Elder Scrolls developer Bethesda is reporting an “attempted” hack has netted user info, casting further doubt on the ability or trustworthiness of game companies when it comes to securing user data.
Over the past weekend, a hacker group attempted an unlawful intrusion of our websites to gain access to data. We believe we have taken appropriate action to protect our data against these attacks.
While no personal financial information or credit card data was obtained, the hackers may have gained access to some user names, email addresses, and/or passwords. As a precaution, we recommend that all our fans immediately change passwords on all our sites, including our community forums, statistics site for Brink, and here on the blog.
If your username/email address/password is similar to what you use on other sites, we recommend changing the password at those sites as well. As we don’t know what further plans the hackers may have, we suggest that you keep an eye out for suspicious emails and account activity.
We regret any inconvenience that these attacks on us cause for you. These attacks will be evaluated to determine if there are any additional protections we might take that would be prudent.
It might come as news to hackers potentially sitting on a pile of email addresses and passwords that they have merely “attempted” a hack – apparently the theft of personal information other than credit card details is now so routine it can be brushed off as a mere failure to get at the good stuff.
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Excellent, this makes sony look better by comparison.
What? No way, Sony is still so much worse, they got hit like 5 times, others have just stopped at the one or attempt. Sony is still so much worse off than this. Bethesda didnt have to close down and lay off a bunch of employees in the US SOE (sony online entertainment) nor did Bethesda get their movie website hacked, Sony did, and PSN got hacked twice, among other things. Get off it..
Some of us here hoping some other company would be hit even harder than sony, like Activision, so we can get back to our lives.
Blizzard: "Bring it on hackers"
tbh blizzard should be hit and hit hard.
still charging 15$ monthly for wow
still no LAN in SC2
selling SC2 as 3 separate games
owned by Activision
charging for blizzcon and charging ALLOT
charging 25$ for a fucking horse
console interface in a PC game (sc2)
the list goes on
WoW costs a lot to keep up running all those goddamn servers. They don't have monthly fee just because they want money for themselves. They have monthly bills to pay to keep the servers running.
Stupid move on the LAN part, just to prevent piracy, even though it prevents jack shit, except for not allowing people to play on LAN.
Every part of SC2 is a full game, it's not expansions or similar to DLC. You get what you pay for. I sure as hell don't mind 3 great games.
So you hate Activision and thus you hate Blizzard although they have nothing to do with each other?
Shit costs.
You're not forced to buy a fucking horse.
How the fuck is that a console interface? It works and flows well.
Lol, implying blizzard doesn't want to make money of monthly fee's, you're silly.
Blizzard already announced they're changing the way the expansions to SC2 will be marketed. Instead of 3 stand alones they've decided to market them as expansions and they explicitly said they will be priced as such.
Maybe this is way how to force companies start selling games without those stupid registrations and online DRM bullshit. If they wont be able to guard the data, they will lose right to have them.
@ NeoWorm 06:04
The game -- and other -- companies which store your personal information NEVER had "a right" to do so.
Customers handed that information over to them in order to buy their products and services.
It seems that company managers have near-universally decided any bad press due to data breaches is just "a cost of doing business", rather than devote the needed information technology resources required to properly secure the data.
Until a bunch of companies get bitch-slapped with multi-million dollar fines or class-action lawsuits -- which ISN'T going to happen -- they'll just keep doing what they've been doing.
The customers have hurt the companies significantly, financially, before they'll change. Boycotts, visible, noisy protests, etc. Vote with your wallet, and let the companies' management KNOW why you're not buying their stuff.
I think a majority of people are too addicted to their on-line-whatever service (PSN, MMO subscriptions, etc.) to make that happen.
if i like an mmo, ill play it.
if i want to get a demo through psn i need it
if i want a demo on live i need a silver at least
untill there is an alternativeness, (re5 demo getting pirated comes to mind) i HAVE to have these services...
im not willing to not play a game to prove a point. but pirate it... thats something i will do, so long as they understand why, and not an "im to cheap to buy it, more drm" way of thinking.
You don't have to play an MMO. You don't have to own a PS3. You don't have to own a PSN account.
Until you are willing to sacrifice some potential enjoyment to make a point, corporations have zero interest in giving you a better service. The only way you can vote is your wallet.
As for piracy, corporations just view it as something that will go away once they
buy"convince" enough politicians in their point of view.hahaha, a wise man once said sometimes society can only move forward through the grave
in other words the dinosaurs must die out
frankly i wonder how come they still pay anyone for the DRM bull
it doesnt do jack on single player focused games and multiplayer often gets bypassed as well
further more every time a games ask me for play disks or steam does something stupid (thats every time i turn it on) i rather take the pirated copy so i dont have to rage over buying annoying crap
your DRM idiocy will either get me brain hemorrhage or ill quit buying games - either way you lose a customer, yhear me DRM cretins?!
A wise man would know better than put sweeping generalizations on the entire human race.
Old ideas do not go away with people, they go away with a revolution, weather or not it involves actual civil uprising.
But for DRM to disappear, there should be enough people who care for that first, which isn't happening as the average non-tech crowd doesn't know better.
According to your comments, you already don't pay for games.
Why are your statements valid then?
i did say sometimes - and i never claimed the entire senior population is the problem, however when too many influential people adamantly adhere to absurd ideas you can only wait for them to die and hope for the new generation to know better
and i used to not pay for games for budget reasons, now i try my best to buy all the games i enjoy
steam and other crap is not helping my resolve
There really is no need for them to store personal data.
The games can work just fine with out that.
...as the pirated versions of the games have proven ;)
@ELeriel no as older games have proven, I brought Final Fantasy 7, it worked without any registration, or need to send any personal data to anyone.
I'm pretty sure they do in fact have the right to store your personal information for purposes relevant to their company. It's generally presented in the form of a Terms of Service thing that most people click "I Accept" without reading.
Of course, you as a consumer being lazy and retarded has no bearing on their actions as a producer.
Also, Artefact likes to overdramatize things in order to fit his narrative.
They don't, unless you give them permission, which you did by clicking the "I agree with the terms which nobody reads but we'll pretend you did and use it as evidence in court if needed".
Most countries have severe restrictions on what your personal information can be used for, but accepting the "we can do whatever the fuck we want with your personal info" negates that.
depending on where it is sold. USA... yes, your pretty much screwed...
here where i live they can say "but you pressed the (i Agree) button, so you accept our terms and cant do shit about it" but the law says straight out that the terms cant bypass the law nor give lower warranty rights than what you have trough the law on any point. and any ware, hard or software, that is sold here in shop or over net have to abide the law...
we have had some cases with Apple that denied to fix iphones that broke after short time becase of cold (that they were supposed to handle) because "they have sign the contract that gave em just on month of limited warranty".
the whole thing ended minor lawsuit by the state and then they just soon after the goverment increased the warranty length for new mobile phones from 2 to 5 years in the laws...
none of the good bethesda games require user data, unless they do on the consles? but who plays oblivion or fallout on consels? would miss out on all of the delicious mod content which makes the games twice as good~
Fanboys of the Addictus Consolicus fammily. In particular Addictus Ecsubocus and Addictus Preisteisinus.
Thats a good idea, we didn't need registrations before, and they have not helped with the expierience in any way have they?
They have helped greatly. Helped CEOs to bigger paychecks, that is.
Nothing like pretending you are doing something useful in front of the board/investors.
How the fuck is that supposed to help in any way?
Seems like it'd drive away customers to me.
If you want it out faster they'd need the money to do it.
With no customers, then they can't do shit, now can they?
... and there is the logic. They start actually focusing on making a more appealing product instead of developing more and more invasive DRM because they aren't making money. Seriously.
those registration and online drm is to make sure that you are the holder of the account that own the registered game.
companies already state that 2 of the biggest problems(besides piracy) that cause them to lose revenue is pre-owned games and rentals.
Those who are against the registration and online drm(besides the potential risk of losing them to hackers) are basically someone who wants to steal without spending time and risk of using cracks, keygens and traced serials or better yet, purchase their own copy of the game that a group of people who spent years to create. I'll be hella pissed if someone got a hold of my serials and use it to play online, keeping me offline.
Look mom, it's Captain Obvious! Yay!
If someone stole your CDKEY, it's your own fault.
A 20 character keyset has an insane amount of possible combinations (a 46 digit number) and guessing it is just not going to happen. The only way someone could have taken your CD key is by reading your manual or getting malware on your PC.
It's your own fault either way, with MSE you have no excuse not to have an AV toolkit on a Windows machine.
A false dichotomy. I want to be able to play my games when I'm offline and when the auth servers are offline as it always happens with online DRM services.
And I'd rather take my chances with cracks rather than pray to the rain gods that the auth servers are up.
It's not illegal to sell a book or a DVD you own. Just why would it be legal to do that with software that I BOUGHT?
They did exactly what lulzsec wanted them to do, protect themselves from the threat. this comes off as a win win situation for the hackers and for Bethesda. high-5s all around for the security team
whoops no wait cross that, they didn't listen they just claimed to. Head to the lulzsec site for their press release and a chunk of the bethesda database
lulzsec just finds hacking people and ruining lives funny, there is no higher motive.
Another day, another hack.
After all Bethesda did for you!? LEAVE HER ALONE!!!! *BAWWW
You mean shitty generic games like oblivion?
Fuck you. I bet you played shit like DA II and liked it
fight, fight, fight, fight..
Wow.....his preferences are pretty much fucked up to actually denounce Oblivion.
No, I just don't think he likes boring games.
"Omg, no way, I'm speaking to a lifeless boring townsperson and I have a choice between neutral, good, and bad responses! I'm having SO MUCH FUN!"
Go play CoD, fanboy.
couldn't, CoD sucks.
I admit that the Fallout dialogue system leaves much to be desired. Why can't I reply sarcastically?
Wow.....his preferences are pretty much fucked up to actually denounce Oblivion.
Hahahah .
Bunch of fags .
I dont like that pseudo adult DA series.
And COD is boring as hell .
Now why i dislike oblivion?
Horrible story,most of quests are lame and boring(but i loved dark brotherhood quests)
Stupid dialogues,horrible voice acting(well better than Fallout 3 aka "we rules".
Boring and generic dungeons not anything close to what bethseda promised before releasing game.
Oh and that leveling system where monsters level with you...
From release posting:
"Please find enclosed everything we took, excluding one thing - 200,000+ Brink users. We actually like this company and would like for them to speed up the production of Skyrim, so we'll give them one less thing to worry about. You're welcome! :D"
I'm starting to think companies are simply jumping into the hack bandwagon. Just think about it, by claiming to be hacked, those companies can discourage hackers from attempting to hack them because it has already been done, and there would be nothing to be gain from hacking the same thing twice.
They should do something funny with child porn or lolicon.
(Because this is plain boring)
Indeed, then maybe the government will capture them not for hacking but for child pornogrophy.
Bethesta, who's coders cannot design a bug free engine has a more secure site than Sony, now that's funny.
There exists a bug-free game? Pray, do tell about this completely bugless game.
Ping pong.
Actually, you could glitch Pong to make the ball phase through the paddles.
Bug-free may not exist, but Bethesda has a name for rolling out games where you:
* Sometimes fall through the landscape when you jump, ending up swimming in the sea below.
* Scripting errors and ill thought through quests, making it impossible to complete.
* Crashes when you walk too fast.
* Saves that rapidly grow so big that it takes ages to load a game.
And then we haven't really talked about the usability issues. Don't take me wrong - I think their games are great, even with these flaws. But with a bit more polish they could have been stellar crown jewels in their genre.
Anyway, I do think Bethesda is kind of cool and they don't deserve to get hacked.
It's not, because Beth's game engine developers aren't paid to make gimmicky Web2.0 sites. Those are very different things taking a very different skill set.