Bethesda “Attempted” Hack


Elder Scrolls developer Bethesda is reporting an “attempted” hack has netted user info, casting further doubt on the ability or trustworthiness of game companies when it comes to securing user data.

Their announcement:

Over the past weekend, a hacker group attempted an unlawful intrusion of our websites to gain access to data. We believe we have taken appropriate action to protect our data against these attacks.

While no personal financial information or credit card data was obtained, the hackers may have gained access to some user names, email addresses, and/or passwords. As a precaution, we recommend that all our fans immediately change passwords on all our sites, including our community forums, statistics site for Brink, and here on the blog.

If your username/email address/password is similar to what you use on other sites, we recommend changing the password at those sites as well. As we don’t know what further plans the hackers may have, we suggest that you keep an eye out for suspicious emails and account activity.

We regret any inconvenience that these attacks on us cause for you. These attacks will be evaluated to determine if there are any additional protections we might take that would be prudent.

It might come as news to hackers potentially sitting on a pile of email addresses and passwords that they have merely “attempted” a hack – apparently the theft of personal information other than credit card details is now so routine it can be brushed off as a mere failure to get at the good stuff.

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    Comment by NeoWorm
    06:04 14/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Maybe this is way how to force companies start selling games without those stupid registrations and online DRM bullshit. If they wont be able to guard the data, they will lose right to have them.

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    Comment by ollie
    11:56 14/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Thats a good idea, we didn't need registrations before, and they have not helped with the expierience in any way have they?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:19 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They have helped greatly. Helped CEOs to bigger paychecks, that is.

    Nothing like pretending you are doing something useful in front of the board/investors.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:08 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    @ NeoWorm 06:04

    The game -- and other -- companies which store your personal information NEVER had "a right" to do so.

    Customers handed that information over to them in order to buy their products and services.

    It seems that company managers have near-universally decided any bad press due to data breaches is just "a cost of doing business", rather than devote the needed information technology resources required to properly secure the data.

    Until a bunch of companies get bitch-slapped with multi-million dollar fines or class-action lawsuits -- which ISN'T going to happen -- they'll just keep doing what they've been doing.

    The customers have hurt the companies significantly, financially, before they'll change. Boycotts, visible, noisy protests, etc. Vote with your wallet, and let the companies' management KNOW why you're not buying their stuff.

    I think a majority of people are too addicted to their on-line-whatever service (PSN, MMO subscriptions, etc.) to make that happen.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    13:58 14/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    There really is no need for them to store personal data.
    The games can work just fine with out that.

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    Comment by Eleriel
    18:49 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2) the pirated versions of the games have proven ;)

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:37 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @ELeriel no as older games have proven, I brought Final Fantasy 7, it worked without any registration, or need to send any personal data to anyone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:50 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    hahaha, a wise man once said sometimes society can only move forward through the grave
    in other words the dinosaurs must die out
    frankly i wonder how come they still pay anyone for the DRM bull
    it doesnt do jack on single player focused games and multiplayer often gets bypassed as well
    further more every time a games ask me for play disks or steam does something stupid (thats every time i turn it on) i rather take the pirated copy so i dont have to rage over buying annoying crap
    your DRM idiocy will either get me brain hemorrhage or ill quit buying games - either way you lose a customer, yhear me DRM cretins?!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:22 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    A wise man would know better than put sweeping generalizations on the entire human race.

    Old ideas do not go away with people, they go away with a revolution, weather or not it involves actual civil uprising.

    But for DRM to disappear, there should be enough people who care for that first, which isn't happening as the average non-tech crowd doesn't know better.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:35 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    According to your comments, you already don't pay for games.
    Why are your statements valid then?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:04 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    i did say sometimes - and i never claimed the entire senior population is the problem, however when too many influential people adamantly adhere to absurd ideas you can only wait for them to die and hope for the new generation to know better

    and i used to not pay for games for budget reasons, now i try my best to buy all the games i enjoy
    steam and other crap is not helping my resolve

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:39 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    none of the good bethesda games require user data, unless they do on the consles? but who plays oblivion or fallout on consels? would miss out on all of the delicious mod content which makes the games twice as good~

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:11 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fanboys of the Addictus Consolicus fammily. In particular Addictus Ecsubocus and Addictus Preisteisinus.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:33 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm pretty sure they do in fact have the right to store your personal information for purposes relevant to their company. It's generally presented in the form of a Terms of Service thing that most people click "I Accept" without reading.

    Of course, you as a consumer being lazy and retarded has no bearing on their actions as a producer.

    Also, Artefact likes to overdramatize things in order to fit his narrative.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:16 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They don't, unless you give them permission, which you did by clicking the "I agree with the terms which nobody reads but we'll pretend you did and use it as evidence in court if needed".
    Most countries have severe restrictions on what your personal information can be used for, but accepting the "we can do whatever the fuck we want with your personal info" negates that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:55 28/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    depending on where it is sold. USA... yes, your pretty much screwed...

    here where i live they can say "but you pressed the (i Agree) button, so you accept our terms and cant do shit about it" but the law says straight out that the terms cant bypass the law nor give lower warranty rights than what you have trough the law on any point. and any ware, hard or software, that is sold here in shop or over net have to abide the law...

    we have had some cases with Apple that denied to fix iphones that broke after short time becase of cold (that they were supposed to handle) because "they have sign the contract that gave em just on month of limited warranty".
    the whole thing ended minor lawsuit by the state and then they just soon after the goverment increased the warranty length for new mobile phones from 2 to 5 years in the laws...

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    Comment by alidan
    10:30 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    if i like an mmo, ill play it.
    if i want to get a demo through psn i need it
    if i want a demo on live i need a silver at least

    untill there is an alternativeness, (re5 demo getting pirated comes to mind) i HAVE to have these services...

    im not willing to not play a game to prove a point. but pirate it... thats something i will do, so long as they understand why, and not an "im to cheap to buy it, more drm" way of thinking.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:25 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You don't have to play an MMO. You don't have to own a PS3. You don't have to own a PSN account.

    Until you are willing to sacrifice some potential enjoyment to make a point, corporations have zero interest in giving you a better service. The only way you can vote is your wallet.

    As for piracy, corporations just view it as something that will go away once they buy "convince" enough politicians in their point of view.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:24 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    those registration and online drm is to make sure that you are the holder of the account that own the registered game.

    companies already state that 2 of the biggest problems(besides piracy) that cause them to lose revenue is pre-owned games and rentals.

    Those who are against the registration and online drm(besides the potential risk of losing them to hackers) are basically someone who wants to steal without spending time and risk of using cracks, keygens and traced serials or better yet, purchase their own copy of the game that a group of people who spent years to create. I'll be hella pissed if someone got a hold of my serials and use it to play online, keeping me offline.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:47 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    those registration and online drm is to make sure that you are the holder of the account that own the registered game.

    Look mom, it's Captain Obvious! Yay!

    If someone stole your CDKEY, it's your own fault.
    A 20 character keyset has an insane amount of possible combinations (a 46 digit number) and guessing it is just not going to happen. The only way someone could have taken your CD key is by reading your manual or getting malware on your PC.
    It's your own fault either way, with MSE you have no excuse not to have an AV toolkit on a Windows machine.

    Those who are against the registration and online drm(besides the potential risk of losing them to hackers) are...

    A false dichotomy. I want to be able to play my games when I'm offline and when the auth servers are offline as it always happens with online DRM services.
    And I'd rather take my chances with cracks rather than pray to the rain gods that the auth servers are up.

    companies already state that 2 of the biggest problems(besides piracy) that cause them to lose revenue is pre-owned games and rentals.

    It's not illegal to sell a book or a DVD you own. Just why would it be legal to do that with software that I BOUGHT?

    Comment by Anonymous

    How the fuck is that supposed to help in any way?
    Seems like it'd drive away customers to me.
    If you want it out faster they'd need the money to do it.
    With no customers, then they can't do shit, now can they?

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:25 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    ... and there is the logic. They start actually focusing on making a more appealing product instead of developing more and more invasive DRM because they aren't making money. Seriously.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:51 14/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Wow what's with all the Bethesda hate? A company that hasn't sold out to EA or Activision AND supports modding and sandbox games?

    Jeez you people are freaks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:59 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not hate for me. Just glad it's not another Japanese company, Sony can finally take a break.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:16 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    No goal in hacking Sony anymore...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:50 14/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)


    Comment by Anonymous
    00:20 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    SKYRIM has already been fucked.. meet it's bastard spawn PC port and PS3 port.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:14 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Bethesta, who's coders cannot design a bug free engine has a more secure site than Sony, now that's funny.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:22 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    There exists a bug-free game? Pray, do tell about this completely bugless game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:33 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Ping pong.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:26 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, you could glitch Pong to make the ball phase through the paddles.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:32 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bug-free may not exist, but Bethesda has a name for rolling out games where you:
    * Sometimes fall through the landscape when you jump, ending up swimming in the sea below.
    * Scripting errors and ill thought through quests, making it impossible to complete.
    * Crashes when you walk too fast.
    * Saves that rapidly grow so big that it takes ages to load a game.
    And then we haven't really talked about the usability issues. Don't take me wrong - I think their games are great, even with these flaws. But with a bit more polish they could have been stellar crown jewels in their genre.
    Anyway, I do think Bethesda is kind of cool and they don't deserve to get hacked.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:30 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not, because Beth's game engine developers aren't paid to make gimmicky Web2.0 sites. Those are very different things taking a very different skill set.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:01 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Looks like they gonna attack Malaysia next. []

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:00 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    its not from the same person you silly anon

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    Comment by lovejuice
    17:40 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't want to set the world on fire.

    So do not hack Bethesda.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:26 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Need I remind that these companies cannot think of EVERY hack under the sun before they happen? Now, if it was a 'script kiddie' hack, then I say they should be lambasted for it.

    No reason that those things should work so easily.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:18 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    SQL injection and the password rampage I think so it might as well be a script kiddie hack

    Comment by Shironeko
    13:57 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    again bethesda showing how much of a boss they are.

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    Comment by Lariat
    15:25 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Conspiracy theory:
    The ones responsible for all these hacks lately is probably Artefact and co., posting news of hackings of big name companies to brag about his achievements and put the victims through humiliation!

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    Comment by D
    00:36 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Attempted hack" Don't they mean "Successful Hack"?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:27 16/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    so 4chans project chaos is finally showing signs of failure. Good, fuck 'em, it's not even worth laughing about anymore since they are going after game companies that provide entertainment for people, if they want to keep it "exclusive" to just these hackers, then they are what they hate being called, "Casuals."

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:29 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Even DRM can't stop the advancing of game crackers, I can't see why they keep going on with such annoying method.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:27 15/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    well guess what? steam is next.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:05 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nothing about a great voice actress passing away recently?
    all we get is more of this hacking bullshit!

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:18 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bethesda? They can get hacked to hell for all I care.

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    Comment by Stoopid Narb
    09:48 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Microsoft strikes yet again!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:37 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    all because Skyrim didn't have kinect support!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:34 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    no good's gonna come of this, y'know.

    If any action is taken by governments or businesses, it'll most likely be actions that ultimately hurt the consumers.

    even if this is all for the lulz, chances are, they will feel the affects of this too, eventually.

    or go to jail, if caught.

    either way, it ends in a severe pain in the ass.

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    Comment by Aliaus
    06:19 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm starting to think companies are simply jumping into the hack bandwagon. Just think about it, by claiming to be hacked, those companies can discourage hackers from attempting to hack them because it has already been done, and there would be nothing to be gain from hacking the same thing twice.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:06 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They did exactly what lulzsec wanted them to do, protect themselves from the threat. this comes off as a win win situation for the hackers and for Bethesda. high-5s all around for the security team

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:32 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    lulzsec just finds hacking people and ruining lives funny, there is no higher motive.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:09 14/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    whoops no wait cross that, they didn't listen they just claimed to. Head to the lulzsec site for their press release and a chunk of the bethesda database

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