Swedish courts have upheld the child pornography conviction of a manga fan for possessing loli imagery on his computer, ruling that deviant art and imagination is as much a crime as actual child abuse.
The 27-year-old manga translator was previously charged with possessing child pornography based on loli pictures police found on his PC after raiding his home.
He was convicted for possessing 51 images, none of which featured actual children, and was subsequently fined.
He appealed the decision, but the court rejected his arguments that entirely fictional 2D material could not constitute child pornography.
The court did however decide that only 39 of the images constituted “child pornography,” and reduced his fine accordingly, from 26,000 krona to 5,600 krona ($850).
Sweden’s feminist-conceived sex crime laws are some of the harshest in the developed world, with definitions of rape and sexual harassment bordering on misandry, and anti-prostitution laws which criminalise buying sex whilst making selling sex perfectly legal.
This was recently highlighted in the case of Wikileaks honcho Julian Assange, charged with rape for allegedly not using a condom in a consensual sexual encounter.
In spite of these laws, crime rates in Sweden continue to increase, being some of the highest in Europe (although it has been noted that almost half of all crime in Sweden is committed by immigrants or their offspring).
Even with all these real crimes going on, Swedish authorities apparently feel the need to create additional fictional crimes and victims – although at least they are consistent in this regard.
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It's simple, just add furry ears and tails to every loli, ala Horo. I bet the court will have to undergo a nightmare before they decide whether it's child or animal abuse
furry are included in the pictures already. They gave the court some lulz, thats it.
Wait, do you think they only jailed this guy for furry?
As long as the animal doesn't take harm sex with it is fully legal in Sweden, so if you're really lucky it might help.
technically, Horo ホロたん is hundreds of years old... but even that doesn't matter. its a godamned picture of a fictional character, explain to me how a fictional character is an actual human child? if we start convicting people with fictional works, I demand they go through with it and convict every person who has written any fiction book, drawn any pictures, and/or created any movies containing violence and rape, because that is the equivalent. if they dont convict for those "offenses" then the court system is a sham and the one who wrote the law along with the prosecution are hypocrites.
now if it was porn pics of ACTUAL kids, convict away, since its become NON-FICTION at that point.
Just wait till I develop Skynet.
It should be added the majority of the Swedish population find the charges laughable and when they showed the images in court, there was a burst of laughter and ridicule at the charges. I'm Swedish btw ^^
Well, if the law has so little support, why don't you go and get it repealed?
Silly people, thinking that democracy exists.
wow. this is one of those rare times i'm happy that i live in finland since loli hentai is legal here.
for now anyways...
if i'd live in sweden and these guys get me, there would go my 212GB stash of pictures, manga & eroge. imagine what fine i would get there.
Beware Finlands green party and whole right wing government (yes, greens are a part of it!!!!)if they should lose their ignorance of otaku culture. But they are overly corrupted, so they can be paid to be inactive.
"Democracy" is said to exist somewhere. I wonder...
I can't even comment properly on such BS such as this...
First they say 1 thing in 1 place comparing the 2 & in another place they decide to say quite the opposite...
Loli Manga bet not go extinct because of shit like this...
Seems the country i live in is going further down the drain than i thought possible -_-, sad.
well then, come to America! Where everything always gets bet... wait, what am I saying...
*dies*
In Poland you go to jail for possession of loli manga, so a mere fine is not that bad. Hell, you can go to jail even for drawing a shitty picture of a child with nipples... What is more even approbation of pedophilia is punishable by law.
References for people from Poland:
art. 200b. KK i art. 202 § 4 i § 4b. KK
Poor Sweden.. Well, the rules will be broken soon enough, curse those Sweden’s feminist-conceived sex crime laws
your country is not the only one with such harsh interpretation of anti child porn laws.
the number of published cases is relatively low, although i know of several cases where police (yes, police, not prosecution) have threatened legal action against manga stores and individuals if they do not hide their stash away and never let it be seen again.
child abuse is such a taboo topic that nobody wants to stand up against conservative politicians and judges. losing means being ostracised as a paedophile, and even if you had a chance to win, there could be harsh consequences.
it's a sad, sad world.
when cops come for me, i will go down in burning flames defending my "rights" and not defending the rights of the fictional.
and when i say flames, i mean think shuttle launch big.
Im baffled!
I'v never thought i'd see societies reversing back to something that would only be seen in the worst history can teach or semi-fictional works such as the movie 1984 where this court literally found a person guilty what can, is and was described in the movie as a thought crime!
That court judge(s) are a disgrace to that judicial institution and the society they legaly represent and work for, justice without bias, pre-conception and basic philosophic understanding.
It seems that fear of the internets (and the freedoms it provites) is scaring most countries (via a paranoid and ignorant public) into becoming overly conservative. The result: Being locked up or fined for a damn drawing. Sad indeed.
And my country is it's nieghbor.
It's the hate train, guys! I told you about the hate train!
welcome to sweden, we rape women physically and men mentally, enjoy your stay
lol sad the next one u.u.. looks like the higher the laws the higher the crime rates ?
lol i bet here it started : http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/06/11/queen-of-sweden-tells-japan-to-ban-loli/
Thats it, im leaving this stupid Sweden when i get older <_<
You can always come to the US....Oh, Wait a minute:)
There's no more safe place, even Japan is now included. The only secured space is your own bedroom.
Even thats not safe these days. They'll just break into your room and look in on your computer.
@01:10
They can't just break into your room and look on your computer...
They would need a warrant to search your computer if you didn't agree to let them search and even then they would need some type of "evidence" to be able to get that warrant.
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Drawings ARE NOT children and therefore DO NOT and CANNOT constituted “child pornography" no matter how young it looks!
@02:19
Except when they do. Even in the US, courts are getting closer and closer to recognizing drawings as child pornography. They're already recognized in several cases where they were found alongside real child pornography. It's a slippery slope from there.
im curious, combat butler hyate CAN be considered loli, does that constitute as child pornography?
if so
*deletes*
Come to any country of Latin America, loli is not crime, almost none copyright laws and you do 13 years old with just their approval (no parents need).
i'm acctually pretty sure it's illegal
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1466A.html
With all due respect to the poster who said "Courts are getting closer and closer to declaring drawn porn child pornography even in the United States!"... NOOOOoOO, THEY AREN'T!
The fact is that the ONLY laws they have gotten people under for loli are the obscenity laws (which most of them are unconstitutional on their face, no matter how the Supreme Court has ruled in the past, because some VERY salient arguments have never been brought up) or because the people in question were registered sex offenders who weren't supposed to be looking at pornography period (on this subject, talk about a way to MAKE people turn to real life children for sexual gratification!)!
Guys, if obscenity can get you for loli then it's the same as being an anti-loli law. It's just flexible in that it can also get you for Legend of the Overfiend or Super Hornio Brothers too if they like.
Lol a fucking moron tries to save the day. (yeah you)
There won't be any "revolution"
You think people are going to go out on the street protesting "we want to watch lolis" ?
You can't fight the system because it automatically labels you a pedophile by the media.
How about a warrant to check your isp logs from your providers?
lol @ nerds freaking out, you guys seriously have no legal knowlage what so ever lolicon manga is protected by the US constitution Bush tried to get it banned but the law was deemed unconstitutional furthermore sweeden sucks just wait in 10 years the people will be so fed up there will a revolution or something mass deportation etc etc
This was recently highlighted in the case of Wikileaks honcho Julian Assange, charged with rape for allegedly not using a condom in a consensual sexual encounter.
Yea...things like this are why Sweden's politicians need to grow a pair. That's just pathetic.
Yes, that is MAJORLY pathetic. With all due respect to these people, if a condom breaks (that is actually the issue in the Assange case) it is NOT sex by surprise, and you cannot always tell that a condom has broken, coming from my friends who actually use them.
In Sweden, feminist rape YOU!
they're only doing it just so they have another excuse to put more people in jail
politician one:
it seems our number of ethnic Swedish criminals are decreasing....
politician two:
I KNOW! let's make it illegal to have prons of fictional 2D characters?
Politician one:
sounds like a plan!
me: *facepalm*
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner. The fact is that pedosexuality/pedophilia is just being used as a 'boogie man' for society. I hate to tell people, but most pedosexuals ASK the children who they 'molest' (a loaded, make believe term made up by feminists) if they can touch them sexually, or touch them sexually and then ask them "Can I touch you like that again?"
Personally, when I was a child with girls, I did that latter thing quite a bit, and the girls in question NEVER called it 'molesting' unless after I asked them and they said "NO!" (never came up) I did it again!
Since I didn't do the former, that was the girl's in question telling me that is when I would have done something wrong.
We need to stop giving these 'abuse victims' in real life an out! They could EASILY threaten to tell their parents in order to get a person to leave them alone sexually, and most pedosexuals would.
lol propoganda
Jeez... when can we stop putting loli manga and child pornography as the same category???
If the loli character is 18 or over it's illegal?
@ anon 8:30
it is in Australia (or so I heard)
You can always come to Holland. (WE HAS LEGAL WEED.)
@ Daphne
I thought Holland's official name was Netherlands?
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It's called The Netherlands.
We have 'the' infront of it because we feel we need to be more important due to the size of our puny little country. ^^
And I think loli hentai is legal here. I haven't heard of cases of someone being fined or anything because of it... If so, I'm fucked! D:
This world is going down the drain.
Isn't it also true that the countries that actually allow loli hentai have the lowest crime rates on actual child abuse and pornography possession?
Not too sure about that though.
Zandryu: go live next to Ishihara...or in Poland.
Here in Latin America, REAL lolis attacks you!!!
and in Africa there are Loli warlords!
Happily we have NO laws, after all: stupid laws are stupid.
just nuke sweden
They should've been exterminated by the Nazis in WWII -_-
Have you lost in ice hockey or soccer to then? Finland or England?