Sweden: “Loli Manga is Child Pornography”

CP laws should be changed from "possesion is illegal and you are a abad person" to "by having pictures of a child being abused you are intentionally keeping evidence of a crime from the police, you are an accomplice to this crime"

with loli no crime is happening, plus if the laws changed that way then the punishments for real CP could be more serious, and teens texting nude pics to each other wouldnt be getting labeled as pedophiles anymore.

And I would not want to be killed, would not want my property to be stolen etc, however, all those laws are considered and made so that they are more logical. You need to have evidence to put a thief or murderer behind bars and a mere accusation, if the person is later acquitted does not mean that he is a thief/murderer/etc. There are also laws that lessen the punishment if the death was an accident (someone who runs a person over in his car because he did not see him gets a lesser punishment than someone who intentionally runs the person over (or just stabs/shoots/etc him dead).

OTOH, with child pornography, a mere accusation is enough to ruin somebody. If you have a picture of a naked kid in your computer, even if it is in the browser cache after you visited 4chan, you will be ruined and will be punished (by law) the same way as if you intentionally downloaded it.

Also, while criminalizing possession of a picture is stupid, it can be kind-of rationalized by saying that if there was no demand (nobody wanted to look at the pictures) there would be no supply (nobody would abuse the children to produce the pictures) either. However, as no children are harmed in producing a painting (no matter how realistic) or a 3D rendering or a kid, possession, distribution and producing should not be criminal (well, as long as you do not violate copyright). It is criminal only because some people do not like it.

@ 18:39
Did I say that people should allow the law to get out of hand because of a fear? No I did not. I agree with you that going crazy and and saying any picture with a drawn child is just their ignorance and emotion taking charge.

And as I stated before, the countries allow drugs to be used freely, spend their attention on the drug lords, and provide help for those who want help does dramatically lead to much lower rates of drug use. While countries that make is stricter like Australia and Sweden ironically has higher rates.

But (as I clearly did not explain correctly earlier), its not the same situation. I doubt there is some pedophile lord trading child pornography over there. IF they treated it the same way, then the people would get emotional just like i did and would not want it lessed as such. (and get labeled as moralfags by the internet)

IF they want to drop the crime rate, they have to go at it appropriate to the situation. If they offer help or at least private consolation to the people who want help that would surely lower the crime rate. If they say child pornography is legal to do, then it will do the opposite as I stated earlier.

i don't know the details on the subject over there, but it obviously is not an easy subject to debate. You can't simply say to lessen the law by only basing it on how low this country has their rates with drugs.

Even us MoralFags can be reasonable.

No, it shouldn't, Anonymous 02:49. The REAL thing that should be done is to legalize child pornography, having sex with children, etc. and SIMPLY FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE WHO PHYSICALLY FORCE CHILDREN INTO SEX!

To be blunt, most relationships between adults and children ARE NOT RAPE (speaking as someone who had sex with adults as a child and liked it, and WOULD have sex with children today if it was legal!).

They are just as much consensual encounters as those between two 40 year olds.

Pedosexuality is being used as the new 'boogie man' now that homosexuality has been declared legal by most countries around the world.

Once pedosexuality is accepted... they will look for something else to marginalize to distract people's attention away from the problems that government and powermongers in the world are causing.

Anon 13:07...new boogie man...wise words you are writing. But powermongers of the world want to use violence to keep their positions, because it is easier to terrorize people to resurrect their free minds with rough violence & sick laws than sexuality.
So ppl are educated to praise violence and to fear that kind of sexuality they do not have experience of, or even think calmly and rationally about it.

My sexual preference is big, voluptuous 25-50 year old women with big, yet firm boobs topped by large areola and long stiffening nipples and great pussy with large long lipped labias.

I like cute lolis in anime & manga as funny persons, though, like Chiyo-chan, Sasami, Nagi Sanzenin etc. .

Why no 24/51 ero?