“No Battery Changing for PSP2 Because of Pirates”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Jan 28, 2011 11:22 JST
- Tags: Comparison, Copyright, DS, Hacking, Nintendo, PSP, Sony, Technology
The batteries of Sony’s newly announced “NGP” cannot be changed, purportedly in an effort to stymy pirates who previously used the battery to hack the original PSP models.
The unit is as stylishly designed as it is sealed tight:
One method of hacking the copy protection on the original PSP to enable piracy involved the use of specially modified batteries (the batteries contain additional circuitry as well as the actual battery) – the sealed battery of the NGP is suspected to be part of an effort to make such hardware hacks more difficult.
The combination of a”4-5 hour” battery life and the inability to change the batteries seems unlikely to be well received – and if the 3DS is any guide, a recharge time of some hours can be expected, making the device rather less portable than might be hoped.
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wow.what a genius invention.just like iphone
question: is it rechargeable?
and why 4-5 hours?
don't they know that a game a day keeps the crime away~
I'm gonna go ahead and assume you meant eroge a day instead, but of course its rechargeable(?)
I thought the "eroge prevents crime" argument was banned by the Strike Witches creator?
^ And rightfully so. Since it's stupid and counterproductive, let alone false.
I want my 'load' to be rechargeable fast too...
I think it will be *eroge-able* though localized version NGP games might be hard to find, better off importing your eroge titles.
In the sense that most people mean it, it's as false as anything could be; but in a certain light, it's very true.
If you make it illegal, the people who want/have it have to go underground to get/keep it, which means they're breaking the law.
So TECHNICALLY, making it illegal WILL mean for crimes and criminals; much as the situation is with marijuana or over-strict gun control in the States.
Isn't the purpose of portable gaming mainly for when you are in transit or waiting for something? Unless you're over a flight across the pacific or the atlantic, why the fuck would you worry so much about only 4-5 hours of game time? Don't tell me there's no outlet in your house =_=
Strict gun control in the States.
I lol'd.
Nah I don't know. Here's one thing.
I disliked chargeable batteries for the current portable machines because, well. It didn't support "portability" so well when it came to batteries. If there are no socket, or you forgot your charger, you're screwed. You canæt buy a new battery.
But not allowing to charge as well is not really fun. Why can't we just have both? :V
I just don't get my friend Sony at times, it can do the downright stupidest things for no really good reason & it is sad, this killed a bit of the PSP2's hype, but will not hinder it's sales too much if at all...
Sounds Like an Old Ipod welded in battery they should have advertised it better
Runs cold or something ^^
No, it's not rechargable. Every five hours you needta buy a new one. ^^
"question: is it rechargeable?"
What?
Also 4-5 hours is pretty adequate. Yea surely it will be better if it had a longer duration but being serious... 4-5 hours of straight gaming outside, why the hell did you even go outside in the first place?
Even with the short ass battery life of my PSP I still find it adequate enough for me to reach an outlet to recharge.
I go through a total of 3 hours of travel a day, from home to work and back. Sometimes more, depending on sidetrips I might do since I don't always go straight back home. Considering that, 4-5 hours wouldn't always be enough. I have no doubts that there's thousands out there who do even more travelling than I do, and I'm just talking regular daily schedules, not actually leaving the country for tourism.
I have no such problems right now with my DSi XL, of course. This baby can easily last over 12 hours, just as long as I don't push the brightness settings too much (which I don't need to, since I can play just fine on the second lowest brightness level).
This is bullshit. Later PSP-2000 and PSP-3000 never had their batteries hacked... Only PSP-1000 and early PSP-2000. Make better excuses Sony.
I don't think 4-5 hours is terribly bad for a handheld gaming device, but it's certainly not as convenient as the 10 to 20 hours offered by the DS Lite. I suppose the 3DS probably won't be significantly better, but we'll have to see the real-world battery life, rather than these potentially conservative estimates.
More worth noting is what will happen when the battery starts to lose its capacity after a few years. If its not replaceable, you might be stuck with a couple hours of charge, and eventually won't be able to use it away from a power source. I do see what appears to be screw holes on the back though, so I'm not totally buying that it's "sealed tight". Most likely, you'll just have to dissect it to get to the battery, unless they have it soldered to the motherboard or something.
By the way, are these photos supposed to show the "PS3 level graphics" they were talking about? They really don't look much different from the 3DS, except not in 3D. :|
There is nothing wrong with the Battery Life but is something wrong with the Battery being sealed inside the system, preventing it from being much use for too long after you get it or if something goes wrong...
Sorry no, it's NOT rechargeable. Once the initial battery life runs out, you throw the whole thing away and buy a new PSP2.
Hoisted by your own petard Sony.
Why did your PSP battery have additional circuitry in the first place?
Why not just a +ve and a -ve like you know a batter?
Eh?
Eh?
Ha Har!
the additional circuitry = microchip + some memory to hold the charge state, number of cycles, whatever. It could be reprogrammed with a special code that was leaked. Later models probably can do it too but need a different key.
"question: is it rechargeable?"
quite possibly the dumbest question amongst the noobs of the world, and that's saying a lot.
Never heard of sarcasm? Idiot
They should take a lesson from old consoles and just go back to standard AA batteries.
But those were heavier than bricks.
LOLZ.... That a good one. Never thought you have weak arms considering the number of eroge one sankaku member plays...
In contrast, it's like a console device: N-Gamecube, PS3, etc....
Yeah, that way I can carry as many charges as needed. An individual set of my favorite NiMH batteries may not last as long as the built-in lithium ion type, but at least I can take several sets and change them as needed. Also, I'd suggest AAA.
Incidentally, if you have Wii, you should be using nothing other than NiMH.
Now, a lot of you are using the "charging packs" with the nifty holder that can charge them just by setting them in that holder, but almost ALL of those are just NiMH wrapped in plastic to disguise the fact you can get the same thing in walmart's camera section for a lot less.
But they got money selling batterypacks in first psp
Well, in Apple's case, they have a good reason for making the iPhone battery non-user-replaceable. They want you to buy a new iPhone when the battery finally craps out. It's a proven money-making tactic that has paid off every time they come out with a new "advance" in their hardware design, or to a more gradual extent, every time they come out with a new OS.
hello jobs, what are you doing at sony? come here kitty, go back to apple... ya thats a good kitty. >_> man, my ass your pirates. If they want to pirated they will do it either. -.- don't damage your fans because of the bad man. where are we? at the military?
Oh god, please shut up.
LOL it's not the pirates fault Sony put one of their service devices in every single PSP that exists. I guess it's also now the hackers and pirates fault that they fail at cryptographic algorithms huh?
This is really a problem for me. As you probably know, batteries tend to shrink in capacity over time even with proper use. In a year, if you'll play often, you'll probably have 2-3 hours of fully charged battery, and it will continue to shrink. I'll obviously will want to buy a new battery.
Perhaps they could be changed in a certefied service centers?
4-5 hours of battery life plus the fact you can't change the battery itself, I guess Sony should provide the buyers with a backpack loaded with a car battery+inverter to serve as a mobile charger.
Flop on the making.
Nice specs, tight usage. No thanks.
this wont stop us from tyring thou
Ok sony..now i DARE you to say you didnt copy everything from nintendo...i DARE YOU!!
Don't forget Apple.
and Don't forget Atari
Forget China.
China Forgot.
Lame :|
quite so
consoles are bullshit for ppl with excess money &/or lack of iq
portable consoles with no endurance and welded batteries just render me speechless
Maybe if it was oonly $100, then it'd be worth it
GameStop pre-order was for 999.99USD. WAS. They removed it but... definitely not going to be near 100$ lol.
Oh, yeah? I think the price will be near 300$. In my country PSP cost is 269$ (and I bought hacked PSP at this price).
Well, then I go and buy Nintendo 3DS =^_^=
Do they realize that this will effect people who don't pirate as well? They already said it'll only last between 4-5 hours and what if someone wants to change the battery for...oh I dunno, a better one! Or what if the battery dies out and wont hold a charge anymore?
Goddamn they do not think sometimes...
Ok, this was my post, but I didn't get to log in...
smart one sony. So does that mean we have to buy a new PSP2 when out battery dies?
All they think about is hackers, not the consumers, and that's why they are trailing behind companies like Microsoft and Nintendo.
I doubt you will have to buy a new one, but I am still not pleased with the alternative of having to send it in to Sony so they can replace it without voiding the warranty. Oh well, I don't really care since by the time my portable needs a new battery I end up getting the newer revision of it.
Dude its 4-5 hours of game time, not idling.
You end up having to open it up while following a repair FAQ on ifix use odd bits to remove screws that were designed by a dyslexic monkey just like an iphone.
That is pretty true. Stuff like IPhone comes out every 2 years, so by the time 1 break u buy the next one.
Hell, you might even get the newer revision if you send your thing in to be repaired! Most times now they have a "Do you want the latest version?" thing on the forms and if you check it, you pay a little extra for a brand-new phone with the latest revisions to hardware.
This is just me thinking... But I'm sure there'll be ways to charge it on the go. The iPhone has plenty of mobile chargers that are just there to add more hours to your battery life.
So, who knows, maybe third parties will make something of a profit off this? Also, it's because of hackers that this happens. The few mess it up for the many, they say. So getting mad ONLY at Sony is a bit wrong, don't you think?
Again, this is one man's thoughts on the matter. Rate me how you will.
You know how it is. It's always the "Big evil corporation" that is at fault, never the individual. Everyone cheers when pirates break through security measures then bitch when Sony or MS or Nintendo do something to try and stop them.
Also, I think it has USB ports, so charging should be simple.
People are complaining about how the majority have to suffer or be deprived due to a asinine obsession and fear an insignificant minority.
Hell, apple damn near encourages hacking, and it seems to be doing pretty well for itself. Really other than changing your service from AT&T, nearly every hack of the iPhone, from cheats, to getting around iTunes copy management, to software limitations, or even being able to hack the bloddy camera program, seems to have just gone 'overlooked'.
Jeeze half the time those hacks just become apps.
...Because we don't like the "security" measures?
Anything that limits my ability to improve my hardware will always get a protest from me.
They're thinking. But they're just focusing on the people that are causing them problems.
And how to line their pockets.
If the battery becomes faulty, you'll be sending it to sony for a reasonable repair price.
You could get a more reasonable price if they allowed for some competition you know.
lol. this wont effect me at all, as i know enough about electronics to remove everything inside and put it togeather.
prehaps i can make a business around unlocking the psp, sense its FAR harder to do this time around, unlike the pandora battery of the past.
You act like they hacked it already. Who's to say that a pandora battery will even be needed. They had other work arounds to get cfw you know...
Not only that, this won't even make it that difficult, since pirates can just as easily break open (carefully) the device to reach directly the batteries, it only takes a little extra knowledge in electronics.
This^
$20 says people will be buying/selling modified cases and batteries.
Keima Katsuragi: Damn you pirates. Well at least I have.... UNLIMITED GAME WORKS!!
"if your psp2 battery dies, buy a new one"
yes they do think, too much.