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The news that 45% of Korean children apparenently consider their nation’s principle enemy to be Japan, with less than half as many considering North Korea as grave a threat and a further 20% actually believing the USA is a worse enemy than either of them has lately been stoking much comment.

The survey reportedly questioned students in over 400 South Korean middle and high schools in an effort to establish the views of South Korean youth on their nation and its security situation.

44.5% of those questioned reported that “our nation’s number one enemy is Japan,” compared to only 22.1% who thought the same of North Korea (with whom the South is technically still at war) and 19.9% who believed South Korea’s greatest enemy was in fact their major ally, the USA.

12.8% meanwhile felt the biggest threat was actually the friendly dragon of China, and a tiny 0.6% worried about the pernicious influence of Russia.

Korean media interprets all this as “the result of Japanese perversion of history and territorial demands worsening the image of Japan amongst the Korean youth,” although it seems they are silent as to why their supposed allies America and Japan are considered greater threats to South Korea than the neighbouring totalitarian dictatorships currently allied against them.

Regarding the apparently minor problem of a third of the Korean nation still being enslaved by a ruthless dictator, 59.6% did at least believe that “further Northern provocations should be met by counter-attacks and firm measures,” compared to 27.7% who would rather pursue the so-called “sunshine policy” of appeasement.

However, nervous allies fearing betrayal may not have too much to worry about (except for what happens if this generation is attacked) – 58.8% of those asked responded that if war came, they would abandon their country and flee overseas, versus 21.6% who would be prepared to stay put and do nothing and a mere 19.8% who would be willing to fight to defend their homeland.

2ch is known to froth at the mouth at the mere mention of their peninsular neighbour, and as ever does not disappoint:

“First free your countrymen.”

“They have no connection to reality. Japan, at peace, is their worst enemy? They may have a ceasefire but South Korea is still at war with the North, you know?”

“They are really engaged in educational propaganda on a massive scale over there.”

“Who cares if the people you hate hate you.”

“The Net-uyo are going to go crazy.”

“Anyone who says Net-uyo is bound to be a Korean. Watch out.”

“The statistics must be faked.”

“To be liked by a country like that is a terrible thing.”

“Probably get the same results if you asked Japanese, as long as they weren’t the ones on TV.”

“Takeshima.”

“That last bit about them wanting to flee their own country kind of sums it up.”

“The only ones warping history are the Koreans.”

“Who cares.”

“If the results are really like that, shouldn’t South Korea ally with China and the North?”

“Korea is really indoctrinating its people to think Japan is its major enemy. For Japan to be so incautious is really dangerous.”

“The anti-Japanese education Korean children receive:”

“Which country do Koreans actually like? If you did a survey on it you’d probably find Japan near the top.”

“Korean history – ideal:

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“Actuality:”

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“Please hurry up and rescue your poor countrymen from the enemy nation of Japan.”

“They’ve always been like this. It’s nothing new.”

“If half their population is nuts its probably better to have nothing to do with them.”

“Japan is more threatening to them than the country they are still at war with… nice one Japan.”

“It’s a good result. Despite it being totally ridiculous, they’re pointlessly increasing their air and naval forces to counter their fears of Japanese attacks. The North is massing troops and artillery, all aimed at the south. When China dumps them and they get desperate, they’ll only have one place to attack.”

“Why would you even take a survey like this?”

“I just hope the ones who flee when war comes don’t come to the coutnries they say they view as enemies.”

“There was that famous street interview with Koreans in Seoul where they said if America attacked the North, they’d attack Japan…”

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    Comment by Anonymous
    21:45 27/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    “Who cares.”

    I like the way this person thinks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:35 21/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I guess if somebody decides to do "No Russian" and don ROK Army Uniforms while shooting up the streets of Tokyo, we would see a huge rith that would easily lead to war.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:33 27/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Perhaps the reason 45% think that Japan is the biggest enemy is because 45% think 2ch represents what mainsteram Japanese think about Koreans.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    20:56 27/06/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Kids....

    They know next to nuts and Starcraft.

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    Comment by Zanber
    03:55 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They can't play SC2 at unless they are over 18 I think.

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    Comment by soullessman
    01:09 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    hey brohan, knowing how to play starcraft helps get the bills paid

    Comment by Anonymous

    apparenently so... apparenently so...

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:41 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    I could understand if the question was: "who do you hate more?", with Japan at the top for obvious historical reasons. it would then make sense for NK to get the results it did since for the most part they've abused their own, not their neighbors. their aggression against SK has mainly been rhetorical. and the US being there... well, the US is always gonna get hated on by other countries because of both jealousy and their perennial near-sighted foreign policy.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    22:01 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Yeah. It's easy to hate the NK government, but you can't really help but feel pity for the starving NK people who are being victimized by their own government.

    Japan in the meantime, has only 'semi-officially' apologized for atrocities by a few under-reported mentions by several prime ministers and the nation actually has prospered instead of being downtrodden after the war. Meanwhile places like the Phillipines and China are pretty much left in turmoil after all that. Doesn't mean the hate is verifiable or justifiable, just that contempt could be there.

    Japan definitely should have went for an all out campaign of national regret and apology like Germany rightfully did. Even to this day, Japanese government hasn't made proper restitution to the Ryuukyuu (Okinawan) people and the Ainu of Hokkaido in the way they basically invaded the natives of the land and decided to help erode their culture through mass migrations. Stuff like that is the reason why many Asian nations still doesn't trust Japan.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:04 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I wonder if an when Japan will ever apologize.

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    Comment by yaku
    22:28 27/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I'd be surprised if people trusted a government that declares them "guilty until proven otherwise" as soon as one gets arrested.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    22:07 27/06/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    If you are talking to normal civilians, there could be times where people do apologize personally. It's the scumbag and still-racist and hate mongering (AND Yakuza controlled) government that can't do anything. Not to mention the Japanese civilians have zero trust in the government as is.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:47 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The current generation wasn't responsible for the war and generally holds very different views than the military government in 1945. If the fascists didn't own up properly and weren't punished adequately that's regrettable, but an apology from Japan now would be meaningless.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:16 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I really have to disagree on that "Philippines" part. The country is in turmoil not because of being invaded by Japan in the past, but merely out of its own citizens' and governments' incompetence. Anything else would just be an excuse to throw around the blame rather accept the reality of things.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:43 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "No government today should have to apologize or make any mention of what happened in world war 2 simply because of the fact that most of the world leaders weren't even alive during the war."

    Funny you should say that; Clinton still apologized for the Japanese interment camps of WW2.

    I think it's less a "moral obligation" and more a "you do this because it'll be better for humanity as a whole." It's definitely true that if my dad killed your sister, I shouldn't have to pay for it, and I'm not obligated to apologize or help you through your time of grief. However, by doing so, maybe I'll spread goodwill, help alleviate some of the pain, and make you more likely to want to work together with me. (It's kind of understandable that you wouldn't want to have anything to do with the family of your sister's murderer, right?) It's just a way to make things nicer for everyone at no cost to myself.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    08:54 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @ TFish & Shippoyasha

    Precisely. It's a gross simplification to say that we as a future generation are apologizing for the sins of the fathers. Consider the idea to a nation who doesn't know much about others, or has little communication that we take for granted in our internet era. These people only have history to judge how the future will come. It's the cyclical nature of history that we all inherently understand, and it's not untrue, so we'd be incorrect to say it's foolish to believe history would repeat itself.

    Apologizing for the failures of a nation in the past is not only an admission of of a mistake in the past, but a representation of the fact that the nation will not do the same in the future. In order to understand a mistake, one must first admit it. Mentioning something publicly and recognizing it as the wrong way to have done things is simultaneously clearing the past for many millions of people sometimes, and also a declaration that it will not come again in the future.

    To deny its existence is to generate the unconscious feeling that they had every right in the world to do it, and to complain is the mark of a weaker dog. It is arrogance and ego that allows a nation not to recognize and comment about something they have done, nothing more. It doesn't mean that they must grovel and beg forgiveness, but to understand and make note of their history. Prove to the people that they are not a stagnant culture that will not propagate the same histories that have generated such hatred and fear initially.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    00:07 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    TFish, I agree with the notion, but it's not that simple when histories of nations goes much longer and ties between parent and child is considered to be much tighter than it is in the west.

    Also, even in the case of serial killers and the like in Korea, they had moments where the entire city bowed out of respect and sadness before. Like with the Virginia Tech shootings. Koreans in their nation was not responsible, but they felt responsible anyway.

    And at this point, yeah, it's not about a direct apology. But a gesture. An olive branch. And again, we can't really expect much out of the bumbling Japanese government. But everyday people may. We can get into Korean-pop and manage to make friends with Korean kids and break that cycle and racism in our own ways. We can share the love of anime, manga, baseball, etc. And during the World Cup in early 2000s, they shared the whole event amongst both nations. Maybe they can try that again.

    As for 'post mortem' apologies, the Popes has done that many times. America is doing it now with Native Americans (or trying to). Australia is doing it with its native population. It's not a crazy idea as you may think. Nor does the people apologizing have to give up all dignity. Besides, the victims usually don't have the power to be bullish about it anymore. Especially if they lived in another era.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:53 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Killing is still killing no matter from which country, and I'm not surprise Japan is not at the top of that list of killed the most.

    People have power, money or even meaning does not give them the right to kill other. Two wrong does not make a right, yet there are no people asking other country to apologize for what they done.

    So typical that you guys only focus your hatred for the most know crime and been blinded by lies.

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    Comment by TFish
    23:50 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wonder when people will stop hounding for an apology from people that did nothing wrong.

    It seems everyone's mentality is for children to pay for the sins of their fathers, when no matter how many people my parents murdered or raped I'd never tell people that I am personally sorry for what I did when it was my parents not I that did something wrong.

    No government today should have to apologize or make any mention of what happened in world war 2 simply because of the fact that most of the world leaders weren't even alive during the war.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:06 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    a) I think Clinton shouldn't have done that, for obvious reasons.
    b) Holding up Clinton as an example of moral fortitude is ludicrous.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:23 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think the asian cultures that Japan oppressed won't be satisfied until they get hundreds of millions of dollars from them and make it illegal for Japanese to question the atrocities committed by their government and military (much like Germany by the Jews).

    Comment by Anonymous

    @08:54
    >Precisely. It's a gross simplification to say that we as a future generation are apologizing for the sins of the fathers. More meaningless drivel.
    No it isn't.
    >... In order to understand a mistake, one must first admit it. ...
    One can and should do so, but you cannot ask people to apologise for such mistakes.
    >More bullshit.
    Japan has more than adequately proven that it has given up its fascist and militaristic ways. There is nothing the Japanese could say at this point to win over anyone who isn't convinced already.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:05 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Apologize for what??
    Let all Asian free from European colony??
    Doubled population of Korean and gave much amount of money??
    Japanese colony wasn't same as European. Not same.

    So you think European countries which had colony and USA apologized to ex-colony countries officially? USA have to apologize to so many countries.
    All white ppl apologized to all African slave officially????

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:50 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Korea was a gigantic rice-producing colony for Japan. A minority of Koreens who supported Japan only got services. The rest of Koreans at that time were educated by European missionaries.

    Japan failed its colonial empire because they didn't treat the Koreans well.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:36 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually yes, every "white countries" that used African slaves apologized.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:07 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes but that doesn't excuse children saying that modern day 2011 Japan is an enemy nation. Not trusting Japan, I can understand. But believing that modern day Japan in 2011 poses more of a threat to S. Koreans' wellbeing and peace than N. Korea in 2011 is simply inexcusable. You can still say, 'I wish they'd apologise, but they are not at war with us any more, modern day Japan in 2011 is not an enemy'.

    There are many things I don't like about the US or it's government, but I would not consider modern day US as an enemy nation, even though they were against the Japanese (my home country) during WW2. That's the difference.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:46 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would say that the two bombs we dropped on them was payback enough. no other country has had to suffer that not even Germany

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:13 06/11/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It was more like the illogical pride/stubbornness of the Japanese government at the time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:45 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I dunno about that, since they're not really related; isn't that kind of like saying America shouldn't have to be apologetic about the bombs and can act like they never happened because of 9/11?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:16 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Even though I don't 100% agree that at the time, the a-bomb punishment obviated the need for an apology, I don't think the situation compares at all with 9/11.
    The scale is completely different to begin with. Two office buildings versus two cities...
    And then there's the context in which the actions were performed. Although the reasons were shitty and I think the primary reason the US dropped the a-bombs is because they could, at least it happened in the context of WWII. The 9/11 attacks on didn't and were executed because the attackers saw the US as an embodiment of everything un-islamic; in other words they were religiously motivated and a part of the struggle between shari'ah and freedom.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:21 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    “They are really engaged in educational propaganda on a massive scale over there.”

    Pot calling Kettle black?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:17 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    THE WAR IS OVER. JAPAN LOST. JAPAN RENOUCED WAR FOREVER IN ARRTICLE 9 "ASPIRING SINCERELY TO AN INTERNATIONIONAL PEACE BASED ON JUSTICE AND ORDER" IN ITS CONSTITUTION AND IS NOW A COUNTRY OF PEACE. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. YOUR ENEMY IS THE NORTH.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:18 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Am I the only one who thinks these are all exaggerated, and that people don't really give half fuck about things not relating to their everyday lives?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:48 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    What gave it away, the ALL CAPS?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:39 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @21:21
    Yea the show was in Japanese. I wouldn't be surprised if it was meant to make Japanese hate Koreans lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:35 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Be that as it may, you cannot get numbers like these without some major indoctrination going on. Especially considering how grossly out of touch with reality the Korean views are.
    At least the Japanese history book scandal generated opposition in Japan as well. And the Japanese seem to agree that their part in WWII was wrong, and that war in general is a horrible thing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:11 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    yeah war is evil ! everyone who involved with the war became corrupted and evil ! chain of hatred

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:29 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "At least the Japanese history book scandal generated opposition in Japan as well."

    Really? But when Kuni ga Moeru was published, Japanese people made a huge outburst against historical fact-- that the Japanese army actually did a bunch of shitty things during the war. Also, I think the Korean media here does make a point that this is messed up thinking.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:23 28/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Anon 09:25 and Anon 07:50. You guys perpetuate the term "Ignorance is bliss".

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:17 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "why there aren't wny mixed ppl in Korea?"

    Oh please, there are mixed people. How long ago do you think WW2 was? They are either dead or very old now. You have no proof on what you believe. And how do you know the Viet Korean mixes are victim of rape? You have not proof of that either, again. Lol, you are nothing but a child on a keyboard with no sense of reality. Why don't you take a walk OUTSIDE of you room? You will find discover many new things. Perhaps you will be embarrassed how your knowledge of the world is some bull s*** that you learned from internet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:46 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @18:23
    They don't seem very blissful to me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:50 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Only winner make history book.
    At least Korean didn't fight for Japan.
    All Korean was Japanese in the era and killed many American.
    There were many Korean soldier and general.
    Population of Korean is doubled only in 30 years.
    If there were many Japanese cruel raper and killer, why there aren't wny mixed ppl in Korea? Cruel raper but used condom?? There are many mixed ppl by Korean raper in Vietnam.
    Dude, there isn't any proof of things Korean believe.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:25 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree with you.
    All European countries didnt apologize to colony in Africa and I dont think they were more cruel than Japan did.
    why can they criticize Japan??
    They are really selfish.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:04 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kuniga Moeru isn't the best example. Part of the shitstorm was caused by the fact that the manga did its own little bit of history falsification. In any case the series was (rightly) not cancelled and freedom of speech prevailed.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    22:36 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They can't see their own reflection off each other, so..

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:58 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Apparently both China and Japan are also idealizing their history while tarnishing the other ones as the decadents.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:40 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Every country does this. America is the most successful at it. But the way Americans do it made the world advance in knowledge and modernization.

    China on the other hand, is guilty of rewriting history as they see fit after the true history was already been made known to the world. Cultural revolution anyone?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:02 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Haters gonna hate.

    Comment by 666
    21:23 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    And We all going to enjoy it! ^_^

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:16 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    and i am enjoying ppl begin to hate koreans !

    Comment by 666
    21:26 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Can't We All Just Get Along and hate Russia? ^_^

    Comment by Kudie Pie
    03:57 28/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    As long as we can all hate France, too.

    P.S. hate the French, as well as France

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:54 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Don't worry we hate you too my dear bunch of stupid fatass brainwashed warmongers! :D

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:48 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    i see your a pussy frenchy. Go surrender to someone....oh wait.

    Comment by 666
    21:27 27/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    P.S. Hate Russia, but not Russians.

    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    21:36 27/06/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    reminded me of CoD

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:20 27/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    P.S. Hate Russia, but not Russians.
    LOL. Doublethink at it best.

    Comment by Kudie Pie
    05:46 28/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Not at all; there's a difference between hating the history or government of a country and hating its people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:34 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Same thing was told by Hitler or Goebbels, like "we fighting not against you, but against your government". And before him this was said be many others europeians, all the while they bloodbathed said countrymen.

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    Comment by 美しい音

    go back to your wormhole

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:03 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't really see the big problem here. Worst case scenario; they'll all be killed by the NK, and it's entirely their fault for being stupid. Natural selection at its finest.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:06 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    What the hell are you smoking? NK doesn't have the military power to invade anyone, nor the allies to support them if they do. Needless to mention that the US military is just looking for an excuse to begin another invasion somewhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:03 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    LOL ! i'll support US when they invade NK or SK ... haha

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:56 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    hate china as a country not as people

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:14 28/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Can't we all just get along and hate China ?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:04 01/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    nonono~~ we all must get along to hate china, south and north korea










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