Kuroneko Haters More Dangerous Than Ever

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The 9th volume of the Ore no Imouto novel is in general circulation, and to say the developments therein have not been favourably received by all fans would be a major understatement – but this is as nothing compared to the spiteful joy of Kuroneko detractors.

Whilst some Kuroneko fans are put out at her being dumped in favour of Kirino like last season’s unwanted moeblobs, there are plenty of Kuroneko-hating fans to whom the news is being greeted with perverse and rather creepy delight:

“Kusoneko is finished, go home losers!”

“Kuzuneko is even more worthless now!”

“What are you Kuroneko fans going to do now, eh? She’s ruined!”

“You crazy Kuroneko bashing Kirino fans are the reason people hate Kirino!”

“She’s just a minor character butting in on Kirino and Kyosuke, no wonder people bash her. I’ll never forget Ayase being sacrificed for her sake!”

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“Ahhhh!”

“The people who post about how much they hate Kuroneko are seriously as bad as her followers…”

“Gross, creepy, gross, these people are like that weirdo who destroyed all his Aya Hirano CDs…”


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    Avatar of KingFisher
    Comment by KingFisher
    11:55 12/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I haven't read the novels but if it means an incest ending that's all good for me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:01 12/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I'm thinking positively. If Kuroneko is not taken, then I'll be taking her then!

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:08 13/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I got my first edition Kuroneko Figma a a few weeks ago -She's Mine! ALL Mine!

    I like Kirino & Kuroneko together! - They define each other.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:58 13/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anon 03:08
    *spoilers* everyone dies in the end.

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    Comment by ZeroEdge
    16:35 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Not if I take her first! lol

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    Comment by Rei-Sama
    18:58 12/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    *Runs off with Kuroneko*
    Nyahahahaha!

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:26 13/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    i am liking this particular string of comments.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:26 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I hope this is the premise for Kuroneko's spinoff series, she gets a reverse harem to rule over as Queen of Darkness...

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:52 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Keikaku Doori!

    You losers fight over Kuroneko while I run off with Manami...

    As if.

    I've had Manami secured for a looong assed time. :)

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    Comment by TNinja
    23:24 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Combined the post with the avatar.

    Avatar of Shizu's Waki Obsessor: MaidNiac
    12:08 12/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    I'm still waiting with crossed fingers to see the parents confessing to them that Kirino's adopted and Kyosuke's actual blood-related sister is... Ayase.

    Well, at least that's what I thought the first time I saw Ayase.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:11 12/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Are you crazy? The fact they are blood related makes their relationship that much better. If they fall in love regardless of the natural and moral issues involved it must mean their relationship is the real deal.

    I just hate Kirino because she is depicted like an innate mary sue.

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    Comment by patamon
    06:00 13/09/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    @ Anon 00:50 - Liking or supporting incestuous pairings in anime/manga/etc does not equal "I want to bang my own sibling in real life".

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:48 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    You get it. You just... get it. +1 Internet

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:36 13/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    in god eye is okay in the public eye they will castrate you, afterwards you are penatarted through your new hole in a prison

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:50 13/09/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    You are all totally F...-up. You lot would diddle your own sisters. What the F... is wrong with you.

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    Comment by Anyien
    13:25 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, afraid that everything we have seen so far have only made it more clear that they are blood-related siblings.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Better yet their parents confess that they are really brother and sister and were waiting for Kirino and Kyosuke to come of age so they could have a giant cluster fuck!

    Comment by Anonymous

    Even better: Their mother - tired of her husband - longs for Kyosuke, so she had to get rid of Kuroneko and turn Kirino into an incest loving slut, scoring a threesome at least.
    Maybe Manami will find out and join, too :O

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    Comment by southernob
    20:42 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't hate incest manga but in this case, I don't understand y this guy choice his sister while there are 2 other wonderful non-blood-related girls by his side. -> bad ending to me

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:34 13/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    kyosuke is adopted son, no photo of him in kirino childhood album

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:13 13/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    wasn't Kirino adopted?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:54 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    haters gonna hate, lovers gonna love

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:36 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Considering the name of the series is "My little sister can't be this cute", the target audience is pretty clear. And considering that, is it any surprise that some people would be frustrated by Kuroneko becoming the love interest in place of the titular little sister? So of course they hate Kuroneko and are now overjoyed with this turn of events.

    It's as if Lotte no Omocha suddenly changed its focus entirely on the mature characters and left all of the lolis on the sidelines. All the lolicon fans of that series would grow to hate them. So while I think destroying memorabilia is overdoing it, I say give the siscons a break. Anyone who reads something called "My little sister can't be this cute" and has no interest in the little sister character is reading the wrong thing. The Kuroneko haters are entirely justified.

    Also, while I don't hate Kuroneko, I think she's one of the most boring characters in the show.

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    Comment by Powerpuff Loli
    13:38 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yeah but at least Lotte no Omocha gave lolicons a lot of loli fanservice. What did Oreimo give siscon fans? A "Thank you, Aniki" and "Sorry I showed your porn collection to your childhood friend, so watch me throw shit at you while wearing a maid outfit and take this eroge as an apology". I didn't watch Oreimo for Kirino and I'm sure a lot of fans didn't either

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:50 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    100% tsun 0% dere
    well, maybe it's just 99% but still she's more of a bitch than anything else

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:56 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I watched the series because of Kirino, she was the only character I came to like. Who needs "dere" anyway if you can get a good beating by your lovable sister? Sadly I came to hate most of the remaining characters, like in.. everyone else. That's why I never bothered with the novel, but maybe now I'll pick up the latest one for some hot siscon action.

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    Comment by You
    19:32 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @17:56 - RESPECT. You have earned mine :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:13 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The anime doesn't cover the whole story, and it's a relationship that develops slowly. That doesn't change the fact that it's the central theme and the one you'd likely expect given the title. It doesn't have to be 102% fanservice and -2% plot like Lotte no Omocha and have the obligatory beach episode + hot springs episode + summer festival episode combo to be judged by those standards.

    My point is that it's entirely understandable why the siscon fans would feel it was a case of bait-and-switch when Kuroneko pushed Kirino aside. For a different example, it's like if Jimmy Olsen suddenly took over the Superman comic and when the fans got mad, others started saying that Superman sucks and it's great that Jimmy Olsen is the main character now. Why on Earth would anyone even read Superman if they don't like the main character? And why would they expect the fans to react in any way other than angry when he gets replaced?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:32 18/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Holy shit man, you are absolutely right, well said!
    WELLSAID!

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    Comment by Rainney
    23:28 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly. 100% exactly.

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    Comment by yaku
    12:08 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^This.

    She's on the freaking title, of course she's the focus! it can't get any more obvious than that.

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    Comment by Lunar Archivist
    11:11 12/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Ugh. Dumping Kuroneko for Kirino? Really? Kousuke has terrible taste. At least have him take up with Manami, dammit. She's the sweetest, nicest character in the entire series. :(

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:57 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Hey, that lame main character deserves a life-sentence with Kirino. He's a weak-ass idiot and she's a plain bitch. At least they won't sexually bother other, better characters any longer.

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    Comment by BlaqCat
    21:56 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Unfortunately for us all, since the begining it's seemed like Kousuke x Kirino has been a foregone conclusion (and forced at that). Manami was the more sensible choice, and Kuroneko just as good. Both better options than Kirino...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:40 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kuroneko did the dumping, not Kyousuke. She wants the siblings together too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:16 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This series is so going to end with arrests and broken hearts.

    Damn Insect!

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    Comment by Rainney
    12:35 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kusoneko is a pretty bad friend to Kirino. Knowing that her best friend is in love with Kyousuke (incest or not) yet she still butts in? That's not being a very nice friend.

    And I love flat chested lolis as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna prefer her just because of that. :p

    To be unbiased though, Manami really is his best choice, as much as I like Kirino.

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    Comment by Rainney
    23:18 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I didn't really think of it that way at all. If that's true then, I guess she's not as awful as I thought.

    Then again, why butt in in the first place? Well, I guess it's better for Kirino fans since it's finally made Kyousuke realize, so whatever lol

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    Comment by Anyien
    13:23 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    And the reason she butts in is because she is tired of Kirino´s half-hearted resolve and tries to force her to act by confessing to Kyosuke.

    Even though she herself loves Kyosuke, she confessed to him to force Kirino to act herself if she didn't want him to be taken away.

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    Comment by Powerpuff Loli
    13:22 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Have you not read the 8th volume or is this some development that happens 9th that I haven't read about?

    Kuroneko, the queen of my beautiful nightmares and part-time waifu, never intended to take Kyousuke away from Kirino. She just wants a sample.

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    Comment by Rainney
    16:34 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The fact she dumped him doesn't change the fact that her intention was to fuck over her best friend.

    And getting back at Kyousuke by telling everyone in school he's a siscon.. I sometimes wonder how people that have read the novels can stand her.. Probably because of her DFC lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:15 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Agreed. Dumping Kuroneko for either Manami or Ayase is understandable. But why dump for one's younger sister?

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    Comment by Anyien
    13:23 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Because he loves Kirino maybe??

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    Comment by theorist
    14:24 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    because that is about incest

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    Comment by Rainney
    23:15 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    But he didn't dump her, she dumped him..

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    Comment by Ken
    12:15 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    I don't know about the sweetest, but she´s surely the most interesting, with a unique personality.

    Edit: Forget what I said, Manami IS the sweetest character for sure. I thought you were talking about Kuroneko...

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    Comment by Lunar Archivist
    12:55 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kuroneko's not too bad. On my personal scale, from most to least sweet:

    Manami
    Saori
    Kuroneko
    Ayase
    Kirino

    And for those people who're wondering why I ranked Ayase so low, it's mostly because of how judgemental she was upon discovering Kirino was an otaku. She's light years ahead of the latter, though.

    Avatar of Shizu's Waki Obsessor: MaidNiac
    15:06 12/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I know I've said this before but I'm not going to deny that I have mix feelings towards her character both in terms of liking and hating. As for the hate; pretty obvious to tell just like what most people would say, I despise her for being bitchy, abusive and frequently burst her tantrums for no reason. Now back for the Like factor; one thing that sorta made me got into her is the fact how she's facing her self-inferior-complex for being an otaku and living as a closet one. For certain factors (on the otaku part), she pretty much resembles what I feel like for being a closet figure collector.

    Of course, I'm not some hunk working as a model or declared as the ace of the track club in highschool, it's more have something to do with social status. In my country, race-wise, that kind of hobby is usually situated with Chinese hobbyist and a certain portion of the Malays. Very seldom (if not inexistent) that eastern natives like me are known to be into collecting figures and if any of my friends ever find out that I have a casual amount of Figmas, Transformers and Figuarts, 95% of them will tend to frown and asked me why didn't I use my paycheck to get hi-tech cellphones or any electronic gadgets which every youths and adults nowadays are hungry for.

    That episode where Kirino got angry over Ayase for questioning her what she does to her Meruru nendoroid collection pretty much explains what I feel everytime I get that "Why?" question thrown at me. I don't do Silent Treatment to my friends like Kirino did, of course.

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    Comment by Rainney
    23:15 12/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    She really does have a lot of background 'dere' though, but people don't notice it if they don't pay attention, or just completely deny it's there in the first place.

    First of all, the only reason she's so popular is because she wanted to impress Kyousuke. That in itself is super dere. She's just not showing it physically.

    Second is the fact the only people she's a bitch to are Kyousuke, Kuroneko (since she was her rival from the beginning), and Manami (rival in love. at first anyway). The two latter explain themselves. The reason she's mean to Kyousuke is because she can't make out her own feelings for him. She's trying to understand how she should act around him and since she doesn't know, she ends up being a bitch. That's all there is to it really..

    And third, the reason she acts like being an otaku is a bad thing is because.. well, try growing up in Japan and then explaining to all your friends you're an otaku. It's a taboo thing. She'd end up losing her friends and going through what Ayase did, again. Referring to Saori and Kuroneko as 'weirdos' was pretty fucked up but you really can't blame her, since she didn't wanna lose Ayase as her friend. And I doubt she thought of how it would affect Saori and Kuroneko in the heat of the moment.

    All in all, yes. Kirino IS a bitch. But she does have her redeeming qualities. Maybe less than other tsunderes but hey, so what? Not saying everyone should love her, and I'd understand where you're coming from by hating her. But imo, she's not ~that~ horrible. :p

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    Comment by Lunar Archivist
    13:19 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know what people see in Kirino, honestly. So she's cute and popular. Big whoop. She also got a lousy attitude, a massive amount of self-loathing for being an otaku in several ways, and seems to look down on other members of that same group. When she referred to Saori and Kuroneko as weirdos she didn't know upon encountering Ayase while leaving Comiket, I seriously wanted to punch her in the face.

    Maybe it's just me, though. I absolutely loathe tsundere types, which probably puts me at odds with most of the anime and manga fandom out there.

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    Comment by Lunar Archivist
    05:12 13/09/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    "Referring to Saori and Kuroneko as 'weirdos' was pretty fucked up but you really can't blame her, since she didn't wanna lose Ayase as her friend."

    That raises a serious question, though: if someone is that superficial, shallow, and unaccepting of who you really are, is that person really worth keeping as a friend or even a real friend in the first place?

    As for tsunderes...you know how Sasahara from "Genshiken" once said that "I can vouch that [brother-sister incest games] are a result of fantasies by people who don't actually have a younger sister."? Well, I can vouch that anyone who's into tsundere types is either a masochist or has never actually had a friend or (potential) love interest who was one. It's irritating as fuck to be walking on eggshells all the time, be constantly yelled at or berated, and have the "you pissed me off but I won't tell you why because if you care for me you should know" card pulled incessantly.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Kirino needs to be tamed. She needs to experience a "Wolf Guy" type moment as Akiko Aoshika did.

    Comment by Anonymous

    For me the tsundere type is not only frustrating, but also old and boring.

    Not to mention its also a cop out that creators love to exploit. If they feel that the characters are becoming to close, or they cant think of a way to insert humor, then they just turn her into a violent, spiteful, psychotic bitch.

    The real weirdness about tsudere is that almost always, except for when interacting with the protagonist, she is completely normal. To me, tsundere characters tend to have little to no depth, just black and white.

    Also, they tend to combine a tsudere with a pathetically weak male lead, that just lets her beat the shit out of him all the time. Even the reasons behind her rage generally are never the guys fault.

    If you like that sort of thing then more power to ya, but I just cant see the appeal. I am just not into Schizophrenic women, and I find it hard to root for a male lead that refuses to stand up for himself.

    Comment by Anonymous

    "I don't know what people see in Kirino..."

    she's the lead female.
    in all seriousness, that's about all there is to it.
    it doesn't really matter what her character type is, you can count on 1 hand how many manga where the main female character doesn't top popularity polls.

    and really, that shouldn't be too surprising.
    the reality is the vast majority of fans of a given work are going to be fans because they actually like the main character of that work.

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    Comment by Lunar Archivist
    16:07 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    "The reality is the vast majority of fans of a given work are going to be fans because they actually like the main character of that work."

    That's my problem, actually.

    How can I best describe this...let's take "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya", for example. While the eponymous character is the female equivalent of a jerkass a lot of the time, at least she occasionally displays some selfless, redeeming features, like when she replaced the lead singer of ENOZ during the school festival despite having a reputation as a weirdo. Plus, her antics are amusing at least (even if I don't approve of her endless molestation of poor Mikuru).

    Kirino, however, has no redeeming features whatsoever. Everything she does serves to masturbate her own ego, is designed to maintain the illusion of the perfect, popular girl at school, or to hide her inner otaku from the world at all costs. The loyalty she displays to her friends at school is completely offset by her lack thereof towards Saori and Kuroneko. She's an utterly self-centered, egotistical, and hypocritical bitch. In fact, I find her so thoroughly unlikable that, even during those times when I'm supposed to feel bad or sorry for her, I end up enjoying watching her suffer.

    The only thing that keeps me interested in this series is Kousuke and the rest of the supporting cast. And, given how much they have to compensate for, it's amazing that they can manage that.

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    Comment by Ken

    Kuroneko is kind of a tsundere regarding feelings, because she doesn't show them much, but you can see them reflected on her expressions.
    I totally concur with you about Ayase, she was kind of a bitch in that chapter. Not sweet at all. And for me, Kirino is just a spoiled girl, although some people may consider that moe.
    BTW, Saori's so cool.

    Comment by Anonymous

    You know what, I'm going to end your wonderment at how people enjoy Kirino right here and now, and it only takes TWO letters.

    S&M.

    Some people are just M dude. That's all there is to it.







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