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A new era of eroge has begun.
I- actually, I'm really not sure how I feel about this.
Having no male protagonist voice in eroge was already bad enough... now they decided to spread it into other H media as well? Fuck this “revolution”!
Next time we'll see the “faceless main guy syndrome” in H anime too.
next time an H scene is activated, the male will turn transparent. lol.
I guess they'll get points for trying something new. But there's a problem... the male protagonist is always necessary. It's a balancing factor. I personally couldn't really get in touch with Sasameki Koto, even though it was a lesbian-based story, without a male protagonist of some sort. Even just a friend there who shows up occasionally.
In this case, this is like Dragon Age. I HATE male main characters who are a stale, emotionless face with just text. It worked in the SNES and PS1 eras because we recognized the limitations. In a dating sim game, it makes sense in the first person perspective, but this is ridiculous.
Plus... did anyone consider that people are basically fapping to these things? I honestly don't see reading as a benefit to the whole scenario. In doujinshi it's the medium and how it works. This is animated and supposed to be assembled to draw a story to the next level. This is... taking that and going backwards.
Dumb idea. And I hope the Japanese don't do something stupid... like think it's a good idea. This reeks of an accounting idea to save pennies on voice acting costs...
Hm... For ecchi Anime, Manga and Doujin, I don't care for the male protagonist at all. However, I have always thought that instead of trying to 'immerse oneself', the idea was to be an observer.
The idea of the faceless and personality-devoid male is usually to just place emphasis on the female character as that is supposed to be the focus of the ecchi scenes.
...but yeah, I completely agree with the fact that having no voice in an ecchi Anime is kinda annoying.
Facelessness is one thing, but by taking out the voice, I think it goes one step too far. If anything, it takes you even further out of the scene.
Curious... your favorite male main character almost never show his face and is a mute to boot(unless you count Freemans Mind in Youtube)... Just kidding Freeman rocks.
Doctor House more than makes up for it.
@ Actar
You're right, observer is the right word. It's obvious you're not the one in the scenario, and that's part of the amusing nature of it. Apparently there are JAVs you can get where it's just a woman looking at a camera doing suggestive motions. Some may find benefit in that but... it'd just be awkward, I can't see how that would be worth much.
@ Anon 20:30
No, you're right, Gordon Freeman is a tremendously well-made protagonist and is mute, but he's a first-person scenario again. And they have great writers who understand how to write that into the scenario. All the characters react to the events and react to Gordon, and when they ask you a question, one of the cool things is it's like your answer is to move.
"Gordon, can you get in there and shut down the power?"
*Off you go without a word like the hero he really is, despite his background*
It's a scenario that's limited to first-person perspectives. In Chrono Trigger, one of my favorites, it was kind of the same. It wasn't first person, and worked due to graphical limitations, but the characters all reacted, and at the very least, Crono had his own personality in his nods and such. Dragon Age you seemed to do nothing. Even if the there was a text answer, it was almost annoying that they showed my character's face at all. I'm hearing Dragon Age 2 follows Mass Effect's style, which is in every way better, regardless of what Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation says :D
I was never, ever a fan of the movement to allow you to put your name as a character's name. It's stupid. It doesn't add anything, it takes away. Try it with a book, it'd be ridiculous.
That's because Dr. House is the fkkn man XD.
Hell no. Yuri anime does not need a male protagonist, and most of them thankfully removed such a character (remember, yuri anime is not aimed at men alone, the audience is half women or more). He'd be worthless for everyone but a small minority of possible watchers, anyway - and these are missing the point of lesbian-themed stories to begin with.
If you cannot emphasize with a female main character, you really DO have some issues. Most people manage to do so just fine. Just like I manage to identify with male characters in yaoi as well as female characters in yuri.
You're right, however, that for hetero-themed stuff, making the guy invisible is cheap and just done to save money.
So, I half agree and half disagree. Het stuff should of course have a fully detailed and characterized(!) male character. However, saying that yuri does need such a character is batshit insane. Animes like Nanoha or Sono Hanabira are great exactly because they get rid of such a character. You can see it in Nanoha really well: Nobody gave a damn about the guy, so he was phased out. GOOD move. We need variance, stories with characters of both genders, and stories which are focussed on one gender. That way, you get your (crazy) way in some cases, and everyone else gets their way, too.
faceless main guy ... Princess Lover OVA ?
Seriously? you know, they still call the protagonist 'Seiryu-kun' so it's not they're referring to you or anything.
Then it'll just be a floating dick.
SEE THROUGH DICK
koe de oshigoto <3
next revolution should be no censorship
EVER
+1
I know that most ero games and some JAVs don't have male voices. It's not such a big deal.
Nah at the rate censorship is happening these days, the next revolution would be a black screen with words describing the scene.
@ 19:58
I lol'd
Finally i can do my own voice acting without having to mute or speak over the male voice.
Poro's Reunion had no male voice either... funny.
How about featureless male protagonist, allowing you to imagine you're that protagonist doing it.
already been done in this H ttp://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=7226 ^^a
can't see anything
hmm http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=7226 [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=7226]
or try searching H anime with the title Issho ni H Shiyo! (一緒にHしよっ) and it's sequel Akina to Onsen de H Shiyo! (明菜と温泉でHしよっ)
basically it's a good H (graphic wise and animation wise) and it pretend we're the one doing it with the girl^^a
There should be more yuri and futanari on female only hentai in the future.
Futanari on female is rare for some reason, but totally win.
I demand more futanari on male instead.
Perfect, do away with those disgusting males altogether.
You can save yourself the voiceover AND the animation!
No surprise here.
From Link to Gordon Freeman, Immersive gaming has gone hand in hand with silent protagonists. And it doesn't get more immersive than impregnating schoolgirls.
Cue current crop of terribad RPGs, but with voices!
Well I guess today's fap night.
Lol i can't imagine someone going in front of his screen " Ah! Sayako! I'm cumming! I'm cummiiiiiiiiing!!!!"
In japanese.
ya...haha...who da hell does that..heh heh...
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xD hahahahahaha....... seriously? o.O
I did as well.
It was hot.
Well sir you just met someone who does
I'd rather see them post this:
“Throughout the feature, the H scene pixelizations have been replaced by the anatomically correct display of genitals. You can immerse yourselves in the scene without archaic, hypocritical and fanatically conservative standards vilifying the human body interfering.”
I don't really mind that
No thanks. Have you ever seen a vagina up close with its messy gooey shit and sometimes pungent smell? That's why I like anime, its far away from reality and it let's your mind fill in the missing gaps. That's why some people think anime girls are so attractive.
I have seen plenty of vaginas and I certainly love what you call their "messy gooey shit."
Also, I don't know what kind of girls you've met, if any, but a fresh, healthy, clean vagina ready to be fucked smells like heaven.
That said, I agree that ero anime should differentiate itself from standard porn. I say they replace the mosaic with some idealized loli pussy (you know, squirting all over the place and stuff).
if any, but a fresh, healthy, clean vagina ready to be fucked smells like heaven.
I wonder how I should react to this
Most of them smell fishy. Most women don't clean themselves every few hours to keep them squeeky clean. And their juices certainly don't taste like honey.
If a fish market after hours, before the cleaning crew have arrived, is your idea of heaven, then yeah, I guess a vagina does smell like heaven.
It's easy to figure out why some of you guys don't like the taste and smell of vag. Ad i just want to tell you, it's 2011, it's ok to be gay
Okay, it's true that pussy is definitely an acquired taste, but you'd be amazed at what the chemicals in your brain (heck, not to mention the ones in her sex that you're smelling) will do to fix the problem if you have sex regularly, especially if you have one consistent partner. You will acquire that taste with a VENGEANCE.
My GF's pussy made me gag if I got too close at first, and now it turns me on to go down on her.
If it's worse than that, then your ladyfriend might have an infection, in which case she should indeed be cleaning it more.
Assuming she bathes, really bad vaginal odor is usually from a yeast infection. She should go to a gynecologist. Women get it from all the nylon and spandex they wear. You can get from her too.
By the way did you think your cock was a candy cane?
At first I wanted to post some flame to mock with the gay guy who doesn't like cunts, but after reading so much about wet vaginas & their taste I got siglthy aroused ¬__¬
@21:54
No, most of them have a neutral, yet fantastic smell and taste (ranging from mild natural yogurt to raw, ripe tomato).
And cleaning it every few hours would be very bad for it, as it destroys the vaginal flora, and increases the chances of infection, which leads to bad smell.
Some women do make the mistake of using liquid soap with pH >6, and when this happens no matter how much they shower, they'll always smell and taste funny.
If they use an acidic soap (pH <= 5.5), their vaginal flora will be preserved and therefore their vagina will be a delicacy waiting to be eaten.
It's not like you can wash a vagina... You can wash the vulva tho. ;)
I mean with soap. You can't put soap into the vagina, that's like toxic and shit.
But you can wash your vulva with soap. (:
I completely agree with the idea that ero anime should differentiate itself from regular porn. and not just by having perfectly looking vaginas, which almost doesn't matter since most stuff only has a censored version anyway.
I mean they should have more perfectly looking girls, with a wider variety of body types, not just the now typical chunky chick with ginormous oppai. they should also have more exotic sexual encounters and situations. and go deeper into various types of fetishes and not just the standard ones that are way overdone by now.
my girl said my cock smells like candy, and I did say hers smell fishy
Squig? is that you?
http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3445
never thought to see another sinfest fan here in sancom of all places. Down with the matriarchy! viva la revolucion!
They look like orchids to me and a healthy vagina smells sweet, like nothing else on this planet. Wonderful!
Perhaps he got unlucky with some Do Not Wants.
No doubt he is a homo ;)
Like any of you replying ever got laid
Yeah deny the truth and downrate the comment. Real mature
I have to admit i haven't got any today. that pretty much makes me a vrigin limke all of you.
Why not just remove males entirely. I only watch H if it's yuri.
like anon said, its an acquired taste. think of it like different kinds of beer; like dunkel.
btw, some facts:
1->lots of aminoacids in your diet will make you taste ripper.
2->proper pH'd soaps can make miracles.
3->you must NOT clean your genitals with any kind of soap every few hours. you can use water, tho.
4->learning to enjoy a vagina's taste and smells (which also differ depending the day of the cycle girl is in), will greatly improve your sex life. gotta cope with it, you'll end up loving pussy real bad, due to several neurophysiological fenomena some anon said earlier.
if the above is still not enough for you, here's a tip: before you go down on her, gotta make her wet with anything but your tongue, obviously. if so, her own juices will leave most strong odors and tastes unnoticed. prove it yourself.
You're gay bro.
Correction in your post.
"That's why I think anime girls are so attractive."
Tell your dates to shower more and you might actually have a good time.
I don't mind this
THAT, would be the real revolution!
Nah...
That, would be LIVE ACTION PORN.
I would rather see animation in a hentai that isnt horrid
its almost a given that any adult anime would reuse and loop animation, the real challenge is making it not look like its been thrown together in 5 minutes.
If that happened, I'd buy a copy sheerly to bolster their effort to finally rid hentai ( and porn in general) of that BS.
I'm half broke and I would do that too!
I am broke and I also would.
I wonder if there is any chance in hell this will be released for North American audiences, as in not completely ruined with fully retarded and hypocritical censorship.
theyd have to make it here in america to bypasss those silly censorship laws
i want to see the sperm flow in the pussy without no mosaic!
Uh insert voice here option