Members of top idol group AKB48 have been complaining bitterly of outrageous mistreatment at the hands of the creepy otaku they gouge into attending handshaking events, with many such fans apparently making obscene and degrading remarks to idols who are in most cases mere schoolgirls.
AKB48 admonishes fans to be more civil in an official statement:
Recently we have been hearing of trouble at events; some have been making fun of the members, saying nasty things to them, or even frightening them with toy cockroaches.
AKB48 members try their hardest each day to attain their dreams, and we hold handshaking
These handshaking events aren’t held so the idols can hold back their tears and smile to fans as they say horrible things to them.Most of our members have no social experience and are just middle or high school girls. They may not know how to interpret some of the things adults say as jokes in many cases.
AKB48 member Sayaka Akimoto recounts her distress:
I want to enjoy shaking the hands of plenty of fans.
So please, take care to display proper manners. I may be an idol, but I am a human being too.
You can’t just do what you like to me, you know? I won’t just smile at you as you say and do anything, you know? Person to person is the idea, yes? Sayaka wants you to think about that, yes?
Various other members make similarly angry complaints about fan behaviour.
Toy cockroaches are actually the least of their worries – according to fans present, Tomomi Kasai was forced to endure fans telling her the following:
“I jacked off this morning before I came to see you!”
“I Tomonanised earlier!”
“So you’re wearing pink underwear today again?”
“Tomomi, your body is looking as sexy as ever!”
“Say ‘Oh! It came out!’ whilst doing this [gesturing as if holding a penis] please!”
For those not familiar with the business model of such idols, handshaking events typically involve dedicated fans paying significant amounts (whether directly or indirectly by being forced to buy multiple copies of the same CD to obtain a complete ticket) to queue and briefly meet the object of their obsessions, shaking their hand and perhaps posing for a picture.
In many cases a burly minder actually stands behind the creepy otaku with his hand on the subject’s shoulder to ensure he does not damage the merchandise:
Whilst the creepiness of idol followers is already notorious, there is a distinct lack of sympathy for the idols who deliberately encourage their obsessive tendencies for their own profit:
“What a handsome lot!”
“What are those guys holding their shoulders doing?”
“It reminds me of someone holding two rutting dogs together.”
“You’d expect this sort of thing, I’d think?”
“Shut up, prostitutes.”
“They’ve quite a nerve, lecturing fans about morals whilst forcing them to buy multiple copies of CDs to meet them.”
“Seems a lot of people don’t even like the girls they go to see now. People like you guys.”
“What on earth are people who do that stuff thinking?”
“Didn’t you make these customers yourselves?”
“What do you expect from AKB fans?”
“If your business is milking idiots and weirdos, don’t complain when they actually show up.”
“Idols are just for onanising over, don’t they realise that?”
“The only moral collapse here is in your sales methods.”
“Just ban the weirdos.”
“If they did that, most of their customers would disappear.”
“Bringing a toy cockroach is probably a result of not having met a woman since elementary school, and not having progressed from there.”
“If you don’t like it, quit. There are 47 replacements for you.”
“Why would fans say those things to them?”
“There is a section of their fans which thinks of them more as hostesses than idols.”
“Don’t they just want their favourite idol to remember them by doing something outrageous?”
“Given that they treat their customers as tools for extracting money from, I can’t see what right they have to complain at this treatment.”
“Just quit holding these events – oh, sorry, that would wreck your CD sales!”
“They pays their money, they does as they please.”
“Gathering all these social rejects, what do they expect?”
“What about the people using these children to make money off them?”
“They should do some training with hostesses as to how to better serve their customers.”
“Popular vs unpopular guests:”
“If AKB48 had any morals themselves they wouldn’t be using those tactics to exploit these freaks.”
“It’s actually a perfect match.”
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I just don't understand... Many people in the world, not resident in Japan, would like to greet their AKB idol... me included, and these retards... they make a huge row and spend money to waste the opportunity... get a life
if you like something, you'll spend some money for it. common sense.
Please don't tell me that they think such behaviour WASN'T to be expected. I mean, seriously. Their PR machinery all but strips their idols naked .. and in some cases they literally strip them naked.
Exactly. They are marketing for this kind of response and then want to act surprised when they get it. Did they think well-adjusted men were going to fall for marketing like that?
They overestimated the otaku's ability to be normal human beings.
quiet before i jerk off then shake your hand without washing
If that wasn't a more effective "shut up" then I don't know what is.
American's can literally go to a Wizard World, Chiller Theater, or Comic Con and chill out with TV & movie stars as hot & popular as Summer Glau, The Buffy cast, or Star Trek people for about $20 (plus admission fee).
Naked pin-up models & porn stars have more respectable fans and infinitely LESS security it seems. What is soo weird about Japan's fan base??
Their porn gets censored. How do you expect them to stay normal?
How could they called them porn if it's censored with black borders and mosaics? Japanese porn is such a troll, you know.
I thought it was funny when the guy spent a a lot of money buying 1000 albums just to have his favorite group on the top 100 charts in Japan.He didn't get a picture,a Hug,and a Thank you.
Yet Fatso which they call this Unknown man who taken a picture of Lady Gaga bought one album and came all the way from god knows where to go see Lady Gaga Preform her concert in Japan got a Hug,a Picture, and a Thank you.
Such is the shallowness of the Japanese.
American stars still market themselves as people, not as masturbation tools. These girls can't complain when they get what they create.
@Anon 13:00
Okay, so please enlighten the "clueless douches" on what Hollywood star is your preferred choice of a Hollywood star that leaks sex videos for self marketing, is C-level, and that all Americans, (as if you can speak for every single one) pay attention to?
Or did you just want to be a contrarian fuck for the hell of it?
You are remarkably dumb.
There are a number of American porn stars that have fake vaginas marketed under their names. So they are literally marketing themselves as masturbation tools.
There are quite a few C level Hollywood stars that have "leaked" sex videos out. They act like they are appalled but know it acts in their best interest of self marketing. Paris Hilton anyone?
If anything the American stars that do this are even more blatant at marketing themselves as "masturbation tools" than the AKB48 ever could.
Why does some clueless douche always come in here and try to use Paris Hilton as some kind of example of a Hollywood star or even someone the majority of Americans pay attention to. You watch way too much TV.
AKB48 have absolutely zero talent aside from being masturbation tools. That's what they are marketed for. That's it. Real stars have real talents that are taken seriously. You'll never see a western agency trying to market a harem of 48 people because clearly that doesn't showcase any actual talent for any one person or small group of people who actually work hard.
These girls are an otaku harem and shall be treated as such. Maybe when they stop being modern day geisha they'll be treated better.
@16:48
The rest of us were being general but it sounds like you're angry at some celeb in particular. >_>
Yeah, operating autotune needs quite a bit of raw talent.
And lets not forget, there's only so many words that rhyme on 'bitch' or 'bitches', putting them together is a talent of quite some magnificence
I don't think that's an excuse - in a modern society 'sex' shouldn't be seen as shameful, so the idols should be as free to sell it as the otaku are to buy it, that's up to them. But these girls are doing the otaku a massive service, they're giving them the chance to see bodies the likes of which they won't in real life, and the otaku clearly understand, want and appreciate that. They should be more grateful.
Why would you do that? You stand on line all day just so you can be an ass and troll the girl of your dreams? You're probably doing something wrong.
It makes these pathetic losers feel better about themselves by denigrating a woman. They figure some poor idol can't fight back (if she wants to keep her job) like any regular woman would.
You know what's funny is that you're probably one of those people that say stuff like making kitchen jokes, "I'd hit that", and "fap fap fap".
Dear anons, please keep in mind that there's a clear fucking line between posting perverted comments (either fully intentional or just as a joke) in the internet via nicknames and going face to face in person with a celebrity and start spitting disturbing comments in front of them.
Now go stand in front of a mirror and calculate the percentage of how much your faces resemble a total douchebag.
Well... only because you do't believe in equality doesn't mean we behave like assholes all the time.
>You know what's funny is that you're probably one of those people that say stuff like making kitchen jokes, "I'd hit that", and "fap fap fap".
What's your point ? It's not very clear to me. If you don't like it here, leave.
And if you can't differ between something said on the Internet and in RL then you shouldn't act so arrogant.
KleinerKokiri actually made a comment that was on topic!
"What's your point ? It's not very clear to me."
That's because you're mentally inferior.
"If you don't like it here, leave."
No one said they didn't like it her or anything remotely close to that.
"And if you can't differ between something said on the Internet and in RL then you shouldn't act so arrogant."
This doesn't even make any sense. A RL person makes comments on the internet. If it's in you, you'll make the comment. So it's stupid for people to act high and mighty just because they are anons and no one can catch them.
I swear every comment I've ever seen you make is complete shit.
TL;DR
U MAD BRO?!?!?!?
Victorique Obsessor Maidniac, UR AVATAR IS WIN!!
Yeah that makes up the majority of the comments here, so I can only laugh at the guys here who are trying to act morally superior to these assholes.
Actually, I see no difference between you guys and those pathetic losers over there. You're both equally shitstains and I just love flaming your fucking loser asses.
Hahaha look at KleinerKokiri trying to act morally superior.
Ironic that you call them "pathetic losers feel better about themselves by denigrating a woman" when this site and its users are probably one of the most sexist sites ever.
I don't know about him, but I would love a cookie.
How else would everyone here feel superior to Japanese otaku if they didn't say hypocritical things like that?
Oh wow, look at the pious piece of shit we have here.
What do you want, a cookie?
More like, you stand in line all day just so you can have some random man hug you while you shake hands with a manufactured 'idol' who has shaken hands with hundreds of other people that day, and doesn't care who you are, but will exploit you to keep you buying CDs anyway. Worse yet, these girls can't even sing or dance particularly well, but try to act cute as a group, hoping you won't notice.
It's not really the girls fault, so much as it is that of the organizations who put groups like this together. They're exploiting the girls, but even more so the otaku who are spending their money on these false relationships. If actions like these discourage such exploitative schemes, then they can't be all bad.
“If your business is milking idiots and weirdos, don’t complain when they actually show up.”
Genius.
...look at those fake petrified forced smiles.
One thing that doesn't get much screen time on this site is the fact that there are male idol groups that go through the same thing. Japan in general has all sorts of shady obsessed people from both sexes.
And the girls think they can get away with more, so they do some crazy, scary shit to these guys. And because they are guys it seems to be assumed that they'll need less security, so sometimes things don't end well.
Johnny's and Associates starts training their idols at a really young age in a variety of skills that would put any host club to shame. And from their debut onwards they are treated like pieces of meat until they are too old. Then the next batch of boys comes in, and if you think youth is only favored in women you'll be sadly mistaken.
The major problem with yarakashi is that they don't only hurt the boys but also other female fans. I rarely see male fans targeting other fans.
TIPs before meeting with IDOL and annoy the guard.
Make sure not to take a bath in a week before the meet and don't take a deodorant.
Wear SMS leather with spike in a shoulder and waist.
Put your semen on your hands and let it dry LOL.
Absolutely right on this one. While the idol industry in Japan has always been horrifying, it has truly turned into a trainwreck in recent years.
Funny thing about idolhood and its fandom is that the fans repeat the same degrading stereotypes about themselves and they kind of justify their actions through it. Including the typical nerd/otaku fashion. Plaid shirts everywhere!
Can you give some examples of this "scary shit" your talking about?
Gackt about a female groper on a train:
"Molesters are fine if it's a guy. If they touch me I can just hit them. But in this case it was a girl who was doing it. I was getting really nervous. And just as I was about to remove her hand, I stopped and thought, 'Which of us would be seen as the molester if I do something?' So in the end I couldn't do anything."
The law favors women, so male celebrities have their hands tied. And women know this. Gackt is a trained martial artist in several arts and they still try stuff because they know they can get away with it. He won't touch them and neither will the law.
@KleinerKokiri
And Tokio Hotel is actually a talented and legitimate band (for those who don't know they are a German group, not a Japanese group). I'm not saying you have to like their music or even them, but from a completely neutral standpoint, they do have talent and are actually under a legitimate label. They can produce a product and gain normal, well-mannered, music-loving, well-adjusted consumers to out-number the insane ones.
But with Japanese idols, they are marketed basically to be glorified hosts. Female fans (and I'm guessing in some unfortunate cases male fans) think they have the right to treat them like playthings. Getting harassed by a bunch of fanatical women isn't like a harem anime. These boys get injured, stuff is stolen right off their bodies so women can have a "piece" of them, women get jealous of the fame of members who aren't their favorites and attack them. It's completely insane.
And then, in some concerts foreign fans are discouraged because the yarakashi fans will harass THEM, telling them they shouldn't be there because they aren't Japanese and the idols on stage "belong to Japanese only."
Female otaku are much worse.
Maybe you should read more news. Girls are just like that. Tokyo Hotel for example was stalked by masked girls and they attacked some of their family relatives.
So those stale Johnny boys became sex slaves afterwards for that old coot that founded their agency? Just kidding!
Jin Akanishi so far has been the only Johnny's idol smart enough to move to America and sign under a label here. No more dealing with that Johnny's idol shit. He's still one of them but he says he feels a million times more free to be himself in the US. His old group was constantly harassed by yarakashi.
Maybe before but he's way too old to get it up now.
because a girl telling a guy i "did myself this morning" will make him sad?
Anonymous
12:53
but remember this, when most people think female idol girls, they imagine jail bait, you know, the 14-25 year old who like the man because hes "hot"
most of the time, they never realize that the fans they have to deal with, especially at those hand shake like events aren't the attractive ones, and even if they are, they are of the psycho variety, and most of the attractive women know this, and stay back, just attending the concerts, not the events.
so not only do you get the psycho women, you alienate the non psycho from the events, so when they just start, they have delusions that they may have normal fans at the events. at least the female idols know for a god damn fact they attract the creepy ones, they just dont know how creepy.
and the female ones get security. so if a fan over steps, they get jumped. the male counterpart, even if they can fend for themselves more, cant, and get less security as its perceived as unneeded. so imagine my above scenario. the hand is still wet, may be sweat, may be juice, you dont know, but you have to keep that smile and not offend, because your image is everything, and all you can think of is that hand sanitizer less than 2 feet away, however she grabs the hand harder and pulls you in for a kiss. you still cant tell her to fuck off, or push her ass away, you have to wait for someone to deal with her. but these are women, and the one behind her gets upset at the fact she is trying for a kiss, as thats what she was going to do.
now at this point a small fight breaks out, with hair pulling and the like, that's when the security actually decides to intervene.
as you watch the fight, to take a look at your watch, its only 12:25... 25 minutes into this 5 hour event, and you know its only going to go down hill from there.
i pitty the men far more than i pitty the women.
picture this, a fugly ass 200lbs+ 5foot 5 woman with a completely flat face, and what appears to be a mole with hair growing out of it, and also some facial hair, tells you she touched herself.
how many men wouldn't treat it like battery acid
I'm surprised none of the Johnny's boys have been raped yet. Either by male or female fanatics. Seriously that company has been around since before we were all born. The boys are insanely popular and can't live a normal life or blend in with a crowd, and they have stalkers and apparently get a lot less security.
*Pictures alidan's scenario* Dear god those poor boys.
you know what part has to suck the most for the guys?
they have to see the attractive girls in the audience. they have to, and they may get their hopes up that they will come to shake their hands...
but with the women, they see exactly what they are going to be shaking later on... they have no delusions that maybe JUST maybe some normal and attractive guy will want to shake their hand.
Yes. Sad to be the same species.
Can't blame those idols for forcing their Smiles:)
That fat otaku bastard look like he was smelly..
Of course. What do you expect? It's an event to show "appreciation" to the fans. Not like they really care.
I'll give you thousands internets if you manage to at least pull a neutral smile if you're facing that bahamut in picture #02..
If I smile like this maybe he wont eat me...
if they dont like smiling at bahamut then why they have this event in the 1st place?? oh right. for the money
@8:20 YES. Like any other civilized celebrity with any sort of talent. Oh wait if you're talented you don't need to beg people to buy shit just to shake your hand because they're buying your stuff anyway. And celebrities outside of Japan tend to hold meet-and-greets just to show their fans they actually appreciate them as a whole, and not just the select few who fell for the hardest marketing techniques. Imagine that!
@13:09
This is called marketing. "Meet-and-greet" just means more positive press coverage for the
slaveownersrecording agencies.What would you do it for? Charity?
Moron.
So you can't smile at him cause he's fat?
Fell fuck they should do the son of a bitch a favor and shoot him.
You sure are making a lot of assumptions.
It's their job to smile at customers and it's common courtesy.
No, they can't smile because he's fat, stinky, ugly, and is generally a loser in life.
What's to smile at?
Bahamut also has bad breath and spits when he talks. He is hiding an erection in his pants and his underwear has a shit stain inside. Other than that he is fine. His mother likes him...a little.
There are a ton of those. I didnt see a real smile there in any of the photos. But if you get 2 socially awkward parties together, there are bound to be problems.
This is true lol
It's called smiling all the way to the bank!
Just don't forget the hand sanitizer!
What do you expect?
This 'idol' business is not really about the music. It's more about merchandising. They just want to push as much shit as possible to consumers using music as an excuse.