Tokyo Manga Ban Now In Effect

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Governor Ishihara’s initiative to rid Tokyo of depraved 2D filth has finally come into effect on the first of July, making it a crime to distribute any anime, manga or game the government deems “unhealthy” without consigning it to the same channels hardcore porn is distributed by.

In the best traditions of Japanese law making, the law itself is vague and its application is entirely in the hands of unaccountable civil servants and very nearly unaccountable politicians like Ishihara and his deputy Naoki Inose, both of whom have made their loathing for manga, anime and games no secret.

The law itself specifically targets (2D) content which “improperly glorifies or promotes illegal sexual activity,” a notably broad definition which Tokyo, for the time being at least, has clarified as specifically targeting “works depicting women enjoying being raped or incest as being fun.” It is widely expected that underage sexual activity (i.e. anything involving schoolgirls) is intended to be part of the ban in due course.

The actual scope of the law excludes novels (otherwise Ishihara would be in the unique position of banning his own novels, which feature lurid tales of underage rape) and photographic material. Although drafted with manga foremost in mind, it is also intended to cover anime and, in principle at least, also supplants Japan’s game censorship regime.

The letter of the law also suggests events such as Comiket are now technically illegal, and if permitted are only allowed to continue on government sufferance – at present the only thing supporting Comiket’s legality is a series of tweets by vice governor Inose in which he invents various legal arguments, such as that Comiket is in “festival space” and that doujinshi publishers are not actually “publishers” and so are not covered by the ordinance.

The law has already been ferociously criticised by mangaka and the publishing industry for its vagueness and indiscriminate nature, with many concerned that fear of the ban alone will cause nationwide “self-censorship” so as to avoid being shut out of the mainstream publishing industry.

Several high profile works, such as Akisora, have already been banned, but it is likely that the majority of the law’s effect will be from publishers quietly cancelling or declining to publish material they feel Ishihara might disapprove of, as some mangaka have already reported.


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    Comment by Hikayuri
    15:29 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I smell to-love-ru, I mean, trouble.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:24 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Ban? What ban? Here's more tentacles.

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    Comment by tyciol
    07:47 13/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Our tentacles are in danger.

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    Comment by Andices
    17:20 01/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    to-love-ru Darkness

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    Comment by Dosky
    15:37 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Was thinking the same thing all the article...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:40 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wouldn't they just need to classify it as mature and thats it? Is not like fans will stop buying it just because it have a 18+ tag on a corner = \

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    Comment by HouseLife
    19:13 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    The current thought process is that if it's considered adult, then it is taken from major publishing locations, and as such, kills sales. But with this ban, it may actually reverse that entirely. It may be so widely understood that the ban went over the top that people will actually MAKE an adult manga and anime section that will entail far, far more than anyone anticipated, and in the near future, people will recognize it's not taboo to go into the section. If you walk out with Azumanga Daioh, who gives a shit? You could even proudly look in the eye of the clerk knowing that nothing you bought is in any way wrong.

    This is just going to be very strange. As long as the publishers adapt to it reasonably, everything will be fine. Nothing even needs to be cancelled, they just need to re-classify it. But them being reasonable, responsible, or adapting at a speed faster than petrified molasses is proven false so far. Here's hoping this does what it's supposed to do. Make people angry enough to take action.

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    Comment by Elcachetondelpuro
    00:42 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Japanese people feeling proud of something not related to work? What alternate universe are you talking about, Houselife? Sorry to say that, but Ishihara is a clever motherfucker, he knows the culture of his country & with this, people would be so ashamed that now most of manga would lost all the "casual readers".

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    Comment by ryusoma
    18:30 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    See my post.

    tl;dr To-Love fans are teenage tards who get exciting seeing dry-humping, and are too young to buy real H manga. Exactly what To-Love'll be competing against when it gets relegated to the Adult section, so how well you think it's going to sell there?

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    20:54 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Also, adult sections in Japan are considered a 'touch of death' for sales. It's almost like how it's perceived in the West. Except Japanese parents and older generation actually believes adult-sectioned entertainment causes insanity and turns one into a social degenerate. If people don't have parents from there, they wouldn't understand how literally they take the governmental fears of risque manga/anime/games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:35 03/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "I don't like soccer, because it appeals to the lowest common-denominator of the human beings. Soccer should be banned too. Yeahhh"

    You're THAT retarded.

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    Comment by ryusoma
    23:31 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    -Posting on Sankaku about your love for harem anime hardly qualifies anyone as 'normal' or a typical example of demographic..

    To-Love appeals to the lowest common denominator in a widely-published format. And now the carpet's been yanked out from under it. No wonder publishers of terrible, one-trick-pony manga like it are cowering and simpering. Ishihara's just killed their golden goose.

    >>Also, adult sections in Japan are considered a 'touch of death' for sales. If people don't have parents from there, they wouldn't understand how literally they take the governmental fears of risque manga/anime/games.

    Gee, I wonder if that's what Ishihara was counting on?? It's almost as though he knew he could FUNCTIONALLY ban something, without having to LITERALLY ban something which might ACTUALLY incur the wrath of the legal system and generate some sort of plausible freedom of speech challenge which even in Japan would still get paid lip service to.. not just a bunch of publishers grovelling about having their free lunches stolen.

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    Comment by Castian
    23:10 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I totally refute your comment, im a marred 28yo,working lad, my wife and me both loved To-love anime as much as many harem animes.
    if you think those animes are only for pubertous virginal males,sir you are an idiot.

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    Comment by Castian
    07:31 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    yet if YOU dont like them, its easy enough. don't watch them, the thing is i find ppl who likes soccer to be uneducated and dumb, BUT while i strongly belive that, it dosent make it an absolute truth, in the same manner your rant about harem/ecchi anime its invalid. like not every soccer player its a dipshit (i think otherwise) not EVERYONE who likes harem/ecchi anime its a perverted fapping-all-day teen.

    sometimes my friend its just because those are funny, enjoyable o even interesting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:23 01/07/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    "To-Love fans are teenage tards who get exciting seeing dry-humping, "

    Which is precisely why I approve of this kind of bans. Stupid teenage retards. Why don't they try and make something out of their lives instead of fapping to ero manga shit?

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    Comment by Actar
    15:43 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    I cannot for the life of me understand why people like censorship. Honest to god, if you don't like it, DON'T. READ. IT. Why the hell spoil the fun for everyone else?

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    Comment by kazaza2
    01:27 02/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    @ Actar 15:43

    Because the alternative puts a strain on their intellect and causes headaches. Giving the government the responsibility frees them to eat,sleep,shit,fuck and perform the other functions of good barnyard livestock.

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    Comment by Actar
    06:21 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    (Slightly off topic but...)

    This then begs the question... Why in the world would you want to have children in the first place? Even if it was an accident, there's something called abortion you know?

    I think it's highly selfish and irresponsible for people to bring a life into this world if they don't want to take responsibility for it. For instance, I just can't stand the fact that some parents just dump their kids at day care centers or leave them with relatives or their maids for 20 hours a day.

    If you are not ready for it financially, emotionally and whatever-ally, don't have kids.

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    Comment by kazaza2
    07:39 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Actar 06:21

    I agree with you, I think some of it is social pressure from parents, relatives and married friends. It's expected of them. Married people who don't have children are viewed as selfish.

    Even a healthy child is a tremendous drain on finances, time and emotions.It can manifest itself in friction and resentment between the couple and also the child.

    I honestly don't know if most parents are emotionally mature enough when they bring a new life into the world. I don't know who would make that decision. I certainly wouldn't want the government doing it. Too much like Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World".

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:39 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The industry is becoming a monster of porn, the majority wants porn and no substance, there is no democracy in business, whoever pays the most will get what they want and then they ruin it for everyone else, not the other way around.

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    Comment by demonhaseo
    16:29 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Apearantly cuz they fear it's "Dangerous material children can read" since japan doesn't have a rating system for stuff besides games... as far as my research has gotten my that is. I may be wrong, I may be right... if i'm wrong don't harp on me people I'm only human.

    All in all though... DOWN WITH iShithara!!!

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    Comment by Actar
    16:38 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Another case of parents not wanting to take responsibility for what their children read and watch.

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    17:01 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    It seems no one wants to raise their kids.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    19:20 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    @ Nakkinyan

    Nobody does. Here's the honest truth. In most first-world nations, children are objects. The concept of having to be 18 to be considered an adult, the idea that they don't have their own rights or responsibilities until 'legal age,' these have all swung entirely opposite of the days when child labor existed and children were given responsibility.

    Don't get me wrong, the child labor laws were correct and a great step, but now it's become coddling. Children are treated as objects that must remain cute for as long as possible, devoid of thought or reason and act wonderfully. Nobody cares to know why, or even pretends to know why children do anything, which is pathetic because they were kids once as well.

    The most hilarious irony is that the people who seem to actually recognize children as humans are pedophiles. It's laughable how that can be. Of course there are parents who raise their children, but they truly are few and far between. Most of them don't know anything at all.

    We are federally mandated to learn how to operate a motor vehicle that has a complex set of directions and processes to understand before we can use said vehicle in public. We even must take tests to be certified.

    This MUST happen for parents. A child psychology course needs to become a necessity for all of our cultures. If you're going to make a child, take the fucking time to make it right.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:42 01/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Dayum! That is deep Doc!
    But you forgot to mention the parents that have multiples because the first one was a "mistake".

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:27 01/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    A cild psychology course for children would be good, but doesn't workf for our kind of society. We need uneducated people to do shitty jobs.

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    Comment by Elcachetondelpuro
    00:43 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I fucking hate kids, never want to become a parent ¬_¬ parenting sucks.

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    Comment by Castian
    23:16 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mr. Houselife you just said one glorius truth.

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    06:34 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    My brother and I were actually raised by my parents and they didn't interfere much and we are not out murdering, raping or stealing. I also got spanked (something else parents are not allowed to do any more) it is no wonder the schools I went to are full of fucked up kids now with sue happy parents, I swear the parents wanted the kids as a trophy and then want the city/fed to raise them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:25 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    With all due respect, Houselife, one person's idea of 'making a child right' is not another person's.

    Many people dislike that people don't brainwash their children with the idea that sex is 'bad and wrong', and would LOVE to force people to brainwash their children with that.

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    Comment by gyakusouhime
    04:43 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Elcachetondelpuro

    Romans had the right idea "Pater Familias".
    When they piss you off you can drown them!

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    Comment by yuriphoria
    20:54 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    In a way, this is the beginning of the end of the era of ero Japan.

    Japan is well known for two things. eromanga and it's low sex crime rate.

    While I'm sure that some of the fags that complain about ecchi anime (even here on sankaku) will love this ban this is nothing but cultural imperialism from Occident and Occident appeasing peons.

    As a social experiment Japan demonstrated that high availability of soft ero content worked well in society.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:31 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    You sir [censored] [censored] [censored] a [censored] [censored] of [censored].

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:36 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Phew, it's a good thing you censored most of that statement, otherwise my children could have wandered onto this site and read it, possibly being negatively influenced by its contents. If we can enact more censorship, then I won't need to worry about parenting my children at all!

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    Comment by Kudryavka
    22:55 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Parenting my children? What nonsense are you on about? They can look after themselves! Pfft.

    In all seriousness, I find it distressing to see so many irresponsible parents these days... :<

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:01 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Everything is backwards now! America is getting less censorship while Japan is trying for more!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:48 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You guys just made my day !

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    Comment by TNinja
    09:01 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    If the aliens were to greet Japan leaders, they would die by laughter and there will be a large scale alien vs human war.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:25 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    omgwtfbbq i see this site in mosiac

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:33 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    MOSAIC? nah, they will just set up an Internet Iron Curtain and block the entire nation from this site, just like Iran/Iraq/Middle East does for Facebook/Social media

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:48 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    just one thing... if ishihara is going to ban those kinds of materials... wouldnt his works become banned as well he is just showing what kind of hypocrite he is since he is a rape novelist which is a lot worst since your imagination works a lot more in another level to see an image of whats happening than that of seeing it in 2d... its just my opinion though ***

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    Comment by kazaza2
    08:23 02/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Rape and older men with teenage lovers is a pretty common theme in Japanese literature.

    Naomi by Junichiro Tanazaki 1925.

    Utsukushisa to Kanashimi by Yasunari Kawabata (Nobel Prize Winner) 1961.

    Just to name a couple.

    Actually Ishihara was a really good friend of author Yukio Mishima (also nominated 3 times for the Nobel Prize in literature) whose tetralogy "The Sea of Fertility" is considered a masterpiece.

    Mishima was an extreme right winger who actually had his own private army "Tate no kai"
    (the shield society) in the 1960's which was made up of university students who vowed allegiance to the emperor. On November 25, 1970 Mishima took over the Tokyo Headquarters of the Japanese Self-Defense Force. He failed in attempt to foster a coup d'etat and commited seppuku and was beheaded by one of his men.

    I'd be more concerned about Ishihara's right wing politics than his so called "rape novels"

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    Comment by FreeHopper
    20:32 04/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    >You sir [are] [really] [quite] a [silly] [employee] of [government].

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    Comment by owi2000
    20:14 01/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    The actions taken by Ishihara and his cronies strikes me as being very similar to the unreasoning hatred that homophobes have towards homosexuality. It's not that they hate it, they hate the fact that they're so attracted to it.

    I think he's a closet otaku, is ashamed of it, and doesn't want anyone to find out. He probably has a huge collection of loli figures squirreled away in his closet.

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    Comment by Lamberto
    01:04 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    >Homophobes
    >Attracted to homosexuals
    Son.

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    Comment by owi2000
    01:14 02/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Google it. They've done studies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:54 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's rather shortsighted. There are many reasons people object to homosexuality. There are many cultural reasons too, and I thought the liberals who preach accepting homosexuals would also preach accepting all cultures. Apparently this is not the case. They only respect cultures that are convenient to them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:26 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, there aren't 'many reasons'. 99% of the time it is nothing more than fear of the unknown and having been brainwashed with religious bullhockey.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Or maybe he just hates how otakus have becomes worthless dregs of society just fapping to stupid ero anime and manga, have you thought of that?

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    Comment by owi2000
    00:16 02/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Yeah, I thought about that for a couple of seconds after reading your post. But then I realized that you're just an Anonymous troll that took personal insult from my homophobe statement and that your comment had no merit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:39 06/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    so ero manga is wrong but hentai manga an anime is ok? o.o talk about hypocrite >.>

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    Comment by demonhaseo
    10:49 06/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ anon 15:51

    Yeah, i'm not a basement dweller I live in my own bedroom and have a job and a normal social life :D so Suck on that bitch!

    Also you're a fucking shithead, it's equally as natural to fap to anime girls as it is to fap to normal woman. It's all about taste, some times I' get bored of seeing normal women and got o anime, and other times I go to anime to see things that cannot be done in reality :P.

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    Comment by Actar
    06:25 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...and fapping to regular stupid ero live-action porn is different how? ('.~)b

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:51 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Actar

    "...and fapping to regular stupid ero live-action porn is different how? ('.~)b"

    It's much less pathetic and more natural, for one.

    @owi2000

    Whatever, but at the end of the day, you and all your pathetic basement-dwelling friends will have one less fapping material. So HAH, touch luck, shithead.

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    Comment by AmusementEngineer
    18:24 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Big Brother is watching you m9( ̄ㅅ ̄)

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:29 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because people are just that stupid.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:36 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Plenty of morons are offended by even the THOUGHT that others might read something they don't approve of. It's kind of insane actually...

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:37 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've said it before and I'm saying it again. Mangaka should move their assets outside Japan, as they don't agree with the current law. This would teach some lessons to politicians about not cannibalizing an important source of income for the Japanese economy.

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    21:06 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Censorship is an act done by cowards and dictators/tyrants guilty of something.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:06 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    fuck Ishihara Dororron Enma Kun has finished and showed a lot of under age sex.!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:35 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    this isn't exactly censorship. its still legal to sell the stuff, just not to minors

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:19 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It IS censorship, just very sneaky. Look at your own comment for proof, you don't even notice.

    Consider the boiling frog analogy.

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    15:46 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because some fucktard decided to come up with the term "for the children"... moralfags.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Hah, suck it you sick freak.

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    Comment by jizz
    19:17 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    this is nothing compared to shitty US bill S.978 which wants to ban internet basically :/

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    Comment by Pyrus
    19:04 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    People like censorship because people have weird ideas on what they think is appropriate for everyone else to know or think about at any given point in time: See what we think you should see; hear what we think you should hear; know what we think you should know; think what we think you should think; and do what we think you should do. That's the whole point of censorship.

    Comment by Anonymous

    The majority wins. If you want to go against what the majority wants then go ahead. Just don't go whining like the shitty fucks that you are when you lose.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:22 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    and infact, the "majority" is against this nonsensical censorship...

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:52 02/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "and infact, the 'majority' is against this nonsensical censorship..."

    Society is against this censorship? HAH. Dream on, perv.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I cannot for the life of me understand why people like law and order.
    Honest to god, if you don't like to act like a homicidal maniac, DON'T. Why the hell spoil the fun for everyone else?

    Comment by Anonymous

    'I cannot for the life of me understand why people like censorship. Honest to god, if you don't like it, DON'T. READ. IT. Why the hell spoil the fun for everyone else?'

    I can't for the life of me, understand why some people don't like Holocaust Revisionism. If you believe the Holocaust happened, that's just your opinion. Don't force it on other people.

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    Comment by Fred
    20:01 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    A holocaust revisionist novel would receive more protection in some countries than a picture book with drawn images of SEX...

    Now if that ain't some fucked up priorities.
    The problem with censorship is that those doing the censoring are often unelected, corrupt, or misguided to the point of being useless.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:42 01/07/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    You are dimwit.

    It is obvious that your argument of "if you dont like it dont see/read/observe it" is naive at best.

    Should everything then be legalized based on this argument?

    Would you draw the line anywhere?

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    16:57 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Ya, when REAL people are hurt you have crossed the line. Was that so hard??

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:04 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    So the funnies:

    The corrupt are preventing the young from being corrupted while still selling corrupting material.

    I'VE GOT IT! He wants to monopolize CORRUPTION!

    eh?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:25 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    What's that? Monopolize CORRUPTION? This cannot stand! CORRUPTION should be free!

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    Comment by Mauvais
    19:00 01/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Consider Ishihara's very deliberate omission of written material from his his ban. The man has published multiple written works which depict abduction, drugging, gang rape, and murder, with most of the victims underage girls. In more than one case, his books inspired copy-cats.

    Meanwhile, he aims to restrict the animation industry from depicting various sexual situations, using vague wording in his laws so he can extend this power further yet. He claims his actions are in the interest of preserving public virtue, while he continues to create works which involve many similar, questionable themes.

    Ishihara abuses his power by limiting the actions of the anime industry, while preserving his own outlet, the written word. Perhaps in his mind, "evil" thoughts are not all the same, and that painting an image of them is somehow worse than describing them in detail.

    He is a hypocrite. He is corrupt. He is a spiteful man who bullies those who don't fight back. He is the kind of man who makes offhand remarks about otakus and gays having defective DNA, and that tsunami victims were punished for greed. Whether or not you agree with censorship or how legal it is, you should never agree with a man of such character. The point is: Governor Ishihara is a disgrace, and he has no right to be making decisions for others.

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    Comment by Castian
    23:20 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    easily enough,every time a fucktard like that postulates, go and vote against it. otakus,gamers and casualiers are far more numerous than old'coots.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:20 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hear Hear Hear!!
    I wonder how you kick him out? short
    of killing the wanker










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