Hatsune Miku fans are disgusted with Miku’s latest live concert, bitterly complaining of brazen exploitation unworthy of the virtual diva’s formerly glorious live legacy.
The complaints centre on the lacklustre showing in the recent “Hatsune Miku Live Party 2011 – 39’s Live in Tokyo” – Miku fans air their grievances:
“Somebody nobody’s heard of sung for the first 30 minutes. The display wasn’t transparent, just a normal TV. Miku left after 30 minutes, keeping us waiting for another 30…”
“Miku and Rin’s hearts weren’t in it at all. It was like they were just dubbing a song over a video. Last year was so good. What happened?”
“A 30 minute break – are they making fun of us?”
“What is this shit?”
“I appreciate a transparent screen costs money. Maybe it was an unavoidable compromise.
But why the half hour intermission? This is just character exploitation.”
“What is up with having some nobody on for 30 minutes? They just exploiting the chance for some exposure?”
“What’s the problem, exactly?”
“Miku Party last year: transparent screen, Sega’s game staff really gave it their all and it was a sensation.
Then they released the recording on BD/DVD, but Sega put no effort into it and fans were annoyed. Sega dropped involvement.
This year, it was handled by 5pb.
They had no transparent screen. The modelling was worse than last year. The camera work was bad, and in a 1 hour performance they had a 30 minute intermission of looping commercials. They squandered all the effort Sega put in last year.
The fans are enraged < we are here.”
“I see, they expected Sega quality and got some shoddy 5pb crap instead. Nice work exploiting those idiots.”
“Did all that tech belong to Sega then?”
“It seems if Sega isn’t handling it, it’s no good.”
“What 5pb did this year:
They raised the price.
Somebody nobody cares about sung for the first 30 minutes.
The transparent screen disappeared.
The camera work was no good.
They aired endless commercials during a 30 minute intermission.”
“A Sega employee tweeted this last Saturday:
‘There’s no love. If there’s no love it’s no good. If you’re not moved yourself, you can’t hope to move other people.
We’re not just making CG. I think we’re trying to put soul into CG, that’s what makes it moving. It doesn’t seem many of the people concerned appreciate this.’
This was probably a message to 5pb. Sega have my sympathies.”
“I want to cry.”
The event last year, which spawned a media sensation:
Footage of the most recent event (watched by 160,000 people on NicoNico Douga) is not yet easy to come by as online viewing was pay-per-view only and 5pb likely fancies it can hawk the recording on disc – shots of the rehearsals are however available:
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Damn you 5pb. Why must you ruin a Vocaloid concert? :(
Who the fuck is 5pb and, if this effort is all they can produce, is there any reason to even ever find out who 5pb is?
I guess if Miku is not supported by Sega, then there is no point in caring when and where she appears.
Pity, this could well massively back fire, Miku is currently massively popular, but, this is NOT going to be without cost.
I feel sorry for the suckers err I mean dedicated fans that seriously thought this farce pretending to be a concert was a good idea.
I see a great lack of interest in this event resulting. I can't picture anyone spending any time or energy getting a download that was never worth watching to begin with.
5pb put out pretty good stuff, but apparently they cannot handle something like this...
Google Chaos;Head, 11Eyes and Steins;Gate. They're involved in manufacturing these games.
Then again, how on earth could a company which's specialised in VN ended up in doing a virtual concert..?
why would a company that isn't involved in Vocaloid would do that
>"This is just character exploitation.”
they never noticed that before?
they just liked it before
before it was a good exploitation
not every single thing is exploitation. People want things, other people deliver the things. For free? No, for money of course.
Wow way to ruin 3/7 you cheap fucks.
It's 3/9, dude... 3 effin' 9... which got horribly ruined...
I'm neither a concert goer and nor a Miku fan, but I'm sure I'd be pissed if I'd go on a concert and they'd pull that off.
"and in a 1 hour performance they had a 30 minute intermission of looping commercials."
One hour performance only, 30 minutes of commercials and 30 minutes of "some nobody on for 30 minutes", did I get that right? 50% of the concert was not even the concert?
"The camera work was no good."
Camera keeps changing every 1-3sec = headache
I'm imagining a super fast miku slideshow now.
Yep, I noticed that too. I think they were trying to keep everyone from noticing the sub-par production values.
If it's not a real band or a singer, it's not a concert full stop.
True, the people playing the instruments were in fact just pieces of software represented by holographic images that looked like they did on the box they came with.
back to ya cave
You got it wrong. The person sang for some lenght of time (it wasn't 30 minutes, though, I think... she sang two songs and then ievan polkka rolled in). Then there was ~1 hour of Vocaloid music, then 30 mins break and another 1 hour.
The actual concert lenght was the same as last year. It's just that the break was 20 minutes longer and twice as boring.
Wait, it's not "nobody" it's one of the famous producer, BuzzG, the singer is Mai Aizawa, a seiyuu
Kinda sad not many vocaloid fan know about them, sure, not as famous as Livetune, Deco*27, or Supercell, but they still creat some of the finest song and some of their song is included in compilation album with other famous producer
"There’s no love. If there’s no love it’s no good. If you’re not moved yourself, you can’t hope to move other people."
This
I agree. I can understand that some people like vocaloids, but I still prefer human singers and by far.
But I don't understand wby people went to this "concert"! It's not even a concert, it's just a screen! Moreover, you already have a screen just in front of you, so what's the use of...
Uhhhhhhhh, way to miss the point...
He meant that this year's concert was soulless and that there was no effort put into it...
Besides, it IS a concert. You have real people playing real instruments. It's just the vocals that are done by software. Audience was going mad last year whenever a popular song came up and people on the instruments were enjoying themselves, too, despite having to play non-stop for two hours.
Ask people how many of them care about the musicians and more than half of them will answer "I don't care of them" ^^ And of course it is soulless since there isn't even a real singer!
What is the definition of "real" and "not real".
To became real, the singer have to..
Can eat and shit like what human do ?
Having good and bad character as human do ?
Have to be put on news everyday by paparazzi ?
Can have sex to fulfill some human desire ?
The answer is no. Vocaloids don't need those to become real. Beside, you denies the truth that you can still see them and hear them. They just have to sing the song and appear before the audience eyes that is just good enough for idol, human or not.
(I'm not English native speaker.But I want to express my opinion.)
this is trash! compared with last year! Who in the hell had the idea to ruin a Vocaloid concert?... I realy had good concept of 5pb but after this! I just hate them
Lmao, Miku fail.
This is blasphemy...
This is madness...
This is sad...too sad... OTL
this is obviously SPARTA
Not sad at all!
Sega is showing that they're still a quality company. XD
Always a silver lining. At least Sega is doing really good with their K-On license. Can't wait for K-On Houkago Live PSP2 with their amazing character dancing programs!
miku-tards
he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he
This is madness!
THIS IS MIKUPA-RTA!!!
This is Epic Fail.
OTL
This is pathetic
The CGI in the audition video looks dismal. One of the reasons I liked the first one was that it was done so well, the songs, the animation, everything.
Did they run out of money?
ah i saw the last one some time before, but there were more fans xD.. .. truly the first one looks much better o_o
Of course it looks much better.... Sega devoted themselves to make that concert a huge success i mean every people in the staff worked so hard to make it turn out like it was...
And now these 5pb shitheads... ruined it everything..
They should have made a panty shot in the animation, similar to that of Mio, then it'd be a huge success
the previous one was hosted by SEGA, this year 5pb did it.
sega should be the ones to only host it then i guess. there work never let me down b4 personally
maybe 5pb want to try it out to make it.
anyway the descent of visual quality really shock me.
Ooh my gosh... This sucos so much what a way to ruin this event... The models look so bad... And seriously that screen... So horrible:(
WHAT IS THIS?! BLASPHEMY??! HOW CAN THEY DOWNGRADE THE SHOW BY SO MUCH?! I WAS EXPECTING A HOLOGRAPHIC HIGH RESOLUTION PROJECTION THIS YEAR BUT THEY GAVE US CRAP LCD IMAGES WITH LAGGY ANIMATION!!!
it's not even LCD, that's probably a projector screen
Maybe you should get a android Miku to sing to you personally while you can fuck her anytime kind of like dopplers in Fractale. Ever heard of that show?
Now I don't feel so bad about not being able to go to this concert, though I am still on a hunt for the nendo petit summer miku that they gave out to the concert goers.
if rather prefer they don't held this concert instead of spoiling miku's concert
dammit.....
TBH, last year's performance was AMAZING! This year... not so great. It's like watching IdolMaster...
Lower. It's more like watching an MMD minus the fancy camera shots.
What performance? Watching a computer?
Really! That's just a screen..I would prefered stay on my house and the last year concert via streamming on YT...
I didn't understand the hype with Miku, until you compare last year and this year performance. Its night and day.
I viewed some clips on YouTube, and last year's show does look rather impressive. It has much higher production values than I would have expected from something like this. I saw some clips from this year's show as well, and while it seems alright, it just doesn't have the organic feel that the prior show had. In the first show, the quality of the lighting, motion capture and overall animation made them look like living 2.5D characters on-stage, while the new show doesn't establish that effect nearly as well. The substitution of the wide transparent screen with a black box didn't really help either.
Last year's show likely exceeded everyone's expectations, while this year's seems to have fallen short of them in many ways. They really should put the people from last year back in charge of it, rather than some third-rate game developer.
Oh, and who decided to put knee socks on Kagamine Len? :P
All those dumb journalists who thought Miku was a hologram will now be very confused.
wait what :D
You don't say...
Anyways, I really hoped to go to that concert, but because of short funds I couldn't make it.
The TV issue was like a slap to every miku fan as I see it.
And a 30 min break...I really wonder why!?
Sure the guys playing the music could use a break, but 30 minutes? That's overdoing it!
Nishishishi!
That is all.
/off-topic
OMG it's ruining Miku image ...
When there's no love involved .. this is the total disaster result