US Internment Camps “Human Rights Crime of Century”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Sep 8, 2012 19:49 JST
- Tags: Gaikokujin, History, Image Gallery, Military, Photography, Politics, USA, WWII, Wyoming
Rare colour photographs of the captivity enjoyed by Japanese-Americans in WWII thanks to the tender hospitality of Uncle Sam have been causing much controversy amongst Japanese online, with many keen either to burnish their victimhood or praise the relatively humane nature of “the USA’s concentration camps.”
The newly published photos date back to WWII, when the land of the free was indiscriminately locking up those of its ethnic Japanese citizens it did not send off to die fighting on the European frontlines:
Some 110,000 Japanese-Americans, most of whom were American citizens, were forcibly imprisoned in a series of “internment” camps in desolate locations under military guard from 1942 onwards, on the basis that they were all possible spies. Canada also operated similar camps.
The US government issued a formal apology for their treatment in 1988, and has paid out over a billion dollars in reparations to its victims. Germans and Italians were not subject to similar imprisonment.
The photos, by Bill Manbo, are published in an anthology entitled “Colors of Confinement: Rare Kodachrome Photographs of Japanese American Internment in World War II.”
The topic arouses a certain amount of indignation amongst latter day Japanese, not that their own nation’s ghastly wartime treatment of non-Japanese in any way compares favourably:
“As expected of America!”
“The greatest human rights violation of the 20th century!”
“Actually some of them look quite happy.”
“Vivid kimono they had there, really nice to see colour photos like this.”
“Beautiful kimono! And good physiques on those wrestlers.”
“None of these people would have been able to afford kimono if they had stayed in Japan, most of them were just poor farmers there.”
“They are wearing them wrong anyway, more like yukata.”
“Why release them now? They are just trying to whitewash the camps as somehow being ‘humane.'”
“The real issue here is that they just let Germans go about their lives.”
“Looks more pleasant than contemporary Japan at any rate.”
“These aren’t Japanese, they are nikkei Japanese-Americans!”
“Even today Japanese-Americans are as anti-Japanese as Koreans.”
“Who cares about this stuff! Spread more pictures of them bombing us!”
“America is a military nation, not a Christian nation. You’re nothing th”
“This is just propaganda. Japanese should never forget they had all their property seized and after the war were subject to massive discrimination.”
“Go and learn about Unit 731 and lieutenant general Shiro Ishii.”
“And what’s wrong with trying to stop the spread of disease?”
“How Japan was treating its prisoners of war:”
“The 442nd was America’s greatest military unit ever and won more medals than any others!”
“Just looking at the wealth of the US at the time, you can really see why Japan was beaten.”
“Those who couldn’t stand having all their property taken and being locked up as enemy aliens could always go and fight on the front lines in Europe.”
“This kind of horrible treatment is a real issue. Japan was feeding and treating its captured enemy soldiers properly, they just thought the nori was black paper!”
“Japan’s US and European POWs were nothing but skin and bones when they were released…”
“You can’t compare POWs to civilians!”
“And most of these prisoners were American citizens!”
“Even Japanese, soldiers included, were starving at the time…”
“Of course, they just neglected to record the horrible conditions of these internees!”
“According to a book by one of the guys in the 442nd, the internees each were mandated to have a meat ration of at least 220g a day – Japan was fighting an ultra-wealthy nation which even gave its prisoners the equivalent of a steak at a family restaurant each day…”
“Seeing how differently they treated their Japanese citizens to the ones from Germany and Italy infuriates me, but compared to how the Nazis were treating their prisoners this is heaven.”
“Fancy those American brutes not setting up gas chambers for them!”
“Japan needs to set up these kinds of camps for its Korean citizens.”
“They treated Japanese internees humanely, whilst Japanese were making their foreign prisoners eat wood…”
“This is pure racism! Filthy Anglo-Saxon American brutes ought to grovel on the ground in apology to the Japanese!”
























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wow japs are way more beyond hypocrites...
nanking massacre in china, japan invasion and under rule of korea (lots of documented rape & massacre in that history), ww2 massacre in philippines, the rest can be found here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes
oh i luv history
Yeah I'm not defending what the US did but “The greatest human rights violation of the 20th century!” is a bit of a stretch.
Pretty much, hypocritical bull shit when the Japanese employed auschwitz like conditions for their prisoners.
We basically segregated them, building normal communities..
From the looks of those Photographs, the Japanese in those Camps were living better than our US soldiers at the time.
But it is the noise I would expect from an Ishihara supporter.
Japan! The biggest hypocrite of the World since 1945!
11:31
HAHA great point. Concentration camp my japanese whore's ass.
I think the US's greatest human rights violation in the 20th century was the IRS...
Every country did its fair share of human rights violations. Some are just better at hiding them... >.>
Japs don't hide them, they cover their own eyes and pretend it never happened, while everyone else saw everything.
I think the Nazis have a big edge in that. What with turning people into soap and lampshades.
Um, correction - they DID use corpses of tried prisoners.
It wasn't propaganda.
They produced soap from human bodies in Gdansk (Poland). IPN research concluded that they (Nazis) didn't used bodies of killed prisoners in their "experiments".
And I assure you: Germans had enough war crimes even without this particular example. Joseph Mengele - ring any bells?
War-time propaganda to dehumanize the Germans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_made_from_human_corpses
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_lampshades
Typhus was a big problem at the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhus
The Nazis actually draw the line at large scale live human testing of biological weapons. So Japan's still a contender.
I don't think that post referred to the use of human remains but what happened to the people that were seen as enemies of the Nazi state (or just disposable). After all, which part of the process is the more inhumane?
Sarcasm and hyperbole doesn't translate well.
Funny how 2CH don't even take their comments seriously yet SanCom just boils over every time a few lines get crappily translated. Makes me wonder how hypocritical people can get.
Oh and before some douche who can't speak a word of japanese comes in and claims he knows the truth behind the real jap mentality, I've been a gaijin in japan for the past 6yrs, fielded in politics and economics and I absolutely respect the people. So rage on, it's plain amusing to see : )
Are you an idiot. 2chan is FULL of sarcasm.
16:46
Mmm, those delicious asspained tears...
"I've been a gaijin in japan for the past 6yrs..."
BWAHAHAHHA pathetic outsider thinks he knows japan after spending measly 6 years in it. Typical gaijin mentality thinking they know how a place works. This is like monkey claiming to know people after living in a town for 6 years.
02:58
Good to see the monkey show up
04:18
You japanese? I like how you think 6 years as an outsider anywhere makes you wiser about japanese than a 5 year old japanese kid. That statement just broadcasted your childish ignorance about your REAL status in the eyes of japanese.
You really don't know anything about japan. I can just imagine how japanese people look at someone like you.
Trust me, retard, these particular Japs are deadly seriously about the crap spewing out of their mouths regarding right wing nuts, tatoos, barbarians, otakus, and the like.
Sadly, most of that stuff on 2chan isn't sarcasm.
Yeah, some of the poster on 2Ch are kind of retarded in case you haven't noticed.
You are a Japanese girl?
They are incredibly like koreans, sometimes worse. Whenever they bitch about koreans I find it incredibly amusing to hear their impotent cries.
Meanwhile so many korean men are fucking japanese girls. I can attest to this from experience.
Virgin Anonymous, claiming he had sex with Japanese girl on internet.
Yeah I think what's happening in Gaza and Israel is a lot worse, it's literally a Holocaust all over again :/ But you don't hear it on the media anymore...
LOL is srs
^ clueless dupe of propaganda
Wow I had to comment. WTF.
If any dumbass actually thinks gaza is a holocaust, they need to check themselves. You are welcome to your own opinions, not facts. For your opinions to have any weight, it must be based on facts.
regardless of the victim. it happened in the past. if it is ongoing to this day, then yes it is a problem.
and why the hell are the "victim" japanese in these pictures celebrating or is that just me?
im here at euro, have a chinese co-worker, met his grandfather, grandpa told me story how his father and 2 sisters got raped and killed and how he and his mom got out of nanking, oldman still hold a grudge abd this was like 3 or 4 years ago!
Don't blame him, I would too.
Japan has admitted and apologized no less than 55 times [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan], including from the emperor(s), but without explicitly detailing every crime committed, Korea and China simply don't accept that the apology happened.
@01:24 Definitely true, and Korean and Chinese politicians have brought up the Japanese atrocities purely to rally citizens behind them, as a rather tasteless hatemongering political move to make themselves more relevant.
But while prime ministers have been decent about addressing the atrocities, it's still rather problematic that the Japanese government and people continue to deny this stuff ever happened e.g. textbook revisionism, censoring of works that detail Nanking, insisting that Korean comfort women were willing prostitutes, etc. It'd sort of be like if much of the American public, despite the government's apologies for internment, generally agreed that internment didn't really happen or wasn't a big deal, and schools never taught children that yes, America too screwed up big time in terms of human rights.
How should they compensate? They paid South Korea money, and suggested they pay money to all individual victims. South Korean goverment wanted to use the money to build up the country and that's where they went. Think it was only some years ago this was revealed to the South Korean public.
Furthermore, China and Taiwan refused monitary compensation.
As far as the Yasukuni shrine goes, people seem to forget that there are normal soldiers and other people there too. Just as in my cemetary back home, there's a rapist buried, now that shouldn't stop me from visiting.
I'm not saying Japan is in the clear, we all know what they did and it was freakishly horrible.
Nanking was an atrocity from Japan and I wont deny that, but Japan weren't the only dicks. The communists and republicans agreed to fight together but the communist party wanted the republican party to be destroyed so they didn't show up to help defend the biggest city in China.
The republicans, when they heard of this, burned every single scrap of useful land and demolished as much buildings as possible before fleeing, leaving the civilians to fend for themselves.
Then when the Japanese arrived and seen that the city was worthless, let their soldiers completely loose on it. All dicks. Japan did the worse damage, but all dicks.
The Chinese government and Taiwanese government still owe the people of Nanking an apology. Japan gave one, even if some right-wingers deny it, the sane ones did apologise.
@imyou:
except the japanese then go and commemorate the generals/soldiers who died to cause these things.
since you like to use wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasukuni_Shrine#Enshrinement_of_war_criminals
People need to educate themselves before repeating myths as fact. The revisionist textbooks [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Society_for_History_Textbook_Reform] do exist... and they're soundly rejected by almost every school in Japan. Saying that Japan still denies their war crimes in schools is like saying that American schools all teach creationism instead of evolution.
Time heals those wounds; the people who remember will eventually die.
This is well understood by every government in the world. It's what Japan is using here, it's what the US is using for its Asian interference, it's what both Koreas are using with respects to its unified history, and it's what China is using with respect to Tibet.
But perhaps it is best for humanity. We're terrible at making effort happen and these issues take years worth of research to arrive at any passably neutral, informed conclusion. Maybe it's just best that we bury everything under secrets...
Sancom haters see only black they need thir fucked up hatered.
Of course it was a traumatic and horrible thing that was done, and not easy to forget, holding a grudge against people who had no control of those other peoples action, or were not even born yet is not beneficial to anyone, though it may be self destructive.
Most of the people who ordered or participated in that massacre are probably dead already.
Not surprised he'd hold a grudge. That's pretty damn traumatizing. Forgiveness has to go both ways and the Japanese still haven't even admitted, let alone apologize and compensate for it.
They say time heals all wounds, but there are some wounds that are just too severe to heal by time alone. Especially within a lifetime.
These vague Japanese apologies are actually non-apologies. They're apologizing for the war-dead in general, at the same time denying specific atrocities like Rape of Nanking ever happened.
It's as if the US apologies for Japanese killed, yet deny dropping the atomic bombs.
These aren't apologies, they're rubbing it into victim's wounds.
Why should your friend's grandfather accept their non-apology when his family died at Nanking, and they deny it ever happened?
I honestly wouldn't blame the countries and their people who were wronged by Japan for not accepting the apology. The atrocities of war run deep and through many generations. It's hard to forget.
Regardless, I don't think these photos highlight what the Japanese would like them to highlight. These photos don't make the camps out to be the worst places in the world that text books and other historians would like people to believe. Maybe that's because you wouldn't expect prisoners to be smiling?
Personally I like the family in the American fashion. They're really cute.
Of course the people who were injured by these atrocities are angry.
But they're only going to be as happy as they want to be and being angry at the japanese seems to do it for them. There is no point for the Japanese to continue apologizing.
The politicians on all sides are simply using the tragedy of these people for their own advantage.
They gotta.
A relatively short amount of time without freedom is infinitely better than actually going out there risking their lives for the war, no?
Yes or no.
The war actually lasted a while and it's not that soldiers on both sides immediately surrendered because they thought they would be better off in POW camps. Crude comparisons are crude.
Definitely agree, but you can't help but notice that the American treatment of this-- a formal apology, tons of reparations, and teaching schoolchildren how horrible the internment camps were-- is a huge difference from Japanese treatment of their atrocities-- denial that it happened, removal of all references from textbooks, and blaming the victims for "agreeing" to be comfort women.
It makes one a lot easier to forgive than another...
they look awfully happy tbh
That's why all the Gulag, Batan and Auschwitz prisoners are all laughing in photos too.... right.
You make the best of your situation, even if it's pretty shitty.
There are degrees of shitniess. You don't see live Chinese experimental subjects of Japanese bioweapons smiling.
There's the little issue of physical discomfort. You see evidence of that written all over the faces of these Japanese victims of "Human rights crime of this century."
america basically pulled the japanese-american community together... then they threw a party.
what's not to be happy about?
This is the sole reason why Japan is trying to whitewash the Nanking history portion in WW2. Since the Chinese and koreans won't accept the apology, Japan has to either ignore it or just state one line of history about it. Ask any japanese exchange students about this and you'll see a giant "?" above their head just like in metal gear.
I suppose when you got neighbors like japan has, even the most sincere apologies are meaningless. However, japan shares equal blame in that they are not particularly mature or adult like in their attitudes either.
Sort of like asking any current mainland Chinese about things their government has banned. While the Tian An Men Square is politically lensed by the west what one Chinese citizen expressed her thought about it was scary. You don't get that sort of vitriol in a free information society.
At least with China you can see them after the current regime is gone acknowledging their past.
Sadly it's not called that.
It's paraded around as PATRIOTISM in most countries.
Yes you do, it's called nationalism and it's happened in every developed country to date.
Sankaku Complex seems to rely A LOT on opinions generated by an online collective such as 2ch to produce articles such as these. Please note that 2ch is an online web board frequented by MILLIONs of people on a weekly basis. What do they do? Post their opinions about anything and everything. Trolls and pro-Japan nationalists are scattered all over the place, in pretty much the same fashion you'll find 4chan defensive of anything American.
The fact that online opinions suddenly constitute journalism is beyond me. You might as well ask other Internet collectives such as 4chan Redit, and Youtube their "take" on this "issue." Don't be surprised what they are going to say for the "Japs" in pretty much the same way they said for those damn "Yankees" "Barbarians" or "evil Koreans."
Simply put, topics such as these on the Internet tend to bring the worst out of anybody, and don't have a place in a news site/blog that is supposed to talk about the latest trend/topic/show from Asia. This is old news and its best not brought into debate.
Also, I wish Sankaku were to re-frame from quoting opinions generated by anonymous 2ch-ers. Opinions generated by anonymous users tend to be nasty and are not worth reading.
Sometimes minority comments are not reflective of people as a whole.
Sometimes, said people are such that minority comments are but a tip of the ice berg that expresses a piece of their real intentions.
Japan belongs in the latter category. If you are actually a real asian, you would know this/
bandwagon argument is nonsense . What japs did to chinese has nothing to do with what americans did with japs . Of course to be fair it would be better to be in US concentration camp as japanse than being in Japanese concentration cap as american during that time .
w/e Japan started the fight and America made them regret it.
well... at least they got what they deserved
History is cool, but only when reality is part of it. Sound like Japan is teaching BS in their schools if their own population does not know what happen in WW2.
also refer to unit 731..... live experimentation
the US made a background deal with them aswell..... both sides have done wrong
background deal that would put such knowledge into right hands who could develop countermeasures.
knowledge is knowledge. US did nothing wrong in using these scientists for their own ends, basically turning their dirty knowledge into a weapon against such atrocities and using medical knowledge gained from them to ensure CDC and G2 knew exactly how to act in order to spare pain and develop medicine and vaccine instead of poison.
Idiots who naively think and take in only face-value facts need to understand deeper implications behind actions of a nation state.
...ummm, ookkkkkk, i don't believe you
You fucking bigot. I suppose you think German Americans are responsible for the atrocities the Nazi party committed during WWII? Or Muslim Americans for the attacks on 9/11?
These were American citizens that had their land, their property, and their rights taken from them without any due process. And that's really all there is to it, end of story. The atrocities that the Japanese military committed has NOTHING to do with this, and it sure as hell doesn't make Japanese American's hypocrites.
This is one of the most embarrassing infringements on the values we supposedly treasure as a nation, and it's just sickening that there are still people trying to defend it.
First, the people that were interned did not lose their land or property. When they were released, they were allowed to return to their former homes.
Second, they were afforded due process under the laws of the time.
Third, while interred, the internees were treated quite well and very well provided for.
That being said, I don't agree with the internment process of the day, but that was a much different time. And since then, the US government has lived up to their mistake and, as was pointed out in the article, have paid over a billion dollars in reparations.
Now, as you say, comparing the Japanese internment to the atrocities performed at that time by other nations does not excuse the action.
But in comparison the internment, although an embarrassing piece of american history, is nowhere near as bad as other things that had and were happening across the world at the time.
They did not have their property or lands taken from them. They were allowed to return to their homes after they were released.
They were also well treated, well cared for and had quite a few liberties while interned. College students were allowed to continue going to campus and, if the need was legit, others could get permission to leave the camp. they just couldn't stray too far from their designated destination and they had to be back by a certain time.
Was it a travesty of justice? Most definitely. Was it an "atrocity"? Absolutely not.
As has been said, it was a different time and the outlook was very different from what it is now. People and governments were being super paranoid because of the war and, sadly, bigotry was a lot more prevalent at the time. This doesn't excuse what happened, but it does explain some of it.
Sorry, but you are wrong about property not being taken. They were rounded up and told to take only those items they could carry. People living in apartments lost all their furniture and anything they could not carry aboard the buses and transports used. People living in houses could not pay their mortgages, and thus lost the houses as the banks repossessed them, meaning they also lost everything IN the houses. Many of the people had viable businesses and ended up losing EVERYTHING as the building owner's sold their equipment and merchandise because the Japanese businessman was in a camp hundreds of miles from the business and unable to operate it or pay bills.
They were treat shabbily. Yes, it wasn't as bad as some countries in the world, but by the standards the US prided itself on they were treated terribly. Notice, that while the Japanese were rounded up (and not a single case of espionage was ever proven), the German citizens were not, and there were many cases of espionage proven against Germans in America. It was simply that the Japanese were easy to see and discriminate against.
"These were American citizens that had their land, their property, and their rights taken from them without any due process"
Actually, no.
Their land and property was not taken from them. And they were interned with "due process", only the process at the time was, admittedly, messed up.
Internees also had a lot more freedom than people think. College students were allowed to continue going to their classes and people could get permission to leave the camp. They just had to make sure that they didn't wander too far out of their way on the way to and from where they were going, had to have a legitimate reason for leaving the camp and had to be back in the camps by a certain time.
I don't condone the actions taken at the time, but as has been said, times were different back then. A less enlightened time when it came to bigotry and a time when paranoia was running rampant because of the war.
And, based on what other nations were doing at the time, the internment was one of the least offensive "atrocities" to happen during the war.
Although it could be considered a travesty of justice, people were certainly not being killed or maltreated. They were just being contained.
You also have to give the US credit for owning up to their mistake. They've made a direct, formal apology (although it took a bit too long to do IMO) and, as the article states, have paid over a billion dollars in reparations.
You bigot. I suppose you think German Americans are responsible for the atrocities the Nazi party committed during WWII? Or Muslim Americans for the attacks on 9/11?
so apparently this site takes down comments for no real reason, that's legit yo..
Sometimes they re-appear later, though.
That's what happens when you let rightwing nationalist parties whitewash your textbooks.
“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” - George Santayana
you bigot. So I suppose you think German Americans were responsible for the atrocities committed by the Nazi party during WWII? Or Muslim Americans for 9/11?
So I suppose you think German Americans are responsible for the atrocities the Nazi party committed during WWII? Or Muslim Americans for the attacks on 9/11?
You're an idiot if you trust Wikipedia on controversial topics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52LB2fYhoY
It's more like you are the idiot one.