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Japanese are outraged that mere foreigners would dare to criticise their culture of eating live animals after seeing a video of a vivisected squid struggling for life on a plate, even if many of them appear to be of the opinion that it is the very acme of bad taste.

The video behind the spat:

Odorigui, “dancing eating,” is a relatively uncommon form of sashimi in which the animal is still alive when eaten, similar to the better known “ikizukuri.”

The best known examples include various species of squid, octopus, shrimp and goby, which are served live in various stages of dismemberment (or in the case of goby, swallowed whole with a mouthful of soy sauce).

The practice is somewhat notorious for the risk of parasitic infection it carries, although in Japan the animal welfare implications appear mostly to be considered a non-issue.

The video’s original uploader comments that he believes “the sodium in the soy sauce is causing the legs to move and that it is at least incapacitated,” and a Japanese commenter also scathingly comments that a mere foreigner would not know this (evidently not having read the poster’s original comment).

Whether this is true or not, it is clear from other odorigui cuisine that this is at best unintentional and the intent is that the animal be live and moving around on the plate.

Supposedly most of the culinary appeal is from the freshness of the animal’s flesh, but the evident glee which most odorigui/ikizukuri diners display before actually tasting their meal does tend to suggest other motivations are at play:

Predictably, the original response to the video from western audiences was largely one of disgust and outrage at this flagrant cruelty to ika-chans, but when Japanese were recently made aware of this disapproval they soon became outraged themselves (although given the rarity of the practice it is doubtful whether many of them have ever actually eaten odorigui themselves):

“This is traditional. Foreigners, don’t force your values onto us!”

“I agree. But I could never eat this!”

“How pitiful for foreigners to have to deny themselves such a delicious meal just because of religion!”

“People who say this is cruel have had their brains eaten by maggots. Eating any living thing is like this. If you think this is cruel, have some sympathy for the other meat and vegetables you eat!”

“Living squid are gross…”

“Even amongst Japanese I think many would consider this cruel. I wouldn’t want to eat this.”

“Damn Japs are crazy!”

“We should stop this. It makes me feel ill to see it.”

“I understand why people want it fresh, but having its head dance around on your plate and then uploading videos of the spectacle is bad taste. You can’t help but think they are enjoying tormenting it on their plates.”

“Gross!”

“Gross, and sick!”

“Westerners have no right to criticise us! They killed whales just for oil, cats for being black, burned old women for being ugly and Africans for sport!”

“I’ve eaten live octopus on a fishing boat, it’s delicious, supermarket stuff can’t compare. Freshness makes a huge difference to seafood. But I’ll admit, this is gross.”

“Poor Ika-chan. This is a miserable thing to do to it. At least make it into a splendid sashimi display.”

“Looks delicious.”

“If you don’t like it, don’t eat it! Shut your mouths, foreigners!”

[In English:] “I have never eaten this, but DO NOT CRITICIZE other country’s culture. White people eat meat. Japanese eat fish.”

[In English:] “This is not a typical Japanese cuisine. It is a joke in bad taste cuisine of some pervert made​. I am Japanese. Almost all Japanese can not eat that food like this.”

[In English:] “This is the way of eating depending on which it is very primitive and should be criticized.”

“I’d like to try icefish odorigui.”

“This is seriously poor taste. It’s just like playing with your food.”

“They have bullfighting in Spain! Europeans exploit Africans for their resources! America slaughters the middle east for its oil! If you think doing this to a squid is cruel, you have no business living in modern society.”

“I’m Japanese, but this is messed up.”

“I live in Hokkaido and I can’t believe this outrageous stuff is happening in the same place!”

“How barbarous to complain about a nation’s culinary culture. You can really see how aggressive these Americans and Europeans are.”

“This is sick, even most Japanese would get culture shock from seeing it. Some morons are just trying to show their supposed patriotism by supporting it.”

“Delicious. Sashimi is Japanese culture. Japanese who say they couldn’t eat this are just ethnic Koreans.”

“This is how those Koreans eat octopuses. Some ethnic Korean probably imported the practice here.”

“People who say they couldn’t eat this are just ethnic Koreans or foreigners.”

“Overseas they have no culture of eating things alive so they’ll never understand.”

[In English:] “Shit American cannot understand Japanese culture. I like to eat fish arive.”

“I don’t understand why roasting a squid isn’t cruel but eating it alive is?”

[In English:] “No cruelty, such as from a nuclear bomb.”


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    Avatar of Katsura
    Comment by Katsura
    21:40 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eating live animals is certainly cruel, if I aimed to eat something that was still alive, I would kill it, and then cook it before consuming it.

    To eat it while it still lives is nothing more than cruelty. However... There are some very sadistic people here... I would imagine they enjoy this.

    Remember Elizabeth, show mercy even to your enemy.

    Unless they're from the Shinsengumi.

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    Comment by Firetribe

    Eat at your risk. nuff said.

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    Comment by robert
    21:46 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mmmmm yummy

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    Comment by robert
    22:02 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol I got negative for liking seafood.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:19 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    sigh don't bother.. some of sankaku users here can be lulzy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:46 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    I actually like the idea of girls putting live tentacles in their mouths.

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    Comment by entropy13
    23:12 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    In an erotic, or a non-erotic way? Or you don't really care about the distinction? lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:26 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    In an erotic, or a non-erotic way?

    Are you implying there is non-erotic way to insert slimy animal parts into a vagina? I'm curious to know just what other purpose exactly would that serve?

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    Comment by entropy13
    01:58 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Uuuhh, read the post I was replying to. No mention of "vagina" in that post. There's "mouth" however.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:19 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    maybe some of them even put tentacles into their vagina in private >.>

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    03:47 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Think it through, man! They put it in their mouth, then they chew it to mush! D:

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:50 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    That's their petty revenge for the tsunami! Come to think of it, they're cannibals for eating the animals that ate the jap corpses.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:59 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Yeah yer right! The japs sure are barbaric.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:02 07/04/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    @21:50 Wow, you are really, REALLY fucking stupid.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:10 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    @22:02 AND YOU'RE A FACKEN WEEABO!! GO TO JAPAN AND STAY THERE OH YEAH YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND THE JAPS ARE XENOPHOBIC, POOR YOU!!

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    Comment by starsplash
    22:14 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You just prooved his point.

    Now you are fucking stupid

    Comment by Anonymous

    lol @japs are xenophobic. I bet your from a colonial empire yourself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:16 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Japanese can be xenophobic, i went there before, some are nice and open, some don't even want foreigners to be there..

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:19 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    I'm glad to know that the "xenophobic japs" made u laugh @22:14. Btw I'm from America!! Pwning japan since 1945!! A bomb is the A-bomb!!

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    Comment by an orgasmic loli
    22:24 07/04/2012 # ! Good (+0.7)

    I bet anon 22:10 speaks from experience. He probably went to Japan, hoping to experience the otaku culture, but got rejected for being a pasty white person, and is now forever bitter about it XD

    I feel so sorry for him...

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    Comment by an orgasmic loli
    22:25 07/04/2012 # ! Good (+0.7)

    LOL, anon 22:19 is actually proud of being amurican! Land of the gay black people and prison rape, what pride! XD

    Comment by Anonymous

    for someone with 'an orgasmic loli' for username, this guy sure is uppity.

    diff anon btw - i've seen so many white and black guys fucking jap women i lost count and wonder if japs actually have dicks in the first place, maybe trying to compensate by giving their imaginary characters and futanari 15 inch dicks.

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    Comment by robert
    22:28 07/04/2012 # ! Good (+0.7)

    American here i rather be in japan right now. This place have gotten so bad i have to carry a gun everywhere with me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:30 07/04/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    i think anon 22:28 got really mad at orgasmic loli's comment, and thought using the word "uppity" would make orgasmic loli mad too.

    after reading my comment, his face will probably turn red with rage at the fact that i was able to read his emotions like a book.

    this is so much fun XD

    Comment by Anonymous

    lol 22:30 armchair otaku psych
    you just junmped down to same place as them XD

    Comment by Anonymous

    me thinks orgasmic loli kinda failed with 22:30 at hiding behind anon alt...

    XD

    Comment by Anonymous

    Ah, an American. Calling other nations xenophobic. All countries have all kinds so I don't pretend to be speaking about a majority here, but do you 22:19 happen to know which country proposed a racial equality bill in 1919 to the league of nations and which nation vetoed it?
    The answers:
    Japan, America

    And then we had the pacific war.
    Funny how your propaganda machines pasted it as a war to enslave other races when in fact it was a largely successful attempt at removing colonialism from Asia.

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    Comment by Noodlestein
    03:17 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @Robert, Then stop living in shit parts of the states.
    Not saying its any better than anywhere else in the world but seriously, I myself have never had to once consider carrying any sort of protection.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:09 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    I think it's bad to eat those because of the radiation. The good thing is, the jap population is dwindling!!

    Comment by Anonymous

    Ahem "an orgasmic loli", I can honestly say that pedophiles like you are much worse than the japs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:50 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    someone sees sense here.

    +1 internets

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:01 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    How dare you! The japs are much worse than pedophiles like "an orgasmic loli", but pedophiles like "an orgasmic loli" sure is the scum of the universe.

    +1 trolololol for me for every negative number on this post!

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:52 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ei Mr. 21:50, I don't agree with you but I do think that the japs are barbaric. *insert weeabo kawaii smiley here like this: ^_^;

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:56 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol good comment. ^_^ <-- dead weaboo give away.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:08 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    OMG 22:56 you're a weeabo too! Weeabo's UNITE!! ^_^

    Comment by Anonymous

    America!
    America!

    America fuck yeah!
    Coming again to A-bomb Nagasaki!
    America fuck yeah!
    Hiroshima looks really cool now!
    Japanese your game is through
    Coz now you'll be A-bombed by
    America fuck yeah!

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    Comment by PirateKing
    21:54 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Those retards don't understand that animals also have feelings and torturing them for fun is just not acceptable. Seeing stuff like this reminds me of the chinese cunt who tortured a dog to death for fun. It's the same garbage and any civilized country should make this illegal. Btw, I am also against boiling living lobsters which is illegal in Europe and makes one wonder if the other countries who allow stuff like this are just that backwards.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:57 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Eating animals is cruel, period.
    Dead or alive is only a little difference.

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    Comment by an orgasmic loli
    22:02 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Americans and other western countries commit mass genocide of cows and pigs (fourth smartest animal by some measures). Japan commits mass genocide of seafood.

    It's all the same thing. That's why this loli eats no meat! =D (when possible, since living in Japan makes this sometimes nearly impossible)

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:13 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hitler was a vegan too. You're in good company!

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:12 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hitler was God

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:14 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @15:12 Because he was white!

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:02 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    uhhhhh the post is about eating live animals not mass genocide (which involves killing not eating live animals you dumbass)

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:22 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    A self-proclaimed loli? Win.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:34 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @an orgasmic loli

    you don't think Japan is some lala land for otakus and one of the best country in the world do you?

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:08 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Tell that to the lion, tiger, wolves and sharks!

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:18 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    It seems that the modern human is a Scavenger

    Comment by Anonymous

    Eating vegetables is cruel, period.
    They too have a right to live.

    Comment by Anonymous

    vegetables, plants may feel pain too.. since they're living things as well.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:16 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    lol why vegans thumbed this down? you think only animals feel pain?

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    Comment by aaa
    00:15 08/04/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    how the fuck vegetables feels pain if they don't have brain and nervous systems?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:55 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    If vegetables and plants feel pain too, then eating animals is even more stupid than it already is. How many plants do you think that animal had to eat, to provide you with the little piece of meat you have on your plate?

    Comment by Anonymous

    if where being honest here not even all of the animals feel pain. Shellfish don't really have a developed nervous system that can respond to pain...it's really just a muscle.

    Comment by Anonymous

    mollusks I mean not shellfish

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    Comment by Gitami
    09:59 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    EKG testing of plants reveal that they do respond to stimulus akin to fear and pain.

    http://davidsright.blogspot.ca/2007/01/mythbusters-prove-plants-feel-pain.html

    http://www.bio-pro.de/magazin/thema/00137/index.html?lang=en&artikelid=/artikel/04838/index.html [http://www.bio-pro.de/magazin/thema/00137/index.html?lang=en&artikelid=/artikel/04838/index.html]

    Another claim I read elsewhere say this stimulus can stay for up to 3 days. Loosely inferred is if you tear off a leaf, the vegetable will scream for 3 days.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:15 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Gitami

    Yea, you're right. there's a type of small plant here, when you touched it, it responded by closing itself, so i strongly believe that plants are living things(otherwise if they're dead, they wouldn't grow now don't they?) and they may feel pain in someway.I guess some vegans don't want to think of the possibility of plants can feel pain because of they may feel guilt about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:22 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @00:55

    So what you're going to do about it? Herbivores already have the need to eat plants so they can survive, even if we stop eat meat, you still won't stop them from eating plants. So you're going to ask them to stop eating all together?

    Some of you pls just stfu already.

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    Comment by Gitami
    15:41 12/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mollusks... octopus, 9 brains - one for each limb and the head, 3 hearts near each side of lungs and for rest of body.

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    Comment by henwy

    That's just fucking stupid. It's like saying there's no difference to a dog is euthanized by sedatives or whether it's slowly chopped to death in the post from a couple days ago.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:23 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    There aren't difference.

    And how you know that they don't feel pain, How many times you have been death?

    Isn't the same kill an animal for food than killing it for fun, being cruel it doesn't matter.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:32 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I only find this disgusting because I have an invertebrate-phobia that sends chills down my spine every time I see these disgusting creatures. dead or alive, I could not care less.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:48 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    well.. hopefully you asked it whether it wants to become human food or not.. chance are it wants to live, whether we 'humanely' killed them or not.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    22:59 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    i love eating animals. i prefer them dead, but who am i to knock a culture. i don't mind that some asian countries eat dog, but at least see to it that it is done in a humane and honorable manner.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:29 09/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    "humane" as you define it.
    It ain't "humane" just to kill for a meal.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:41 09/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    What? Yeah, it is. What kind of "humane" person kills animals for no reason?

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    Comment by jr2nd
    07:11 10/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @anom 10:41.. "at? Yeah, it is. What kind of "humane" person kills animals for no reason?"

    Chinese.. lol (refering to past sankaku posts)

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:24 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    so it doesn't matter if we eat you while you still alive?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:15 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, since the parasites inside our bodies never ask, I suppose that any other animal wouln't care if you are alive or not

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:17 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    The only anomal who care if thir FOOD id death are the Scavenger

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:35 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    The only animals who do not care if their food is moving around are the parasites.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:24 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    I agree with you.. We should stop eating animals. Eating animals is cruel! Either dead or alive.

    Eating human meat is much more palatable and not cruel... hmmmm... brains...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:31 07/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    you should meet issei sagawa ;)

    Comment by Anonymous

    Rather Jill Valentine. >:D

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:03 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    'Rather Jill Valentine. >:D '

    She looks really delicious btw..

    Comment by Anonymous

    Makes me want to go out and commit murder then proceed to cannibalize someone.

    Then claimed innocence under the pretense of "insanity" and walked a free man after.

    He is my fucking idol.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:25 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    ''Makes me want to go out and commit murder then proceed to cannibalize someone.

    Then claimed innocence under the pretense of "insanity" and walked a free man after.

    He is my fucking idol.''

    He's my fucking idol too for pissing off alot of moral fags. how's that?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:32 07/04/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    I heard that leg muscles of human is delicious as steaks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:31 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    actually human meat is a kind of pork so it's more like ham.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:41 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    You are pretty stupid.
    A big difference to torture and a quick death. It's like saying a puddle is water and so is the sea. Quantity and quality.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:23 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eating them for sustenance is one thing. Torturing them for no tangible benefits beyond personal amusement is another.

    One solves conflict of interests between species. The other is a novelty.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:09 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Torture and it's contemplation seem to be ingrained deeply in the Japanese psyche.

    Still remember the James Clavell's novel "Shogun" where the war lord had the sailors boiled alive as he contemplated the beauty within their screams of agony.

    Bone chilling.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:18 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Except James Clavell wasn't really Japanese, Learning something from one of his novels is like watching a hollywood movie for education.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:30 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    @ Anon 03:18

    Except James Clavell was a British Royal Navy officer who had first hand experience with Japanese torture as a POW for 4 years at the infamous Changi prison in Singapore and suffered greatly at their hands. Read his novel King Rat for some insight.
    I would say that makes him an expert witness.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:37 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have another things to say about this:

    1. He was a POW, almost all POW's were treated horribly in the second world war, even by the Allies at times.

    2. His book, as well as his experience were from the second world war, saying torture is still deeply ingrained(without more evidence, that is) is a bit of a long stretch.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:14 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Anon 03:37 "He was a POW, almost all POW's were treated horribly in the second world war, even by the Allies at times."

    Bullcrap. Death rate for POW camps on eastern front was 35-55% and in Imperial camps it was 25-35%. But for camps with POWs taken in Africa and Western Front it was up to 3.5% for Axis's camps and 2.5% for Allied camps. And bellow 0.5% in British and American camps.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:50 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Death rate doesn't necessarily say something about the treatment of the POWs.

    Take Abu Ghraib as an example, a prison under control by the United States, while none of the inmates actually died, their treatment was horrible.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:45 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't fuck me. Eat animals is part of nature, but if you eat it at least have respect.
    Without torture, without evil, just for necessity.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:51 08/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Say that to lions, sharks, crocs and all other predators - I'm sure they'll all gladly become vegans.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:45 11/04/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    the predators you mentioned above are not moral fags,they won't become vegans.














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