China Buries Train Wrecks “To Protect National Secrets”
- Categories: International, News
- Date: Jul 26, 2011 02:38 JST
- Tags: Accidents, Bizarre, China, Crime, Made in China, Trains
After an accident killing at least 39 people on its new high speed rail system, China has taken the unusual step of burying the wrecked carriages, claiming it needs to protect “national level” technology from being stolen by foreigners, despite widespread accusations that it stole the technology from them in the first place – and the suspicion that it is keen to conceal whatever caused the accident.
Chinese and outsiders alike suspect the authorities are literally covering up the real cause of the accident, though the government has vacillated between calling the wrecked trains “mere scrap metal” and suggesting they contain secret technology the Japanese or others might try to steal back from them.
Adding to the dismay, although 39 bodies have been recovered from the wrecks, many still remain missing and the government itself admits the death toll will rise – bereaved relatives accuse the government of cynically burying them along with the wrecks.
What happened to painstakingly investigating the cause of the accident, or for that matter properly disposing of the ruined trains, is not clear.
The earlier explanation that a lightning strike caused the crash seems to have been dropped, and the Chinese government’s main response has been to simply sack various officials involved in managing the line, to halt service on some lines and order nationwide safety checks, although service on the accident stricken line resumed rapidly.
Shares in China’s rail industries have plummeted after the accident, whilst Taiwan’s high speed rail system has been at pains to stress that its system is the same one Japan uses and is thus completely safe.
Aside from issues over technology theft and safety, there has also been some long-standing concern amongst critics of the system that the line itself is useless due to bad station placement and little more than a failed prestige project – one passenger explains his misgivings after riding it:
“I tried using it instead of the bus to get from Zhuhai to Guangzhou, as it takes 30 minutes rather than 2 hours 30 minutes. But even a month after opening there are no maps of where the stations are on the line’s site.
I had to take a taxi to the station, it took 20 minutes and I found myself at the station, out in the middle of nowhere.
Even when I got to Guangzhou, I had to take a 40 minute ride on the subway to get to the city centre. In the end it took the same amount of time as the bus, which was much cheaper. It’s putting the cart before the horse.”
Whilst not exactly shaping up to be a paragon of safety, the competition in this arena is in any case less than fierce – a few days after the accident, a Henan bus exploded killing at least 41 people in a fiery inferno. Authorities suspect the bus had been carrying hazardous materials.
Under the circumstances, it seems only a matter of time before exploding pirated trains hit the headlines.
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Only in China would the government think someone would want to steal shit.
More like a way to cover up the evidence of a "China quality" train so that they could sell it to other countries
I finally realized what all this China Quality news keeps reminding me of...
The movie "Pentagon Wars."
That movie truly made me cry back then, and then want to honestly kill some people. It still does to this day. And I finally realized why these articles have infuriated me far, far more than Ishihara's crusade, which by all accounts should make me far angrier because it's attacking ideas, and this is mere idiocy.
But now I understand that in every way China now is far worse than anything Japan has done in the past. It has surpassed even respecting itself and treats its own people as savages. Even with the past atrocities Japan committed to them, at least it made the distinction between itself and others. Somehow I think of the Eddie Izzard joke "...the only reason we let them get away with it is because they killed their own people. And we're sort of 'fine' with that." (He wasn't talking about China, but it's a global point.)
Ironically, China's complete lack of accountability makes me just that much more angry at our own country's (America's) lack of accountability, because we actually have an example of just how quickly things could become that way the minute we let those cocksuckers pretend they're more than the rest of us simply because they had the money to plaster their shit-eating grins on billboards at every corner and spout poetic, meaningless platitudes with no intention of following through.
Fuck modern America. Make it great again and give me a reason to respect it, or it may as well be China Light in a few more years.
Yes, I also sometimes find myself weighing the sleaziness of China in one hand, and my America in the other.
And the fact the train is made of human remains oooooOOOOooooh ghost train
And to hide any evidence of stealing technologies from ex-partners around the world and any possible source code on the trains computer :).
Now we know where Doomtrain hails from. Not from FH. Not from Esthar. Not from Cetra. It's from CHINA.
Well, in the past they built entire sections of the Great Wall out of the human remains of the workers who died on-site, so I wouldn't exactly put it past them...
Sigh, China China China *shakes head*
when will u ever learn.Burying yur crime wont get rid of it.Your suppose to blow it up
"shit" being the key word
The train would only be worth scrap.No one in the west would be interested in the technology because they already have access to newer versions of it.
You can get better high speed train technology to copy by buying a 20 year old TVG from France and reverse engineering it.
At least then you'd also get the safety systems which the Chinese left out.
The west may not be interested... but what about the Third World countries that are likely to buy these?
Ironic... considering we get China quality products more than anyone. If I see Made in China, I cringe... but there's almost nothing I can do. Like 90% of everything we have now is made in china. I shop almost exclusively at Trader Joe's, and they own everything procedure of every food they sell, and even there I have to be wary.
*burying chinese products in backyard*
A few months ago, a plane made in china crash in Irian, Indonesia.
They bought the plane because it is the cheapest one.
why would third world country try to buy these? most of these countries still dont have economical stability. it'll be a waste of tax money
Bzzzt!! *mouse stops working*
Huh?
*looks down*
Made in China
.....crap
*Trys to click add comment*
Doesn't work
*Press Tab and Enter*
Well any Third World foolish enough to to buy technology from China is in for a ride.
Well that is how "Capitalism with Chinese Characteristics" work. It is likely that the poorest Third World countries will suffer the brunt of China quality products.
remember : it's a country where people steal bricks. they can't be too cautious
no one wants to steal the blue prints of a train that crashed
Just wait a few weeks, that place will be swarming with salvagers.
Not to mention the land owner can't be happy with shit being buried in his field.
I can see the lulz in your comment.
But in seriousness. This is the mentality of every government in the world. Governments from every country is always trying to steal shit from other countries. Then tell other to stop stealing their shit.
china when would you understand that the world wants original goods. It should be pretty obvious to ya now. Think about it. Gunpla modelist only buy from bandai, k. Not TT hongli, Model GD or this gao gao crapthing. We want good quality gundams not some random scrap of plastic that barely even look like a head. either ya stop now or return that $20 i used to buy that kerberos becue hound. TT^TT it broke in two days
You don't want exploding trains?!
These are not exploding trains. They are flying trains. There's a difference.
You mean ICBMs?
china galaxy express 999?
just imagine flying trains....then imagine the Chinese knockoff version...
o.o
Why not exploding trains.... everything else there seems to blow up alot. Just search sancon for explosion and china...
lolololol, You fail China.... You fail hard.
Pai Mei sez:
"Now I have a train buried in my backyard? I already have a shaolin temple's worth of monks buried back there!"
I like how they think we foreigners won't dig some shit up. I'll start digging right now in my backyard in USA and meet you in your backyard in China and we'll see what's up!
They'll probably have 100 soldiers guarding the pit. No shortage of troops in the PRC.
Yeah, and you'll have to fight through the land of the lost and the mole people at the center of the earth.
Don't forget Spartacus and the Sun Beneath the Sea.
I guess that's true, although I think Fred Flintstone fucked a dinosaur once, and I had sex with a girl with a lot of moles one time, I don't know if that counts or not.
well it would be an opertunity to fuck a mole person and tie a dinosar into submission and fuck it too...
who can say they have ever doent that... i mean there are people who can say the fucked a monkey, or a dolphin, but who can say they fucked a mole person or a dinosaur
make sure to fuck the earth's molten core too
wtf are mole people... has that ever been a thing???
Pai Mei speaks the truth!
dont think ya wanna stick anything there
It's a shame. The same thing they did to Terracota army and the Mausoleum of Shi Huangdi. Chinese have an inherent instinct of burying anything to protect it from "greedy" foreigners.
Waiting for poetic justice.
@PhillB : "Waiting for poetic justice."
Their Enviroment.
I can see the ending-keima katsuragi
yeah , i really can. The governments actually tryed to bury it because it was still loaded with c4, but some sankaku dude tried to dig it up and it exploded and destroyed all of asia. Just trying to warn ya papuanewguineapunk. My mg exia ignition mode order is still not delivered to me yet.
Guess you should have used your five finger palm exploding heart technique on the government officials
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You don't need to bury it, China. We all know the secret. The technology ia stolen.
And someone will dig them up and sell it to another country?
They're hurting themselves too much trying to conceal it. We should just laugh at them when they fuck up like this. But lets support the victims of their greed.
NB4 a chines nationalist or one of their paid internet goons posts trying to misinform anyone of their countries complete corruption
Also NB4 America is just as corrupt. we know their is some corruption in our government but there's a difference between a little corrupt and completely corrupt.
China is far more corrupt man. Dont even try to argue that. As long as Communism is still in place, China will forever be more corrupt than the US.
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So....what you're saying is "We Americans are allowed to be as double standard as much as we like"?
Nothing new there if that is the case.
We are still a somewhat free country. we all can have our own opinion we aren't silenced or killed just because our views are different.
It would be ridiculous or maybe just plain idiotic to believed you could get everyone's opening to be the same no mater what country you are talking about.
So your country has the same double standard though its citizens may be to afraid to speak up.
Unless you are one of the 1M+ alleged terrorists living in the USA who can be wiretapped and kidnapped at the sole discretion of the NSA. And there is no due process for whoever goes on that list, so you can probably end up there if you upset someone high up enough.
See: PATRIOT act
the ignorant teenagers who thinks America is just corrupt had no right to say so because chances are they've never lived in China as Chinese citizens and therefore their comparison is moot.
You shouldn't be calling other people ignorant when your best argument is a personal attack followed by a red herring.
Living in China is probably the worst way to understand it's corruption as that's the only place in the world you can be shot for even talking about it. And age is not a measure of one's knowledge or mental capabilities. Sounds like you are butthurt because someone dared badmouth your country.
@01:20
You would find that the Chinese government can make you do whatever the hell they please if they manage to get to you.
They've been known to detain vocal people before and they don't shy from it.
@21:31
Not exactly. While it's true that the US government uses a lot of misdirection tactics ("OMG terrorists, hand over your freedoms!"), the Chinese government tends to manipulate their people into doublethink ("if you are a good citizen you won't question us"). Both don't exactly have a stellar history of upholding human rights.
I doubt the US government is intentionally trying to keep the masses ignorant, considering that the root of the problem has always been education, which is hardly a new problem in the US. Never the less, you can count on politicians to turn absolutely anything to their advantage.
How could they not "let info out in the first place"? they couldn't stop someone with evidence from spreading it around.
Look guys, it's not rocket science to see the comparisons.
China hardly tries to hide their corruptness through white collar methods. But instead through bullying and enforcement. While America tries not to let info out in the first place, keeping the masses as ignorant as ever.
Ones is brazenly admitting their crimes through actions and the other locks up theirs in a blackhole. The only difference is methods. So either way it doesn't matter whether you live there or not since you can be equally kept in the dark.
... sounds like you're Chinese
Agreed. The lack of accountability in China just adds to the problem.
seems america likes blowing things up too. sept 11, iraq..
America is a big chunk of land and not a sentient being, capable of manipulating people into suicide bombings or governments into military operations.
The WTC bombings may have been used to the best extent possible, but the damage from the attacks has been far more catastrophic to the economy than the benefits the US stood to gain from all that.
If there really was a psychotic government agency willing to blow their own citizens up then why not just blow up a bunch of schools and hospitals instead? Far more emotional effect and only minor infrastructure damage done.
Attacking symbols doesn't do much, and only stupid, fanatical people who live around their ancient fairy tales can possibly believe it does.
@01:05
Never assume malice for what can adequately be explained by human stupidity.
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IS TROLL FOOD.........
LOL dude dude dude. hes trolling you. please don't feed the trolls.