Medaka Box’s plummeting popularity (at least when measured by online otaku activity) is the subject of some curiosity – “Why is it so unpopular now? It is bursting with moeblobbery just like all the others…”
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I'm surprised no one mention about the animation quality. This show is way below standard of current anime.
If they are going to make fighting/fan service anime. At least reeve up the animation quality. These kind of quality only acceptable on gag/comedy anime.
Go and read the manga, you will notice much better quality on the pantsu shot compare to the anime.
Maybe they're saving it for Kumagawa Misogi and his Naked Apron Alliance...
It'll take too long to reach that part lol
Maybe they are saving the budget for the fighting scenes?
Right now it is on its gag mode, it purposely starts that way then turns around into its true nature.
*Looks at article title, then at screenshots*
Really? They can't figure out why?
It looks like something made in the late 90's/ early 00's. Quality wise. However, that could have been overlooked. If this had a good story, but knowing what the manga eventually turns into. I can't bring myself to watch the adaptation. Even though its during the better part of the series.
If it was made into an anime before the manga went to shit, it probably would have gotten more positive attention.
whats wrong with it is not the annimation if tht was the case cardfighter would be way below its time...
And lack or originality i guess...
My biggest gripe is with the color.
The uniforms don't look at "black" at all...
I've read the manga, I know that it becomes a crappy fighting show
That's basically it.
Actually, I would've watched the anime, but then decided to just read the manga at some point rather than have it spoiled. I don't usually roll that way though.
Well, I WAS gonna go read it, but fuck that I guess...
Anon 04:52 nailed it. You can read the one-shot and the first 16 chapters if you want some fun light entertainment with very good art that looks like it has the potential to develop into an interesting new take on the student-council genre, but then STOP RIGHT THERE. DO NOT read further than the first 16 chapters or you'll regret it.
Seriously. I cannot stress this enough. I LOVED the first part. I thought it was great, it was hilarious. And then they threw it all away. That and they don't even try and explain WHY Medaka is super strong. She can just magically solve any problem that she comes across. It isn't that she had ninja training, or she has special powers, or anything that would at least help make a setting for why she can do stuff, its just because she is perfect. Waste of a potential good story.
It's only crappy if you take it as a "fighting" story.
Virtually everything happening is just another way for the author to facilitate some philosophy or message.
It's more of a drama.
ive also read the manga
story was like shit
but still read it anyways
cuz theres a loli chara in it
indeed. first you got ecchi school drama and then suddenly it changed into shitty action fighting story with its basic formula (new group of enemies, and then each member fighting and bla bla bla . . . )
You can't deny that there are some crazy shit later on, which can be entertaining...
Yeah but I can find that same stuff in other mangas that are actually good.
Lessee
The pacing of the anime is all around the place, it's like a high speed train without any stops in between.
The character designs are way off, the coloring of the chars is ugly as well.
Bland boring backgrounds.
Gainax wasted too much money on useless effects like those in ep 1 with the bar graph, character name boxes; if they had the money to do those they should've used it for something better.
The background music is way too loud, doesn't fit the situation and there's rarely a quiet moment; no added value at all.
The opening is full of useless stuff.
Transitions between scenes almost non-existant.
Toyosaki doesn't fit Medaka; She sounds as if she's trying to sound like Hikasa Youko too hard.
It's almost like the sound director was like: Get me that person who voiced that guitarist chick in K-on and his subordinate got Toyosaki instead of Hikasa.
Gainax really dropped in quality these days..
I agree with their quality drastically dropping.
What happened to Gainax? Their quality was always so stunning.
It's because Gainax's best animators and staff (Sushio, Yoshinari, Imaishi, etc.), also known as Gainax/GEEKS, left after Panty & Stocking. They were pretty much the driving creative force behind Gainax, and most of Gainax's iconic animation scenes were done by them.
Gainax could possibly temporarily recruit some of the ex-Gainax/GEEKS for Medaka Box, since studios often employ staff outside of their own studio, but it's very unlikely.
If someone is watching Medaka Box because they are expecting animation akin to Gurren Lagann, FLCL, etc., they should probably drop it now.
Any reason why they're not working for Gainax anymore?
Some speculate there was discord among the Gainax staff for a while, but no one really knows.
The only thing certain is that they've been removed from the Gainax staff page, and have dispersed to different studios. (Yoshinari is at Production I.G. now, Imaishi formed his own studio called "Studio Trigger", Sushio is freelancing, etc.)
It started from Anno leaving Gainax. After that, they had sort of conflict with him regarding evangelion, thus relationship between him and Gainax was totally ruined.
After that, they failed every single series in terms of sales except TTGL, thus Imaishi left for Studio Trigger, Nishigori did executive director, OP ED directions, editing, key animation drawing, sakuga director and even series composition of Idolmaster and lead it to success. They both left Gainax for their own good, thus Gainax now has no-one left currently.
Well, that's some depressing news.
The reason people are watching Medaka Box in the first place is because of Nisio Isin. The monogatari series was superb but Medaka Box is cat shit.
Honestly, i don't give a single fuck about story or gags or fighting scenes, I just fucking love Medaka as a character. She reminds me of certain Goddess, Haruhi Suzumiya.
thought those were balls on last pic >.>
The eye sees what the beholder wants to see... :3
@Yoshii-kun HIDEYOSHI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uh - no.
everything works in your mind.
i didn't like the manga that much, because it seems like the genre changed drastically from drama to action.
Seems like the mangaka suddenly got a change of heart about his manga
funnily enough the reason it changed from a HS life theme to an action manga was because that's what REVIVED the manga.
the early stuff was getting such poor readership, the series was on the fast track to cancellation at one point.
believe it or not, data suggests the people who liked the manga more after it became an action series far outnumber those bitching about it not being a quirky HS life manga.
To this day I fail to grasp just what Nishio tried to accomplish by serializing a manga in WSJ. It's simply not the right outlet for his type of works. But I understand even less why a writer of his caliber gave in to the Jump editors instead of looking for a different publisher or going "fuck it" and simply cancel it.
I would approve of this assumption if 80% of his chapters were text boxes and chat bubbles even after the fighting switch.
Seriously, the man fills his pages with words upon words, with character faces desperately squeezing in for face time.
It does turn into a piece of crap but thats only if you like how it was in the beginning
Man, the manga sounds like a piece of crap.
Its good until the battles, then its crap =/
I read it until the whole "not-equals" arc, then I gave up on it because it went from "somewhat interesting" to "crap on paper". What's worse is that after that its popularity seemed to skyrocket ...
omg boobs and fighting.
You would be amazed at how easily some people are entertained.
I loved it until about 20 chapters in and then said fuck it.
Basically once the student council is formed it loses all charm.
The manga actually regained some of it by ending half a month ago (an actual, full ending), but then it inexplicitedly continued with some new family-marriage arc out of nowhere, killing any stock of good will it may have built up.
Thanks for the info. From what I take this series is a piece of shit, both manga and anime.
Because Medaka is undeveloped and annoyingly "perfect".
Seriously. Fuck man, change her name to JESUS, the show will be the same.
Even people who love fanservice and/or moe can't stand a character like that at the front. Granted, if she is shown to not be perfect later that may change. But fuck man, I wanna throw her off a cliff and see how she manages to not die.
exactly my thoughts, characters are only really likeable when they have flaws
Thank you random anon person.
Hell, I would take her being a huge bitch over what we have right now. At least then we could complain about how much of a bitch she is and how much we love to hate her.
Or something to that effect.
that's funny, so how is this different with protagonists that defeats god-like enemies? sorry but the story ain't like a wimp getting strong and all that shit. that kind of start is used WAY too much
Depends... if the protagonist defeats god-like enemies since episode 1, without any development to reach the power level to do so, it gets boring really darn fast.
Probably not the best example, but imagine Dragon Ball where they beat the crap outta any and anyone that dares challenge them. No exceptions. Without any struggles; just smooth outright beating. Yup, wouldn't have made it far.
Charging one attack (all the while screaming) for 7 consecutive episodes is another problem too.
You're applying basic principles of shounen plot development to a manga that (initially) wasn't meant to be a basic shounen title at all.
Initially was the key word there. Problem now, is that initially is out the window from what im hearing as it sounds like they changed it to a simple fighting story down the road :(
Its because the wimps beating the god at least you know how they came to be so strong.
Medaka is literally like: IM MEDAKA LOL and then she beats whatever she is fighting.
At least in generic shounen shit they have the decency to pretend that there's a chance the protagonist might lose. You know, try and keep it a little bit interesting. Sometimes the protagonist actually loses! Before coming back stronger than ever, but still.
Medaka Box doesn't bother. Medaka is categorically invincible from day one, people within the show acknowledge that she's invincible, and there is never the slightest bit of drama or tension in this rubbish. Worse than that, she's not even depicted as being wrong in anything. She ruins the entire show just by existing.
It seems you completely missed the point then. Medaka Box did not start out as a fighting manga, and the fights were not what solved the conflicts the student council faced (the first fight with the ex-Kendo club doesn't count since that was to establish Medaka's character as the strongest and to introduce her unique quirks). The manga was on a good way to basing its whole appeal on presenting situations where the other, imperfect student council members were required to cover for her flawlessness in areas where it was actually disadvantageous. It was really promising.
Of course that was before the manga ended up becoming generic shounen shit regardless, with opponents that are actually stronger than her at the time they're introduced.
She has flaws. Discovering them is kind of the entire long-winded point of the series.
Which is boring.
As boring as you are~
.. And this is precisely why otaku will despise the show.
They can't obsess over a perfect, flawless girl who will never go all tsundere for them.
NO WAIFU = NO SALE
All those claiming to read the manga.. I call bullshit. Failure plot and artwork never stopped a title efore.
Riiiiight.
It can't be as simple as us not liking the story because we think its bad.
That would be impossible. As for failure plot and artwork, with a poor reception, do tell us of these many manga/anime that survived this kind of reception. Or are we just listening to a fan who refuses to hear anything bad about a topic he might like?
I honestly think its the latter.
Medaka's perfectness actually becomes an important plot point later on after the comic went further and further into becoming a self-parodying meta-analysis of battle shonen manga.
I understand where you are coming from, but for me it's quite the opposite. It's actually refreshing seeing a main character like that, instead of the usual "Flawed" characters.
Though since I haven't read the manga, I have no idea where it will be going, and if she will actually go through a change at one point. Having her stay all madoka jesus like for the rest of the show will be boring as hell.
the manga goes to the point her haxxorness becomes a plot twist and battles are there to be won.
Where she becomes weak and then strong then mind break then weak then strong then kick ass then shows a lot of pantsu shots
Uhm.. Did you even watch this episode?
As it clearly shows that she isn't perfect.
a) Despite her intelligence, she occasionally doesn't see the obvious. Like the fact that the second letter and new shoes were an apology by the girl that she confronted earlier, and the fact that this wasn't done in person was because the girl was too embarrassed about her earlier actions.
Her dressing up as a dog is also an example of this.
b) She's got a serious jealousy streak. And is uncomfortable with the fact that Zenkichi and Shiranui are friends. This despite the fact that looks wise Shiranui isn't even in her league. (well, not with the average person anyway, loli lovers are another issue.)
c) She's horrible with animals. While she herself likes them, the animals are scared to death of her, and view her as something akin to Diablo the Lord of Terror. And this tends to make her rather depressed.
Seriously, folks should just view this as something akin to Beelzebub as opposed to K-On! or some other fluffier high school show.