“9 Things Women Are Desperate For In A Man”

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Those wondering just what it is Japanese women are looking for in a man need look no further than this latest attempt to encapsulate it into a handy list – though the response from most men appears to be howls of anguish and despair.

The listing, supposedly based on a survey:

1. He works for a famous company everybody has heard of

‘You definitely think ‘ohhhh’ if you meet a guy like this on a group date’ – 20-something woman. There are certainly a lot of women who are hot for men who work in famous companies. It lends a sense of stability if they are at the age when they want to marry. It might not go down well to say this straight off, so men hoping to exploit it should time handing over their business card well.

2. He rides a cool luxury car

‘If I could only date a guy like this’ – 20-something woman. It seems plenty of women have high expectations of going on a gorgeous drive for a date.

3. He’s appeared at the Koshien Stadium [as a high school baseball player]

‘That’s a huge venue – I’d really respect any guy who appeared there’ – 20-something woman. Men can really play up their heroic image with something like this.

4. He’s a doctor or lawyer or has some other top intellectual qualification

‘He must be loaded, and have status if he is one of these. If I could marry someone like this…’ – 20-something woman. A lot of women’s hearts flutter when they think of a future like this.

5. He owns a condo in the best part of town

‘This really gives a sense of stability! If it’s in a good spot, my dreams of living a celeb lifestyle are a step closer…’ – 20-something woman. It seems the hearts of most women thinking of a future living in such a property skip a beat.

6. He has mastered a foreign language or languages

‘It would be fun going on holiday with a guy like this!’ – 20-something woman. Language ability seems a plus for many women.

7. He’s a graduate of a top university

‘It’s a cliché, but I’d love to date a graduate of Tokyo University’ – 20-something woman. Looking for men with a promising future may be instinctive for a woman! But men should still wait until asked to reveal it.

8. He’s a famous model, celebrity, talent, etc

‘If a superior man like this loved me, I’d feel superior too!’ – 20-something woman. Certainly many women are weak kneed in the presence of famous men.

9. He has $100,000+ in savings [10 million yen is the “magic figure” in Japanese thinking]

‘It’s not good to pick based on money, but after all!’ – 20-something woman. The power of money is indeed absolute. The power to move a woman’s heart. However, showing a woman your bank balance is frowned upon, so it is better to merely intimate the fact you have huge savings by saying ‘I dream of buying a condo’ and so on.

The fact that the entire list could not unfairly be boiled down to “he is loaded” certainly has not escaped notice (nor has the amount of money 2ch denizens constantly boast of squireling away):

“1. A 1 ton gold nugget.”

“They need to face reality.”

“Basically 90% of this can be translated to ‘money.'”

“You’re rich with $100,000 now?”

“Right… you can’t even build a piddling little house for that much.”

“I have that much and I still can’t get laid.”

“They sound like 40-something old bags who missed their chance to get married.”

“Nothing on that list is going to be possible for a man in his twenties.”

“You can tell the contents of the list without looking.”

“This is like something from the bubble years.”

“Women have absolutely no intention of labouring to better themselves. They are relying on others for everything.”

“Do they think they automatically get all his savings? Are these women beggars or what?”

“Koshien stadium appearance – what the hell???”

“I have a fat bald forty-year-old boss who brags about appearing there, somebody take him!”

“You lot are still dancing to that stupid site’s tune?”

“I bet they only surveyed that one ’20-something woman.'”

“It’s all money related, isn’t it?”

“I graduated from Tokyo university and have a PhD from a famous overseas university, but I only earn 3 million yen a year and I am 5 million yen in debt. What are my chances?”

“Getting the condo and the savings at once might be tough, but doing either is OK.”

“Nobody fulfilling 1, 2, 4, or 5 is going to have that much in savings…”

“Anyone on that list wouldn’t pick a girl like that in the first place.”

“Women like that are as dim-witted as they are open-legged.”

“It’s like the setting for some tawdry drama.”

“That stuff about the stadium is really embarrassing.”

“The stadium stuff…”

“So women are basically parasites?”

“Women have always preferred money and resourcefulness. If you don’t like it, stick to 2D wives and harlots.”

“It doesn’t matter how much money you guys have, you’ll still be just as creepy.”

“Men are just a revenue stream.”

“The type of woman men are desperate for:

1. She doesn’t date a man just to get hold of his money.”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    21:03 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Materialism in females at its finest.

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    Comment by cats2
    02:34 06/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Money Money Money, is all you need.

    Parappa The Raper teaches you the facts of life after all eh...

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:42 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't see what the problem is. If they surveyed men the entire list would be about looks. Men care A LOT about a woman's looks, but then get all bent out of shape when women care about income. So what only men can be shallow?

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    Comment by OTIKA
    11:18 06/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Looks are important, but nobody can state this fact without sounding like an asshole.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:10 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @OTIKA
    Yeah looks are important, and so is money. Men and women are shallow in different ways but the men here are always getting whiny and pissy about it. Then on every other article they are making the most ridiculous comments about how girls look, sex, etc.

    As long as men are so stupidly picky about how girls look, then they have no right to complain when women are picky about their financial status.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:43 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @15:20
    Congratulations, you just agreed with her. Fucking dumbass. Next time you get butthurt speak for yourself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:01 08/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Bro, it's not shallow. It's practical. What good is a woman if she doesn't get your dick hard? Worthless."

    And what good is a broke man? It's the same thing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:52 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bro, it's not shallow. It's practical. What good is a woman if she doesn't get your dick hard? Worthless.

    Comment by Anonymous

    @15:43
    I guess you're the stupid one here..
    Yes i know i agreed with her, that was the fucking point. Fuck yeah men are shallow, but most women are even worse than men..

    Comment by Anonymous

    I seriously don' t understand your point about looks ??

    Comment by Anonymous

    Now you just shut the fuck up! Women Are just as shallow if not wore than men when it comes to looks.
    AND money for that matter..

    Fucking hypocrit

    Comment by Anonymous

    @15:43
    Besides the only one who is butthurt here is your mother after i spanked her ass the whole day.
    What a workout lol... That's a whole lot of cheek to spank Lolololololololololololololol!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:55 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    number 6 seems the only reasonable one....

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:19 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I have like 5 of those traits. But the catch is that I'm a fukking otaku! Can you take that bitch! I say GG.

    Comment by Anonymous

    qualifying for 2 5 6 and 9, sounds like i should go look for gf in japan... hahahaha fat chance. If there is one thing successful people hate, it is being told what to do. That is probably one of the top driving force of success. Unless these women are begging to be slaves, i doubt any of their plans will turn out well for them. Especially considering we can afford good lawyers...

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    Comment by Makoto
    12:07 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I'm pretty sure this was supposed to be a 'dream' man survey, not requirements.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    03:43 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Every human on planet earth is materialistic to some degree. And I didn't realize having brains and knowing languages counts.

    IT may be harsh, but ESPECIALLY in this economy, one has to watch out for financial stability of someone as well.

    No surprise, the biggest scare-factor for non-marriage in Japan this generation is that it's beyond the means of people to raise a child financially. You know what is a true fairytale? Expecting that you could actually be a happy and go lucky family without a dime. Going on 'love' alone. It's a nice idea, but I don't blame the girls for at least considering some options. Though it'd be maniacal if they aim for ALL those options at once.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    04:54 06/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.3)

    I want a manga where a girl meets a brilliant doctor who happens to be a the best part-timer on a famous baseball team as he works at the most famous company in all of Japan when he's not healing wounds or driving to baseball games in his Ferrari from his Condo in central Tokyo as he chats with his friends in France, America, and Germany in fluent native language about their times together as transfer students at Harvard about their underwear modeling days which gave them over $100,000 savings.

    It wouldn't last one volume and probably end with her realizing how pathetic she is by comparison and probably end up in her performing Seppuku.

    Hell, if a guy like that existed, I'D kill him, because it would mean we're being taken over by aliens!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:27 03/02/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    P.S. Besides 2PAC, also Mika's (No) "Happy Ending".

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:57 03/02/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Do own a 4WD offroad capable.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:12 03/02/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Really did knew a guy like that, and a similar few not personally. Too bad there are not too many of them, and they are either snatched up very quickly by similar LADIES, (not my personal taste but whatever,) or have a few hidden skeletons in the closet. Do you prefer hidden otaku, hidden sexuality, both, or other skeletons? Lol on the other skeletons part.

    That said, HouseLife, why the hate for both the prize catch and the "average" lady. Personally know a lot of cases where the seemingly super "winner" couples ends with very sad lives and additional lives, and of "uneven" couples with perfectly happy life, and vice-versa for both, as well as everything in between. Might even be the result of one failed once-"winner" couple.

    As for seppuku, the only examples personally know are all not related, RIP.

    As a lowly someone not of that caliber,

    1. Got offered into major ones, in partnership making IT with some major fruit company.

    2. can afford if wanted, prefer walking or use public transport everywhere, hope that special someone will be fit & cheap enough to be there too :P. GTA with anime mods and the like will satisfy the vanity urge. Girlfriends, you have no idea if it is owned or rented, lol. Not that expensive to rent.

    3. Did not make it to national, is regional good enough?

    4. Plenty of classmate did.

    5. Partly or fully in 3 cities with no mortgages, one city consistently in the top 5 according to Mercer or other lists. With 2 passports and a few other similar visa-free travel documents into a few OECD countries or top economic zones. All these official list are really just majority opinions, resided in a dozen cities across the pacific to know.

    6. 2 very useful ones, 1 very useless ones, work-in-progress on other useless or useful ones including Japanese, Computer language & SiFi language not included.

    7. Only 2 of world's top 50. According to family, not good enough.

    8. Once upon a time, a long time ago, as a kid only at very minor local level.

    9. Which currency? Total? almost there.

    Seriously girlfriends, you have no idea what you could be getting yourself into. It is not like you will know the listed info on top, or the hidden catch in the closet. A lot of things can change in an instant too. Also personally, Y U NO 2D loving virgins with the same beliefs, even if personally don't care about "average" looks. Sorry can't be the daddy or prince that don't care that you cr@p away the work from sweat and no-longer-existent tears like it is nothing? Also wish you can understand the message behind 2PAC's "wonder why they call"

    Personally, only saying all this cr@p because likes you so much wanna be you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:21 03/02/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    typo, even if personally don't care if you have "average" or "below average" looks; since in all honesty, almost all of us looks the same when compared to 2D :P. Can promise to never look at another 3D since personally don't anyway, so long as you do the same.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:44 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Not to mention none of these men would even entertain the idea of getting a woman of anything below supreme attractiveness. In reality the ability to pay the bills is much more important, but the only complain when a woman has standards, even though their standards for looks are so unrealistic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:53 03/02/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Speak for yourself, you assume too much. Looks to me it is you who need to give it some thought, tho you will probably never get it until you have a family for a few years, or just live for a bit more years.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:54 03/02/2015 # ! Neutral (0)

    Opps, how did I get here, and replying to something posted 4 years ago.

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    Comment by Ethan
    04:35 07/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @16:55
    I need a woman who is more than a pretty face and a slut. If that's all you need, get a prostitute.

    I don't think the way to get women to stop being materialistic is to tell them that all you need is your dick sucked. If this sort of poor character is all you have to offer, then of course woman will just want your money and not you. It also makes you sound immature and as though you don't really know what masculinity is.

    @8:44
    I don't need a woman of supreme attractiveness, so you are wrong there. I do need someone I'm attracted to. And having a good personality can make an average woman very attractive. A gold-digging attitude is NEVER attractive.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Men only need the bitch too look pretty while sucking dick. If they didn't care about the bitch looking pretty, then they'd be faggots already, right? Give it some thought for fuck's sake.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Charles Darwin was apparently the English great-great-grandmother of Charles Dunois.

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    Comment by Powerpuff Loli
    00:47 06/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    "1. He works for a famous company everybody has heard of"

    Does McDonalds count? Everybody's heard of it, right?

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    Comment by Gradius
    10:08 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The picture couldn't be better or true enough.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:47 07/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Famous company, doesn't matter if it's famous for the right reasons...

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    Comment by Anonymous
    21:39 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "If only you had enough money for that new Les Paul guitar"

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:15 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd doubt that'll cost more than a condo.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:21 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Try looking at prices for some vintage Les Paul and come back later.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:52 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    'No one would buy vintage guitar for playing. Or Les Paul anyway, things are fucken heavy. :('

    If you cannot handle the weight of a guitar, you need to spend some time lifting barbells.

    Have you noticed that most male rock stars lift weights?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:30 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    No one would buy vintage guitar for playing. Or Les Paul anyway, things are fucken heavy. :(

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    Comment by Megidola
    22:17 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    2. Madoka

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:06 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    tsss women and money.....

    "What's about 7inch long and around 3inch wide and make all omen crazy? a 100$ bill..."

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:03 05/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Those crazy omens!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:42 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Well my requirement is that they have to be Katsura Hinagiku or Izumi Konata!
    Anything else is unacceptable!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:42 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    As for my staement above, my requirement for women that is!

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    Comment by Kyon
    20:09 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    lol... Finally a legit top list.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:26 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It's easy to call women evil just because you have no girlfriend.

    It's not like all women are like that, generalization is bad.

    Inb4:
    - It's a common trait in women, not all but most of them are like that
    - I DO HAVE A GF

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    Comment by steve
    20:43 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    wait for “9 Things Men Are Desperate For In A Women”. i got a feeling it will come up. XD

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    Comment by Manjix

    Probably will be a bullshit copy of this list stating that men are just gold diggers who wants to dig women's money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:51 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe someone who can cook better than men. Particularly me...

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:15 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    To fulfill those requirements, you'd need to kidnap, enslave, train, and discipline a woman for years ^^

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    Comment by Kiljoy616

    No guys only have 3 needs.

    1. hot, young, fantasy girls and fucks like there is no tommorrow.

    2. personality that fits what ever stereo "moe" type you can imagine.

    3. likes everything we like to do when we like to do it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:29 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    We Men are All Fucked! This list hurts, ouch

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:17 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Premise 1: We Men are All Fucked!
    Premise 2: Not by women!

    Conclusion?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:22 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    durr its a list of women's dreams, a mans list of dream woman qualities would be equally as absurd and full of rich famous women. Do people really expect women to be dreaming of landing a poor fat man who has no athletic ability or talent?

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:33 05/09/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    You faíl at funny.

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    Comment by Kirby
    00:11 06/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    thank god i live in germany...
    here most of the woman WANT to work and earn a lot of money.
    they don't live like some fucking parasites on the wealth of the man - here it's more important to be independent.
    every time i read a post about japanese woman i start to laugh

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:07 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Hoorah, gender equality

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:47 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Women are fragile emotionally they have "worth issues" - why aren't Men exploiting this?"

    Because men are mentally and morally inferior to women, so they can't exploit anyone.

    Any attractive woman can turn a man into her slave. Show a hint of skin and a man turns into a drooling moron. This site only proves it every day.

    Also, women do all the choosing in relationships, they control sex, and a man can only hope that a woman submits to him if she allows it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:06 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's NO different than in America. Women have all the freedom & chance to do everything now and what do they want? A man to do it first so she can sit on her ass and spend HIS money.

    Women don't want to work, they want their cake and eat it. Men should be pitting these broads against each other just males attention at this point. Women are fragile emotionally they have "worth issues" - why aren't Men exploiting this?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:58 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    He did better than you.

    Comment by Anonymous

    All the women who agree with 1-9 (excepting maybe 6) are trash not worth even looking at except for the occasional one night stand. I'm lookin for a more substantial woman, and since these apparently unsubstantial ones only look for unsubstantial men, I guess its a win win.

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    Comment by Rakshasa
    23:28 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.5)

    My brother married Japanese (yes, I'm in Japan too lol), and it took no more than half a year for her to get her hands on his back account.

    Now he's getting ¥20,000 allowance per month despite having a rather nice-paying job... When I heard about it I just laughed silently inside, having long known this to be the fate of all suckers marrying Asian.

    Single in Tokyo and loving it.

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    Comment by kazaza2
    00:01 06/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Sounds more like a marriage in the traditional sense. My dad used to hand over his paycheck to my mom (housewife) who then payed the bills, did the shopping,bought clothes and took care of us "monsters". He in turn got an "allowance" from her for smokes (when it was cool), beer with his mates after work etc. Nothing wrong with it as long as everybody's on board.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:34 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    That wasn't even true back in the 1950s. Revisionist history for the win!

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    Comment by HouseLife
    04:59 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @kazaza2

    It does make a lot of sense if the wife can keep a level head about the household if she is the one maintaining it. My grandfather traveled all over the world as a company president, and my grandmother HAD to do that stuff. The use of the word 'allowance' really sucks though, it completely denigrates the man and his work to have earned that money. I don't like that that idea took root. Even 'play money' is ten times more rewarding a title to describe the money a grown man is safely allowed to spend on his enjoyment. Not an allowance like he's still a child who is given it by the good graces he has no control over.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:57 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bitches should be just that. America fucked up by giving bitches an inch, then they took a mile. And now this cultural cancer is spreading throughout the world. Can't blame Islam for it's noble war of jihad against a culture as warped as the West's.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:27 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    So long s she does not spruce it all on LVs every single day.

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    Comment by kazaza2
    00:47 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Anon 00:27

    Lol! Price of 1 LV handbag ($600-800 US) probably would have paid the rent on the flat we lived in for a month and then some!

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    Comment by kazaza2
    01:24 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Raksha 00:43

    Actually if he went to work every day and she had control of the money it would seem he was the pet/slave not the other way around.:)

    I don't criticize things being like they were back then, they just "were". Today we've learned to do things differently (except in Japan I guess).

    Anyway, none of us kids went to prison or died
    or were abused,and they seemed to love one another so I guess they must have done somethings right.

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    Comment by Rakshasa

    I also live in the 1950's, back when it was 'in' to keep your wife at home like she was some kind of pet / slave who washed cloths and clean the apartment 24/7.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:49 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's actually traditional in Japan for the woman to control the finances. Most men even expect it. This isn't about gold-digging so much as living within your means.

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    Comment by kumesana
    17:25 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Traditionally yes, but who controls the finances have power to spend on gratifying things. And what's the point of having power if it's not to use it?
    Bottomline, while admittedly she's responsible of the savings, the woman gets to spend a lot and the man doesn't.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:22 12/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Those who think Japanese men don't spend a lot haven't seen them doing their hobby, not to mention that afterhours bar-hopping thing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:25 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Single in Tokyo and loving it."

    Pretty much. A woman's 300-point checklist gets thrown out the door when she's properly gamed. Women's gold-digging tendencies in a long-term mate are irrelevant anyways because no man should seek marriage considering the rigged game that is divorce court.

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    Comment by alidan
    21:34 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    you know, if i want to be bent over a table and fucked in the ass, i want it to be sexual, not financial... main reason i will never get married is because of the half your shit to her that divorce is, and the sick shit that alimony is, where you pay her because she is "accustomed" to living with so much money.

    Comment by Anonymous

    OMFG WTF.

    Comment by Anonymous

    You must be his brother then, no? :p

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    Comment by BlaqCat
    00:24 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Pretty much. Though I don't know if this list applies to my area. Here women seem to be the bread winners...

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    Comment by Kiljoy616
    23:19 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    3 of the top ones are not that hard to get the rest can be a bit tricky but if that's what women in Japan want then they better be super hot and perfect.

    He rides a cool luxury car. not really that hard to do

    He has mastered a foreign language or languages. really pff not a big deal

    He owns a condo in the best part of town. got it and not a big deal

    all else is just not really something you can just pull out your ass and do.

    Either way, what exactly are the women offering for these fantasy?

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    Comment by gyakusouhime
    00:03 06/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    The "Magic Bush" of course!!!!

    Comment by Anonymous

    What so magic about it...

    I could easily get laid with a tight virgin in Thailand(prostitution) than those bitches and whores who are probably loose with fucking and sucking all the money from the guys they laid with.

    Comment by Anonymous

    This is just Japanese women--if you can stop being such a pathetic otaku that you will consider dating women from other countries, you'll be fine.

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    Comment by OTIKA
    22:02 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Alright, but that beats the fucking point of the poll.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:33 05/09/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    But the thing is if u have something to give, then u can get a pussy in return. Its a take and give world. The guys who are loaded will not just sit back and watch them parasite their asses. What most would do is they will ask that woman to be A+ in bed, be smart, at least pretend to understand him well, and be loyal. The reason they keep switching women is that those dudes cant find someone fulfilling their requirements. Cus the more they have, the more higher standards they will put up. They didnt get that much money easily, these men work hard to get there in this world full of competition. So yeah.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:05 05/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    You honestly believe that people who are wealthy got their money from "working hard"? How fucking naive.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    01:52 06/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Most wealthy people got that way by convincing other people to work hard for them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:15 06/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    i am pretty sure, Bill Gate, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison work damn hard on their way up. They don't have to work hard now but on their way up they probably work harder anyone posting here.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    04:21 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @ Anon 3:15 Gates did just that he surrounded himself with the smartest people he could find and bought things he knew could sell.
    The last honest programming job Gates did was the firmware for the Tandy model 100 also known as the Kyotronic 85.

    Now on to MSDOS the product that built Microsoft.
    IBM went to Microsoft asking for an OS since they sold a product called the Microsoft softcard for the Apple II.
    IBM was new to microcomputers and the OSes they had ran on machines far more powerful then personal computers of the day.
    Microsoft did not have a DOS but the bought an OS called QDOS from a man named Tim Paterson which became MS-DOS.
    Tim Paterson eventually worked for Microsoft for a while.

    As for Apple Wozinak was the hardworker of the duo that founded Apple computer a rare combination of electrical engineer and programmer while Jobs was the one who had the gift of gab he could sell ice to Eskimos.
    The use of a back then expensive injection molded case for the Apple II that gave it a professional look that differentiated it from other personal computers of the late 70s was Job's idea.
    Biggest thing involved was risk all those people in your examples took a risk knowing they could fail.
    Gates dropped out of Harvard determined found his own company.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:11 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Anon 23:26

    "Arbeit Mach Frei"

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    Comment by kumesana
    08:45 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    > i am pretty sure, Bill Gate, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison work damn hard on their way up.

    As was already said, not quite, no.
    But even if you were right, you're quite disproving the point you were trying to support here.
    At the time, pretty much everyone with a clue in the field was trying hard to be a Bill Gatesor a Steve Jobs or so on. And the ones you cited did succeed. The supposedly work that was done, paid off for these three persons, and probably even for a handful of others.
    And the work did not pay off for absolutely everyone else.

    So implying you'll success if you work hard is now proven a lie. It is simply possible you'll success, with higher odds than the lottery. Now one can decide for oneself if it seems worth it. It seems obvious to me it's not worth it. Just be a good worker, give a comfortable life to your family, and pursue some values you're comfortable with in your worklife. That won't buy you all the chicks you want but that'll be damn safe enough a financial life.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:14 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Seeing as windows started off by stealing from other peoples OS's I don't think Bill Gates did a whole lot of work.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:02 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bottom line, success for an entrepreneur is simply a crap shot. They got lucky.

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    Comment by kumesana
    02:23 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    > Most wealthy people got that way by convincing other people to work hard for them.

    That's hard too, you know. But most importantly it leaves way too much to chance, otherwise way more people would do it. Hell, If I wasn't too socially inept for that anyway, I'd go for it if it left less to chance.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:09 06/09/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Naive troll accusing everyone of being lazy and on welfare is just speaking from their own experience.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:26 05/09/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Just because you are a lazy bum living on welfare doesn't give you a right to dismiss everyone who actually worked hard to get rich. Have you even tried to work hard before that statement?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:14 05/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I can assure you this is not only true in Japan. It is generally true in a lot of developing and developed Asian countries like Singapore and Malaysia. I'm not so sure about Western countries though; I generally feel that Westerners don't put finances so high up in their list of requirements... It's really an Asian mentality...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:09 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    China is the worst

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:48 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I generally feel that Westerners don't put finances so high up in their list of requirements.

    which is why the West also have a higher divorce rate. The kids marry for love then 12 months later, reality strikes(bills, bills and more bills).

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    Comment by Thomus
    23:53 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its more about the security with their mind, oh and lots and lots of materialistic hypnotism

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    Comment by kumesana
    01:10 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It does show in Western countries. With the propagation of web 2.0 thingies like Facebook I suddenly heard a lot about girls I was in class with in high school.

    'Oh hey [kumesana], long time no see, glad to find you on Facebook! If I remember right you were studying to become an engineer from that famous school, did you continue?'

    At the time I was already a geek and had no success with girls or other people, which was natural. But I don't think getting back speaking about my probable money-printing degree is all that much natural. I mean, that's pretty much my only possible interaction with females and bam! money in.

    I usually attach a picture with my answer. I don't really need to invite someone for dinner so they can tell me that my money won't make it up for my look.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:59 05/09/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Work hard? HAH. Most of the ones i know inherited the wealth. They'r just a spoiled grown up person. And the ones that actually worked hard, they'r just middle class workers(who think are high class). High education doesnt guarantee someone will be very wealthy. Those days are long, long gone. It has become an outdated concept of past society, the world has changed.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    01:32 06/09/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    It never guaranteed wealth even back in the old days.
    A good education will almost always get a better job but that's just becoming upper middle class.
    The saying you'll never become wealthy working for someone else is a very old one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:02 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    rotten people are usually born into good families. (old Danish saying)

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:57 05/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    He could be a fucking hobo for all I care, it doesn't make anything that he said any less true. Calling him lazy and jealous does nothing to address the points he made.

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    Comment by kumesana
    00:42 06/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The only kinds of hard work that have a high wealth success ratio require a few capacities which are hard to get after 18yo. And to be really, really, hard work. Dunno why even bother to marry and have a family, these people'll never see them, and for that matter, rarely have one-night-stands.
    Hell, I *know* someone who chose this path, she's bleeding rich, a very respected professional, she's ultra active for her age, and she never saw her kids, nor her former husbands after having a kid with them. Now she doesn't seem too happy to be alone and her kids wholeheartedly hate the little they know about her, and do not want her money.

    Working hard is like significantly upgrading the odds of the lottery.

    Comment by Anonymous

    That's bullshit. Get a graduate degree before you make generalizations. Only those lazy by nature set eyes on the ones who inherit and get jealous, because all they see is people being rich and not what lead up to it. Sure, some kids inherit, but someone had to do the work. How about not looking at the few very fortunate ones and start working hard yourself so your kid can be one of them?










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