Anime Industry Returns to TAF, Grovels Before Ishihara
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Oct 19, 2011 14:10 JST
- Tags: Censorship, Events, Kadokawa, Politics, Shogakukan, Shueisha, Tokyo Anime Fair
The anime industry has grovellingly conceded that censorship under the firm hand of Tokyo fuhrer Shintaro Ishihara is OK after all – Kadokawa et al. have all humiliatingly folded and agreed to participate in the Tokyo International Anime Fair, all talk of their own “Anime Contents Expo” quietly forgotten.
The roster for TAF 2012 sees all the major publishers back under Ishihara’s heel, and the ACE homepage is blank with no word released about it since the devastating March earthquake Ishihara hailed as “divine retribution” against the corrupt innocents of Japan.
Their craven submission is particularly humiliating given Ishihara’s contemptuous treatment of the industry – “the earthquake serves them right,” “if you don’t like it, don’t come,” “they’ll just come back next year,” “they just have a persecution complex,” “otaku have corrupt DNA,” “mangaka are despicable people,” etc.
As an evidently spineless industry with no influence whatsoever, the success of further bans seems assured.
Meanwhile the Japanese government has been fantasising about Japan creating a cultural export industry on par with its manufacturing industry, and led by the state – quietly ignoring the fact that both regional and national governments are busily attempting to pass bans of all kinds on 2D material, and apparently not grasping the rather more basic realisation that no government has ever had any success in doing anything but strangling its own creative industries.
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Well fuck.
sigh, government is just completely retarded in every country isn't it?
Looks like it!
well it is the most grandest toy a child could ever play with. i mean, how else can you toy other people's lives and say it is for the betterment of the country? only the government has the authority to impose such thing
Except for Belgium, they don't even have a government!
Now we have another reason to protest.
as if anything you comment on sancom has any real meaning to the rest of the world -_-
"We"? Suuuuuure...
They finally ended up conceiding to Ishihara...
I never thought that japanese could be that spineless.
i still dont get it, whats so fun about making other people cried..?
I don't understand it either.
yay
No offense, but Japanese people need to grow a freakin spine and stop acting like a bitch.
I don't think that apply to only Japanese ppl here. That can apply to rest of the world too
The whole "Pedophilia scare" in America comes to mind.
It's the same, if not worse in Japan. See: every instance Artefact has decided to mention someone being under arrest or suspicion of otherwise harmless public acts involving women.
so true just giving directions to a little girl can get you arrested and ruin your future career life
Yeah you gotta love how singing about a 16yo girls was cool in the 80s and now talking to an 18yo can get you in trouble.
I blame femnazi groups, you know they pushed for change not cause they were concerned for 'children', but cause they know their expiration date has passed.
and only downvotes apply to anything critisizing the japanese on this site it seems. It's not just Japanese we know, but it still hold water what he said. bias is gonna be bias.
Don't grovel, kill! KILL! Would you kindly?
How awesome it would be to have that programming in this world
Ishihara is my hero. Haters gonna hate. Only otaku filthy scum would hate this legendary hero.
lololol troll gonna be trollin
All shall bow before iShithara ! Mwha ha ha ha !
I'm not bowing. I'm charging an uppercut.
You got that right bro! Let us feast on delicious self-proclaimed-gaijin-otaku's tears yeah?
It's a shame to see the anime industry cave in
and grovel before this guy. I think Vanilla Ice said it best in _Cool As Ice_:
"You ain't true to yourself, then you ain't true to nobody. Live your life for someone else, then you ain't livin'. Straight up fact."
The fake rapper had a point.
Crap now he's going to gain confidence and will probably try to push harder
They should have kept holding him by the throat .\_/.
Ishihara level up!
Either eat-shit-hara bribed them since TAF is going down the drain when he is chairman or they have short term memory ?
Still eat-shit-hara just die please.
It's either him or the even worse candidates.
From a certain point of view, he has bought some time for the protesters to prepare themselves for a Coup.
coup? lol the japs are scared to even go and talk to a little girl let alone a coup.
My point is that he has actually given them the time to prepare one, no matter what his real intentions are.
Whether the civies actually use this chance is obviously a different (and sad) story.
Great man do a great job. Cheap man do a cheap little job.
He should consider to mess with disaster prevention system. Tsunami, earth quark and nuclear crisis not directly hit tokyo but anyone can guarantee it will not happen.
of course, why do something that the people would easily forget you? anime is immortal, it lives on! so anyone who's smart enough to do a "social crusade" would earn you votes.
Anime Industry, you're literally being Hitler right now. Literally.
Importing the idea of moral faggotry from the West was the worst thing they could ever do.
So while the US is actively fucking over everyone. Japan is actively fucking over one of its last remaining profitable industries.
jealous of us arent you?
sorry someone shit in your breakfast
U JELLY?
HE JELLY
The battle is lost.
Mainly, because consumers didn't fight for it.
Japanese? rebelling against an authority figure? nah
They would never raise a hand against their god.
Except Haruhi, apparently.
you mean her seiyuu,anon?
only toloveru mangaka is putting on a fight.
yeah and To love ru mangaka will be arrested for producing child porn soon
Anonymous, they can try and arrest him.... and he can drag the case out through the courts for a long time and/or get the laws in question overturned.
@7:18
No they can't. Judges in Japan don't have the same authority as judges in the states. They can't single handedly call a law unconstitutional and overturn it.
Japanese proverb "Never let your artistic principle get in the way of your wallet".
Yah they have too much respect for the establishment in Japan.
Ishihara is an example of the type of corrupt leader where it's your duty to rebel.
The US may be fucked up but at least a politician can't get away with saying some of the stuff Ishihara has.
Senator Hank Erwin said something similar about Katrina and he lost the election.
Replace "manga" with "software/movie piracy". You were saying?
I think it's mainly because it's not nearly as bad as it was made out to be.
Additionally, the anime industry has been having a hard time fiscally. Make things worse, the whole tsunami/fukushima events did a pretty bad number on things. What I am getting at, is that this is a very lousy time for infighting when business needs to be done. The whole point of TAF was to bring in revenue, and so that is what we are seeing here. The companies are taking the high road and manning up to keep the industry alive, rather than bitch about having their manga on the back shelf instead of the front at the combini.
You make a good point. ^^
Besides, it's not so much a ban, as marking them 18+... unfortunately, a 18+ mark also lower sales by a lot, forcing them to cancel...
Some of those "bans" I can actually kind of agree with, though others I don't get at all...
You don't seem like someone who knows what's really going on.
Sure, it was never a 'ban' in the strictest sense of the word, but aside from the decreasing sales, it also makes it harder for artists to get the pass for their works. Publishers have become so jittery about it that they have literally forced certain titles out of the production. In return, some artists are now getting sidelined and have to look for another job.
Ishihara can't be too stupid to see that his imposed 'restriction' isn't really a 'ban'. It's exactly what he's after. Them old fucktards in Japan have really strong opinions about what can and can't be done in the society and they'll see to it that everyone follows their thinking. Isn't that a violation of a man's right for free speech?
Of course, some artists themselves are to blame too for pushing the envelope(shoujo mangas glorifying sex read by 15 years olds , anyone?), but this restriction is a haphazard solution. It's just closing the problem with a thin lid hoping the carcass would disappear by itself.
The things they think are leading to crime and disorder in their society is nothing more than a product of their own social taboos, stigmas and tight rules. Those crazy sexual media is also a product of those, but unlike crime and disorder, media is just a man or woman expressing ideas. The only people getting hurt are fictional people that don't exist.
Old men like Ishihara can't seem to think that it's them and their pre-WWII relic thinking that is no longer needed in Japan.
Oh well, ain't my country.
I still live despite some changes in just about anything, but I'll feel slightly sad that the world and their gov't are going off the deep end, making decisions that doesn't make sense and putting their people in some deep s**t.
I find it more sad that no one seems to realize, that we are all in this mess regardless if where we are and how bad it is in our country. It's so easy for anyone whose arrogant and ignorant to just attempt to shut up anyone whose actually speaking some truth in the matter about us.
I'm as pissed as anyone else about the BS that the USA, Japan, and a few other countries are coming up these days and stuff like this throws us back in that loophole that never made anything better for ourselves. I've no choice but to live through it all for now, being repressed by the people in power whose yanking all of a chains, more than that, throwing us all around for a loop.
It's sad. It's sad for USA to be in their predicament (which I think started it all was 9/11 following the decision made by all powers in that country, which lead up to their worse turning point in 2008), it's sad for Japan to blame most of their troubles on fictional works, some of it (although some fault might be on the publishes who give their adult works to people ages 15+ or lower, something like that), and it's sad for anyone else in the world having to deal with the BS that could have been prevented.
Let's face it, we're all in this sticky mess together regardless of where we live, who we are, our thoughts and feelings and all that. And I'll tell you one more thing, All we've been doing is the same thing for most of us, Complaining, bickering, calling names, punching, kicking, yelling, screaming, discriminating, and blaming each other every single day, every single year, every single second that goes by. Those stuff some of us we've been doing won't help and will never help get us out of our troubles.
This is a really long paragraph....hmm..
I may have gone a bit off the edge, but I just wanted to get this out. I just said this because even though I'm American, I'm not somebody who you think I am. I'm grown up and learning the truth every day, seeing as I'm not the only one whose been seeing all the mess that's been made and the people I meet, are just the same in a sense, we're both proud of ourselves and our country, but we listen too much of the crap that's not always true about others.
Ain't my country either, but I still think it's a shame since I share in some of their assets.
I agree with most of what you've said, I agree it is ridiculous, but I still think this is something that will not do too much harm in the end. The man is obviously crazy and people will realise it. I also realise that in other countries there are rules/laws that are just as stupid and that we should be better off. Still, we have our entertainment.
This industry and its market is also pretty strong and will overcome its obstacles. Even if it means change, they will make the best of it and still produce.
Anonymous, what is wrong with 'glorifying sex'? The fact is that since we are born with FULLY FUNCTIONAL genitalia outside of reproduction, it's kinda fucking obvious that nature expected us to be having sex from birth or soon afterwards.
I agree. Once the economy stabilizes and the Ishihara old fogey network dies out, things will go back to normal. I think that the anime/manga industry knows this and, for now at least, it is simply in their best interest to toe the line.
Sorry, doesn't work that way. Japan is a country where once something is written, it becomes very difficult to reverse.
Japanese writers have even written books addressing this issue, but they're fallen on deaf ears. And it's been the subject of a few scifi novels too. Battle Royale is one of them. But you'd only know that if you read the novel.
I wouldn't call this infighting.
lol, it ain't easy for hikkikomoris to participate in a protest march
Perhaps they can protest the event itself by remaining shut-in in their houses....? I mean c'mon it ain't too hard.
Occupy Japan ? Anyone
Or Occupy Ishiharas Place XD
Party at Ishihara's!
There is only one way for customers to protest and that's with their wallets.
Exactly, either a new underground/internet driven manga/anime industry will arise and thrive outside of these peoples reach or Japan's manga/anime industry will die a slow agonizing death.
The battle was already lost when iShithara was reelected.
is the anime industry gonna disappear because of this?
Just any ecchi anime with sexualized underage girls. Except ecchi with only older women for now on.
Someone just kill him already D:
Japanese are too dickless to standup to their government.
Japanese are to dickless to stand up for ANYTHING.
Does "Occupy" Tokyo counts?
> dickless
> don't stand up
....Hmm...
When is Arte gonna do a story about the problem with the crows & how a bunch of crows buzzed Ishihara on his golf day.
Ishihara appointed a crew to deal with the crows, but according to ABC News, they're losing the battle.
Well, Ishihara sure is too DICKLESS to STAND UP for other people's rights to choose what they want to entertain themselves with (anime/manga) and dedicate they'r lives to (artists incl. mangaka).
( *)_( *)
I hope he gets cancer *you-know-where* and dies. (no, not really, but i really hate him...Stupid poli-shiT-ic that governs to himself, acording to his ideals, and not to his people's benefit.)
my my, i didnt know anime/manga and such was so important that we need to stand up to the government, though they should stand up for other cases, though anime/manga and such related things dont seem that important to stand up for, unless ur all for free speech/loli fapping
inb4 hate
They need to STAND ERECT, with HARDENED FORM, take a good BEATING, and THRUST into the CLIMAX of victory.
I saw what you did thar.
I saw what you did thar.
It's true, Ishihara is dickless.
They're killing one of their greatest assets. Ishihara has something going on in his brain.
First, the yankii population dies out.
Next, the hashiriyas and street racing.
Now it's the anime.
What's next? The games? The culture? The idol industry?
WHAT THE HELL JAPAN. You're killing the good shit one by one!
just wait until the old generation dies off, in 20 years or so
Otakus are scums anyway, so what Ishihara is doing is for the good of Japan to bring the manly 3D lover back to Japan.
The population is dwindling over there for christ sake.
and you still blame this on 2d ?
you are hunted like a fucking animal just for asking direction to a girl !
how can you just even think of having baby with one ?!
ahah you're so stupid, as if the birthrate in Japan, Germany, Russia... was due to a lack of sexual activity.
Get a brain, children are a sociological and financial matter.
For japanese people, mostly financial, they have to pay everything. Oh and often, women can't work if they have children, another problem.
But you can't deny the fact that the low birthrate in Japan is also partially because of anime and manga.
It has created a spineless society.
Deny all you want, but this industry has brought out the worse in Japanese people. Sure it brought creativity but at the same time it has created hikis, otakus and herbivore man.
You know this has some truth in it. Ishihara is just trying to bring the good old Japan days. His method might be a bit too extreme for today's democracy but nevertheless a right direction.
Fans...urmm otakus might downvote me all you want....but I know a bunch of you who are virgins because of this industry. Imagine you never knew anime/manga, you would have gotten laid with a woman and live a manly life but it did not happen.
If it wasn't anime, it would be something else. It would be startrek, or powerrangers or whatever.
It's the culture over there as a whole that has a problem with encouraging people to have children. It can't be blamed on anime as a whole.
You are forgetting that Japan has over dozens of thousands of suicides every year. Of course the birth rate will decrease. People usually don't have children either because of financial or ideological reasons.
>> Imagine you never knew anime/manga, you would
>> have gotten laid with a woman and live a manly
>> life but it did not happen.
No, you got that backwards. If there wasn't any anime/manga I would've found something else. Like video games or comics or plain books. If there wasn't anthing like that around (and there was a time in my childhood like that), I would have just stared at the wall and imagined awesome stuff while carefully staying away from social contact.
isn't there like too many old people who voted for the ban and not enough young people that voted against the ban
LONG LIVE ISHIHARA!!!
is the anime industry gonna dissapear because of this news?
I will probably off myself to go to Gensokyo by then.
yet the war isnt OVER my friend
we live to fight another day
I am feeling bitter-sweet that even though this era will be strangled by both fools from both sides and 2d delishushness will be minimized thanks to the spineless folding of the anime industry, the future will still be made and purified when more anime-oriented (and hentai-wise) people take governmental positions in Japan...
Fans and those who truly love not only anime, but all things created in art, sounds, and literature will have their chance when these old fossils get turned into oil and chalk beneath the cold earth of the eastern sun...
Time kills, time heals, time deals with sh*t like this...
Time is merciless to both sides after all...But my money's on it forever when it comes to settling disputes~
the battle was lost years ago, when anime stopped pushing the boundaries and manga artists stopped selling out.
truth is anime has *always* had enemies, both in politics and special interest groups. but artists used to create quality material because, well, they focused on the quality their material. they didn't let the opposition dictate what they should make.
we don't need the entire anime industry to stand up to that fucktard Ishihara, we just need another Fujiko Fujio, Rumiko Takahashi, Go Nagai, Hayao Miyazaki. basically people with great talent who have enough spine to follow through with what they truly want.