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The news that 45% of Korean children apparenently consider their nation’s principle enemy to be Japan, with less than half as many considering North Korea as grave a threat and a further 20% actually believing the USA is a worse enemy than either of them has lately been stoking much comment.

The survey reportedly questioned students in over 400 South Korean middle and high schools in an effort to establish the views of South Korean youth on their nation and its security situation.

44.5% of those questioned reported that “our nation’s number one enemy is Japan,” compared to only 22.1% who thought the same of North Korea (with whom the South is technically still at war) and 19.9% who believed South Korea’s greatest enemy was in fact their major ally, the USA.

12.8% meanwhile felt the biggest threat was actually the friendly dragon of China, and a tiny 0.6% worried about the pernicious influence of Russia.

Korean media interprets all this as “the result of Japanese perversion of history and territorial demands worsening the image of Japan amongst the Korean youth,” although it seems they are silent as to why their supposed allies America and Japan are considered greater threats to South Korea than the neighbouring totalitarian dictatorships currently allied against them.

Regarding the apparently minor problem of a third of the Korean nation still being enslaved by a ruthless dictator, 59.6% did at least believe that “further Northern provocations should be met by counter-attacks and firm measures,” compared to 27.7% who would rather pursue the so-called “sunshine policy” of appeasement.

However, nervous allies fearing betrayal may not have too much to worry about (except for what happens if this generation is attacked) – 58.8% of those asked responded that if war came, they would abandon their country and flee overseas, versus 21.6% who would be prepared to stay put and do nothing and a mere 19.8% who would be willing to fight to defend their homeland.

2ch is known to froth at the mouth at the mere mention of their peninsular neighbour, and as ever does not disappoint:

“First free your countrymen.”

“They have no connection to reality. Japan, at peace, is their worst enemy? They may have a ceasefire but South Korea is still at war with the North, you know?”

“They are really engaged in educational propaganda on a massive scale over there.”

“Who cares if the people you hate hate you.”

“The Net-uyo are going to go crazy.”

“Anyone who says Net-uyo is bound to be a Korean. Watch out.”

“The statistics must be faked.”

“To be liked by a country like that is a terrible thing.”

“Probably get the same results if you asked Japanese, as long as they weren’t the ones on TV.”

“Takeshima.”

“That last bit about them wanting to flee their own country kind of sums it up.”

“The only ones warping history are the Koreans.”

“Who cares.”

“If the results are really like that, shouldn’t South Korea ally with China and the North?”

“Korea is really indoctrinating its people to think Japan is its major enemy. For Japan to be so incautious is really dangerous.”

“The anti-Japanese education Korean children receive:”

“Which country do Koreans actually like? If you did a survey on it you’d probably find Japan near the top.”

“Korean history – ideal:

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“Actuality:”

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“Please hurry up and rescue your poor countrymen from the enemy nation of Japan.”

“They’ve always been like this. It’s nothing new.”

“If half their population is nuts its probably better to have nothing to do with them.”

“Japan is more threatening to them than the country they are still at war with… nice one Japan.”

“It’s a good result. Despite it being totally ridiculous, they’re pointlessly increasing their air and naval forces to counter their fears of Japanese attacks. The North is massing troops and artillery, all aimed at the south. When China dumps them and they get desperate, they’ll only have one place to attack.”

“Why would you even take a survey like this?”

“I just hope the ones who flee when war comes don’t come to the coutnries they say they view as enemies.”

“There was that famous street interview with Koreans in Seoul where they said if America attacked the North, they’d attack Japan…”

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    Avatar of Tenshi_
    Comment by Tenshi_
    20:48 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eh... this is old news... Although the older generation might hate Japan because of what they did to them during colonization, us new generation are not like this. These are just handful of children who were indoctrinated by older generation who still holds grief towards Japan.

    Seriously, writing something like this where making others generalize our whole country is not cool.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    20:52 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Not sure what to think of the 'ideal vs reality' thing other than that you won't find a more peasant-driven nation than Japan in history even if you tried.. And all those legends of samurais and ninjas are some of the worst examples of embellishments of myths as a semi-history in this world. Imagine George Washington mythical stories X 100.

    And didn't Korea basically turn totally modern and become one of fashion meccas in 100 years? Japan tried to copy Europeans for hundreds of more years to get to this point.

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    Comment by Moshi
    23:21 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Not trying to stir up a debate here, but I think the implied point was that Korea has been embellishing its history in many ways other than its embellishment of the atrocities by Japan, by presenting its civilization in a much more civilized way than it was, as reflected by the "unorganized thatched roofs and topless people in Seoul" state that existed as late as the introduction of western photography- which was simply untrue in major Japanese cities.

    Read: I don't hold the same opinion. Francis Bigot makes many caricatures of Japanese life that are as non-conforming to the western notions of lady/gentleman as the above photos, in the later Meiji period.

    On another note, your statement "Japan tried to copy Europeans for hundred of years" implies that Europeans were ostensibly more advanced during that time period, and that isn't true in the areas that Japan took in: crafts, weaponry (up until 1600), and religion (advanced or not is a nonissue). In the Meiji era, Japan went from peasant-fueled feudalism to post-industrialism in a matter of decades.

    Avatar of Shippoyasha
    Comment by Shippoyasha
    23:31 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, it's not that Japanese culture was inferior in any way, other than how its leaders kept looking towards the Dutch and other European nations on the art of nation building, modern economy, modern army building, etc. They didn't emulate them full time until Meiji era, but they were always on a communicable basis. Which is why the 'closed port of Japan' is not entirely accurate. Plus, many shogunates of 1500s and 1600s started importing European gun designs as use for small sniper units as well.

    As for Korean technology and all, it probably was pretty advanced considering they had a longer history of war than the Japanese (spanning thousands of years) and they had advanced gunpowder powered weaponry during 1500s/1600s.

    Though during the early 1900's, it became known as the hermit kingdom for refusing to cave into western influences and taking itself out of the picture unlike Japan. I don't think many Koreans would argue that point either. It's just the climate of the times with the excessive European-jealousy during that era.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:58 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You know what's more ironic?

    Japan is becoming more isolated from the world while South Korea is becoming more open to the world.

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    Comment by TFish
    00:33 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I wouldn't say hundreds of years, Japan didn't have major contact with Europeans until the mid 1800's.

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    Comment by Mercure
    01:50 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    However, though their contacts with the rest of the world were limited, it should be mentioned that they were up to date on what happened in the rest of the world. Through the dutch trading mission located on Dejima, Nagasaki, they received information about the rest from the world. They also received information about Western scientific advances. In the beginning, this was primarily medical science, but after the Phaeton incident and the Opium War in China, they also began to focus on physics, steam power, weapon production (particularly cannons) etc. Primarily the Saga-han was involved in that, as it was one of the two han (provinces) charged with the protection of Nagasaki. The Saga-han was also given permission to create cannons for this purpose - no other han in Japan were allowed to do so at that time.

    With that in mind, it is safe to say that they didn't start from nothing when the country was opened up to the rest of the world again. The different han in Kyuushuu - with easier access to Rangaku (literally Dutch studies, which were first focussed on medical sciences but later also broadened in scope to encompass other scientific fields (largely for military purposes)) - would later also play a vital role in the modernization of Japan.

    To say that it tried to copy the west for hundreds of years is wrong however. They did try to learn from the west, but that mostly focussed on a few select fields until the 19th century. They however never tried to be like the west during that time. It is easier to argue that they tried not to be like the west, in fact!

    Starting from the Meiji era, there's a strong switch in which they do try to copy the west to the best of their abilities. Though this also isn't unreserved. There are some amusing anecdotes to be found about the cultural differences which the Japanese found outrageous. I recall reading a text where a Japanese man scathingly described a ball as people trippling around like mice. Or his dismay when the men first politely asked the women who accompanied them for permission to light their cigars/cigarettes. Fun times. :P

    Long story short, they then went from "copy everything" to "copy stuff which fits into our culture." And I've written a long enough post for now. Cheers!

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    Comment by kazaza2
    02:11 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Even that contact was brought about by armed threat and coercion from western powers. Which in turn led to civil war from 1863 -1868.

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    Comment by Myballz
    04:31 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Let Korea believe that they are special, it kept the Country from going to hell since the history of there culture existed.Just like Japan believe they are special as well.In the end they will fuck up and it won't be funny for both of them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:01 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It wasn't that long ago that history lessons in my own home country were the same. It was all knights in shining armour, gold-plated sailing ships, rich merchants and so on and so forth. Little mention was made of the peasants who didn't have to eat, of the crews of the ships (only half of which survived the voyage) or of the people who mined peat from 3:30 till dusk for barely enough money to eke out a living. It's always tempting to whitewash history.

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    Comment by kanbanmusume
    02:28 28/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Even today we lionize the rich and powerful.

    The general population is viewed as a labor force or cannon fodder depending on the need.

    I fear it will always be so because who writes or influences history but the rich and powerful.

    Comment by Anonymous

    u guys can't understand how much Korean hate Japan unless u r not Korean.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:57 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    but forcing them to hate Jap is like brainwashing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:59 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    There is no difference between this and the hate the Jews have, the Japs have done terrible things to Korea with the most recent examples less that 70 years ago.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:02 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    that's the point. It isn't even more than 100 yrs ago. I can't understand Korean ppl who doesn't care about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:08 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Japan now is a very civilised country. It does not deserve this hate from Korea; what happened 70 years ago is in the past,they have done nothing wrong in recent years. Do you think that Jews would educate other Jews about Hitler and force them to hate the Germans?

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    21:12 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The Korea/Japan hate seems a bit overblown by the media anyway. It's mostly just snarkiness and it is more like a heated rivalry than open attacks like in China.

    And you know, Chinese and Filipinos hating on Japan even today is probably well deserved considering stuff Japanese soldiers did in those nations that would have made Nazis blush.

    Either way, people shouldn't just try to forget. Just use that as a springboard to prove to eachother that we're better than our flawed ancestors.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:17 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    at least German appolized to Jew what they haven done to them. Japan will be hated by Asia forever.

    Comment by Anonymous

    at least German appolized to Jew what they have done to them. Japan will be hated by Asia forever.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Brainwashing indeed.
    Winland was attacked by Russians but we have almost forgotten what was done 70 years ago,
    It wasn't russians living today who attacked us.
    most of them have died already.

    So should Koreans do the same.
    Koreans are just stubborn idiots.
    living in the past.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:26 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    So?
    You cant hate someone that wasnt even born in those times .

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:36 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @Shippoyasha

    Most Filipinos Love Japan.

    Anime,Manga,Games,Cars,Food etc.

    We Don't Hate Spain either.

    it actually surpises me that most of us were able to let it go just like that.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I'm copying and pasting my comment for fun.

    Koreans are pussies. Japan leveled the Philippine's ass in World War 2 and did as much horrible things they did in Korea(lol as if they were even attacked that badly). They destroyed our capital city, annihilated nearly all of our forces including American forces at Bataan and forced our country into a period of horror, oppression, poverty, rape of many women, slaughter of remaining forces, and a puppet government. Ask any Filipino if they still have any hate for the Japanese. Go ahead. Nobody even cares anymore.

    We love Japan. And Spain

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:02 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    i dont know how they teach us back at my home country but thank god that i studied in England

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:19 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Like how Japan brainwashes it's own citizens to believe Nanking, Comfort Women or Unit 731 never happened and that all of it is a big lie made by China and Korea to worsen the image of Japanese.

    I had faith that the Japanese majority wouldn't become such, definitely wasn't like so 5-6 years ago. Ask about it now and they deny the hell out of it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:54 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    As a Korean American I am ashamed. Who gives a shit what happened in the past. Although, I kind find this research hard to believe. From my view all the Korean pop stars heading over Japan.

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    Comment by yaku
    22:25 27/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Agreed; what I find funny is that Korean pop stars get popular in Japan, Japanese pop stars get popular in Korea... those brainwashed kids are but a small portion of the country; I've visited Korea and for example girls go gaga for idols/musicians, and that includes Japanese ones.

    It's obvious this was the work of the usual extremist groups, wanting to sow the seeds of hate for stupid reasons, and we see plenty of those in every single country out there.

    Avatar of Shizu's Waki Obsessor: MaidNiac
    03:36 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's all the fault of those parents and old men who can't differentiate between teaching their kids about their bitter history or brainwashing them into legions of hate machines. The same thing applies to certain old fossils in my state, I had this one annoying teacher back in highschool who kept on telling us how evil and filthy the British and all sort of westerners are, not remembering if it's not because of them, my generation would still chopping other people's heads in order to get married.

    Oh, do I need to mention that teacher also often took advantage on the girls, "encouraging" them if they got the answers wrong by rubbing their hands?

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    Comment by Dreck
    22:34 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    ashamed of what? As a korean american, but more as an adult I've not put much faith into the opinions of children much less a bunch of horny teenagers. Hell if they leased such a survey in the US prior to 2001 I think the most likely answer would've been mexico simply as a prank.

    I'm more concerned about what it is that's going on in the household. All I know of are concerns of my family there which are bit more closer to home than worrying about who to go to war with... They could care less about the going on's about Japan, they were more concerned about the GI's running around getting drunk and causing a ruckus and whatnot >_> Not that that's as big a concern as it used to be...

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    Comment by DoubleX31
    09:22 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think you're overestimating the intelligence of American teens.

    Most would probably answer Iraq or Afghanistan or Russia.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:43 30/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Iraq and Afghanistan are both allies. We are only fighting the rebels from the regimes that we took out of power a while ago.

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    Comment by Zanber
    03:58 28/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    I am a Korean-American too, I do give a shit about what happened in the past. But I do not cling on the past to cloud my judgement on what's more important today and for future.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:51 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Never worry. Koreans and Japanese will always be shameful to themselves. It's the two people's natural guilt.

    Comment by Anonymous

    my god korean ppl are SO ugly.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:01 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    i bet you are some fat asshole that fabs to girls you will never get

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    21:02 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Showing the worst looking peasants of a peasant class of people is not the best example. Look at all the 'malnourished, peasant class' peoples in the world's history and they all look deformed due to malnourishment and overwork.

    Also, Korean models are stunning and are extremely popular in Japan too. Not to mention the now-infamous Korean obsession with beauty to the point it can get unhealthy..

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    Comment by yaku
    22:45 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not to mention they compare them to royalty and highly decorated soldiers, albeit fictional ones (doesn't mean fancy clothes and armor didn't exist back then, at least).

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:45 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fancy and shiny decorated armors were probably only for generals and ceremonial purpose.

    Comment by Kudi
    04:07 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Korean models are stunning because they are made out of plastic.

    Comparing pre-surgery Koreans to post-surgery ones can make for some great gaijin4koma

    There's a very good reason why Korea is the plastic surgery capital of the world.

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    Comment by SOTER
    07:46 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Korean model on a date: "Look, but don't touch. Otherwise my plastic boob from China is going to explode."

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    Comment by kamiru
    21:12 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    dont worry, plastic surgery is like selling cupcakes overthere.

    Avatar of Shizu's Waki Obsessor: MaidNiac
    21:13 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Plastic surgeries are always their grand solution..

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    Comment by Plagus777
    00:02 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    We'll stop when foreigners stop giving us business.

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    Comment by john park
    20:56 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    i guess i should be mad. but i got distracted by 450 NK sex slaves

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    20:56 27/06/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Kids....

    They know next to nuts and Starcraft.

    Comment by Anonymous

    apparenently so... apparenently so...

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    Comment by soullessman
    01:09 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    hey brohan, knowing how to play starcraft helps get the bills paid

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    Comment by Zanber
    03:55 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They can't play SC2 at unless they are over 18 I think.

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    Comment by Diemeow23
    20:59 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    “Japan is more threatening to them than the country they are still at war with… nice one Japan."

    Yeah! What gives? I expected this from North but South? Wow and I thought Korea was a "happy" place, guess it isn't that "happy" after all.

    All their Happy K-pop songs must be a call for help. Ah well, as long as they don't actually bomb each other

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:16 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Can't we just get along? Even America did it's S**t in the old days. I'm not going around telling everyone to hate the Germans.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:01 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    this article is greatly exaggerated. throw these pictures up and upload some Tomia










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