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China Infuriated as Japan Arrests Senkaku Invaders

An activist fastens the Chinese flag on a fishing boat before departing for the disputed islands Senkaku in Japan, or Diaoyu in China, in Hong Kong

Activists on a fishing boat depart for the disputed islands Senkaku in Japan, or Diaoyu in China, in Hong Kong

China has been infuriated by an unusual display of backbone from the Japanese government, which has arrested a group of Chinese who illegally entered Japan in order to plant communist flags on the Senkaku islands.

A group of 14 “activists” from Hong Kong chartered a ship and sailed to the disputed Senkaku islands, a cluster of uninhabited islands in the south of Okinawa prefecture which are also claimed by China and Taiwan, in the hopes of somehow reinforcing China’s claim.

Activists shout slogans while departing for the disputed islands Senkaku in Japan, or Diaoyu in China, in Hong Kong

The Hong Kong group was due to be joined by other activists from Taiwan, but at the last minute their venture fell apart when the owner of their vessel refused to loan it to them for the expedition.

The 14 activists from Hong Kong made it to the islands and managed to get 5 members ashore before Japanese authorities cut their “protest” short.

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Japan’s coast guard soon came under fire for standing by and letting them reach the island and disembark, but this was tempered by the rapid response of Okinawa police and immigration officials, who promptly arrived and arrested 5 people found on the islands for illegally entering the country.

Activists depart for the disputed islands Senkaku in Japan, or Diaoyu in China, in Hong Kong

Japanese authorities in fact arrested all 14 activists, prompting a demand for their unconditional release from China’s foreign ministry, which regards them to have been in Chinese territory and so illegally detained.

The activists themselves also maintain they were in Chinese territory and so did nothing wrong.

However, for once Japan appears to be having none of it – the prime minister held a press conference in which he said he wanted to “see them dealt with strictly and in accordance with the law.”

Tokyo mayor and prospective overlord of the islands Shintaro Ishihara also piped in, saying they “should be solemnly tried in accordance with the laws of the land.”

However, the coast guard blamed its failure to stop them getting ashore in the first place on orders from on high – “we complied with the government’s overall policy of ensuring minimal risk of injury to either party by avoiding taking any rough measures.”

Activists depart for the disputed islands Senkaku in Japan, or Diaoyu in China, in Hong Kong

Illegally entering the country is a criminal offence under Japanese law and carries a maximum penalty of 3 years in prison, although temporary detention and prompt deportation is more usual, and appears to be what the Japanese government has in mind for them – in fact, in 2004 when Chinese activists trespassed in similar fashion, this is exactly what happened.

Public opinion in Japan appears to largely have run out of patience for both the constant efforts of their neighbours to trample them underfoot and their own government’s efforts to make the process easier by grovelling at their feet, although there is not much expectation that they will do anything more than call the inevitable Chinese escalation “regrettable.”

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  • “Comment by Anonymous

    16:47 17/08/2012 #! Neutral (0)

    @03:12

    Chinese textbooks make great efforts to not face any mistakes they made about their neighbors, or at least not the important ones they are supposed to acknowledge. They love to play the victim, downplay how miserably under performing their whole civilization is, and point weak fingers at other people for their troubles. These little fuckers need another nanking to properly bitch slap them about reality and keep their impudent attitudes checked.

    Their whole history has been one of trying to denigrate other peoples with mouthy attitudes and undeserved impudence, then getting fucked over again and again when those people decided to teach them a lesson in respect. What is even more amusing is how they attempt to portray Genghis Khan, possibly the greatest killer of chinese and someone who wanted to exterminate the chinese off but only kept them around as tax slaves and second class citizens after the behest of one of his advisors, into a ‘national hero’ because he happens to look asiatic. Genghis Khan must be laughing in his grave to another death at such insipid show of cowardice. If you can’t beat the guy who invaded your home, burned your children, and raped your women, then chinese logic dictates they should suck his cock and join him. How cowardly and spineless can these fuckers get?

    ‘10,000’ year of chinese wisdom has much to teach others obviously. Really, in the US the common adjective to describe the chinese, especially from other asians is this: Lame.”

    Lame? Lol, for a guy who advocates another Rape of Nanking, that is the best adjective you can come up with? Let me guess, you are a teenage otaku loser still living under your daddy’s roof.

    And what did China do to Japan for Japan to try to destroy its civilization? Oh, yeah. Nothing. I get it, you have to get on the side of Japan because they produce the hentai that you masturbate to, but use your brain a little and not rewrite history to whitewash Japanese war crimes. In the US, we beat up on otaku hentai boys like you.

  • lol, i’m actually basically being framed by koda for being the one who hacked her personal information and other stuff. oh well, if it’s for a good cause, i suppose i don’t mind though, 😛

    seriously though. **** koda.

  • I’ve noticed that whenever Sankaku Complex mentions something stupid that the Chinese do we get a 75% increase in Chinese webizens. It’s funny because they love to do the “I’m American and hate it here” line followed by the most broken English ever.

  • The funny part in this is that Taiwan has it’s own sovereignty issues with China. Taiwan and China can both claim the Dao Yue Tai/Senkaku islands if Taiwan admits to being a part of China and not a sovereign nation under U.S. protection. Otherwise, I see a three-way tug of war happening for some rocks in the ocean good only for fishing and gas/oil deposits that are supposedly underneath.

  • Japs gonna be China’s bitch soon enough. Senakaku is just the first small foothold on a march to Tokyo.
    Wouldn’t be surprised if U.S. bailed on the japs in exchange for reduced debt from China lol.

  • Why don’t everyone remind the chinese about how their ‘security’ forces couldn’t even keep a blind man from escaping their noose?

    Because stupidity of chinese is too obvious to merit a mention. These childish people need to be bitch slapped some more and learn some respect.

  • Japan: Filthy orientals! BITCHBITCHBITCHBITCH

    Korea: BWAAAAAAA WE MADE EVERYTHING PAY ATTENTION TO ME

    China: BWAAAAA WE MADE EVERYTHING WE ARE THE FATTEST WE ARE THE BIGGEST WE NEVER GOT FUCKED BY PEOPLE AROUND US FOR THE ELEVENTH TIME WE WERE SO GREAT WE NEVER COPIED ANYTHING ANY ISLAND ON OUR MAP IS OURS BWAAAAAAAAA BITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCHBITCH X ad infinitum NO IM NOT CRYING

    …does this sum up th entire east asia region? Sounds like a kindergarten kiddy fight. No wonder they are the laughing stock of the world.

  • I’m from the Philippines and a military personnel as well and we are having the same problem with China in regards with Scarborough Shoal. The territory is ours as stated by International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS) and as provided in Part XV of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,which China is signatory itself. Yet China still insists that it is theirs, a chain of island a thousand miles away from them and only a few hundred kilometers away from us. Their only claim to that island is from a vague 1,000,000 year old map who can easily be forged. China may have a powerful military but it is mistaking if it thinks the Philippine army will be a walk in the park for them. We will fight them cause we know what we are fighting for is right. We will respond to any foreign invaders. I know that many Filipinos would and will not hesitate to die for their country’s sake. They may take Scarborough and held it for a day and maybe a couple of years but they will not reign in there forever. We will defend it no matter the cost.

    I come to this site to know the latest anime news and to no surprise I find another article about Chinese Hypocrisy. Current China = Hitler’s Germany, and like that evil empire from Europe they will fail. Governments whi still acts like cruel empires of old has no place in the modern civilized world.

  • The powers that be in China seem to believe that ANY piece of land that was once occupied by China is still theirs.

    As soon as the rest of the world agrees with them, the better they will be.

  • Only glanced at the comments here from the main page, and it looked like many people are comparing between countries. Perception is based on knowledge of reality, and people judge by comparison because they don’t know or can’t imagine better.

    As far as I’m concerned, all countries are shit. Nobody should feel proud about their country being less shit than another. They should only feel proud when they can honestly say that their country isn’t shit at all.

  • HEY CHINA! No one wants you to turn their country into a CHINA dump (aka GARBAGE DUMP). Why do you think all your youth wanna be Japanese? They are tired of being slaves in your garbage dump of a country! Oh, and your stupid Shaolin Monks got beat down by NINJAS! You killed your own race, you have no right to rule.

  • Japan, a barbaric state. Attached to the United States. Launched the invasion war. The transgression of Japanese nationalism, to the Asian people’s damage, never quell. And national, a nauseating nation, ambitious. Like lee myung-bak said, the emperor should be Kneel to our apology

  • From legal point of view, these islands are definately belong to china. Dont F me. Please check it out in Potsdam Agreement and Constitution Of Japan. They are signed by Japanese Ministers and Endorsed by their emperor. What to argue? The proof is there.

    • postdam agreement was europe, genius. postdam declaration was for japan’s surrender. these islands were NOT given to china. the Penghu Islands where the only islands given to Chiang (not Mao). The Allied nations did not recognized Mao as leader of China but Chiang. Chiang negoitated ALL agreements for China, not Mao.

      • The Potsdam declaration (Which the japanese accepted in their instrument of surrender) contained a clause that stripped japan of all islands outside of the 4 they originally had (That’s Honshu, Shikoku, Kyushu and Hokkaido for the uninformed). This means that the Japanese in fact gave up Senkaku in 1945 (but didn’t specify who they gave it to).

        In the San Francisco Conference, neither Chiang nor Mao’s government participated due to the uncertain nature of the civil war. This is where they divided up all the land Japan gave up.

        Sometime after (I forgot when), the US gave Okinawa back to Japan, which forms the basis of the Japanese claim.

        Except the problem is there is no legal definition of “Okinawa” anywhere when the US gave it back to Japan. Depending on how you argue this, you can easily say it rightfully belongs to China or Japan.

        That’s why this kind of debate is pointless, because nothing is concrete.

  • Why hasn’t the U.N. decided on this yet? I thought all borders were supposed to be taken care of already!

    Either way, Japan’s easiest argument would be “We’re trying to protect the islands from becoming a garbage dump like the rest of China.”

    • I don’t know what’s more amusing, the fact that you think the U.N. can actually do something productive (HAH!), or the thought that any U.N. resolution other than “China gets them” could ever pass with China on the security council.

  • And the fact that these nutjobs were arrested is shocking to anyone?

    I feel bad for Japan. They have a lot of dumb neighbors that need to find better hobbies than trying to claim Japanese islands.

    • japan originally “acquired” the islands as a “gift” from the US after WWII (before that it was understood to be chinese) the US however set some stipulations, such as retaining the rights to resources in the area… if you look closely it’s not a Japan vs China issue… it’s really a China vs US issue… to China it’s about history, to Japan it’s about honor, and to the US it’s (as usual) about oil.

      • Well sadly most people here are uneducated weeaboos so they’ll largely ignore that for working their ego by bashing China regardless.

        It’s basically “B” taking “X” from “A” then giving it to “C”. “B” being the US, “A” being China and “C” being Japan.

        But meh…just another “This land is mine” pissing contest. The only difference here between the Americans and the Asians, is that America lies through it’s teeth about “liberating” countries. Whereas Asia outright says they want it.

    • Me too. Japan cannot possibly be located in a worst place. Surrounded by Russia who’s political system is messed up by 140%, china who claims everything belongs to them and make everything explode, and Korea, who thinks students swimming to the island will make a difference.

      • Yes. Even if japan was genuinely remorseful, their neighbors are too busy raping the corpse of their grandmothers who got raped in nanking to make themselves feel better about everything else.

    • because there are many people in china, and there are many exploding objects in the world, and since china has so many people living in bad conditions, they are as a whole disproportionately exposed to danger. there are not enough mechanical engineers per household in china, however the chinese are crafty and will attempt to fix things that they don’t know how to fix. this sometimes works but often results in situations which can build up water/gas pressure or overcharge motors. now, the ship was docked in hong kong, a big city which is filled with intelligent and educated chinese, some of which are mechanical engineers. a ship is usually expensive, enough so that the owner would probably have enough money to maintain it. a well-maintained ship does not normally explode.

  • Heh…

    Japan is a country settled by China.
    Their First Emperor in his ultimately fatal quest for immortality sent an expedition to find one of their legendary immortals, a holy hermit he claimed to have met in his youth, in hopes of gaining the elixir of immortality… This particular immortal could turn himself invisible at will so the search proved fruitless…

    Knowing if they told him how insane this was or if they came back empty handed they’d face horrible deaths, they planned to leave for good. They stocked up on women, seeds, animals, so they could “Live off the Land” taking years to find him if necessary… And thus the First Emperor also created Japan.

    They braced for a “Revenge Invasion” but his Empire went into chaos after he died, and no one got around to caring about it.

    Interesting, though…

    Most Chinamen I’ve known tend to like large, busty American women if they can get their hands on ’em. If they can afford to eat regularly they tend to get pretty full and stocky. They won’t look twice, not sexually anyways, at any children… Exceptions, but on average, like a body that’ll keep you warm at night and nice jugs and a belly is OK as long as it’s not ridiculous. Even blatant promiscuity/prostitution but virtually none of that underage trade.

    Japan on the other hand…hehehe…

    Like I said earlier. There’s the tribe of the “Huga-Buga” where we like women with nice breasts and hips… And the “Clan of the Cave Pedo bear”…

    Wonder if the “First Emperor” wasn’t just getting RID of some people he could have executed but didn’t want to waste precious seconds explaining why…? And if they did somehow come back with the “Medicine of Immortality” well that’d be worth tolerating them for?

  • god those cheap good for nothing chinese arent happy with the government try to provoke a war and now they are taking the matter to their hands. once again there are exceptional cases but aside them chinese ppl are the worst, NO SHAME.

    • The possession of the island will affect the legal seas for each party, which affects the legal fishing zones. If Japan loses its claim on it, it’s fishing zone will be shrunk considerably, since the islands are quite far from it.

  • When you take over someone elses land, you get arrested for it at the worst. Isint that right China?

    Oh yea this is China, who believes every East Asian country is or should be a part of China, and finds nothing wrong with what they are doing.

  • China uses Taiwan to go after Senkaku, Korea goes after Takeshima, Korea and now Taiwan is bitching about comfort women, all on the WWII anniversary…

    These kinda shit happens every year but this year seems like China can Korea teamed up to stir up chaos all at the same time for Japan.

    Stupid ass Taiwan just being used by China…

  • As a Taiwanese American I’d like to apologize for the Taiwanese activists (tools).

    Seriously Taiwan have no balls to even stand up for themselves as a country even though they already have separate government from China for more than 100 years.
    Besides having their own government, they established their own agriculture, their own economy, their own school systems, everything is separate from Chinese government, yet they are still too chicken to fight for their own status as a country in the world.

    That being said, if you can’t even stand up and say you are a “country” HOW THE HELL are you gonna even claim some land is yours.

    These fucking tools are just being used by China, even though my ancestors came from Taiwan, I am sick of these weaklings and the government that don’t care about anything but themselves, money, and status but are also the most cowardly and stupid people at the same time.

    The rick are too greedy and are dogs of China, those who want to fight for Taiwan’s freedom are too dumb and stupid… Taiwan has no hope…

    Sometimes I feel like if Taiwanese people refuse to smart up it might as well get taken over by shitty China so we can get this all over with.

    • “even though my ancestors came from Taiwan, I am sick of these weaklings and the government that don’t care about anything but themselves…”

      If there’s anything I’ve learned during my years in America, it’s that second generation immigrants tend to think themselves better than their native citizens due to them never having set foot in their native country, when in fact they know nothing of how things work over there or what their governments have to deal with. This extends to ethnic koreans, japanese, philipinos and chinese from all parts of the country.

      • This also goes the other way around. They get a little taste of their heritage (or delusions of heritage and ‘culture’) from people who freshly immigrated, and try pathetically establish some kind of ‘identity’ while claiming it makes them better than Americans because they have ‘culture’, while REAL natives like me think they are pathetic and desperate.

        Remember – ‘Identity crisis’ is a bitch disease.

  • For both China and Japan, the location has great strategic value. The area has been contested for a long long time.

    Describing the Chinese as “illegally” entering “Japan” to plant their “communist flag” is just a retarded attempt of weeaboo Artefact to hump Japan.

    The area is DISPUTED, and people do shit to upset one another, like Ishihara did, remember??

  • Kinny Riddle says:

    Though not shown on this article, there were also activists carrying the Republic of China (Taiwan) flag who scaled the islands, though mainland Chinese media (outside Hong Kong) has photoshopped the flag.

    Increasingly, people in Hong Kong are no longer giving a shit about a few pieces of rock far-off which has got nothing to do with their daily lives, especially when said daily lives and enshrined freedom has been eroded by the PRC government, the de facto “neo colonial masters” of Hong Kong.

    And yes, I do believe Taiwan (ROC) has a better claim than PRC, who doesn’t even have full control of the Taiwan Straits, in which the islands are closer to.

    Secretly, there are even some mainlanders online who harbours hopes that any war which breaks out as a result could end up like the aftermath of the Falklands War (which toppled the Argentinian military junta and paved the way for democracy in that country).

  • senkaku-invasion-force-3

    T-shirt of that guy… Is he a fisher or something?

    Damn, that makes quite a lot of sense. Obviously those guys want Senkaku to be in Chinese hands, they get more fishing territory from it.

  • Umm… How big is China really? Are they so desperate to claim one little island? When there’s 1 billion Chinese? I just don’t see the point, unless there’s some kind of secret on that island or Goku is there training or something.

    I mean people all over Asia live in poverty so what the hell are they trying to accomplish? Shouldn’t they worry more about what they gonna feed their mouths?

    Because I know I’m hungry as hell.

    • [i]I mean people all over Asia live in poverty so what the hell are they trying to accomplish? Shouldn’t they worry more about what they gonna feed their mouths?[/i]
      Island means your territorial waters get bigger.
      Your territorial waters gets bigger means you can get more fish, and etc.
      You can get more fish, and etc means you can feed more people, and price of fish is lower, so those living in poverty can buy it.
      And China has more than 1 billion Chinese to feed.
      So yeah, it makes every sense.

      • Except they don’t want it for the fish, as undeveloped islands 120 nautical miles off the nearest Taiwanese coast aren’t going to help or hinder the fishing industry one way or another. They want it for the oil reserves, and also potentially the effect on international coastal borders.

        • Resources aren’t the only main point but an important one. There is also those countries
          that want maintain geological integrity of the
          region. They don’t want foul China less then a inch from their territory. So the more space
          between them and China the better. And hell
          almost everyone will not want China grab all that space as its a major travel route which
          can be threaten to close or hampered(seriously
          doubt China can monitor all that space anyway)
          if China if gets bitchy and wanted to do a Iran move.

    • No secret. The islands probably have oil and gas reserves under them – in 1969 the UN said as much, and after Japan had abandoned them, they soon took them back (’71-72) as the other two countries started laying claims to them too.

  • There’s A LOT of oil reserve under senkaku island.

    More than Iran. More than Iraq. Thus making this an issue of national importance. It’s also why Japan has U.S. support in this matter.

    So no. Don’t expect either Japan or China to ever give up their claims.

  • Sigh…China and Japan are like children.

    “He took this!”
    “It’s mine to begin with!”
    “Oh yeah?! WELL NOW I WILL STEP IN YOUR PERSONAL SPACE BUBBLE!!!”

    The rest of the World just doesn’t give a fuck.

  • I dunno man, from the way things look, I actually have to say Taiwan has better claim of the island.

    Consider the fact it’s quite literally right outside of their shore line. Way closer than any other Japanese owned territories. There’s also the issue of due to how close the island is to Taiwan, to have it consider to be Japanese owned, would mean as soon as any Taiwanese boat leaves port, they’d already be in Japanese water, and thus subject to arrest. It’s even more ludicrous than China’s silly claim of the entire south sea.

    But regardless, this dispute should only be between Japan and Taiwan. China or Hong Kong shouldn’t have any say in the matter at all.

    • Don’t make the mistake in thinking Taiwan is closer to the senkaku islands than any Japanese landmass as it’s simply not true. The senkaku islands are 120 nautical miles off the nearest Taiwanese coast, and while it’s true that they are 200 nautical miles from the shores of Okinawa, they are just as close to the islands of Yaeyama as they are to Taiwan (Yaeyama is the southernmost island group in the Ryukyu island chain, and is directly south of the Senkaku).

      As the rest of the Ryukyu islands are not only Japanese controlled but also undisputed any proximity argument falls flat, ESPECIALLY since the Yaeyama islands are actually closer to Taiwan than the Senkaku are.

    • Ya… This should be ours since its closer to us than anyone. However, China wants to lay claim to it to because China still think they control Taiwan, (which they dont) and want to control it in the name of CHina.

      Really man… Fuck China.

      • We don’t even have the balls to officially declare independence to the world after so many years thanks to our sissy government. President Ma loves bending over and handing his ass over to China, and the leaders of DDP are a bunch of weaboos who can’t accomplish shit even after they seize power. I’d rather Japan rule us than China or our current/future government, that way, Senkaku Islands won’t be a disputed region any longer.

        • It says Republic of China (Taiwan)

          Courtesy of Ex-President Chen, who wasted public funds on renaming the Chiang Kai-shek memorial to “Taiwanese Democracy Memorial” as though Taiwanse Democracy is dead.

        • 04:35

          And 100% of china came from middle eastern migrants who in turn were genetic derivatives of people from europe and africa.

          Kill yourselves and hand over your lands to your elders ch!nks.

        • @04:35

          I think he’s talking about when you’re saying “fuck china”, you’re not saying it to the government but to what you are fundamentally.

          Also if you think you’re not a commie-lover, you got more in common with mainlanders than you think.

        • 98% of Taiwanese came from China long ago, if you are talking about culture Taiwanese have more of a closer culture to the old China where morals are valued, more than China it self after China’s culture revolution.

          You can be American but still call yourself French, Italian, Russian, Indian whatever if you are talking about your culture.

          Taiwanese culture is different than China’s because China has lost traditional moral values and is run by a government in a form of ass.

          Taiwan’s government sux too, but at least moral is still in effect, and Taiwanese rather be called Taiwanese than to be associated with the shitty Chinese communist government.

  • They probably weren’t actually from Hong Kong and just sailed from there because it’s easier. People from Hong Kong have a higher chance of being sane than mainlanders.

    Also, just as much as I’d expect from Taiwan 🙂

    • pfft…hahaha Philippines? stand up against China? really? Right now they’re begging to suck US cock to protect them from China.

      I’m from the Philippines, and they just brag with nothing to back themselves up. They claimed they drove off the Chinese ships but the actual story is that the Chinese ships took a few steps back because of bad weather. I hate both countries but I’d rather China than Failippines.

      • Try working for a filipino chinese ..owned company

        (no make it more like some native southern chinese just making cash cows in our country.. should war break out they go back to China or imigrate to some other 1st world country.)

        My relative have been working for one for years. No career progress, no promotions.. and she’s not even lazy (Waking up at 4:30 AM just to arrive on work on time.)

        But when a fil-chinese walks in.. a month or two and that fellow is already a manager!

        Just fucking bullshit!!

      • i’ve been to the philippines and there is much racial tension(that i can’t even recognize) because the chinese pretty much financially OWN the place and the native filipinos work all the bad jobs.

        • Try working for a filipino chinese ..owned company

          (no make it more like some native southern chinese just making cash cows in our country.. should war break out they go back to China or imigrate to some other 1st world country.)

          My relative have been working for one for years. No career progress, no promotions.. and she’s not even lazy (Waking up at 4:30 AM just to arrive on work on time.)

          But when a fil-chinese walks in.. a month or two and that fellow is already a manager!

          Just fucking bullshit!^

        • Try working for a filipino chinese ..owned company

          (no make it more like some native southern chinese just making cash cows in our country.. should war break out they go back to China or imigrate to some other 1st world country.)

          My relative have been working for one for years. No career progress, no promotions.. and she’s not even lazy (Waking up at 4:30 AM just to arrive on work on time.)

          But when a fil-chinese walks in.. a month or two and that fellow is already a manager!

          Just fucking bullshit!

    • If the chinese government actually decides to march on the Philippines it could. It’s up to sensible ppl to not make that happen, not infuriated nationalists stirring up shit.

      Hope ppl realize this.

  • At least the article mentions that there’s people on Taiwan supporting Chinese claims here too. That’s information that’s often left out in the attempt to spin the whole scenario as something related only to the PRC.

    The common spin is that it’s the Chinese antagonizing everyone else, but the reality is that from the East China Sea throughout the South China Sea, there’s a cluster-bump of claims and counterclaims between South Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, and the rest of SE Asia.

    These kinds of arrests aren’t unusual for the Japanese, or anyone in the region for that matter.

    Every other week, it’s some one arresting someone else’s fishermen or protesters. South Korea’s President Lee Myung-bak went to visit some islands that Japan claims as it’s own just last week. Where was Japan’s “backbone” then?

    Everyone’s waving “Ancient” maps around, plus everyone and their mother has some sort of “internationally accepted” treaty that they point at to justify their claims.

    Research some of the history here, and you’ll find that everything from treaties after WWII, to UN agreements that almost no one has completely ratified (Usually the parts of the treaties related to territorial claims are untouched.) are brought to the table. It’s ridiculous, and a minefield for any nation to sift through. (America being one of those nations that’s trying to tiptoe through this mess. Its allies in the region often have territorial disputes with each other. So America has to avoid supporting any claims to avoid looking like it’s favoring any one ally over another.)

    Curious to see how many of the responses here understand how mess up this situation really is, and how many instead decide to jump on the much easier, “China SUCCCKKKSSSS” bandwagon…

  • These Chinese imperialist like to expand their territory to sustain their booming population. Not just the Senkaku island, also the same for Spratlys. All those neighboring countries beware!

      • Nobody in china back in the 1500’s expected that they needed to mark every island they landed on in the surrounding seas in the case that 500 years later they might need to defend their claims against other countries.

        It has nothing to do with population. (And honestly, there’s a reason why those islands are mostly uninhabited, because they’re impossible to live on. ) China is doing this for the same reason that Japan is arresting people on Senkaku, because they claim it belongs to them, and no regime on earth, no matter what it is, would ever voluntarily give up a claim of their territory for free.

  • News flash Japanophiles, the Senkaku Islands never really belonged to Japan. They were taken by Japan in the late 1800s, then taken by the US after WWII. After WWII the US government held onto them until they gave back most of Okinawa to Japan. The islands were given to Japan to govern, but not to own. That’s why China has such a big issue with this.

    • For people who take it from the beginning that China’s a fascist state intent on land-grubbing there’s just no convincing them to hear the other side of the story. And every argument you make sounds to them like denial and anger.

      We got human rights problems? Sure. Does that have anything to do with territorial integrity? No.

      For the record, like in the case of the spratly islands people are still trying to solve this diplomatically (the PLA does have the capability of marching on the Philippines if it wanted to, it’s not that hard figuring it out), and it’s real funny seeing ppl around here doing absolutely nothing constructive and shouting out for war.

      • [quote]the PLA does have the capability of marching on the Philippines[/quote]
        But it doesn’t have the capability to deal with the diplomatic fallout. Marching in foreign sovereign territory is what most people would consider, an act of all out war.

        If China is willing to do that over a bunch of dead land, then why wouldn’t they invade your own country over meaningful things like industrial complexes and resources?

        Chinese leadership may be unscrupulous, but they are not stupid. They are not going to ignite a world war over nothing. Besides, the propaganda worth of the situation is far too delicious.

    • That’s like saying nobody is allowed to be activist for anything else because Somalia is under anarchy.

      Feel free to try to convince protesters, any protesters, that they should stop whatever they are doing and support causes you think are more important instead.

    • no these guys arent activists. chinese ppl never do anything other than for money. they most likely got paid to plant that flag there by someone who could profit from it. money is everything.

    • Well, I am from Hong Kong and I personally don’t like these guys and don’t support for what they were doing. I do agree with you statement that they should focus more on other issues. However, It is unfair to say that they had done nothing about China’s human right issue without doing a little research. They do actually worry about it, protested againist it all the time and get arrested by the Chinese Officials all the time. They had tons of “crimmal records” and got locked up a few times already. I don’t know how the hell you can get +0.8 up vote for condemning they had done nothing about China’s human rights (while the fact is opposite). Seems like some people are just too eager to judge some other people even they don’t know their names. Btw, who the hell Im kidding with? It is San Com.
      I know it is confusing for other from around world to understand our realtionship with China. Hong Know activities are generally againist the Chinese communist party. Some of them may agree with the Chienese official that Senkaku Island is historically belong to China (not the party). Some of them don’t. I personally don’t know and don’t care about this issue. But on the other issues, for instance, the human rights and the educational reform in Hong Kong which is simply trying to brain wash our kids. We have been postesting and trying to force the local government not to comply to the central government.
      P.S. to prove that you are wrong about they are just Chinese Official hugging old farts who don’t care about human rights, check out the following online radio station they work with. This station is banned by Chinese government and can only be accessed outside of mainland China. (not all of the shows are politics related but I doubt how many of you understand Cantonese, Im probably wasting my time to explain all these to you guys. ) http://new2012.hkreporter.com/

      • HK people LOOOVE to bitch about human rights. Nah, scratch that, they just couldn’t stand the fact that that mother Britain left them behind in 1997 to the evil communists (brainwash at its finest). Want evidence? A shitload of Hongers ran away to other countries in 1997. Honger activists are little kids constantly crying for candy, the more China gave them, the more they whine. But you know what? Keep protesting, that’s what protesters do in the west. It’s not gonna help the issue, but it could relief your superiority complex.

        BTW, those “activists” enjoy participating in any and all events. They appear during protests against human right issues, they appear as brave Hongers sticking flags on islands, etc. They bend over for anyone who can shed enough cash to hire them. Essentially, they’re nothing but a bunch of greedy gold diggers. Human rights? Fuck that, if you pay me $500 an hour to counter-protest those who protest human right issues, we’ll gladly do it for ya!

      • ^ This.
        A Hong Kong citizen who knows what he’s talking about.
        Also A LOT of mainlanders don’t agree with the party government too, however human rights wrongdoings just aren’t something you correct overnight.

    • Can’t agree more. With most people in Chin they a;ways point out the tiniest flaw in other country and they ignore their own huge problem. If someone points out about it they cry from anger.

      • I hope you’re not American because USA really don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to picking out flaws of others (PLENTY American commenters proved that point on Sankaku) and throwing tantrums when they’re critisized in general…hypocrisy, double standards and ignorance sure doesn’t cherry pick.

        I’m British, we have many flaws thanks to our greedy ass government and we ain’t no holy figure when it comes to being elitist. But even we don’t hold a candle to Americans in having a superiority complex, especially American media which seems to remind itself how great the USA is COMPARED to every country out there every bloody minute.

        • That’s a silly ad hominem. Weather the parent poster is American or not doesn’t mean he agrees with US policies.
          Sure, the majority is poorly educated and brainwashed, but they also have plenty of smart people who are critical of their government.
          It’s not hypocrisy to rebuke others for a mistake you are doing, if you acknowledge that mistake as such.

          And no, I’m not American. I’ve never been on US soil and I don’t have the slightest intention to put my life into the hands of a police state oligarchy.

        • It’s called patriotism, which countries have to varying degrees. Unfortunately, the more standout your country’s history is, the stronger it tends to get. China for example is riding its wave of political fervor which is backed by its sizable military force. They can say whatever they want, its not like others are willing to stand up to them on the same footing.

      • Son, I am from Hong Kong and have you been reading our local news since 3 years ago? No human right violation going on? I have been out posteting since I was 16 and until I moved out of that shit hole. Shit are getting hot in Hong Kong and people get arrested for protesting now. Not to mention the excessive force from the police (which we used to love) and 10 times concentrated papper spray on postesters ( kids and elder people included). They also limited the protest area and make the protesters squeeze into a tiny area like cattles waiting to be slaughtered. No actualy guman right violation my ass. I dare you to fly all the way to my house and say it to my face.

    • high time china gets reminded that they can’t play high and mighty and claim half of the world as their property. all countries violated by china’s excursions and hooliganism to territories they claim should band together and form an army.

        • I think he meant that if they tried to be human rights activists in China, they would probably “get in an unfortunate accident” or “disappear mysteriously” by the government. Since the thing on Senkaku is part of “national interests” the government would actually support this kinda of activism. >.>

    • Human right issues are our fucking own business, we thank your for your careness on our living rights but commenting here has nothing to change right? I doubt any of you had really helped a Chinese people? Don’t you fuckin pretend to be so kind about” human rights” and scorning people,the integraty of our land is another right as important as human rights, we fight tyranny as well as invaders, no matter who they are. Years ago Japs had done so much filthy things in China, and today they are still so coward to admit it. I would say you Japs who comments here instead of standing on the island as our 14 heroes are real cowards…fucking cowards…go home and fuck yourselves.

      • Heroes? You call a bunch of idiots who live in the past, cause nothing but trouble, and make the entire China look like a country of morons “heroes”? Seems like China’s standards for heroism are as low as your product safety standards, eh?

      • Your ‘civilization’ has a long and glorious history of being fucked by outnumbered, outgunned minorities along your borders who have turned your ancestors into cum dumps for a long time. Present day chinese are a mongrel race that is too stupid to even understand their own language and needs to simplify it to meet their limited capacity for understanding. Not to mention, people in Indonesia turned your women into whores in 1998.

        Go bitch some more we find your helpless wailing to be very amusing, as does other people of the world. ^__^

      • Do no interfere in our internal right to rape murder and beat our citizens at will in order to maintain our greedy fat asses in power. We are the PRC!

        We will conquer the world by making 3rd rate products cheaply that explode and poison people and the environment.

        We will steal you technology and you ideas because we are too regimented and brainwashed to come up with anything original on our own.

        The only thing original we can up with is ways to annoy the rest of the planet with our infantile behavior and threats.

        You see it’s a genetic flaw in the Chinese character to be like a rude and obnoxious woman until someone bitch slaps us into proper behavior.

        • Gee, because most of these idiots have the power to help with your problems. We all know that people from sancom have the power to do something other than bitch in comments, they just refuse to use it.

          OH WAIT. Most of the people on here couldn’t even afford to get to China, much less improve it’s political situation. Making snide remarks doesn’t help anyone either jackass.

        • Actually Chinese would be happy if people were constructively “interfering” and helping remove the fatasses in power. But idiots who only bitch in comments and make racist remarks are a wholly different matter.

        • 23:09

          See, a specimen called asian specializes in delusional fantasies to comfort themselves from harsh reality.

          Good thing their eyes can’t see too much – but not even that helps their sky rocketing suicide rates because their people can’t deal with reality with some balls.

        • Are you retarded? More than 65% of the trash and pollutions that is in China is from other countries garbage and outsourced factories. Namely the USA…Hell 50% of our (UK) recyling goes out to China.

          Not that China doesn’t have trash problem, just saying that the amount of ignorance regarding trash and pollution ownership when China is involved on this website is stupidly high. Though I really should set my expectations much lower in regards to people on this site.

    • All the above pictures (not sure about #4) are all taken in Hong Kong.

      True story: I got a Canadian Flag pin from Citizenship Canada in a plastic bag that said “Made in China”. Wasn’t sure whether to laugh or to cry.

        • @08:56
          So US is not a civilized country then? I wouldn’t really know since I’ve never been to a US school, but we learned in English classes that American students are required to “pledge allegiance” to the US flag every morning? I never really doubted it since it fits quite well with the wide-spread European image of the average American (i.e. nationalistic nutjob)…

          By the way, Germany does not require an oath in order to gain citizenship.

        • In ANY civilized country, you only have to swear an oath to your country on joining the military or taking public office- or receiving citizenship. If you were BORN there, it’s pretty much an inherent right and an assumption that your loyalty is assured.

    • well… all neighboring nations (North Korea, South Korea, Vietnam, China, Taiwan) consider it China’s property. Japan just tends to assume that China must not have any islandic property no matter what.

    • They’re not shocked, they’re just baiting for a response.

      There’s a reason why that last captain was sent back a free man. If japan did anything more drastic, they’ll get a war.

      Considering the US Pacific Fleet gives Taiwan, a full militarized island supplied by the US, about 6 weeks to survive in the terms of a PLA invasion, Japan’s SDF really can’t do crap about an uninhabited and ungarrisoned is;and.

      Contrary to popular belief, the US Navy is also not particularly inclined to defend an uninhabited island for their old WWII adversary against their biggest trading partner, especially if Japan gave China the excuse of “abducting Chinese citizens on Chinese soil.”

      Mostly because those islands have no oil.

      (Also, this is why Ishihara’s a public danger for Japan. The old buzzer seems to have fogotten that they’re surrounded by countried that’d look for any excuse to invade the shit out of them, and the US would also look for any excuse to not participate after the Iraq debacle.

      A lot of people assume Japan is worth a lot to the US, it really isn’t. The basis of Japan’s downturn is because the US imposed the Plaza Accord on Japan, and now with the DPJ trying to push the US from Okinawa, there’s literally no more value the US can get out of Japan)

    • LOL, Japan was THAT shocked when russian president visited Kuril Islands, which [i]is[/i] russian territory, and periodically THAT shocked when russian coast guard arresting japanese boats for illegal fishing in russian territorial waters.

        • Sure. They’re almost the length of the main islands away from what most foreigners would think of as “Japan.” What I was saying is that they’re not clearly Japanese just by looking at them.

          Though while I think the Liancourt Rocks are more properly Korean due to Korea’s continued expenditure of resources to populate them, as well as their historical population… the Senkaku from what I’ve read seem to have been Japanese, then no one’s, then Japanese again, and only after their natural resources came to light did the Chinese nations go after them. (Is this right?)

        • @13:57 16/08/2012

          While the part about Japan being a bad neighbor is quite correct, you’re being kept in the dark about what Nazi occupation of e.g. Poland looked like, or how well the regime treated its own citizens who for some reason or another fell out of favor. Gypsies, intelligentsia, catholic clergymen, homosexuals, ex-government officials, communist supporters and random mass execution victims were civilians, and most of them have been higher on the target list than Jews. The rest enjoyed their terror raids, forced labor drafts, curfews, rationing of food and commodities, restrictions on trade, severe bans on indigenous language and culture. Quite the holiday, huh?

        • In WWII, German treatment of civilians in occupied countries aren’t that bad, unless you’re a Jew.

          Japanese war crimes against civilians, on the other hand, had been severe, widespread, and against everyone, including its own citizens.

          The worst neighbor award would go to Japan.

          China, at any time of its history, wouldn’t even make the list. The most they’ve ever done was demanding tribute from vessel states.

        • Common misconception about Germany, the Germans were actually quite reliable to work with, they provided support to China when everyone else was afraid of Japan.

          Even during WWII many Germans donated to fund Chinese military, Hitler even wanted to go to war to punish Japan for its crimes against humanity.
          Unfortunately the triple U(UK/US/USSR) tied down German resources and protected Japan, ultimately forcing Hitler to drop his plan.

      • Trust me. If the infinitely evil chinese government wanted to send ppl to the island they’re going to be decked out in full combat ordinance heading a PLA navy fleet. Considering the reknowned capabilities of Japan’s coast guard, it’s not that hard to do.

        The reason they’re not doing that is because both parties think a diplomatic solution is still within reason. Remember that from a chinese perspective the islands were taken by Japan since WWII and they’re not keen on handing them back. But I guess that’s the other side of the story people aren’t so keen to hear.

      • Trust me. If the infinitely evil chinese government wanted to send ppl to the island they’re going to be decked out in full combat ordinance heading a PLA navy fleet. Considering the reknowned capabilities of Japan’s coast guard, it’s not that hard to do.

        The reason they’re not doing that is because both parties think a diplomatic solution is still within reason. Remember that from a chinese perspective the islands were taken by Japan since WWII and they’re not keen on handing them back. But I guess that’s the other side of the story people aren’t so keen to hear.

      • Trust me. If the infinitely evil chinese government sends people to the island they’re going to be decked out in full combat ordinance and heading a PLA navy fleet. Considering the quality of Japan’s coast guard, it’s not that hard to do.

        The reason they’re not doing that is both parties think there’s still some way to solve things diplomatically. Remember, chinese think it’s their territory and that japan hasn’t been keen on handing it back since WWII. But I guess that’s the other side of the story people don’t really want to hear.

  • “Communist flags” ?? thats really disrespectful… btw if you search the news, there is also pics of them planting the flag of Republic of China as well but of coz it wont be included in this post…

    • Um, that’s the communist flag of a communist country in the pictures – China. I don’t see how it’s disrespectful to call a spade a spade. What, are the Communists afraid of being called what they are now? Maybe they should change their iconography, then…..

      • It’s passive-aggressive bullshit to call a Chinese flag a communist flag, as in, “I don’t give enough of a shit about this country to call it by it’s name.”

        Imagine if I were to write a news article about the USA and referred to the flag as the “Capitalist flag”. If you don’t think Americans would be butthurt by that you’re in fucking denial.

        • 13:26

          Well since it’s pretty much how ch!nks like to talk about history in official textbooks.

          Nice try, but I ain’t white. You can wank yourself to sleep thinking I am though….delude yourself just like always ^^

        • 16:47
          The entirety of paragraph two is a cut-and-copy of how stormfront retards like to fantasize and desperately try to come up with shit they can wank their fragile egos to down to the letter. So childish and pathetic you can only laugh at the attempt to troll.

        • @07:13

          The red scheme represents the uprising led by the communist party. It was adopted during the revolution, and used as a national flag till now. Doesn’t make the banner a “communist flag”. Like 02:48 said not likely ppl will understand the difference.

        • @14:13 & 04:00 – the red on the flag represents the Proletariat in Communist ideology. By the government’s own admission, the red of the flag represents the Communist revoution. Read a book.

        • @07:43
          I dunno what little fucker you think you are to be calling me that shit, but those kiddy assumptions tell a lot about who the pathetic shit is here. Also thanks for speaking out on behalf of chinese people, LOL insecure me needed that coming from a desperate racist.

        • @04:06
          It’s real fun playing the humble guy AFTER your original comment which explicitly parades yourself around like you’re better than the average textbook-brainwashed chinese isn’t it? Let’s just be clear on this: I do know more about “chinese textbooks” than you do, and any flaunting or douchbaggery obviously wasn’t on my part.

        • 03:37 what a bitch. You think a foreign-bound rich faggot like you know what it means to be part of common chinese people? Mouthing off to other people as if you know something while real chinese people are working and you are here on a porn site mouthing off on comment sections. Bitch like you lets everyone know, especially ones back home, about how much you ‘know’ china.

        • I see no communist flag here, you must be confusing the Chinese/Taiwan flags with the Sickle and Hammer flag…

          Besides the color theme, they look completely different, so not sure how you are got confused.

        • 03:37 Look at this mouthy ch!nk with their naturalized papers. You mouth off, we can take it away and you can go enjoy your pathetic country for all we care. You are so interestingly naive when it comes to feeling secure about all the wrong things yellow monkey ^^

        • @03:37

          I’m the Anon 03:12, and I find your post hilarious. My post in no shape or form was it indicating that I was getting ‘butthurt’, nor did it show that I was trying to school someone.

          To be blunt, all I was saying was that if you know more about something (i.e. Chinese knowing China), well cool, all you then. Just don’t go flaunting it like your a total badass with knowing more than someone who obviously lives on another continent, otherwise you’ll just look like a bigger dipshit.

          It’s like saying I can totally wail on you in making Sonnets when you specialize in Haiku.

          I’m not Chinese, so I don’t know my Chinese trivia; and even if I DID know, I wouldn’t be out parading that knowledge like a total douche unless I’m enticed to.

        • Hey, you all, do you only know what comunism REALLY is?
          I mean ,not the biased-capitalist-narrowminded’s definition of it but how it was defined by Marx and some other …

          Back to the first statement: China isn’t a comunist country.

        • “Because China’s not really communist in anything other than name.”

          Yet they’re still flying the Communist red flag. If they don’t want to be called Commies, don’t rep for commies. It’s like wearing a swatstika around and expecting not to get punched in the face.

        • @03:12

          LOL textbooks textbooks. Gonna enlighten ME on how chinese citizens get mindwashed in their own commie country that you know so much about, huh?

          Judging from that childish butthurt, I’ve probably lived in the states longer than you. Also on topic: if the economic system might have been communist as well, I wouldn’t be here educating kids, you wouldn’t be getting your playtoy gadgets at your current prices, and you generally wouldn’t know enough about china to post rage threads on sites like these.

        • @starsplash
          Since communism describes a social and economic system, there isn’t really a communist political system. It’s just that a autocratic council system became really popular with communist revolutionaries.
          So, there is nothing communist about China. At all. It’s as communist as North Korea isn’t a heritage-monarchy, official names be damned.

        • Fun fact: Did you know in America, any culture that’s not Caucasian is horribly under-represented? This includes… well, everybody.

          Not expecting American [hillbillies] to under this though.

        • Sorry, our textbooks are not up to Chinese standards.

          We’ll make sure to jot that down in our notes.

          Fun fact: Did you know that America is a nation that’s not made of just one culture, but many cultures? This includes Chinese.

          Not expecting Chinese [natives] to understand this though.

        • @03:12

          Chinese textbooks make great efforts to not face any mistakes they made about their neighbors, or at least not the important ones they are supposed to acknowledge. They love to play the victim, downplay how miserably under performing their whole civilization is, and point weak fingers at other people for their troubles. These little fuckers need another nanking to properly bitch slap them about reality and keep their impudent attitudes checked.

          Their whole history has been one of trying to denigrate other peoples with mouthy attitudes and undeserved impudence, then getting fucked over again and again when those people decided to teach them a lesson in respect. What is even more amusing is how they attempt to portray Genghis Khan, possibly the greatest killer of chinese and someone who wanted to exterminate the chinese off but only kept them around as tax slaves and second class citizens after the behest of one of his advisors, into a ‘national hero’ because he happens to look asiatic. Genghis Khan must be laughing in his grave to another death at such insipid show of cowardice. If you can’t beat the guy who invaded your home, burned your children, and raped your women, then chinese logic dictates they should suck his cock and join him. How cowardly and spineless can these fuckers get?

          ‘10,000’ year of chinese wisdom has much to teach others obviously. Really, in the US the common adjective to describe the chinese, especially from other asians is this: Lame.

        • you do know that China’s political system is communist and that even though China’s economic system is capitalist, the chinese governement still has set so many rules and policies in their favor that their economic system might as well be communist as well?