Comiket 81 “Now Fujoshiket” “Touhou Should Be Expelled!”
- Categories: News
- Date: Dec 14, 2011 06:04 JST
- Tags: Comiket, Comparison, Doujinshi, Events, Fujoshi, Otaku, Statistics, Touhou
Once again the increasingly overpowering dominance Touhou worshippers and creepy fujoshi exert over Comiket is the subject of much discussion, thanks to the release of the latest circle numbers for the upcoming C81 – and so pronounced is their dominance that some are now calling for them to be forcibly hived off into their own events.
The circle statistics for Comiket 81:
Touhou: 2690
Tiger & Bunny: 1170
Hetalia: 1000
Sengoku Basara: 842
Vocaloid: 492
Prince of Tennis: 460
Reborn: 458
Gintama: 438
Blue Exorcist: 428
IdolMaster: 417
Inazuma Eleven: 398
Madoka: 350
Tomodachi ga Sukunai: 322
Nintama: 298
Arashi: 282
Durarara: 278
Lyrical Nanoha: 271
One Piece: 254
Naruto: 244
Magi: 227
K-ON!: 200
By now there is a certain amount of resignation about all this:
“Hardly any Hetalia…”
“They really ought to spin these off into their own events when they get to this scale. The way they use the venue is pretty wasteful.”
“With that many single work circles they really are more suited to having their own events.”
“I don’t think it’ll happen, Comiket has a lot of prestige for these circles.”
“Who’s to say how many are too many? Are Tiger & Bunny and Hetalia OK? If the organisers just decided your favourite needed to get lost and have its own event, you’d be pissed.”
“I think when one work totally dominates an entire hall it might be said to be too numerous. It has never been this pronounced, has it? Even compared to previous booms, there was never anything dominating the event like this.”
“1500 is the ceiling really. But Touhou has nearly twice that! They’re just too numerous.”
“Shouldn’t they just chase out the fujoshi? Is all men that bad?”
“Commoners associate Comiket with men buying ero-doujinshi, so it would be better just to ban male oriented ero.”
“Just chase out the Touhou maniacs and fujoshi and I’ll go.”
There do not appear to have been much in the way of management efforts to alter Comiket’s circle composition, so an eventual transformation into a 25% Touhou, 75% fujoshi event may yet be inevitable.
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Doesn't Touhou have Reitaisai?
i completely agree with you, bro
...Not that I'm against Touhou.
Touhou Pawns but Comiket was designed for more artist groups that just Touhou so can see the point
Solution Touhou Building Comiket Building Same Day XD
Hardly any hetalia? those fujoshi bitches are crazy. and ban male oriented ero? what the fuck? isn't it more appropriate and wise to ban the fujoshi material? for fuck's sake, those toxic rotten lowlives need to get the fuck out.
Doesn't this idiot mean 25% fujoshi and 75% touhou?
And to be quite frank, it's more likely and appropriate to ban fujoshi's, their stuff is always offending and they should make their own events away from comiket.
Lmao who the fk made this article?
and why are they arguing only over tohou? there's plenty other male oriented doujinshi's (ero goodness)
Reitaisai is for Touhou
Comiket is for other doujinshi + Touhou
Reitaisai is for Touhou
Comiket is for Touhou + other doujinshi
I fix'd this for you.
And Kouroumu (sp?)
But when there are so many circles catering to the same fans, won't they get in the way of eachother's profits? Too much conpetition can make the smaller circles wither.
Kinda amazing how Touhou has become so popular mostly via word of mouth and viral internet videos.
Zun must be proud.
Wait, what about Zun saying that these doujin circles should try to stop milking his property?
*Drink the herb tea and looking to the moon*
~Sign~
Sakuya, Patchouli do you know why Touhou can have Fujoshi Fan ? There are only 2 guys there and they dont have much appearance.
I can understand if there are many Yuri Lolicon fan though.
Yonda? Yuri lolis whear?
@5:12: As good a pairing as any. I can see that working.
Better Genji than Rinnosuke.
Look HARDER!
I ship Reimu and Genjii.
I'm serious.
Not if each of them has something that "sticks out" from the rest, which I'm pretty sure they all do.
Zun must be proud
Zun himself has stated before that he isn't very pleased with all the erotic art based on his characters.
because that's not going to make more people want to do it or anything...
Zun states what zun states. It is openly known that Zun is tsun.
1% beer royalty for zun and everyone will be happy.
Well if I made a series that wasn't meant for porn and people make hentai of it, I'd be pissed too.
Wholesome Touhou is best Touhou.
I'd like to know the # on original ones.
I swear original stuff by ones like Valssu and the like are always so much better then 90% of the doujins...
turn all the fujoshi girls into women !
Oh look. The rabid fujoshis are now trying to take over SanCom by downvoting us and turning this entire site into Fujoshi Complex.
Sorry fujoshis but you will never break the spirit of SanCom and its people!
I'm rather disappointed to see people actually taking the side of Lamberto's intolerant nonsense here and instead down voting the only person in this comment chain to make sense.
I love my yuri, and all the sexy things related to the delicious female form. Yaoi makes me gag, and thus I avoid it. It's quite simple.
But I will support yaoi to the end, the same way I do yuri, on grounds of not being a fucking hypocrite. Let everyone have their fun and don't hate on things that have no relevance to you. Find yourself a girl that loves yaoi, let her, and she will let you have your yuri. No one is forcing you to look at it.
lol I haven't seen any downvoting of your comment so far XD SanCom is lovely just the way it is, why change it?? Gimme all the pussy and boobies with the occasional smidgen of cocks, we don't mind! We don't discriminate! In fact MORE :D
Yaku. When you want to prove someone wrong you usually use facts or make a point.
(you fail lol, kek, haha)is not valid.
He said what he thought in a serious manner while making a point. I think you on the other hand didn't. You just bashed.
Take it like a boss, bitch.
Lamberto, if you had read my comment more carefully (you and a bunch of others, it seems) you'd see that I'd actually like for all the yuri and straight to STAY and PROLIFERATE without discriminating yaoi (I did say smidgen) within Comiket, but since you guys are way too inside your own cockfest jerking each other off it won't matter what I say, so good day.
Sorry but Comiket needs less yaoi and more yuri/straight stuffs. I hate to say this but you and you fellow fujoshis are the reason why the shoujo genre is degrading into a yaoi fest. You don't seem to idolize the genre as much as you do with shounen. Furthermore, most of you girls don't support or idolize the beautiful bishoujo girls that exist in the anime world. You know, the anime characters of your gender that you're supposed to show respect with more than you do with the bishies.
It's like just mentioning downvoting on this site gets you downvoted... Oh snap!
Well, you seemed disappointed Lamberto so I went and downvoted all of your posts to give you the attention you wanted.
Maybe they don't support bishoujo girls because those characters are just the embodiment of male fantasies and have only the most cursory relationship to real girls?
Or maybe the problem is that you believe those characters are the way real girls are and act?
Sorry anon and Lamberto, I think your way of thinking is not only childish, but incredibly dumb. I hope you're just trolling (you're not even doing it in a funny way, FAIL), because saying that fujoshi are polluting the shounen genre and other dumb statements just make me not take you seriously at all.
Looks like fujoshis are spreading the site like viruses. I guess I just said one cold, brutal truth.
Of course, we male otakus and mangakas are to blame for the degradation of bishoujos. Nowadays, most of them are like the walking sex toys that we adore to fap. We barely see some who have the supposed traits that an iconic bishoujo should have.
While I may be a sick pervert, I'm actually hurt by the fact there are more sexualized, fanservicey girls now than the ones who have strong-willed and well-mannered personalities.
There's a reason the shoujo genre is falling short. Instead of acknowledging said reason they're now flocking toward other kind of mangas and slowly corrupting them into the same thing they abandoned.
It's a bit like locusts who ruined on field and now fly over to the next one which still looks fine and healthy to devastate it aswell.
@NakkiNyan-1 Sounds like you got yourself brutally downvoted as well.
You seem upset.
Lamberto: by that same token, you're supposed to what? Show respect for and idolize bishonen, characters of your own gender? Go ahead with that.
Did Ogiue began all this?
Long live Touhou, fuck the haters.
Touhou Fuck ya!
Shino needs to do some more touhou stuff.
inb4 haters hatin' in response.
In all seriousness... Even as a Touhou fan, too much of something is always bad.
Unless we're talking about boobs.
If it wasn't for Tohou it'd be just fujoshi.
All hail Touhou!
If fuujoshis dominate again, WE SHALL RIOT!
Why all the hate, my friend?
Comiket is big enough for all of us together to enjoy. We all get a share in it. There you can find works on your favorite subject, whatever it is.
If a large number of girls like BL, what's wrong? There will always be many other more artists involved in other themes for us to enjoy, simply because I think most of them create works on subjects they like themselves in the first place.
Comiket didn't start as a genre war playground, but as a place to promote original creation and freedom of thinking/expression.
And a last thought: don't forget, in the best Touhou tradition, that Defeat Means Friendship. There's no need to be at war with each other; we can all enjoy a nice cup of herb tea or sake looking at the moon and chatting together, even if we like different things.
(Sorry if all this sounds quite messy... english is not my native language and I'm on a fever right now)
I'm a dude and i wouldn't mind if they got what they want.
Quit fucking haters you homo!
Dankemon, fight da powah!
You're into BL?! No thanks, I don't enjoy being fucked.
touhou =/= bl... geeze. The fujoshi hate is aimed at spots 2 3 and 4. I dont even know if there are any male characters in touhou.
@yaku
Yes, it is bad. You should try playing the games, enjoying the challenge and the eargasmic music. You're going to love it, believe me.
Touhou >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BL
Plain and simple.
Facepalm at Touhou = BL -_-U
All I know about Touhou is through doujins, is that bad? :D
Hail and long lived