“Why Do Japanese Use Circle = Correct & Tick = Incorrect?”

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The question of why the Japanese perversely mark correct answers with a circle rather than a tick, as any sane person would do, and then insist on compounding their deviance by using ticks to indicate incorrect answers, has lately been the subject of much attention on 2ch.

The initial exchange (translated from the original English into Japanese, and subsequently presented to 2ch):

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“Tell me this – one of the things about Seto I don’t get is this picture. Putting a tick by the correct answer is the world standard, isn’t it?”

“It’s called a ‘check’ you moron.”

“Typical fucking yank who thinks that’s the only name it’s called?”

“In Japan the correct answer gets the circle and the check or x is for wrong answers.”

“The circle is for wrong answers. I think this is the same everywhere.”

“Why is Japanese culture so backwards? The check is for correct answers, the cross or circle for incorrect ones, everyone knows this.”

“What do you expect from a country which insists porno puts mosaics on genitals alone? I’ll never accept anything they do as logical.”

“It depends on your teacher, idiots.”

“In my country you get circles on your mistakes and nothing on the correct ones.”

“In Japan a circle is a correct answer and a tick is an incorrect answer. What part of this do you people not understand?”

2ch is incensed about barbarians daring to comment on Yamato culture:

“Well, you wouldn’t expect a bunch of hairy foreigners to understand something like this.”

“Japan is so backwards! We should match the world standard!”

“What? Since when did incorrect answers get a check mark? Japanese put an ‘x’ by incorrect answers.”

“Yes yes, everything our white masters say is true and correct!”

“Those foreigners don’t know what they are talking about…”

“How nice it is to see how understanding these people are of other cultures.”

“Japan is on a OX system, fucking foreign scum.”

“Foreign games have x for OK and circle for cancel – that’s even stranger.”

“They are just watching pirated anime anyway.”

“I don’t want to be told my culture is backwards by a bunch of people who are busy pirating it.”

“Dumb whities, just because Japan is different doesn’t mean it’s a global standard.”

“‘What do you expect from a country which insists porno puts mosaics on genitals alone?’ – GRRR.”

“They think they are always right!”

“Japan should change. I don’t get why a tick means incorrect.”

“They are just too stupid to understand cultural differences.”

“Foreigners are like frogs in a well [ignorant of the ways of the world]. Foreigners need to adopt a more global perspective.”

“Ah, this lot are just like you guys. I bet they don’t want to be told how their culture should be by you lot either. You hate them because they’re the same as you.”

“I don’t want to be told this stuff by people who insist on using Fahrenheit, yards, pounds or whatever other Galapagos standards it is they use.”

“The mosaic stuff in porn is based on the notion that because you can’t see their genitals they are not actually having sex. It’s retarded. The Motion Picture Code of Ethics Committee needs to be abolished.”

“I’ll admit the mosaic stuff is messed up. Doesn’t matter how perverse it is, as long as it has the mosaic it’s not obscene? Abolish it.”

“Foreigners are always trying to push their culture on others. Japan hasn’t done that since the war.”

“I first became aware of this difference when I took a simple overseas training test. At first I was like ‘yay, I got them all right!’…”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    02:01 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    “Foreigners are like frogs in a well [ignorant of the ways of the world]. Foreigners need to adopt a more global perspective.”

    Yeah! Foreigners (presumably everyone not from Japan) need to adopt a more GLOBAL perspective. Made me laugh.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:00 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Gaijin is typically used to refer to white foreigners.
    They mostly refer to other foreigners by their actual race. ie Asians.

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    Comment by Naoli
    05:00 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I wonder if they know, japanese are consider as foreigners as well

    Everyone is a foreigner

    Comment by Anonymous

    I believe the 2ch poster meant grobar perspective.

    HaHaHa.

    Seriously, i'll take Japaneser's opinions into account when they start pronouncing R correctly.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:31 06/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why the fuck should they? It's not part of their native language. Let's see you speak Japanese without an accent.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:21 08/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japanese is easy as fuck to speak without an accent. What are you talking about?

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    Comment by Yagami Hideto
    02:05 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    fuck it, mate. it's their business. what's wrong with this kind of differences??

    but i have to agree about the mosaic on the porn, that's just damn stupid.

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    Comment by AmusementEngineer
    02:46 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    They just doing it wrong, i mean why don't censor the face of all that fat hairy dudes instead of those pink delicious lips. That'd be perfect!

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:57 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    There's no such thing as "doing it wrong" mate. "Doing it differently" is what you should have said. Ever wonder why in the Philippines, soldiers dine with rebels during holidays, birthdays or festivals? =_=

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:21 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    “I don’t want to be told this stuff by people who insist on using Fahrenheit, yards, pounds or whatever other Galapagos standards it is they use.”

    On the other hand, this is a really good point...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:54 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Get with the metric system you idiots.
    You think you're so special you have to use something that doesn't even use nice round numbers as a base?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:03 06/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    "Doing it wrong"==Doing something that doesn't work.

    "doing it different"==That's just how they roll.

    Personally, I use a check/tick for correct answers and an x for incorrect. It would probably be very confusing if I had any Japanese students.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:01 06/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I wonder if USA will ever accept the metric system, all this crap just because it comes from a CERTAIN country (yes, this one), so systems from middle-age are just fine i guess.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:20 08/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Look guys America isn't the only country in the world to still be stuck using the imperial system, this is a flat out lie.
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    Burma doesn't use the metric system either lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:58 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    speak for your own country. Use the metric system here.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Why use metric? Imperial was working fine until the whiny Europeans said "but its too complicated!" If it ain't broke don't fix it and we're doing just that.

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    Comment by Geno-nii
    10:19 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Agreed and yup, JAV are way hotter without mosaics.

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    Comment by Diemeow23
    17:25 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Lol I just imagined if they just decided to make everything mosaicked, whole screen would be Pffft hahaha

    More importantly(hahaha pixels), there was never anything to (Mosi~acs XD) discuss about seriously foreigners have a lot of nerve about looking down upon those who are different from them but a lot of them don't realize that their own race propagated individuality, talk about going the other way, never for once did the circles and checks thing bother me( I mean sure it was different ), sure some of us thought of that when we were younger but this people already go to Internet frequently you'd think they'd be smart enough to figure it for themselves

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    Comment by FreeHopper
    17:58 06/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They censor it not because 'hurr durr it's not obscene anymore', they do it so that it will be less damaging to people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:34 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    agree, totally agree, content matter , not the goddamn symbol of right/wrong ( in my country, it 's a check for correct and an x for wrong one )

    and yes, why mosaic ???!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:30 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @yagami hideto
    I don't think so.For some reason I prefer it like that in porn

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:40 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because you're a freak?

    Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak!!! *Throws tomatoes*

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:09 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You ment...

    "Hes diffrent! Get him!!!"

    but no.. we all should have a open mind and accept other cultures! the same reason why i going to work in japan for one year xD yay cant wait to see my japanese friends!

    greetings from doitsu!

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:45 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    true everything in japan is backwards even how they treat there prisoners

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:03 07/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because they are clearly wrong.

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    Comment by Panda Hero
    01:11 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    “Well, you wouldn’t expect a bunch of hairy foreigners to understand something like this.” rofl you´re the hairy peepz

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    Comment by Naoli
    05:03 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    They won't be to tell because of the mosaic tiles

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    Comment by Eddyak
    10:20 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    “Foreigners are like frogs in a well [ignorant of the ways of the world]. Foreigners need to adopt a more global perspective.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH GOD MY RIBS

    If the guy who posted this isn't a troll, he deserves to be castrated for his stupidity. The world does not need people this stupid.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    17:53 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    I do think it's funny in the context that Japanese has been the 'wannabe westerners' for HUNDREDS of years. It's kind of funny how they openly adopted Western culture so much, they based their entire democratic system, school system and even language (tons of "Japanese" words are Dutch nowadays. With some German, French and English mixed in).

    That said, I don't think the Os and Xs systems makes a ton of sense. It's just how things just go. There's a variety of explanation as to why they're denoted that way, but I do think it might make more sense in the sense that in America, Os denote 'Zero' and checks denote 'approval' in a VERY specific way.

    I didn't really get 'confused' when I learned how Americans graded it. I 'got' the system considering the context.

    Either way, I don't think it's right to rib on other cultures, but saying how the Os and Xs makes more sense? I don't agree and I'm Japanese.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:26 06/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I thought there were more english terms in the japanese language, i'm rather surprised with what you say about dutch words (i know a (little) bit of dutch). Well perhaps it's just that when I see a dutch word identical to an english one, i think immediately that it comes from english while in fact it could be the opposite. It's the same for the many (many) french words in the english language which were later adopted by japanese, sometimes without being aware that it wasn't english in the first place.
    It's kind of complicated ahah.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:42 10/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd actually bet money that it's usually based on the dutch word in that case...English likes to ambush other languages and rummage through their pockets for loose grammar. For the lulz.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:41 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    “I don’t want to be told this stuff by people who insist on using Fahrenheit, yards, pounds or whatever other Galapagos standards it is they use.”

    They do kinda have a point that the USA's measurement system is kinda retarded.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:10 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The metric system is superior. Haven't the US half changed or something? Or was that England? All metric in Australia old chum.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:54 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm an American, and if you ask me, I'd rather we go Metric sooner than later. The only reason why Imperial is still around is because it is easily understood by idiots. An inch is the length of a digit, one foot is about the length of a human foot, one yard is the average length of a stride, and so forth.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:55 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    most of the anglosphere uses a mix of both, when the last of the ww2 generation is dead the only imperial mesurement used will be miles per hour

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:04 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @13:10, not exactly sure about the US (though I believe their army uses the metric system), but I know while Canada is officially a metric nation, most people use a mix of the two. Me and most people I know for example, use feet/inches for height and pounds for weight, but use meters/kilometers for distance and liters/milliliters for liquids. Not sure why we do it this way, but it's just what everyone where I live does.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:02 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm pretty sure the metric system is pretty much the only good thing to ever have come out of France. Ever.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:55 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Americans really are ignorant of the world.
    80% of Americans really believe people live in igloos in Canada and ride around on dog sleds while hunting bears/moose/whatever.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:04 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    those japs're really scared of hair

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    Comment by Imyou
    04:49 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol... Well, I'm a white guy, and I have more hair on my chest than most Japanese I've seen have anywhere but their heads. Then, they probably rip it out like most other cultures too, so who knows what's natural there. I've never seen a really wooly Japanese dude tho.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:06 06/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    japanese people don't have hair on their chests, instead they concentrate all the hair in their pubes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:14 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, most Asian doesn't have chest hair, FYI...

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    Comment by alidan
    10:37 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    wish i had no body hair.

    how many women without a body hair fetish think body hair is sexy?

    as in if it was between you, and you with body hair, that the body hair would be a deciding point in the hairy ones favor and not not in their favor?

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:56 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eww. chest hair Get rid of that shit.

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    Comment by Kyon
    01:10 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Why do some people think THEIR cultures are the standart for the world?

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    Comment by starsplash
    02:10 05/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    its kinda like saying how people from the US, even though they have never been outside the US, they insist that the US is the best place in the world. Patriotism only goes so far, then it just makes people retarded.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:48 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Essentially, its the same as US using Inch and feet where everywhere in world uses metric...even the British doesn't use that anymore.

    It's more of convention than convenience

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:30 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Exactly. Fucking feets and inches and yards an Farhenheit, wtf is US culture thinking!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:49 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I always say, "There are only three countries in the world who officially use the Imperial measurement system, and they're all third world countries: Liberia, Myanmar and the USA."

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:44 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They wanted to change that in the 70s, you know, start using Celsius and meters and all that stuff. Then they noticed:
    "Well shit, that's gonna be expensive making new books and street signs and all. Let's drop that."

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:20 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL
    I HAVE! PHYSICS MAJOR FTW! learning upper division quantum mechanics! but honestly, the fact that upper division math and science classes in the US use metric systems doesn't change the fact that most Americans use feet or inches :D And over here we are talking about in general, no? Talking about different things here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:38 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ever taken a higher division math or science in the US, or had a job that required such skills? They actually DO use the International System of Units (SI).

    You guys are so smart.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:35 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Derp, imperial system is used widely by the public. Herp derp.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:54 06/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Patriotism has to be one of the most stupid things created by the human being.

    I live in Mexico. I once saw on tv a commercial or whatever it was with a kid saying "Mexico is the best country of the world!".

    I was like "lol no".

    Makes you realize that the only reason most people who love their country so much do so and think it's the best is BECAUSE THEY WERE BORN IN IT.

    Meaning that if they had been born somewhere else that would be the "best country". Or thinking in a different manner: if you had been born in another country, would this one still be the best in your opinion? Saying yes makes no sense. That other country you live in would be.

    I'm sorry for a bit of long comment but I just think it's very dumb that the motive to love a country is a mere random chance of where you could have been born.

    And of course I am merely talking about those who love their countries just because "we are this".

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:40 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You know what the funniest part is? A lot of people have been outside the US, and they still have their patriotism/nationalism/whatever you want to call it.

    Fascism makes people retarded, but the one mentioned above can be a good thing. Learn the difference.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:04 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You probably have no idea what fascism is besides from your communist propaganda education. If you don't know what you are talking about then kindly STFU.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:45 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    A person that grew up at one place in the world will think that their place is the standard for the world because they lived at that place in the world since birth and have not experienced other places around the world.

    Hope that helps.

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    Comment by AmusementEngineer
    03:12 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly. In my place we have a proverb, translated to English it goes along the line- "Even just go outside one day, you gonna learn a whole lot of things". Ignorance is bliss, but for others it's a pain in the ass. But for those who act like a bunch of shut-in, i don't think others opinion will matter, especially from the so-called white people (i'm asian btw)
    I don't want to sound like a self-righteous smug (if i indeed sounded like that, i'm sorry, but that's the way it come out), but there another idiom "It takes just a few years of our childhood to learn to talk, but it takes our whole life just to learn one simpler thing: to shut up"

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    Comment by Kuraudo
    02:40 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah, it's because people think everyone should use one standard, like the metric system for example. A lot of people in the world will use a circle to denote a wrong answer, not just "the whites."

    I'm curious as to how China and South Korea practice it, however.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:12 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey this is the first place that ticks get a mention.

    We were always marked ticks for correct answers and crosses for wrong (in Oz).

    The only time zero's (circles) turned up was when marks were being allocated (so I suppose zero was the equivalent of no marks or completely wrong).

    Just for fun another "standard/no standard" is nodding the head for "yes" and shaking the head fo "no".

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    Comment by the running boy
    02:44 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    South Korea uses the same system- circles for right answers and ticks for wrong ones.

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    Comment by PirateKing
    01:33 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Yeah, especially when all other cultures see things differently. It's like the dude driving against the traffic on motorways who thinks all others are wrong.

    :-)

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    Comment by kazaza2
    02:09 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    You mean in Japan they don't weigh in stone and measure in hands? Outrageous! ;-)

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:50 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Actually, no one in the U.S. uses stone or hands anymore... though, curiously, I sometimes hear this from Brits.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:55 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    measure in hands? you mean like in anime? you know, girls groping each other in order to measure bust sizes?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:02 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    hence me calling you Dickhead.

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    Comment by NEET
    02:51 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^im guessing you're an american, lol

    Comment by Anonymous

    In my country, we weigh in balls and measure in cocks, and intellect by the girth of our peckers.

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    Comment by cheese_cake
    01:48 05/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    the same reasons jews became the scapegoat of hitler's regime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:44 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    i love hitler

    kill jews!!!!

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    Comment by Pyrus
    11:04 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hitler was from Austria. His mother had him out of wedlock & now no one knows who the daddy was. To top it off, it is believed that "Hitler" might not be the correct spelling of his name.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:54 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    fuck off faggot

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:52 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    where was Hitler from anyway, Germany or Austria; not that I was fond of the likes of him or anything, just wanna make sure, I mean, if he was from Austria, wouldn't that have made him a foreigner in Germany too?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:12 08/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hitler was Austrian. Before they merged, that town was in Austria and it's still in Austria.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:00 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nostradamus predicted him as Hister....=_= And anyway he's just a misunderstood omnicidal maniac. And dead, did I mention he's dead?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:19 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Same as you.
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