Oniichan no Koto’s 10th episode is being accorded legendary status for the quality of its earthquake warning synchronicity amidst waves of discontent at the now almost omnipresent tsunami map.
In other news Tokyo stations are cancelling anime broadcasts in droves in favour of running endlessly redundant earthquake news, a response which is either a blessing (they will be spared further warnings) or a curse (they will have to put up with no anime and gloating from Kansai) to anime fans.
That's what I hate about controversy, Its not like it was created after the tsunami and it might have been planned before the incident and thats why its unfair for them to start hating on it. Just leave it alone T-T
I was just thinking about the British and The Simpsons.
There's an episde where Bumblebee Man takes over Kent Brockman's newsreader position because of some trivial matter and mentions a tsunami in Kuala Lumpur.
It gets removed from syndicated re-runs.
It's basically like the British try to sweep it under the rug and try to pretend like it never happened.
Its the same thing with 9-11, that ep with Homer Simpson trying to use the bathroom in one of the twin towers while they are there. After that incident...its gone from syndication
Wait, are you serious? Him going to the bathroom in the twin towers is deemed offensive? Political correctness is going to be the death of the human race, what the fuck.
Well considering the circumstances, I dont see how one can rant about anime broadcast being cancelled and tsunami map over anime, etc. I mean, fuck, it'S probably one of the worst state of crisis for Japan since the end of WWII.
Then again if we'speaking about hardcore otaku, who knows what is happening in their head.
I'm wondering if foreign otaku mass-preordering this episode would be a good display of support for japans current situation? (supporting the Japanese economy...)
I don't see the point of this map pop-up. There's virtually no person in Japan who doesn't know about the disaster. People who are watching this program certainly do so because they want to distract themselves from all the pain.
But in all honesty... I do not understand the point of putting that warning on anything. If you are watching anime during it... it's pretty clear that you don't care about it.
I know they remove episodes if someone's murdered with an ax and such if there's similarities to a recent real world event, but it does bring up the fact that a tsunami is a natural disaster. It has no villainy to it and doesn't attack anyone personally. So even if lives are lost in such an event, really I don't see this being accidental bad taste at all. It may make some people uncomfortable if they have lost loved ones, definitely. But it's not like anyone can say "Children will see this and think tsunami are fun and trivial" or something ridiculous like that. In a strange way, seeing characters live through a tsunami may be a psychological benefit.
Hey It reminded me of an episode from the US series,The Lone Gunmen,an X-files spin-off,where the pilot episode predict the 9/11 attack months before it happened.
@HouseLife
Although I don't mind broadcasts of similar events, I don't see where your logic is coming from.
The reason why people don't air episodes with similar contents is out of respect for those who have witnessed the said event, because it could trigger traumatic feelings. In what way is this different from something that is under control by people?
That's exactly my point... HouseLife was defending the fact that tsunami isn't the same as a murder because a tsunami is natural. But that isn't the point is it?
Even though it's ridiculous, I can see Ishihara making that connection. No, wait... especially because it's ridiculous.
And if anyone wasn't clear, there wasn't a tsunami in the episode. It was a moment when the boys were picturing what the cosplay princess was telling them about a "ruler of destruction".
I'm sorry, but I think they could have at least stopped the broadcast for a week or something. It's not about whether it's right or wrong or need to be banned, but the timing is just wrong.
Like how they delayed the release of Metal Gear Solid 2 during the 9/11 attacks' aftermath.
I just don't feel 'right' in watching anime poke fun about tsunami like that right when something real is happening. Give me a week or two and it would be perfectly fine.
Even for broadcasts, I wonder how they aren't accounting for potentially millions of customers without power or brownouts?
I'm not saying things should be banned or it's morally wrong. I just think it's a sensitive time plus all the potential customers in the viewing audience aren't there since there's millions in brown/black outs. There's a whole bevy of issues economy-wise there too.
Just delaying them a little bit isn't really making some statement that censorship is right or anything. And sorry, Houselife, but I can't take any joke about catastrophes as something funny. Especially since currently going, I've lived through too many of them. And my heart is breaking for my distant relatives my family has in many of those regions and even if something like their property being damaged, it just sucks to hear the kind of trials and tribulations they've gone through. That's kind of why I won't be against some kind of delay. I'd rather see people try to recover a bit, maybe get those blackouts in order and be eased into living again.
I agree, however in reality, is it any better two weeks from now when we see the death tole hit over 1000 and people have realization of what level of destruction has hit them? No, no matter what it'll rub certain people the wrong way based on their circumstances.
If they are offended because they don't understand that time continues moving forward, and this was created long before this happened and isn't an intentional cosmic joke, then that is their own issue in believing the world's out to get them. It's an understandable reaction if they have devastation in their lives, but in the end, those people are locked in their own minds right now, dealing with tragedy. They lack perspective in that state, and that shouldn't cause problems for everyone else because they saw a show. From what I observe, it wasn't even a big part of the show, but a passing gag unrelated to anything else. I could be wrong on that point, however.
Either way, people who live through and must deal with tragedy will always have my sympathy and support, but they will not get special treatment from me when they start blaming things and seeking illogical vengeance against their circumstances such as complaining about an animated tsunami joke after a tragic event. I am one of the people after 9/11 who saw the photoshop of Godzilla attacking the burning world trade center and laughed my ass off. Why? Because it was funny.
Agreed, Shippoyasha, but again, a TV broadcast will do nothing for or against them in that situation. It's not out of disrespect that it was shown, so by that logic, it's not disrespectful to show either. It's merely what it was, no more, no less.
Of course it doesn't matter, because being offended is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure there are some over there who have/will take offense to it being shown and there'll be some kind of apology.
Well gee, if it offends you, turn off the god damn television. There is no fucking reason to ruin it for others just because you don't like it, for whatever reason that may be. However, it is apparently easier to bitch and moan and get stuff banned and/or censored than it is to just ignore stuff that doesn't suit your tastes.
"Episode 377: Shaking Island Battle! Barboach VS Whiscash!! Reason for Banning:
The most recent episode has not been aired anywhere in the world, not even Japan. It was originally postponed due to massive earthquakes in the area and since it features Whiscash making Earthquakes it would have been bad taste. However this episode was scheduled for a further Japanese showing but didn't air. Now it has come to the US Airing and it again has been skipped"
Whether it'd be pulled or not is not necessarily what I was talking about, just whether this could be considered bad taste. Chances are they're working on much more important things than people being offended right now. And if they tried to do something stupid like pull programming in case of offense now, people would lose money and fiscal issues they don't need would arise.
But then, I always overestimate humanity's ability not to let things slide in favor of a good laugh. I anticipate there'll be a backlash article in a day or so because of people who want to blame something.
Pokemon I can sort of understand pulling an episode if kids could be nervous about an earthquake in their area. But it's still a weak-minded thing to do.
I vote for some trainee blunder which allowed this to air. I mean, they canceled one piece twice because of a single tsunami. Thank God they aren't common.
Thanks doc Freeman. I never understood why they even banned some of those eps in the past or what this 'bad taste' is that you describe. No sarcasm intended.
It does except that the people taking over Detroit are the Government not neo feudalist managers AND it was the liberal democratic policies of detroit... More
definition of irony.
Actually, the scene of the tsunami in the anime has learning purposes.
The word has A LOT of meanings.
Is even a way of act.
In Poland they aired Twister the day after some villages on the south were uttely destroyed by tornadoes lol
Yep, I remember that day. Helluva ironic if you ask me.
in germany they aired "die hard" the day the pope died
god really seems to have a sense of humor
I'm sure people will be complaining about this, but what do they want them to do?
Re-animate the entire episode?
That's what I hate about controversy, Its not like it was created after the tsunami and it might have been planned before the incident and thats why its unfair for them to start hating on it. Just leave it alone T-T
I was just thinking about the British and The Simpsons.
There's an episde where Bumblebee Man takes over Kent Brockman's newsreader position because of some trivial matter and mentions a tsunami in Kuala Lumpur.
It gets removed from syndicated re-runs.
It's basically like the British try to sweep it under the rug and try to pretend like it never happened.
Its the same thing with 9-11, that ep with Homer Simpson trying to use the bathroom in one of the twin towers while they are there. After that incident...its gone from syndication
Wait, are you serious? Him going to the bathroom in the twin towers is deemed offensive? Political correctness is going to be the death of the human race, what the fuck.
That! that exactly is what I hate...It isn't their fault, if I was them I would still go for it
This is proof that humor is the true path.
+1
Anime is the true path.
it can't be helped. Security and informations are more important than animes during such terrible events...
No it's not.
I hope you die in a similar terrible event. Then we'll see who's laughing.
burn the blasphemous heathen (and moe-troll too)!
Looks like a hot episode..... that bikini armor is a dream.
sorry but... haw haw...
Too soon
I wonder what program is used to make those animated gifs?
photoshop + imageready
oh the irony
021.gif made me lol hard. even the anime was hit with the tsunami Xp
Well considering the circumstances, I dont see how one can rant about anime broadcast being cancelled and tsunami map over anime, etc. I mean, fuck, it'S probably one of the worst state of crisis for Japan since the end of WWII.
Then again if we'speaking about hardcore otaku, who knows what is happening in their head.
I'm wondering if foreign otaku mass-preordering this episode would be a good display of support for japans current situation? (supporting the Japanese economy...)
Well, lucky this anime was shown--anybody still remember Full Metal Panic being postponed its debut because of 9/11?
Damn that earthquake for striking Japan,
why the hell didn't it strike the Sahara Desert?
where no one lives or cares
There are many people and cities in the Sahara Desert. A person is a person, and the value of a single life is immeasurable.
I don't see the point of this map pop-up. There's virtually no person in Japan who doesn't know about the disaster. People who are watching this program certainly do so because they want to distract themselves from all the pain.
It's a real time tsunami warning. With frequent aftershock, it's a very very real threat.
Yeah well, people who find themselves watching anime in Japan will probably not live too close to the affected areas.
Nice try, 10:03.
what they know is the earthquake. While the was broadcasted is tsunami warning caused by the earthquake
Wait did this air during the earthquake or before? Some how this is too god to be coincidence. Are the producers of this show espers?!?
typo: too god-like*
The gods must be laughing their asses off.
That looks more like tidal bore or storm surge rather than tsunami.
The title screenshot is very... well picked...
The .gif made me laugh.
duno ...
Japanese people are known to be fighters facing adversity.
Nothing can stop anime, even earthquakes.
Oh No! Tsunami warnings over Ochinko?
I really hope they didn't detract from any of the major plot points in the show.
But in all honesty... I do not understand the point of putting that warning on anything. If you are watching anime during it... it's pretty clear that you don't care about it.
Irony much? I can't stop laughing!
Oh, I'm sure there's people out there who felt a tsunami go over their keyboards after this episode.
This episode has amazing timing.
I'm suprised they aired that episode at all. I suppose politicians have their hands full of something actually important for once.
Airing an episode with similarities to recent events is one thing, but doing so with a reminder of said events in the corner...
Well, I guess replacing it with a Nice Boat episode might have been even worse in this case.
It's either fate or a huge coincidence. Epic.
I know they remove episodes if someone's murdered with an ax and such if there's similarities to a recent real world event, but it does bring up the fact that a tsunami is a natural disaster. It has no villainy to it and doesn't attack anyone personally. So even if lives are lost in such an event, really I don't see this being accidental bad taste at all. It may make some people uncomfortable if they have lost loved ones, definitely. But it's not like anyone can say "Children will see this and think tsunami are fun and trivial" or something ridiculous like that. In a strange way, seeing characters live through a tsunami may be a psychological benefit.
Hey It reminded me of an episode from the US series,The Lone Gunmen,an X-files spin-off,where the pilot episode predict the 9/11 attack months before it happened.
@HouseLife
Although I don't mind broadcasts of similar events, I don't see where your logic is coming from.
The reason why people don't air episodes with similar contents is out of respect for those who have witnessed the said event, because it could trigger traumatic feelings. In what way is this different from something that is under control by people?
i can't understand ur way of thinking. For victim who survive from the disaster it brings back the trauma to watch this (even coincidentally).
@Anon 10:07
That's exactly my point... HouseLife was defending the fact that tsunami isn't the same as a murder because a tsunami is natural. But that isn't the point is it?
Even though it's ridiculous, I can see Ishihara making that connection. No, wait... especially because it's ridiculous.
And if anyone wasn't clear, there wasn't a tsunami in the episode. It was a moment when the boys were picturing what the cosplay princess was telling them about a "ruler of destruction".
The notion about "respect" is probably wrong. People are not that altruistic.
I'm sorry, but I think they could have at least stopped the broadcast for a week or something. It's not about whether it's right or wrong or need to be banned, but the timing is just wrong.
Like how they delayed the release of Metal Gear Solid 2 during the 9/11 attacks' aftermath.
I just don't feel 'right' in watching anime poke fun about tsunami like that right when something real is happening. Give me a week or two and it would be perfectly fine.
Even for broadcasts, I wonder how they aren't accounting for potentially millions of customers without power or brownouts?
Believe it or not, but people need some distraction when they are faced with continuous pain.
Canceling broadcasts would be feasible for a short time but that's it.
I'm not saying things should be banned or it's morally wrong. I just think it's a sensitive time plus all the potential customers in the viewing audience aren't there since there's millions in brown/black outs. There's a whole bevy of issues economy-wise there too.
Just delaying them a little bit isn't really making some statement that censorship is right or anything. And sorry, Houselife, but I can't take any joke about catastrophes as something funny. Especially since currently going, I've lived through too many of them. And my heart is breaking for my distant relatives my family has in many of those regions and even if something like their property being damaged, it just sucks to hear the kind of trials and tribulations they've gone through. That's kind of why I won't be against some kind of delay. I'd rather see people try to recover a bit, maybe get those blackouts in order and be eased into living again.
I agree, however in reality, is it any better two weeks from now when we see the death tole hit over 1000 and people have realization of what level of destruction has hit them? No, no matter what it'll rub certain people the wrong way based on their circumstances.
If they are offended because they don't understand that time continues moving forward, and this was created long before this happened and isn't an intentional cosmic joke, then that is their own issue in believing the world's out to get them. It's an understandable reaction if they have devastation in their lives, but in the end, those people are locked in their own minds right now, dealing with tragedy. They lack perspective in that state, and that shouldn't cause problems for everyone else because they saw a show. From what I observe, it wasn't even a big part of the show, but a passing gag unrelated to anything else. I could be wrong on that point, however.
Either way, people who live through and must deal with tragedy will always have my sympathy and support, but they will not get special treatment from me when they start blaming things and seeking illogical vengeance against their circumstances such as complaining about an animated tsunami joke after a tragic event. I am one of the people after 9/11 who saw the photoshop of Godzilla attacking the burning world trade center and laughed my ass off. Why? Because it was funny.
Agreed, Shippoyasha, but again, a TV broadcast will do nothing for or against them in that situation. It's not out of disrespect that it was shown, so by that logic, it's not disrespectful to show either. It's merely what it was, no more, no less.
Of course it doesn't matter, because being offended is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure there are some over there who have/will take offense to it being shown and there'll be some kind of apology.
Well gee, if it offends you, turn off the god damn television. There is no fucking reason to ruin it for others just because you don't like it, for whatever reason that may be. However, it is apparently easier to bitch and moan and get stuff banned and/or censored than it is to just ignore stuff that doesn't suit your tastes.
they pulled an ep of pokemon due to earthquakes once b4. idk wut help but if need be i can search and provide a source
i see and understand exactly wut you mean my friend
"Episode 377: Shaking Island Battle! Barboach VS Whiscash!! Reason for Banning:
The most recent episode has not been aired anywhere in the world, not even Japan. It was originally postponed due to massive earthquakes in the area and since it features Whiscash making Earthquakes it would have been bad taste. However this episode was scheduled for a further Japanese showing but didn't air. Now it has come to the US Airing and it again has been skipped"
http://www.serebii.net/anime/banned.shtml
thats my source
Whether it'd be pulled or not is not necessarily what I was talking about, just whether this could be considered bad taste. Chances are they're working on much more important things than people being offended right now. And if they tried to do something stupid like pull programming in case of offense now, people would lose money and fiscal issues they don't need would arise.
But then, I always overestimate humanity's ability not to let things slide in favor of a good laugh. I anticipate there'll be a backlash article in a day or so because of people who want to blame something.
Pokemon I can sort of understand pulling an episode if kids could be nervous about an earthquake in their area. But it's still a weak-minded thing to do.
I vote for some trainee blunder which allowed this to air. I mean, they canceled one piece twice because of a single tsunami. Thank God they aren't common.
to add to that, if someone had just lost someone in the tsunami, i doubt they'd be watching anime
Thanks doc Freeman. I never understood why they even banned some of those eps in the past or what this 'bad taste' is that you describe. No sarcasm intended.