China Pirates Aircraft Carrier

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The launch of China’s first aircraft carrier has been marred by accusations that it has pirated much of technology used in the ship, with Russia in particular said to be livid at the shameless copying of its aircraft designs.

The  carrier itself, just launched by China in order to complete sea trials, was originally a Soviet-built aircraft carrier sold to China by the Ukraine in 1998, known as the Varyag and not yet formally renamed by China.

According to naval experts, the ship is little more than a hodgepodge of technologies pirated from foreign “partners” in much the same way as China obtained its high speed rail system, bolted onto the mouldering Ukrainian hulk purchased in 1998.

Its radar system is said to be a “clear copy” of the Russian Fregat radar system, its close-in weapon system is, according to Chinese media, “based on a Dutch design,” one of its missile systems “closely resembles” a US-German design, whilst its optical landing system is said to be very similar to systems used on US carriers.

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Most controversially, the Shenyang J-15 planes intended for use on the carrier are illegal copies of Russian Sukhoi Su-33s, a fact which has incensed Russia, particularly after China began hawking its clones to the very nations Russia has been attempting to sell the originals to.

However, nations whom China is intent on menacing with its new fleet probably need not be too worried just yet – one expert wryly comments that “as with their high speed rail system, they’ve just made rushed copies of a bunch of foreign technology, so there is the possibility of all kinds of future trouble.”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    12:10 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    China bought the ship saying they were gonna convert it into a floating casino. Now it's a pirated aircraft carrier flying pirated aircraft.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:46 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Am i the only one who's thinking of the Orks from Warhammer 40k? Their entire technology is stolen from other races and prone to explode at every usage, lol :P

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:08 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    China = Mordor

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:57 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    From now on China should be referred to as Mordor.

    Trash found in an elementary school's soup pot? It happened in Mordor.

    Aircraft carrier mysteriously explodes? It happened in Mordor.

    Baby girls are aborted because they won't carry the family name? Happened in Mordor.... By Orcs.

    The little people threw the ring into the lava? Happened in China.

    Or is this too racist to force into a meme?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:48 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    true :D

    but still a dangerous faction

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    Comment by Kuraudo
    06:05 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Orks can loot anything.

    Just make sure China never gets a chance to make a looted version of the God-Emperor and we may make it out alive.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:54 27/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Made in China.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:25 13/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    "The carrier in question is a former Soviet warship, which was formerly called the Varyag.

    It is a relatively old design and it was not built by China. It was constructed in the 1980s for the navy of the USSR, but was never completed. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the rusting hull of the Varyag sat in dockyards in Ukraine."

    I do not explicitly understand what does 'pirated' mean. But clearly this aircraft carrier is bought from Russia. So how is buying a laptop the same as 'pirating' the laptop?

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    Comment by erochichi
    05:10 13/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Aircraft on that old Russian carrier are either bought from Russia, or built in China on Russian license.
    The ignorance of Sankaku as site is astonishing.
    If you want to criticize & ridicule China, there is plentiful of real, serious issues to do that.
    Some ideas, to begin with: Occupation of Tibet, threats against Taiwan, policies to keep dictatorship in power in North Korea,....

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:33 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It's called sensationalism. It's working great for Artefact. Thanks to that, it further proves ignorants/racists/sexists/hypocrites easily flock to places where they can make themselves feel better by hating on some other.

    The people here don't care about real news. People are here just for gossip more than anything else and there have been plenty users defending that they're here for "entertainment" rather than accurate news. "Ignorance is bliss" couldn't have been used better than now to describe the majority here. Though there are a few individuals here who at least has enough intelligence not to believe everything they read on this site or any other site for that matter I assume.

    What Artefact does is no different than your Fox News, CNN or BBC. What differentiates the lot is it's audience. But what the audience do have in similarites in general is simple. Pure and utter ignorance. They all go into a moral panic at the flip of a switch (which can easily be seen on a daily basis on this site from the comments).

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:22 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The problem is they're peddling the design as their own, when all of the parts are based off of the designs of other countries.

    If they acknowledged that it used those parts it would get suck a bad reaction, but the Chinese govt. only ever states that any of their products were "designed and produced by the Chinese" to attempt to circumvent intellectual property laws so they don't have to pay the REAL part designers a portion of the profits like they legally have to.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:30 17/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're overgeneralizing though, Russia is plenty mad at China for reverse engineering shopped tech and building it's own copies of much of the technology in it's indigenous arms industry.

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    Comment by erochichi
    22:07 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is well known among aviation enthusiasts that the Chinese military aircraft are mostly of Russia/Soviet origin. Chinese do modify aircraft types a lot, and they have some original designs too.
    Take MiG-19/Shenyang F-6 as example:that fighter aircraft reached it`s full potential and highest quality(!)first after years of work by Chinese refining it`s design. Yes, it is old story, but proves China can produce quality too.
    I don`t know details of this carrier issue yet.
    I don`t believe everything what either Chinese or American governments are saying either.
    That carrier is not a threat to US Navy, though. Not for Japanese either.

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    Comment by George
    02:15 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's purchased from Ukraine, not Russia, same as all associated technology and su-33 bps. Russia's sore only because Ukraine took their business.

    And yes, all those sales are perfectly legal. In addition, Ukraine explicitly sold the right to reproduce all hardware. It's a sensible move, after the old stockpile depleted, since they can't produce any more to sell anyway. The "piracy" issue existed only in Artefact's head.

    When the USSR fell apart, state property were given to whatever country that they happen to be physically located in. Ukraine ended up with large amount of military hardware that they can't afford to support. Obviously Russians built them, but they did so on someone else's land. Sucks for them, life's not fair.

    It's not just China and India buying existing technology instead of going through costly r&d. Europeans have also since scaled down their own r&d efforts post cold war. No reason to reinvent the wheel when it already exist.

    US is the only country those days still spending huge amount of money on developing new military hardware, thanks to the military-industrial complex. The rest of the world sees it as a resource drain, and instead opt to obtain new hardware through the most cost-effective way possible.

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    Comment by erochichi
    22:09 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, you are correct, but most now Ukraine military aircraft projects started when Soviet Union still existed.

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    Comment by Gitami
    02:39 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    The laptop casing is made in Taiwan, every other technology in the laptop is Simmonized from other countries and claimed to be self-developed. All they did could be adding a coding line to each technology so it explodes brighter and that would have fit the criteria of development on an old design.

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    Comment by Imyou
    02:23 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    It means they looked at the design and made their own copy of it without buying it or getting approval. Much like the bullet train that just crashed, the lakeside tourist town they're building, and just about anything else that comes out of China.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:35 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Did you know China has a train that is faster than the bullet train that crashed? It's pitiful that some people use Sankaku as their news site.

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    Comment by Imyou
    05:00 15/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    and what brand does it look like?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:52 15/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can't help loving China for this kind of thing. They pirate *EVERYTHING*: cellphones, computers, cars, trains, towns, airplanes, ships.

    It's kind of awesome in a fucked up way. "We are China! We steal your power and make it our own!"

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    Comment by MK 7 DUDE
    21:01 14/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    What's next? Tanks? Helicopters? Man, CHINA never fails to amaze me 0/_0

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:27 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    And then, they use it to pirate on the sea around them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:58 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yo Dawg, I heard you like Piracy. So I put pirates on your pirated vessel so you can pirate while you pirate

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:30 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Bitches love pirates.

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    Comment by TheBeast
    21:48 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    it'll be called "The Flying Chinamen" and they will pirate a cracken for it too. their first act of business will be to sink it to the ocean floor.

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    Comment by kazaza2
    22:46 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I heard Chinese sailing vessels were called "Junks" but this gives new meaning to the word!

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    Comment by Shima-kun989
    13:05 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah, and junkers aka JFA, wont be happy about china pirating their "J"+[number] naming system for aircraft. i mean really, what does the J even stand for? Joui? Joy?

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    Comment by Helldiver501
    12:08 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    China quality + lots of fuel + explosive weapons.

    I expect a really big boom.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    12:22 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    It will split the sea, Moses style, China-quality

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    Comment by Uncommon0taku
    12:43 12/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    or its bottom will split wide open and sink, in rough water - mebe.

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    Comment by konakona
    02:31 13/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    I'm guessing this too. Last time I expected an explosion it smashed into pieces instead :(.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    03:00 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Sell them the designs to Ares I and V and we should see some fire works.

    Really people talk about them being ahead in the space race but they have yet to actually get a probe to Mars ,their crewed vehicle only seats 3, and their rocket uses hundreds of tons of toxic propellants.
    If you are not in a country on the ITAR banned list you can literally go buy a better rocket and spacecraft off the shelf in the US.
    As for how this carrier will meet it's demise don't think it'll crack in two as the hull it's self is probably still sound but the insides are cheap and shoddy.
    So I expect it'll either loose power while in a storm and get grounded on a reef or be lost to fire when a fighter botches a landing or the missile defense system malfunctions.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:10 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Well~ you'al knew (if you read that is) that chinuck declared back in 2004 that they'd have a MOON STATION by 2014!!!!
    ~~~~~~
    If they "bought" the space shuttle designs from the very~Very willing obamarama camp. They should have Massive fireworks by the end of 2012! The moon is far~ faaaar away from their greedy sweaty pedorastic hands~~~

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    Comment by Mizushima 水島
    02:08 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ah so that was wut the Mayans predicted. not the world going boom but a china design going boom

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    Comment by Shima-kun989
    12:56 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    on the j-15 side, C&C generals has china using MiG's as their aircraft, so "technically", they already pirated it.

    Comment by Izumi_Chan
    10:59 14/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    instead of a staff
    china uses explosion SLOW MO STYLE boom

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:53 12/08/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    better than your quailty. You son of bitch. FUCK YOU and FUCK YOUR MOTHER!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:09 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    @16:01 Is there something wrong with his "quality" spelling and grammar besides not capitalizing the 'B'?

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    Comment by max
    16:10 12/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    say hi to your mother for me

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:01 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @Anon 15:53

    That's some "quailty" spelling and grammar there, bro.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:04 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Now that's "China quality" trolling for you!~

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:42 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Weak troll, prolly american.

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    Comment by The Kiss
    12:48 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    China: It didn't explode on its own! It's just the self-destruct feature being tested out.

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    Comment by Hayate
    14:35 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    or rather, "it got struck by lightning"....

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    Comment by Manjix
    16:06 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Nah, it's to "protect -their- technology" from being copied/pirated by foreign countries.

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    Comment by Ota-Kool
    18:06 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Can't wait to see it become a fish corral reef in the bottom of the sea.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:04 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They've been needing a new one since the algae claimed the others.

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    Comment by vanchrian
    21:49 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its a self-destruct device that calls upon lightning strikes to make the carrier explode to protect their technology.

    It will also conviniently give all crew-members an honarablr underwater burial in service of their nation.

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    Comment by The Kiss
    17:10 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Manjix: Oh the irony!

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    Comment by Geno-nii
    20:05 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    We'll know if it's self-destruct after we check the rubble.

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    Comment by Geno-nii
    08:51 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly.
    Pirated vehicle cemetery anyone?

    China's land area's prety larg. They could actually pull this off.

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    Comment by Astray Flame
    21:47 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    But China won't let anyone check it though because we might steal "their technologies" from the wreckage, so they may leave it in the sea or bring it back to be bury next to the train.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:24 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This carrier is gonna derail as well

    Comment by Izumi_Chan
    11:03 14/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    you forgot one thing
    China Q + Lots of Fuel + Miniature Nuclear Warhead + Explosive Weapons = EOTW

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:23 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Will Jamie be expecting it too?

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    Comment by karloz
    13:40 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    i just cant wait

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:38 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    China may soon create a war steal all their stuff someones going to get pissed

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    Comment by Gitami
    13:58 12/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    China will pirate war somehow.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:04 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    If by cheaper, you mean "it will randomly explode or fall apart", then I wholesomely agree.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:10 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    China if we can't make it ourselves. Well just pirate it and make it cheaper.

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    Comment by Geno-nii
    20:08 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's okay, we'd win by default anyway.
    Their fleet wouldn't make it to foreign waters since they'll most likely disappear midway.
    **cue self-destruct comment from somewhere up there**

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:36 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    But don't aircraft carriers use nuclear reactors? x_x

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:40 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Do your homework. In WW2 they run by fuel. Nuclear reactor come out later. Only a few can manage to have nuclear reactor. It's a double edge weapon though. Not so many could afford nuclear reactor carrier.

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    Comment by George
    01:28 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Majority of US navy carriers run on diesel, and even the nuclear ones are built in the 60s-70s. They're much older than that chinese carrier. The hulls are still good, you just have to keep the electronics updated.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:53 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...
    is this WWII?

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:21 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Doesn't mean all carriers have to run by nuclear reactor.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:07 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The carrier is from WWII :P
    just with a new paint job and some stolen add ons

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:47 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    no, not necessarily. sheeze...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:22 07/10/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    wtf ever show me your atomic jet fighter.. lmfao

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    Comment by Helldiver501
    15:32 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nuclear or not, still needs fuel for the planes.

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    Comment by Gitami
    13:57 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is it a nuclear carrier? That'll be a big boom.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:53 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow, lol, you remind me of another ignorant stupid coment on youtube about the recent fukushima reactor of how they were storing tons of nuclear spent fuel on top of the reactor and how he/she was surprised that all that huge ammount of nuclear spent fuel that was enought the blow a crater on earth the size of the moon didn't happen... LOL!

    Nuclear reactors/generators are different from a nuclear bomb kids!

    They don't just go 'big boom' if they go critical, old technology yes they'll cause an explosion eventually if not cooled but not an actual nuclear bomb explosion.
    Newer nuclear reactors like Thorium or molten salt based (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium) are already being chosen as replacement, what's hedious is how some huge accident had to happen in order for nations around the world start taking actions.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:30 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Bullshit. Salt reactors pose their own set of problems like much more strict requirements for plumbing, so nobody is choosing those. The concept is still in a fucking development phase, you idiot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:58 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They made chairs and watermelons explode; a nuclear reactor wouldn't be so far-fetched.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:34 12/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    the big bang is actually came from China










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