Hyouka Finale Excessively Beautiful

Of course it's not easy. The prices they sell their DVD/BD for is enough to raise eyebrows.

They price it that high because fans are willing to pay it.

@Yuri: That's correct.

I've been buying the Blu-ray volumes as they are being released.

series like Hyouka are expected to sale 15-20k
LOL.

the "genius" forgot the most important angle, what DVD sales are supposed to actually cover =
the production costs the studio still owes (since they produce each episode at a loss).

its not a magic "for KyoAni they automatically have to sell this much" number.
they have an amount of money to make back, THAT'S what determines if they are selling well or not. that's the number they have to hit.
not some arbitrary "15-20k per DVD".

they owe X amount per episode.
if each DVD has 4 episodes on it, they need to at least sell 4X. and it should be noted that 4X rarely equal 15-20k copies.
15-20k copies equals "they did insanely well", not "barely made costs".
in other words, KyoAni didn't make back costs on K-on. they made costs and then a shit ton of profit on K-on DVD sales.

in summary, how many DVDs they need to sell per volume to make up X costs depends on how much they spent AND HOW MANY EPISODES THEY ARE STICKING ON EACH DVD.

your average series needs to push 3-5k every ~4 eps to break even.
because 3-4 eps/DVD has long been the standard release format, thats why every know-it-all-anime-fan throws around the 5k number for DVD sales.
and that's why its commonly perceived that breaking 5k is pretty golden already. it's not magic, its just plain math.

on to Hyouka, it's pushing 9-10k for each DVD selling TWO EPISODES EACH.
which means they're pushing 18-20k every 4 eps.

so unless KyoAni spent more than 4 times the amount of your average series per episode, which is pretty unlikely, they're more than making their money back on Hyouka.

15-20k sales is required to break even? Nearly 700% above the Manabi Line? Thanks for a great laugh there.

I do hope it sells enough to get a couple of OAV/Movies. I wouldn't object to an original direction S2 but overall S1 was everything I could want. Beautiful and touching.

Oh look at this. People pretending to be industry experts.

I bet you read that article from ANN and considered yourself to know everything about the ins and outs of anime production and its business model.

@anon 09:49

Stop trying hard. Go browse /a/ and troll KyoAni threads there.

" series like Hyouka are expected to sale 15-20k at least for their target audience and considering their production values, less than that is below average or a failure sales-wise independently if they series itself was good or not or if you liked it."

Proof or GTFO. Show me some figures or you can't explain anything. Stop trying to make an argument when you don't have solid facts.

I can tell that you are pretty much ignorant unaware that LN sales and other merchandise account for income itself.

Seriously go back to /a/ [boards.4chan.org/a/]

Its so funny to see all the idiots here that fail to understand whats being told LOL

So many idiots, go back to school, like user above said, it all depends on the series and they all have different circumstances.

FOr some series is enough do do from x to x amount when for others that same x amount would be a total failure.

This is like Atlus celebrating 200k sold of Catherine, can you imagine the likes of GTAIV/V MASS EFFECT 2/3 or maybe a FINAL FANTASY produceers being happy with 200k??

IDIOTS!

The amount of sales needed to brake even will always be different form series to series, and even if they do brake even imagine if for example the next monogatari series ending up selling 15k..coming from 40k+? Even if they brake even can they call it a success? NO, it will be a huge failure that could probably halt further projects, after all fucking corps and capitalism is all about profits in the smallest time possible, do you guys think they will waste time with a series just to break even? NO, they want to make stuff that makes them big profits in a short time, countless anime projects have been doomed because of this, many series DO BRAKE EVEN but they NEVER get a second season or any other project because its not profitable enough, studios instead try new stuff with better potential.