Schoolgirl Expelled for Teacher Sex
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Feb 5, 2011 03:28 JST
- Tags: Bizarre, Courts, Enjo Kousai, Law, Schoolgirls, Shizuoka, Teachers
A school is in trouble for expelling a schoolgirl for having sex with her teacher, and refuses to reinstate her despite being ordered by a court to do so.
The incident began at a private Shizuoka prefecture high school where an 18-year-old schoolgirl enjoyed a sexual relationship with a male teacher at the school.
She was boarding at the school and was reportedly recognised for academic excellence and had received a scholarship.
When the relationship came to the attention of the school, they promptly dismissed the teacher for his conduct. As the girl is 18 and thus an adult, no crime has been committed.
The girl continued attending school, but was expelled soon after – the school displays the usual peculiar Japanese understanding of the term “voluntary”:
“She showed no remorse, and ignored our recommendation she drop out of school voluntarily, so we expelled her.”
They then offered a “compromise” of expelling her but recognising her graduation if she pursued a course of self-study, but she refused, saying “I want to see out the end of my high-school years together with my classmates.”
The girl had intended to continue on to a technical college, but with her graduation cancelled due to expulsion she was unable to proceed.
The local district court considered her expulsion excessive, pointing out that “[permanent] expulsion should only be used when the student shows no likelihood of reform” and provisionally ruled that as it was a first offence she should have been temporarily suspended for 2 months instead.
However, the school refused to obey the court ruling and let her attend, with the principal complaining “We can’t preserve discipline if our punishments are vague… if they come out with a final verdict, we’ll go along with it.”
The school was subsequently criticised for disobeying a court, with one educational critic pointing out that “If a school won’t obey the law, they are in danger of becoming dictatorial. They should obey the ruling no matter what they think about it.”
Her father comments that “I can’t say my daughter is blameless, but she is sorry and I would like to see her graduate with her friends.”
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That's a shame. The story shows she has spunk. Too bad it's her teacher's.
teacher rapes students, nothing happens.
student has real relationship with teacher, she is expelled and teacher is fired.
fucked up if you ask me
How can a school teach its students to obey the law if it is the first to ignore it?
Nice example you're giving out, folks.
That is exactly what I was thinking. If the school wants the girl to accept their judgement regardless of what she thinks, the school should also accept the judgement of the court regardless of what they think.
This makes no sense.
It makes sense. They expect a "mere" student to obey their "suggestions" as law. Because of course they -know- what's best fo her. Even when it basically equates to trying to make an example of her, regardless of how that effects her future. And of course, if society, or the courts disagree with them, they also, know no better.
Actually your argument doesn't make any sense.
If the school accepted the court's judgement regardless of what they think, they've accepted the girl's (court) judgement. That is, to finish high school and graduate.
The only way the school can make the girl accept THEIR judgement is by ignoring the court's judgement.
It's freaking impossible for school to make the girl accept their judgement regardless of what they think while also accepting the court's judgement regardless of what the school thinks.
This is School vs Girl and the court is just the middle man who happens to support the girl.
Oh Iran.... oh wait.
You know who else disobeyed the law? Gandhi.
You know what else is a law? Ishihara's Anime/Manga ban and you know who is disobeying it? Champion Red Comics.
Are they giving out good examples?
According to laws in some countries, victims of rape get stoned or lashed to death. Should those laws by obeyed? If people ignored that law, would that be a good example for others? After all, a law is a law.
If it were a (hot) female teacher and male student, same ages, same situation, I doubt you'd give a fuck that the male got expelled. You'd probably make a joke/meme out of it.
It's all about perspective. You think Champion Red is making a good example of ignoring the ban because you like anime. Likewise, you think the school shouldn't ignore the law because it's a girl and girls are meant to be protected like princesses. In both, it depends on your bias and viewpoints. What if a picture of the girl was released and she was ugly? Would your stance still hold?
Hence contradictions and hypocrisy is born.
Your application of that logic is twisted and wrong.
Corrupt school = NOT Gandhi
Court = NOT Ishihara
Corrupt
School = Ishihara
Court = Ghandi
Fixed
Yeah, except for the bit that School Rules aren't superior to the actual Law.
And in this case, suspensions would've been more appropriate, considering the ages and the consensual nature of the relationship.
Contrast this with the teacher who was suspended without pay for 2 months for beating up a student, while this guy had relations with a girl old enough for him to marry.
You also have to consider the whole good vs bad law, with the whole Anime/Manga ban being a good example of bad law, considering it's overly vague, does nothing about actual kiddy porn (material about it was taken from the law) the supposed reason to implement it, has loopholes the size of an aircraft carrier (books and films aren't subjected to the same rules), and has no effect on the actual stuff that should be kept out of the hands of minors (the 18+ material).
In this case the school has overreached itself, especially in light of their handling of this case thus far. The subsequent ignoring of the court order and how the subject is being addressed also doesn't speak in their favour. Even if their aim is to keep it tied up in court until after graduation, some more humility towards the the authority of the court would've been in order.
There is another side to that coin though.
Nowadays schools are required to not only teach academic knowledge to its students but also to "teach" moral values, to make up for dysfunctional families and other such arguments.
Therefore, how can a school teach its students the responsibility to own up to their decisions if they are never faced with the consequences of their decisions?
Letting her remain in school would certainly mean, for her, there are no consequences to her wrongdoings. Now, if she was forced into that relationship it'd be a different matter.
Granted, expelling her was not the only way to make her face consequences of her decision either.
If you think a two-month suspension for a technically legal activity (assuming it was a consenting relationship), that is just a violation of school rules is 'no consequence', then what -is- one. Is expulsion the only consequence you deem appropiate? I suppose all people that dye their hair blonde should be expelled outright as well?
The teacher being dismissed is already consequence enough for her, again, assuming it's a consenting relationship.
Basically ruining her life, or at least making it immensely more difficult, by expelling her and thus ruining her career plans entirely is way too much.
"Yeah, let's teach our students morals by fucking up their lives beyond repair with our judgements. Booyah."
"just a violation of school rules"
Like I said, since schools are required to teach moral values, they must also uphold those values in practice. Teacher-student relationships always entail a moral shitstorm of varying intensity depending on the particulars of the society. So the violation also includes "breach of moral values", vague as it may seem.
"Is expulsion the only consequence you deem appropiate?..."
Certainly not. Personally I think there were better options.
"Basically ruining her life"
Firstly, I'll admit I don't know the specifics about these kind of situations in Japan, but I don't think expelled students are forbidden to join another school and continue coursing the same school year they were in before being expelled. I'll have to get back to you on that though.
Of course this is Japan, and sheer society disapproval could make other schools deny her entry to avoid involvement with a previously expelled student.
Somehow, I think if a schoolgirl were to appear on TV shedding a few tears society would bend their knees anyhow. She'd probably be allowed to join any school she wanted too.
Please tell me a single bad thing about having a consenting relationship with a teacher? She's a woman, he's a man. To interfere with them is to violate the most basic law of nature, and that is far above the laws of man.
If it is immoral, then please, by all means, explain me, rationally and logically, what is bad in THAT kind of immorality?
Let me start by saying this is not my personal opinion, and although I recognize there are valid points to forbid Teacher-Student relationships, I'll be merely citing general objections to it.
1. "Please tell me a single bad thing about having a consenting relationship with a teacher?"
I believe we had a very interesting discussion about this on a previous article some time ago, and if memory serves me well, the agreed main objection to these relationships seems to be the "conflict of interests" it generates.
The teacher might grade that student arbitrarily. That student might expect the teacher to do so. Others might think the teacher grades arbitrarily and attempt to get the same treatment. There are many other polemic situations but I think these illustrate where the conflict of interests lie.
2. "If it is immoral..."
It depends on the society in which the situation occurs to decide whether it is immoral or not.
However, it seems to me that the main point of argument is that a teacher exerts much too influence on the mental development of the students, so there is always fear that the teacher might have "deceived" that student into a romantic relationship.
Surprisingly enough the teacher was dismissed for inappropriate behavior. Most japanese teachers always get a free pass. The expulsion of the girl was a bit over the top though.
Agreed.
In the most western countries she can just go to another school or get her GED etc and still go on to be a success.
But in Japan not finishing high school can be very damaging to one's future.
As a teacher in Japan you only get a free pass if you teach middle school or elementary. After all, "it can't be helped".
It looks like it. It seems hat according to Japan, if you fuck a 12 year old it just couldn't be helped but if you go with an 18 year old you are a sick bastard.
I love their manga/anime but they really are crazy people.
Because she wasn't a little girl.
Indeed, at first I was all "oh, cool, the punishment does actually make some sense", and then I saw the "voluntary" bit and them actually ignoring the courts and I lol'd.
On the reverse hand, it's nice to see a school scandal with Japanese schoolgirls that apparently was consensual adults rather than teacher rape.
Aaaaactually, she's still underage in Japanese understanding. Age of consent is a different matter, though.
yea, she still cant drink
then again, with japanese drinking stamina, they probably shouldnt be allowed to drink at all...
lol
my parents would already be in jail if someone would give a fuck about the age you are allowed to drink :rolleyes:
although a drinking contest with a japanese could be entertaining :D (minimum i can drink at one night: a bottle of vodka/rum)
It's an private school.
In a public one nothing would had happen to the teacher.
Apparently you need to be charged with rape or sexual harrassment to at least still keep your jobs. Judging by past articles, all others get transferred at best. lol
Maybe because he didn't teach english
I agree about the expulsion of the girl. Hell, if this had been done in the United States, the teacher would be in prison right now and the girl would be waited on hand-and-foot by our school system because she was 'abused'.
Japan is silly, but so is the United States in that case I outlined.
Poor Girl.
Rules are rules. They are made by people, and the enforcers need to enforce them with a grain of salt:
Not all situations can nor should be done so.
This one shouldn't because of the pile of negative consequences heaped upon the girl. Even if it was exposed so late, they could have used other punishments on the girl. She obviously had the brains and willpower from the scholarships. Perhaps they had the willpower to see the entire relationship go through as adults instead of elementary kids with cougars.
In Japan those rules are there to protect the school. Elsewhere they are there to protect the students. Weird.
Poor girl... Everyone does it, only she got caught...
Poor girl that got a teacher fired. You can tell she's smart by that alone, but she didn't expect to get expelled herself, so she went to court to fix that up.
got caught?
it is likely, but i cant see the article stating she wasnt allosed to
the teacher almost certainly wasnt and shouldnt, but what the hell?
apparently she should have said he raped her and she would be free to go, while the teacher probably would still have his job as well cos japanese schools just dont admit rape by their staff...
Anonymous 03:55 05/02/2011 # !
yes, rules are rules. the court rules come before a school rules -_-"
Maybe I should become a teacher.
the principal must be jealous that's why he expelled her (-_-;)
lol yeah :) ((( going searching for the expelled girl lol )))
just make sure it will remain a secret ;D
The part that says the principal is a complete moron: "We can’t preserve discipline if our punishments are vague"? I dunno, 2 months temporary suspension sounds pretty solid and well-defined to me. Besides, since when does a principal have the power to ignore a court order? Sounds to me like he's the one that should be losing his job...
I donno man.
In a hindsight, I'm starting to think that she kinda deserved it, in a sense that she's too stupid to keep her relationship concealed until she graduates, which isn't so far away.
This does remind me of GTO though. Onizuka enrolled as a teacher, mostly, because he dreamt of having a 14-year old wife when he's 40. Fucking pedo he is, haha!
GTO is 23 and he dreamt of having a a 20 sth y o girl when being 40
Sometimes, I wonder if I'm in the right line of work...
schoolgirls and lolis. Worst-case scenario, you get a slap on the hand... with a wadful of severance money
Know what would be lovely? Teacher and student hand-in-hand setting the principal's house ablaze...
Just kidding of course, but that dude is seriously an asshole.
Private teaching, at its best.
school going against the court? Sounds like an episode of GTO!
All this stupid shit is happening despite the girl being fucking 18 AND the court ordering the school to chill the fuck out?
Godamnit, she's already 18 and about to graduate. Those teachers are trying to hard to keep their school moral standard as perfect as possible.
This is Japan...so I'm not surprised whatsoever...but they've gone way over the top in recent years.
“She showed no remorse, and ignored our recommendation she drop out of school voluntarily, so we expelled her.”
you say she "voluntarily" drop out of school yet you expelled her instead?
what the fuck is wrong in japan. i think the kind of punishment is too extreme especially for a school refusing to follow the court's order. talk about saving the face of the school and not caring what the next generation should be.
Why do people overreact so much?
A study found out that 1/3 of female students will have sex with a teacher at some point of their lives.
They never told me that when we had career counseling :(
Another study has found that 88.2% of statistics are made up on the spot.
"A study found out that 1/3 of female students will have sex with a teacher at some point of their lives."[citation needed]