Nintendo’s newly announced “Wii U” console is already the subject of controversy – the company has admitted using footage from the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of games in its promotional material, and when confronted over the swindle they lamely point to their discrete “all gameplay images are intended only as illustrations” disclaimer.

Nintendo claims it had no choice as the system and games are still in development, and asserts the actual Wii U versions will be “comparable,” which could well be a roundabout way of saying “worse.”

Various hard to find disclaimers indicate the images Nintendo has been using to illustrate the graphical capabilities of the Wii U are complete fiction, although without saying that it has gone so far as to use footage of its competitors’ products.

The quality of the graphics shown in Nintendo’s first party exclusive titles varied wildly (several being barely Wii level), and the “they are only intended as an image” disclaimer rather casts doubt on whether the more impressive titles (such as Zelda, above) will look anywhere near as good as Nintendo would like people to believe.

Indeed, the only real assurance Nintendo has given as to the power of the Wii U is to say that it supports full HD output – but whether it can actually output any graphics worth viewing in HD is another matter.

In their defence however, they did display the rather impressive rendering demo below, although it may or may not be anything like what can expected in real games:

The usual sad disclaimer that official preview images of games are never, ever to be believed is unfortunately as accurate as ever.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    12:56 09/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Nintendo fanboys are an agressive bunch....

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    Comment by Nekomancer
    00:56 10/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Indeed, they are. Funny how often they are mistakenly portrayed as a polite and cultural bunch...In a moments like that they show their true face;)

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 12/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, perhaps they don't have as casual a demeanor as people claim... How strange.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:51 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This entire article is flaming Nintendo. I think they're just getting defensive.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:33 09/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Nintendo fanboys are fucking retarded lol.

    Comment by chihiro
    05:12 09/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Remember people good graphics doesn't mean a good game.Graphics are not important. It about the gameplay that matter.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:19 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then I guess pong is good enough for you for the rest of your life - people were all over that when it first came out. There is absolutely no need to improve anything, right?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:21 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Are you that ignorant to not understand Sorachanmine simple statement? Updating everything and just updating graphics are entirely different things....By your stance, you would play every reiteration of Pong as long as the graphics got better and nothing else? Well done.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:24 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    He is talking about gameplay and graphics. I would much rather play a 2D game with an amazing story and gameplay than a new 3D game with the best graphics in the world and shitty gameplay.

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    Comment by Elcachetondelpuro

    That's true only when graphics doesn't suck cook =(

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:24 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    There was no "passing off" game footage. Nintendo wanted to show the games that are agreed to be developed/ported in a video, because a text list at a press conference like that wouldn't get people pumped up, and it would be boring as shit. So, barring time travel, why would a version of a game for a system that won't come out for at least another year have any footage?
    There was a disclaimer, Reggie said it afterwards, and only trolls and idiots would say they think it was Wii U footage of the games.
    Not to mention the zelda demo and the bird/garden demo WERE on the system, and demonstrated the at least PS3 ability of the system.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:31 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    As much as I find things like this a silly attempt at getting more traffic. You have to admit, this does bait all the Sony and Microsoft fanboys out into the open, because if they bothered to check their sources elsewhere. They wouldn't be making an ass of themselves here. But then again, keep on bashing the graphics retards, since the demo's are directly from your own consoles.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:22 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Implying Nintendo fans weren't out parading their new console which "destroys" PS3 and 360 graphics.

    Of course there would be a backlash after all the hype and "actual game footage shown".

    Comment by Anonymous

    There was no claim of "actual game footage shown"

    Comment by Anonymous


    Go back to /v/, asstard.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    10:36 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @anon 09:23

    So you're saying he isn't?
    Trust me, I've been here for the past three years - I know all about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:23 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sad thing is that he calling Artefact an idiot is the only counter argument he has, but cannot further explain why.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:05 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think we all know Artefact is a troll, always slanting articles so that they incite emotion in those that have a certain attachment to what is being written about.

    All the same, I keep coming here. It's fun. I know what I'm in for.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:06 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    troll, maybe... anyone who publishes works has to find a way to grab your attention. with this site's context and demographic it is the best strategy. i've come to expect playful article titles from artefact. as far as idiot goes, i have to disagree. he is knowledgable about topics that are on this site. which include silly stuff as well as current events and politics.


    Comment by Anonymous
    11:23 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you want accurate news or stories, go to bbc or reuters.
    SanCom is a blog for entertainment purpose, you come to this site fully aware that you're reading the author's thoughts and opinions.
    Of course some people might disagree with some of the author's opinions, heck he can troll however he wants and there's nothing you can do about it because this is his blog.
    The solution? Simply search another blog that always suits your opinions. The internet is vast and you definitely will find one. Maybe...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:37 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Facts? Accuracy? Since when is Sankaku an internet journal and not just a sampler for new fap material?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:08 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    i kinda realized the footage they used wasn't from the wii U it was obviously done by a low definition systems also given that the video was telling you what games the creators were thinking of making it was kind of obvious

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:15 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why on earth would they have the same footage if they had to play it on a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT KIND OF CONTROLLER?

    I mean come on, it was awfully obvious that it was not played on the Wii U just from that. Yes, the Wii U support the older wii controllers, but half the point of the new console is the controller...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:44 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Die with your gay machine, Nintendo

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:11 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Of course it's only illustration of what the WiiU will be able to do, the console's final spec aren't even finalised, Nintendo said it themselves, this will be a "great value" for what you get, it may as well end up with AMD APU in it or something for all we know. Which I won't complain about.
    Don't spit on it before even seeing it, sure they used their competitor's footage, but do you serisouly think the games will look worse now that this kind of HD hardware is almost dirt cheap?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:24 09/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    HANG ON!!!



    Really guys anyone who claims or does post facts that Nintendo ripped off footage from other consoles is a crappy useless site and said "it's been done before".

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:47 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You obviously haven't noticed the flaming thread all around you.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Whoa. Award for most retarded comment on this thread, so far. And that's quite a feat.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:04 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    seriously HD hardware is almost dirt cheap right? tell that to N3DS Handsheld console Game : MGS3D. We won't believe all the things show up here until they actually release a working game for us to see.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:11 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    3D hardware is not dirty cheap.

    A tiny difference there?

    HD - 3D
    I know it's only one letter/number appart, but most of us got it right...

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    Comment by Artefact

    You could say that about the original Wii. And it being a year before the release is a fairly good indicator that the spec is finalised.

    The fact is, Nintendo was clearly aiming to impress non-casual "mainstream" gamers with the graphically impressive titles they showed off - but it transpires that they switched the graphics with those of the existing consoles. It takes the most ardent faith in Nintendo to find this reassuring.

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    Comment by Anya
    16:04 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I thought it was obvious the video they showed was not running on WiiU. Games that are multi-platform always show what looks the best. Look at Battlefield 3. All the trailers have been PC. This was just a case of Nintendo showing what was available to be shown. To even suggest that the actually WiiU version could look worse than the one running on a 5/6 year old system is stupid. I know it's fun to hate on Nintendo, but do you seriously think they would release a new system that couldn't do as good if not better than what's been available for the last half decade?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:19 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Erm.... The Wii came out quite some time after the 360 and around the same time as the ps3 and has graphical capabilities similar to the previous generations hardware so, yeah, Nintendo have gone down the gimmicky controller route rather than technically impressive before. Infact it was their raison d'etre as they said they wanted to consentrate on involving the gamer rather than wowing them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:17 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Battlefield 3 = a game, so it's obvious they'll show the best footage, showing something that looks considerably worse wouldn't be the best advertisement, would it? Besides, it's still the same game, whether they show PC or console footage, so it doesn't matter.

    Wii U is a gaming console, so they should show appropriate footage of what the console can achieve and if they are showing footage from another platform, there should be a disclaimer stating so. They did this with the intention of fooling customers and building hype around another piece of plastic with a gimmick, similar to what they did with MGS on the 3DS, which doesn't look nearly as good as what was promised.

    So what, let's say there's a game on a PS1 and the same game on the PS2 with improved graphics and everything, would it be okay if Sony advertised the PS1 showing footage of the PS2 game? Didn't think so.

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    Comment by Taniguchi
    00:24 10/06/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Well they are not the only ones doing these, Killzone, Gran Turismo, and a lot of other games have done things like these for advertising.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:26 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Zelda and Garden videos were real time, you fucking idiot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:26 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    how does it being used before make it ok, its still a disrespectfull marketing practice. and I for one do not intend to buy anything from these greedy whores.

    I'll wait and get my systems/games used like I always do so that these jackoffs don't profit from me.

    allthough all thats been said above is true on technicality. a bit of fine print or half baked loop hole doesn't change the fact that these were crealry intended to make the wii u seem to be amazingly graphically advanced, when by their own admission they still haven't even finished making the system.

    even if they make it as good as its been shown and live up to their own prediction, it doesn't change the fact that they were being dishonest, and disrespectfull to their customers.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:31 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have to say, Nintendo was not "clearly aiming" to do anything like you have mentioned. There is a chance they might have, and there is a chance it was a completely unintentional thing. To take speculation and pass it off as hard-facts is a biiig no-no.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:24 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    But they has Halo and Killzone and Motorstorm and Gears gameplay running on PS3 and 360.

    While WiiU had 100% PS3 and 360 gameplay footage with 2 pre-recorded videos (Zelda and JP garden).

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:38 12/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Except there was gameplay shown. And playable tech demos for that matter.
    Granted super mario bros mii isn't exactly pushing the envelope, but it was playable.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:33 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ 22:26

    Which is it really then. Scroll down the comment list and see another Nintendo fan say there "was no real gameplay footage shown".

    See Anon 10:56

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:38 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well it's about trust.

    But seriously, the hardware needed for this kind of graphics is in fact dirt cheap today.
    Good middle class notebooks can achieve those graphics already.

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    Comment by TC-man
    20:24 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Middle Class notebooks with faster IGP with those graphics cost over 500 USD. We are talking about a new game console which equipped with a new PowerPC 7 processor.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:57 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I appreciate Nintendos approach for experimenting with new input devices. They implemented quite alot stuff which is used as a regular basis nowadays.
    I hope they will succeed and bring new stuff in the future too.

    Nintendo's kinda the Apple of gaming.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Yeah, overpriced, style over substance, and with a cultlike army of fanboys willing to sell body parts to afford the latest minor upgrade.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:26 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    nintendo isn't like apple at all.
    apple only use already existing technology but make it simpler for people who don't know what a power button looks like or doesn't understand the word "type" (as in "file type", apple calls it "kind")

    nintendo try to change how consoles are used. Other companies call it "gimmicks" and "useless" a few years before they copy it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:47 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well it's more like bringing new stuff to the audience and succeeding. Just like the Iphone brought us a whole bunch of smartphones, the DS brought us a touchscreen to portables. On both sides competitors adapted to the new hardware and implemented it to its new hardware.

    And my guess is that Sony and MS are going to copy Nintendo again in some way, if they succeed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:00 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Nintendo should go bankrupt already, if only Nintendo fans had at least half of a brain, they'd notice that it's a company selling outdated hardware with a gimmick stuck on top of it to cover it up.

    Also, marketing based on lies. And 50% of nintendo's own Wii games being remakes of old titles. The word 'originality' does not exist in Nintendo's dictionary, controllers with screens on them were already used long, long ago when Sega made the Dreamcast (well, the screen was technically a part of the VMU, but you get the idea, you could play (mini)games on VMU, too). [don't go saying "DC didn't have a touchscreen" or "It was super small!", obviously it was worse, it was 1998/1999 for crying out loud]

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:13 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't have a problem with Nintendo clearly stating that these are the types of games and gameplay you can expect to see on the Wii U, then using footage from other games/consoles. To argue otherwise is to blatantly miss the whole point (or you didn't even bother watching the press conference).

    Am I surrounded by beautiful women while sitting on a beach every time I crack open a Corona? Of course not. Do I bust out J-turns while driving by gorgeous sunsets every time I drive a Jetta? Of course not. Does a smart ass black kid suddenly come into my living room to make jokes every time I turn on my PS3? Of course not.

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    Comment by POKI
    10:02 09/06/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    you don't expect someone to be drinking a chocolate milk in a strawberry milk commercial.

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