Rorona vs Lolina


Gust’s decision to magically lolificate Rorona for Atelier Meruru so they would be spared the prospect of having her as an old hag in her thirties is proving divisive, with “big Rorona” seemingly garnering much more support than “Lolina” despite the noted lolicon proclivities of series fans…

The results from the Japanese GameSpot:


Even 2ch is convinced of the merits of hag Rorona:


“The big one.”

“However you look at it the big version is best.”

“Why does it come down to a hag and a loli. The 14-year-old Rorona is best though.”

“Honestly, they made her too loli. At 11-13 she would be top.”

“We should raid it and make it favour the little one.”

“The little Rorona may be called Rorona but otherwise it’s like a different character.”

“The first Rorona was best.”


“But in-game she was Lolina…”



“I hope they fix that in the Vita version.”


“Juana Olsys: 37.”


“Sterkenburug Cranach: 39”


“Estiy Erhard: 40”

“All their ages are messed up.”

Creepy barbarians join the fray, reminding everyone why western governments are rapidly catching up to China in certain select areas:


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    Comment by Anonymous
    08:11 20/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Normalfags... Normalfags everywhere there AND in here.

    Anyhow, that one 2ch poster is right. A 11-13 Rorona would be the best, ideally 11 or 12 for absolute perfection.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    17:37 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    I'm really confused about the age thing. Do you guys realize how young some girls look at age 11?

    That 2chan poster is right. The in-game Rorona looked like... 6-7 years old. Just a strange disparity.

    I still laugh at Gust for not having the guts to do a great 30 year old character. Or well... most anime/manga/novel creators who just can't seem to bother doing one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:15 20/06/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    We "normalfags" are here to keep sickos like you in line.

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    Comment by The REAL Lamberto
    18:08 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    *Yawn* When will you smartass moralfags learn?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:09 20/06/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    When will you kill yourself?

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    Comment by Kamigoroshi
    04:50 20/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    And exclusive in the American/European release comes: Machona, the muscular macho version of Rorona!

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    Comment by Megidola
    05:16 20/06/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    I think I'll choose the “Disturbingly Sexualized Young Girls” edition instead.

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    Comment by demonhaseo
    07:53 20/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Either version of Rorona's fine with me, her older or Loli form.

    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    12:39 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Rorona ftw

    Comment by Anonymous

    wow geezers on an rpg quest? look out you might break you back!
    must it be targeted for the aging gaming fans?

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:47 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "disturbingly sexualized young girls edition"? Isn't that Hyperdimension Neptunia 2?

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    Comment by Mizuumi-san
    04:55 20/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    hell yeah?? ..... u_uUU

    ahh!!! random flashback!! ah!!! >O<

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:33 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    give rorona gunz, add first person views, and throw in some zombies with multiplayer online.

    gust will then be the most successful gaming company in all of japan.

    square enix and capcom will be jelly.

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    Comment by Knets
    08:37 20/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Yet successful only outside Japan?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:48 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    cod: black ops taking #1 with 170,000 sold on release in japan would like a word.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:28 20/06/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    it would definitely sell more than the japanese release.

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    Comment by loli in a box
    05:27 20/06/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    155 votes total?
    I don't think Japanese Gamespot readers belong to the target audience...Lolina is just superior.

    This time make a survey yourself, Arty. (these ones:

    And/Or alternatively, let's make a Sancom-only survey.

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    Comment by SaltyPenguin
    12:54 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would prefer a sancom only.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:04 20/06/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Yeah, name it "Top 10 Animes Pedophiles and Kiddyfuckers Want"

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    Comment by RaspberryKisses
    05:40 20/06/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    i like loli Rorona more but again i'm lolicon so i wouldn't know any better or want to know for that matter.

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    Comment by Rosencroft
    07:30 20/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Ignorance is bliss in this matter.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:30 22/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    She's an alchemist, it was only a matter of time before she made a potion of youth.

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    Comment by Ukonkivi
    16:29 20/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Eh, I don't care about this "loli" versus "adult" aesthetic stuff. I just like small breasts.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:03 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Honestly, both versions of Rorona look absolutely delicio-... nice.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:34 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This. At least we've got variants of the girl and they all look nice. People should stop complaining now. I prefer the loli though :3

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:01 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Fuck them I want lolirona!

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    Comment by motaku96
    01:29 21/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    All characters in this game are 18+. Clearly done for the sex.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:52 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The Elixir of Eternal Lolihood, Rorona's Magnum Opus

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    Comment by Dia
    14:15 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can't help but to agree. They really did a good job with the original. Not that the new one is bad either.

    16:00 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like both big and loli rorona, my fantasy has room for both and more.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:53 22/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Rorona getting older is interesting, while her suddenly becoming a loli is fucking stupid, but I really like both/all of the designs. I just don't get why there seems to NEED to be a change. Whatever direction this goes, I like it though, so I don't care which one "wins".

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:14 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think they messed up the age
    look(calculate from the start of the games)
    Atelier Rorona --> Atelier Totori
    Rorona age in Atelier Rorona = 14
    Rorona age in Atelier Totori = 22
    so it's about 8 years later in first game

    Atelier Totori --> Atelier Meruru
    Totori age in Atelier Totori = 13
    Totori age in Atelier Meruru = 19
    so it's about 6 years later in the second game

    And Esty age at first is 26
    so in this game should be 26+8+6 = 40
    they didn't messed up the age time
    except Rorona since the team want her tobe loli = ='

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:34 23/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They look pretty youthful for being up there in their 30's. I mean, damn! But then that's not too far from reality, now is it?

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:14 22/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sincerely, I haven't yet understood what's so good in a prepubescent girl.

    It seems to me like those dumbass girls who are crazy about Justin Biberon (French Term for "Baby Bottle ")... ^^

    But then again the problem might be on my side, which I think that two huge boobs is the best of what a 2d girl may have to offer... ^^

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    Comment by Firetribe
    02:34 22/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The games is not even out yet and people are complaining. Before everyone gets all their pantsu further in a bunch, try playing the game and see if you like the loli version.

    I think it's an interesting idea- having played the 1st game- and trust the production staff on this one. Fans should get what they desire, and there are times when the fans should not try to curtail the creativity of the developers.

    Besides, even if people complain, they will buy Meruru anyway after having played the first two games. Adding three guys in IM@S 2 didn't stop IM@s fanboys despite the complaints in that case.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:55 22/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Also, I don't get what's with all this negativity towards a character getting older. That's life. Beauty doesn't last forever. But I don't even need to mention that, because the "hag" version is still incredibly beautiful and well-drawn. If that constitutes a hag, your standards and expectations are dangerously high and make you seem like an arrogant piece of shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:08 21/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    If fans of the series really want a lolita as their protagonist, they could always just play, oh, I don't know... every other game in the entire series?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:53 21/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know about Rorona, but Juana Olsys and Estiy Erhard are pretty damn hot. I'm fine with these two... :3
    Thought the ages are messed up and don't go with how they look. wtf?

    Personally I like the old one or just the teenager one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:08 21/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gah that was a bad compare picture
    I would support Loli Rorona but that compare picture
    ^_^ Reached Solution
    Takes them both home with me

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:44 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    An Atelier game where the girl is all THREE age groups...
    Now everybody wins.

    Also, Sterk might just be the most beautiful that game, that coat is just fab-ul-ous~

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    Comment by Imyou
    12:21 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Never got into the series, so take it as you will...
    I can see her being like, 15. Then it's just fantasy, and if you really want to, you can sort of suspend disbelief. Even if she's numerically 30 and physically 8... the whole thing just looks ridiculous. It's like someone trying to pass off Komoe-sensei, but being serious about it.
    I'd actually like to try a game in this series and see what the hype is about, but I think if I do, I'll grab an older title instead because... I just can't relate to a little kid like that. Also, I couldn't play it without feeling like the creepiest lolicon playing a non-porn game.

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    Comment by Indofag
    09:03 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Rorona? Rorina? MILF Rorona?

    I'd say trap Rorona is better.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:11 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Juana Olsys: 37
    Estiy Erhard: 40


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    Comment by VVayfarer
    16:41 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's like someone just randomly decided to double their ages.

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    Comment by Knets
    00:27 21/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You got scammed!
    Juana Olsys: 17

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    Comment by fxc2
    05:34 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Names that try to appear foreign in Japanese anime&games always bug me to no end. Why can't they go with something simple like 'Smith' or 'Williams', always inventing weird names that don't sound like they're particularly from anywhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:37 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pokémon Trainer Red would like to have a "word" with you about his Japanese name being hard. And I don't see the problem either. The names may be weird but at least they're trying to be creative

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:17 21/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, it's not like the setting is of any place on Earth.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:32 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    shed still be cute so i dont care

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:12 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm all for loli and everything, but... Rorona is a bit too young. A 11 or 12 Rorona would make the best loli, and would be at ideal appeal body-wise.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:03 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like the older version. The young one looks too much like Holly Hobbie.

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