Many Fate/Zero fans are actually happy that the anime edition is censored, so sickening is the guro content from its manga adaptation, with the infamous “organ umbrella” and nude quadruple amputee sashimi scenes all preserved for the exclusive enjoyment of creepy manga fans (or those brave souls who view below).
Some of the manga scenes which were recently confirmed as not having it made it into the anime, even the Blu-ray version (although various corpses and sound effects are present):
Well, read up about the crusade (especially the children crusade) and the inquisition and you will know your answer.
How insane muslims can be, no one needs to explain anymore, I think. But devot christians weren't any better. The only reason why they are now is because the normal people don't believe in their heaven hell bullshit anymore.
Actually the Muslims already had a cultural revolution while the Europeans were busy murdering the hell out of each other. Their understanding of medicine and science was far beyond what the Christians had at the time, and that was before the European Renaissance. It is until, from what I understand it, the fall of the Ottoman Empire, that things turn for the worse.
The only reason that shit doesn't happen nearly as often with Christians is because we went through an Enlightenment and Muslims have yet to do that. They haven't had a cultural revolution that will change things for the better.
Being religious doesn't make you insane. Using religion as an excuse to do things to people you wouldn't normally do is.
Believing that one or more super beings popped out of nowhere to create reality is no more insane than believing reality exploded out of nowhere, or believing that reality was always here, but it merely seems like it came from nowhere; or believing that in reality, there is no reality, and we're only imagining that it -- and we -- exists.
Besides, behind the religious insanity was usually some issue of wealth and/or power that was using the religious insanity as cover.
Being religious is the definition of insanity, you know why? Because true believers have no proof/evidence of what they live their lives by. All through blind faith, that is true madness.
@14:33 O I know the world is mad, and imo I believe most humans are crazy by technical definition on default. But ppl believers or not just living not knowing what is in store for them is not madness, but life, crappy life, but life nonetheless.
Madness is basically someone for example trying to go through a wall, it's just not going to happen not matter how many times you try nor how hard.
Thinking that a God created the universe solves nothing since you just change the problem. Now instead of not knowing where the universe came from you just don't know where God came from.
Believing in something with no evidence is pure madness. Scientific theories about the matter admit that they are just theories, they do not claim the absolute.
And anyway thinking that some being created the universe isn't a religion. Religion is something a lot more specific with set of rules and directions.
They don't just say all this shit probably where created by a powerful mind. They make silly little stories and dogmas and claim them as absolute. A religious God has nothing to do with simply believing that there is some deity behind the cords of the universe.
Quite the opposite. Being delusional is, in fact, considered insanity, when the cause is the patient's brain.
Using religion as an excuse to do things to people you wouldn't normally do is.
Using people is a lot of things, but insane is not one of them. Although insanity and manipulative nature are not mutually exclusive.
Believing that one or more super beings popped out of nowhere to create reality is no more insane than believing reality exploded out of nowhere, or believing that reality was always here, but it merely seems like it came from nowhere; or believing that in reality, there is no reality, and we're only imagining that it -- and we -- exists.
Reality is metaphysical nonsense for "our perception of how the state of matter changes in the universe".
I may be misunderstanding you here, but it sounds like you are implying how mainstream science views the origin of the universe. If you do, then you clearly do not understand anything, because what you say does not remotely resemble any of the widely supported theories.
Besides, behind the religious insanity was usually some issue of wealth and/or power that was using the religious insanity as cover.
Correlation does not imply causation. Anything which causes a large number of people to be susceptible to manipulation is likely to be used for that purpose. Religion can be substituted for ideology just as easily. See: communism, racism, fascism, marketing, etc...
@Jozle
Uncomfortable truth? Getting angry at it is not going to make it go away.
@14:33
And I suppose having your entire purpose dictated by an invisible higher authority you know nothing of is not blind at all.
There is no reliable knowledge about any of the major deities. Everything we know, we learned from mythological texts who have a reputation of being... colored by the people who wrote and later copied them. Let me ask you a counter question. What makes those people so trustworthy that you will define your entire existence according to their stories? Why are their stories any more creditable than any other work of fiction passed as facts?
"Do you even know that you live in such a mad world?"
I try to pretend that I don't.
Oh look you are bashing religions you must be smart. Damn those crazy guys like MLK and Gandhi, who preached those crazy ideas like non-violence, and equality. Trying to bring up religion is retarded. I don't believe in any religion, so I'm tired of how it always has to get brought up. Being religious doesn't make someone an idiot like Santorum.
I wasn't trying to sound smart. It was supposed to just be a funny comment that quoted something cats2 said. And being someone who practices mindfulness, I would never say Ghandi is crazy, and I don't get the correlation between MLK and religion. I'm also not well versed in American history so I don't know if religion was behind King's fight for equality. That said, I also don't know much about Rick Santorum other than that he is one of the republican's candidates for the presidency.
What I do know is that while I may be against religion, people who believe in it aren't stupid. There are many intelligent followers out there. For example, one of the most notable doctors in my town believes in christianity, and my family doctor is Jewish. I may be against their beliefs, and I will tell them outright, just as they tell me their beliefs, but I wouldn't dare call them stupid, ever.
The only thing I ever try to tell people about religions is that they are stories and they should be treated as such. If you follow a religion as a guideline to living a happy life, good for you. If you follow a religion believing in a supernatural being(s), then I'll shake my head. I practise mindfulness, but I am not a Buddhist. I even read stories like Siddhartha, but it's just that, a story.
I don't think you watched the anime too closely then. Remember the first moment when we meet Caster and the tentacles take a random kid. That gave a nice picture. Also the moment when Rider and his master discovered something in one of the Caster's hideouts.
Just because it wasn't on the screen for obvious reasons doesn't mean that wasn't there.
Well i Do! want to see the master and servant to get there asses kicked the manga was wicked sick...disgusting but strangely awesome! to bad it got cut that would hunt viewers in there dreams....bwahahahah....!
hope guro manga don`t go to much in readers and viewers heads...if so
I still wish there was more cock-worm rape. Have them swarm up into someone's womb until they look pregnant, have their belly rippling from the movement, blood gushing from their hole.
I agree. Always had this odd attraction towards guro. That being said, I don't actually go look for it, if it comes, then great, if it doesn't, then meh.
Kony 2012 must have US intelligence agencies getting paranoid/hyper active. Good old social networks able to start a movement of so many people in such little time.
I read about this in the novels but I think that they're better off implying this level of debauchery instead of showing it outright. They can do a lot with sounds, shadows, and the like - whatever we imagine will be worse than what they show.
Its gross but it does seem rather ridiculous, but its the divide isnt it in horror, a mixture of weird sexual shit, psychological stuff and then gore. I personally find the kid stuff kinda gross here , but Berserk is pretty nasty (sure nastier stuff out there) but berserk is also one of the best mangas ever.
this does seem like its being slammed in for shocks rather then depth, whilst berserk and gantz to an extent do it with depth. But yeah after reading Berserk I actually just dont get nearly as phased as I use to. Something about the way he does the stuff in berserk actually like terrifys you he seems to get the balance of gore and horror and psychological effect really well.
Reading the original/manga you realize that they're batshit fucking insane, twisted, and far more EVIL then the anime will ever show you...
In fact the anime just makes them seem obsessive and religious.. Not to mention making the reason for the ceasefire basically turn into:
"They abducted some kids! Stop everything and take care of Caster!!"
Which is just.....sad........
Isn't being religious the same as being batshit fucking insane?
It is...
If you're looking for batshit insane, look in the mirror.
Well, read up about the crusade (especially the children crusade) and the inquisition and you will know your answer.
How insane muslims can be, no one needs to explain anymore, I think. But devot christians weren't any better. The only reason why they are now is because the normal people don't believe in their heaven hell bullshit anymore.
Actually the Muslims already had a cultural revolution while the Europeans were busy murdering the hell out of each other. Their understanding of medicine and science was far beyond what the Christians had at the time, and that was before the European Renaissance. It is until, from what I understand it, the fall of the Ottoman Empire, that things turn for the worse.
what enlightenment? they're still as primitive as ever
you do realize that the Inquisition was a Christian thing right?
in the crusader's time , Muslims has more chivalry...however all we know nowadsys are about radical Islamists
The only reason that shit doesn't happen nearly as often with Christians is because we went through an Enlightenment and Muslims have yet to do that. They haven't had a cultural revolution that will change things for the better.
Wow, Sankaku sure is a place of ignorance.
No.
Holy shit you're fucking kidding me right? Holy shit you're not joking. If you're looking for bat-shit insane, look in the mirror.
oh you, getting in the hate religion bandwagon. Pity...
02:41
You just had to, didn't you?
Got that right, lmao!
Yes. But saying "You're devout" is more polite than saying "You're a fucking mental case".
Being religious doesn't make you insane. Using religion as an excuse to do things to people you wouldn't normally do is.
Believing that one or more super beings popped out of nowhere to create reality is no more insane than believing reality exploded out of nowhere, or believing that reality was always here, but it merely seems like it came from nowhere; or believing that in reality, there is no reality, and we're only imagining that it -- and we -- exists.
Besides, behind the religious insanity was usually some issue of wealth and/or power that was using the religious insanity as cover.
Being religious is the definition of insanity, you know why? Because true believers have no proof/evidence of what they live their lives by. All through blind faith, that is true madness.
@14:33 O I know the world is mad, and imo I believe most humans are crazy by technical definition on default. But ppl believers or not just living not knowing what is in store for them is not madness, but life, crappy life, but life nonetheless.
Madness is basically someone for example trying to go through a wall, it's just not going to happen not matter how many times you try nor how hard.
Thinking that a God created the universe solves nothing since you just change the problem. Now instead of not knowing where the universe came from you just don't know where God came from.
Believing in something with no evidence is pure madness. Scientific theories about the matter admit that they are just theories, they do not claim the absolute.
And anyway thinking that some being created the universe isn't a religion. Religion is something a lot more specific with set of rules and directions.
They don't just say all this shit probably where created by a powerful mind. They make silly little stories and dogmas and claim them as absolute. A religious God has nothing to do with simply believing that there is some deity behind the cords of the universe.
Quite the opposite. Being delusional is, in fact, considered insanity, when the cause is the patient's brain.
Using people is a lot of things, but insane is not one of them. Although insanity and manipulative nature are not mutually exclusive.
Reality is metaphysical nonsense for "our perception of how the state of matter changes in the universe".
I may be misunderstanding you here, but it sounds like you are implying how mainstream science views the origin of the universe. If you do, then you clearly do not understand anything, because what you say does not remotely resemble any of the widely supported theories.
Correlation does not imply causation. Anything which causes a large number of people to be susceptible to manipulation is likely to be used for that purpose. Religion can be substituted for ideology just as easily. See: communism, racism, fascism, marketing, etc...
@Jozle
Uncomfortable truth? Getting angry at it is not going to make it go away.
@14:33
And I suppose having your entire purpose dictated by an invisible higher authority you know nothing of is not blind at all.
There is no reliable knowledge about any of the major deities. Everything we know, we learned from mythological texts who have a reputation of being... colored by the people who wrote and later copied them. Let me ask you a counter question. What makes those people so trustworthy that you will define your entire existence according to their stories? Why are their stories any more creditable than any other work of fiction passed as facts?
"Do you even know that you live in such a mad world?"
I try to pretend that I don't.
@ 10:20
"All through blind faith, that is true madness."
Non-believers can be said to live their lives through blind directions, which in MY dictionary is madness as well.
Stop using this word to poorly shoot down the 4 billion religious people in this planet. Do you even know that you live in such a mad world?
@15:27
Oh shut the fuck up.
Oh look you are bashing religions you must be smart. Damn those crazy guys like MLK and Gandhi, who preached those crazy ideas like non-violence, and equality. Trying to bring up religion is retarded. I don't believe in any religion, so I'm tired of how it always has to get brought up. Being religious doesn't make someone an idiot like Santorum.
To be "good" because a god or religion dictates it, makes you nothing but a fearful little toolbox that doesn't really care about other living beings.
@Garyuu
I wasn't trying to sound smart. It was supposed to just be a funny comment that quoted something cats2 said. And being someone who practices mindfulness, I would never say Ghandi is crazy, and I don't get the correlation between MLK and religion. I'm also not well versed in American history so I don't know if religion was behind King's fight for equality. That said, I also don't know much about Rick Santorum other than that he is one of the republican's candidates for the presidency.
What I do know is that while I may be against religion, people who believe in it aren't stupid. There are many intelligent followers out there. For example, one of the most notable doctors in my town believes in christianity, and my family doctor is Jewish. I may be against their beliefs, and I will tell them outright, just as they tell me their beliefs, but I wouldn't dare call them stupid, ever.
The only thing I ever try to tell people about religions is that they are stories and they should be treated as such. If you follow a religion as a guideline to living a happy life, good for you. If you follow a religion believing in a supernatural being(s), then I'll shake my head. I practise mindfulness, but I am not a Buddhist. I even read stories like Siddhartha, but it's just that, a story.
Pacifism is a phylosophy, not a religious dogma. It has existed long before Ghandi.
Welcome to Gen Urobutcher's world.
Damn, now I got an urge to eat something.
I don't think you watched the anime too closely then. Remember the first moment when we meet Caster and the tentacles take a random kid. That gave a nice picture. Also the moment when Rider and his master discovered something in one of the Caster's hideouts.
Just because it wasn't on the screen for obvious reasons doesn't mean that wasn't there.
Well i Do! want to see the master and servant to get there asses kicked the manga was wicked sick...disgusting but strangely awesome! to bad it got cut that would hunt viewers in there dreams....bwahahahah....!
hope guro manga don`t go to much in readers and viewers heads...if so
First anime of it was good.. the second wss horrible.. really gross so I could not even bring myself to watch it.
Ummm... NO!!
These images are sexually gratifying. Don't agree? Don't care.
Pin Head would be proud.
I still wish there was more cock-worm rape. Have them swarm up into someone's womb until they look pregnant, have their belly rippling from the movement, blood gushing from their hole.
I agree. Always had this odd attraction towards guro. That being said, I don't actually go look for it, if it comes, then great, if it doesn't, then meh.
Ikr, its kinda weird...
I came..
it's delicious, i really want to see it animated :D, and feeding their own brains/flesh to them, such a great throwback to Hannibal ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce1nghxpGvM
Here's some real life guro, watch to the end, warning it's pretty graphic.
KONY WHO?
excuse me but I can't seem to hear that name over the sound of how awesome Ryunoske and Bluebeard is.
Kony 2012 must have US intelligence agencies getting paranoid/hyper active. Good old social networks able to start a movement of so many people in such little time.
yeah fuck that movement!
RYONUSKE 2012!
Leave your skeptical group think for the social media.
I read about this in the novels but I think that they're better off implying this level of debauchery instead of showing it outright. They can do a lot with sounds, shadows, and the like - whatever we imagine will be worse than what they show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1QzaMXUxo&feature=youtu.be [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1QzaMXUxo&feature=youtu.be]
i feel pissed there was no human umbrella
Its gross but it does seem rather ridiculous, but its the divide isnt it in horror, a mixture of weird sexual shit, psychological stuff and then gore. I personally find the kid stuff kinda gross here , but Berserk is pretty nasty (sure nastier stuff out there) but berserk is also one of the best mangas ever.
this does seem like its being slammed in for shocks rather then depth, whilst berserk and gantz to an extent do it with depth. But yeah after reading Berserk I actually just dont get nearly as phased as I use to. Something about the way he does the stuff in berserk actually like terrifys you he seems to get the balance of gore and horror and psychological effect really well.
and THIS is why Gideon pussy out of his job....