sentence for japanese rapists, thinking servicemen somehow get it worse (which, in my opinion, should actually be the case).
12:17 LOL desperate enough? Sarcasm doesn't translate to an arugment btw, might want to tell your parents to teach you that.
Yes and even when convicted japanese can get an early probation if they scrub red paint on one wall of the cell and scream "YAMATO!" while doing a headstand. Also every time they shit without flushing their sentence goes down by two months while the poor hairy barbarians have to clean it up.
*I like how you think.*
Those two are such a disgrace. The fact that they planned it ahead of time is just disturbing. Makes me wonder how many victims in previous countries these two have left behind.
I think its more that they planned to hook up with a women, but not going well they ended in a situation that became rape.
Don't automatically believe what is being said. The woman in question could be lying (yes, women do lie about being raped regularly if someone would get on their case for having sex with X person), the 'planning' thing could be a load of bullshit, etc.
Unless they have a witness that says that he overheard the men planning to rape a woman, I'd be skeptical at best.
Hell, it is also possible this was a classic case of "shit, what did I do? I WAS RAPED!"
Fucking US people, they are the moss fucking rotten people and country one earth, lets nuke the fucking assholes!! The world need to beliberated from them nauseating cockroaches!
That's not going to eliminate bad people being in the world jackass.
Fools exist regardless of where you live or what culture you're born into. That being said, anyone who talks about nuking men, women and children, and that their own culture is superior enough to make that call, is included in the list of fools. But my guess is you're just trolling anyway.
Anon 10:01: Then you can only count one country on that list...guess what? The U.S.!! They didn't talk about it, but they sure did it. Actions are louder than words.
It will eliminate the worst kind, those that want the world to bow to them , invade contries, proclaim themselves the world police, so yes, the world will be better without US SUCUM!
Bad troll is bad.
and thus, he valiantly ended both trolls.
-Miroku 1:32
Bad comment is bad.
Bad troll comments are bad.
thee is no need to have troops stationed all over the world ...th u.s. and every other country should just take their soldiers home...
Japan actually cannot have a their own army. They only have a small defense force for self defense. Hench is the reason why US has troops there.
It also serves as a force to intimidate china. Chances are... China would actually invade and take a certain island by force if the US isn't stationed nearby.
It's complicated...
Lol. Someone needs to brush up on their history and look at it without bias. Then again I wouldn't expect someone who would make a comment like that to do it anyway.
Actually the JSDF is approximately the 5-6th largest and best equipped armed force in the world. Moreover in the event of a war the country could easily mobilize a full scale military complex. It might not be the scale of the IJA or even the modern US army, but it hardly counts as a small defence force.
This is how national armies should stay, anyone who knows a little about history and economics (and isn't a complete idiot) spending vast resources on defense far in excess of what is needed is indicative of a collapse of civil democratic authority in favor of a militarist regime. A strong military, as history shows us, is a dangerous thing because it starts to influence politics significantly and remove power and authority from the civil government. Japan out of all countries knows this well, and that's the primary reason why it still sticks to the constitutional article which limits the size of their armed forces.
>Japan actually cannot have a their own army.
right - because the americunts scumbags are still invading it
America is made up of every race on the planet. Therefore if you want to nuke us, you must nuke yourself as well.
Not to impugn the character of those who serve with honor and dignity, but most people join the military either because they're too under-educated to land a higher-paying job, or because they want to kill somebody and get away with it. It takes a certain testosterone-poisoned personality for one to even want to get into that line of work to begin with, so it isn't all that surprising that so many servicemen possess a criminal mindset. You know, street gangs like the Crips and Bloods have a presence in the military, too. The military is run like a prison, where the inmates have deadly weapons. They're hardly representative of the general American population.
The world needs to liberate from you -_-
Lumping every Americans together...might as well nuke the entire planet.
Hoo one more fanatical Chinese!
The only good part in his commentary, in a nuclear attack probably die too!
Maybe not immediately, but a painful cancerous degeneration due to radiation and climate change .. the best chance will die of hunger ..
@Tuor - Never said it was a continent. I was pointing out the region that 08:45 left out of their reply.
Central America is a region, not a continent.
XD. According to anon 9:16 we only have 6 continents rather than 7. Someone needs to look at an atlas.
08:45 21/10/2012
Hahaha, hear the moron, go back o school if you believe this, , but chances are you had mornic teacher if you are from the US, althout in Canda theres this misconception your refer to as 2 different continents
So according to this do we have the continent of central America too?
What you speak of is another misconception, the same as how you call yourselves "American".
The real fact is that its one continent and it has always been, the supposed models that wnat to divide it in 2 have been pointed as wrong and as mere misconception multiple times, the real and official statement and generally accepted its indeed ONE FUCKING CONTINENT:AMERICA
As always who do you think come up with this stupidity??? Guess who??? DARE DATTTA??? Yes, this stupidity is essentially taught in the US and Canada, while in the rest of America is correctly taught that its ONE CONTINENT.
FYI, there is no continent called "America". We have SOUTH America and NORTH America, and only those who live in the United States of America have ever been refered to as "Americans".
you're funny
@08:45 - No love for Central?
Are you retarded, only retards lump together AMERICANS,
I WOULD NEVER EVER lump together Brazilians, Mexicans, Canadians, Chileans, Peruvians, etc, to the likes of the US people.
Americans are ALL those in the FUCKING WHOLE CONTINENT OF AMERICA, not just your nauseating kind moron.
Oh wow, jealous much? :D
Willing to bet most of the people posting above this are all American trolls. :) I hate human beings, they're the evil ones... all of them.
If it wasn't for AMERICA, Europe will be speaking in Russian right now!
If it wasn't for AMERICA, Europe would be speaking in Russian right now!
The people of the UK hating Americans is a gross overstatement. Sure most people in the UK have extremely low opinions of American intelligence just like many other places around the world, but they don't "hate" Americans.
you must be american if you dont know that many people actually hate america for real.
Indeed. What do they expect with all the shit they do around the world, trying to own the internet, mass spying schemes, barbaric atrocities like this, its moronic reatrded people, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
of course all these other hick countries hate america, we'll kick their asses lulz.
@08:48 bragging about your ability to "kick their asses" is probably one of the reason why they hate you... just so you know, British government brown nose America probably because they are scared of your military, yes... but majority of British citizens think majority of the US citizens are dumb shits (and yes, your comment further confirm that statement). we arent scared that US will bomb us, cause that would never happen, UK got US's dick so far up their ass that they will never fight. but british people still hate you...
Bring it BITCH
Seriously? Look at the UN "peacekeeping" armies and their sex for food scandals all around the world.
Proof that there are more cockroaches that need extermination by US. Doubly so because they are living a delusion that they are not cockroaches.
U.S. soldiers tend to be untrained in the arts of social behavior because of their lack of interaction with the opposite sex and don't know how to deal with emotions, that's why we see things like the torture of Iraqi in prisons, the rape of children and women and mental breakdowns after they come home.
They get no social training whatsoever, they get trained to follow orders, regular citizens learn to judge for themselves, US soldiers get told what to do until they snap.
It's not just US Soldiers, pretty much every army is like that.
10:03 - No, they're not, but they have an awfully frequent habit of instilling a superiority into members of the armed forces that make them think they can get away with shit that no average Joe on the street would ever consider pulling. 9/10 times you hear of something like this, it's someone society put in a position of "authority". Teachers, military, police... they all seem much more likely to suddenly forget they're the same as Bob the produce guy, but with a badge or similar pull.
The army isn't there to teach young men morals. They are supposed to learn that in the first 18 years of their life. The sergeant is not your mom, he is your boss. Or do you expect your employer to teach you how to treat other people in non-military careers?
That's utter bs, US soldiers have a higher average education than the rest of their country. Conscription was let go of decades ago.
I don't think Sacky has the vaguest clue about PTSD, or the qualities of various armies. He's probably not aware of what the Sudanes or Russian armies are doing for one, though they're under much less pressure.
Oh well, at least he's not a vicious idiot.
10:03
LOL sacky and other half-baked anti US cunts just got collectively bitch slapped.
Most people go to co-ed primary schools, high schools and universities so those skills should already be in place to some degree before entering the military or the private sector.
All military organizations, not just the US are guilty of atrocities at some point in history.
Our media is just more open about exposing it to the public than others.
Not true. A soldier has a strict Code of Conduct to follow. Even when you're "Off duty" you are expected to follow the Code of conduct.
It boils down to what you think you can get away with and what you know you can get away with. If you break the Code of Conduct your CO can make your life hell if he chooses to. These two clowns were obviously stupid enough to think they could get away with rape and if they are handed over to the Us, the CO has to save face and bring them up on charges. Chances are he'll look the other way if some of the unit wants to beat the hell out of them. So long as they can stand in court.
@10:03 Excuse me, did Sacky just get bitch-slapped by your comment?
LAWL
Sacky, the military is not there to teach civility in the lower ranks, they are taught to do one thing and one thing only, the art of killing some other idiot in the enemy's military.To quote Patton: "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country." The military in essence is there to do several things, these are kill and break things, that is all and they do that rather well. Whatever civility they had is knocked out of them in training because you really cannot get someone to kill without screwing with their head, that's part of the reason most are 18-20 year old, they are easy to manipulate and most think they are invincible The problem with the US military is a lack of professionals there, most get out when they can. The brass needs cannon fodder so they allow freaking gang bangers and dirt bags to join. They use to be flushed out but since they need solders, that's all they get therefore it led to these two fucktards thinking they can get away with it like they can back in the hood..Hope these two get the full experience of prison life....too bad it's not a Turkish prison...
@Sacky Preach it!
If they planned it, they shouldn't have gotten caught. While any crime is disgraceful, they were navy men(yes?), their failure to commit the crime without escaping, is bad in and of itself. Either point of the crime or their failure leads to same result "What a couple disgraceful dumbfucks."
You must be under the delusion that all Navy personnel are like Seal Team members. Many swabbo's are just as dumb as these two idiots.
Convict the two in US courts. With sufficient evidence, they will get harsher sentence in US prisons.
But if japs are going to play smearing everyone else for this, they better be ready for the consequences as well. They have no moral standing and are too small-eyed to look beyond their petty feelings. People who have missed half their work days have no right to criticize someone who showed up for work all the time but happened to get an order wrong one day.