“My Doujinshi Only Sold 3 Copies! I Want To Die!”
- Author: Artefact
- Categories: H, Manga, News
- Date: Aug 15, 2011 07:53 JST
- Tags: 2ch, Comiket, Doujinshi, Hidan no Aria, Illustration, Onanism, Parody, VIP Quality
Whilst tales of top tier ero-doujinshi circles netting tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in sales each Comiket are common, unfortunately for the vast majority of circles the results of Comiket are rather more humble…
From an exchange on 2ch’s VIP board:
“I participated in today’s Comiket and my sales didn’t hit ¥10,000… I want to die.”
“What did you sell?”
“I only sold 3 copies of 50 printed…”
“If you only sold 3, just upload it. Applications for winter have already begun, you know.”
“You sold each copy for ¥3000?”
“You couldn’t even sell 20 copies for 500 each?”
“You say only, but for a no-name circle to sell 20 isn’t bad at all.”
“I thought so too… how godly would I have been if I had sold 20! I want to die.”
“How much of a loss did you make?”
“¥12,000.”
“You just have to make the cover sexy and high quality.”
“How much did you flog them for?”
“¥500 a copy.”
“It’s actually amazing you sold even 3.”
“Show off your art, your art!”
“Uwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! What do I do with my stock!!! I can’t sell it come winter!!!1 Shit, die diei dife dfs1!”
“This is it you damn fools:”
[He quotes another poster posting about his doujinshi on another thread:] “I found a really bad one! It’s an Aria book, I laughed reading it! When I bought it, the author said ‘the illustrations have some flavour to them, yes?’ This is doujinshi quality!”
“This…”
“I’m sorry.”
“I laughed.”
“You could make this into some quality AA.”
“You guys have never been to Comiket, have you? There’s a lot worse that that…”
“Sorry, I laughed.”
“It’s not that bad. But for a ¥500 debut it’s not there.”
“It’s amazing this sold at all.”
“There’s always next year!”
“I’d buy this for a laugh. But only for ¥200.”
“I quite like the final panel there…”
“I can imagine the person who bought it onanising away with that expression.”
“I’m going to bed.”
Demoralised artists are advised to stick at it, for fame awaits the select few.
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oh, oh... oh wow, well shit went down fast for that guy/girl.
WTF! Be grateful you sold three copies!
I have to agree, the artist didn't do a decent job, proportions were not symetrical.
Also, one very very important detail,...
Do not & NEVER half ass the cover image.
If your budget only allows 1-3 colours, then the art had better be one of your best single pieces you've worked on for the last 24 months.
Because its the cover that will catch the eye of passers by, and anyone who comes to your booth.
If the actual art is just a duplicate of something already inside,.. This is an gurantee failure.
Cover art has to be original and one of a kind, preferably in full colour.
This is what sets the amatures appart from those who have been in the business for a long time.
Now if you've already got a following of dedicated fans,... Then yes its alright to have a shitty cover. Because your fans know they're going to be getting a treat.
Fact of life, if you fail your fans - you know they will crucify you online for being a complete failure.
my eyes... they bleed...
did that guy really expect to sell 50 of these things and perhaps make a name for himself?
Hey he already made a name for himself with just 3 copies sold... although not in a good way....
True. There are thousands of artists vying for attendees' cash...and many very good. Going in under-budget and under-effort proves worse than not going at all.
well no shit it didn't sell. it's hardly a fapping material. dude practice much more and do it again and if you can't do better: it's not for you, give up.
Sadly, even I can draw better, and I suck at drawing lol.
I hate answers like that. It kinda sounds self centered, even if it ends with "I suck at drawing"
Pics or it didn't happen
The drawing's such a hardcore fail that that'd be my reason to buy it.
DAT FINGER! Character is prolly some guy with freaky fingers. Quite the interesting angle the index finger has. Did it get broken while he was fingering her or fondling her bewbs? :D
There's something charming about such a raw drawing style. I'd probably buy a copy if I could.
“I can imagine the person who bought it onanising away with that expression.”
That one made the article for me
Dude, please hear these advice from this pseudo nooby self-proclaimed artist over here:
A.) Keep on practising. Hundreds of mangakas out there, ero or regular, started with skill like that.
B.) Sell them as softcopies in DLsite, you could at least sell as minimum as 12 downloads.
C.) Learn english and go to deviantart (I despise that site though) and start doing open commissions, people will eager to pay you $10 even for one lineart.
D.) Go for underrated titles. The less doujinshis that series have, the lesser circles you need to compete.
E.) I'm sorry to hear about your profit loss..
F.) Aria is that big?
I kinda respect a man capable of actually selling this shit in public.
indeed, couldn't agree more.
Even some artist or mangaka started off with bad or normal art drawing, but as time goes, they keep improving and perfecting their art and style. Even for veteran artist, some stop at a certain point and there is not much changes in art and style. Some keep proceeding and move on to a higher level. Some artist drawing became worst as the work goes on, perhaps lost of inspiration and spirit?
Though this person had some unreal expectation, and suffered embarrassment from poor sales but to be able to accomplish something with the skill he has is still worthy of admiration since many only enjoy what other creates and are not able to do the same. Something like all talk but no action. As long as he dare take this as a challenge and keep improving his basic art skill, style, symmetry and so on. He might have a chance to achieve a better results in future.
Last thing, I noticed that many harsh comments and criticisms. At times, I can understand why Japanese (same applied to the other nations) has a higher rate of suicide. It must be remembered that not everyone is as mentally strong as other. Some are fragile. Though making critics is everyone's right, but making too harsh comment or insult can sometimes lead to emotional breakdown/ depression. Well, you have watch and read those news, you should know better.
Yeah, to be honest..we only get a few assorted comments from the Japanese side around here. In case you don't know, when Japanese post on certain sites they shed each and every of their fake niceties. Sankaku is pretty tame, which is also mostly due to the fact that Non-Japanese are far more familiar with speaking their true minds and ignoring the idiots.
the printers prolly pittied him and gave him a few extra copies, while trying to keep a staight face.
I suppose that's the only thing about him I can admire, though he had a severe case of UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS...
I had some experience joining the doujinshi crowd at several local 'Comikets' before, since my last ex dragged me along to help her sell her shit. From what I could tell, most people enter such events with strong assumption that they won't even get return capital; that they are basically paying hundreds to the printing company just 'for the experience of selling doujinshi'. Even if your art is good in general, you still can't expect to sell more than half your stock because there's no guarantee that most people attending it would like your style.
What I want to know is why did he stock that much...? It seems like he printed more than 40 copies, which is crazy because most sellers don't dare print more than that if they're not popular up to a certain point. May be because of the ripoff printing company he got.
Perhaps that was their minimum? That would make the most sense, really. I don't know how their printers work over there though, especially ones that will print doujinshi.
Mutant loli? What's next? More squids?
I'd buy one for rarity
3 = bought it out of pity?
if you can't see whats wrong here, I recommand you to ask your "real" friends for some comments
I'm pretty sure this happened because he had no friends or family he could get real constructive criticism.
Or maybe it was all intentional for the lulz on the internet. He's jumping on the bandwagon for people to purposely fail and get fame on the net.
what does that bring to them? even he gets famous by that there will be a "fail" title tag attached on them...
...those eyes are very strange...
I'm with the guy who said he would buy it just for the lulz. This stuff is hilarious.
Makes me want to attend a comiket just to see the QUALITY that is there.
Needs more practice, yes?
Lol!
Guys fingers look like they broken in a rat trap (or maybe her snatch)and it look's like he's trying to hide an ICBM up her cootch!
Go home and practice some more! Fail!
The best advice I would give to that person is to keep going, giving up is the worse option. Your only as good as you want to be.
did any1 actucly say that thesae were pics from his
The faces look good on their own, his problem was probably drawing the faces first and connecting them to bodies later...
Yeah theres something about the faces and the body not connecting together properly
He should ditch the bodies and only draw good faces...
From one perspective.
A certain way to success!
Sounds like a certain aspiring hentai artist highschool girl.
Or university student, depending on the adaptation.
The manga is of course the original, but somehow the lovely Tsuyuri seems even more appealing as a university girl - even with my notable lolicon tendency.
That's what happens when you only draw ONE face and use photoshop to warp it for all subsequent panels.
Yeah it looks like the faces are clip arted together or something.
That and it seems he directly draws everything on the computer using using the pen tool. I applaud people who can directly draw stuff on the canvas but s/he needs to keep in mind that even most of the greatest artists out there start their artworks with sketches traditionally done by hands.
wait, seriously? I dunno about you, but those faces remind me of the Touhou "Yukkuri shite itte ne" heads (and from what I understand, those only caught on for their "so bad it's good" quality).
You can do it Beauty-Love~!
(props to whoever watched doujin work)
At least ya sold 3
Just by reading the title and see the picture I started to laugh... these expressions, really showing pain, right?
Christian Weston Chandler now has a Japanese equivalent.
Not really. It's really bad, but it's still a thousand times better than Sonichu. At least this guy doesn't use Crayola markers.
I'm willing to bet that the story-telling is better too.
Anon 08:56 is correct, I've seen the Sonichu comics and everything about it is completely wrong: from the characters, to the plot and setting to the puns, it's just plain wrong.
Also consider the one that made these; the Japanese guy may have a job and thus living a normal life yet the Sonichu creator is living on a "tugboat" or money given to "special people" which came from the taxpayers.
LOL that shit looks freaking ulgy LOL
I'd buy it... looks funny enough lol