“Give 3 Reasons Why This Character Isn’t Moe”
- Categories: Manga, News
- Date: Jan 15, 2011 13:41 JST
- Tags: 2ch, Character Design, Comparison, Illustration, Marketing, Mass Media, Moe, Otaku
A newspaper is recruiting writers by asking whether they can give three reasons as to why the above character isn’t moe.
Those capable of giving the “right” answer could find themselves with a chance of landing a position at the Kobe Shimbun as an online contributor, although due to government “job creation” conditions attached to the post they have to be unemployed to begin with.
Fortunately there are plenty of unemployed otaku on 2ch ready to offer opinions:
“Because it’s rubbish. As a result it doesn’t look cute.”
“The eyes are too big, the character is too blue, and it looks like a crude rip off of Hatsune Miku.”
“The colours are dull and too uniform, there’s no life to the eyes and the pose is weird.”
“The drawing is rough, I’m sure I’ve seen it somewhere before, and it’s all blue.”
“The moetards aren’t going to shut up about this. Nicely done, Kobe Shimbun.”
[Innumerable opinions follow, almost all criticising some combination of rough drawing, excessive blueness, huge eyes, obvious Miku similiarities and awkward posing.]
“Give three reasons why this character is cute.”
“The situation, her blushing and the fact she is wearing nothing but an open shirt.”
“Bed, Y-shirt, breasts.”
“Cute, breasts, I’m hard.”
[Thread denizens decide to take matters into their own hands:]
“You managed to turn it into an ordinary moe character – you guys are amazing…”






















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she's not moe because it's badly drawn.
^this
yes
exactly
Pretty sure there's a lot of badly drawn moe, does not disqualify.
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The one and sufficient reason.
The correct answer is: moe is subjective.
It's not really all that subjective, actually. Understanding the points of moe is crucial, even if one does not like a particular character itself.
You are welcome to your opinion, with which I do not agree. <.<
The artist just sucked. I think it really isn't moe to all.
I've seen moe described as "cute", and I've also seen it to describe things which are more sexualised. So which is it? Or is it both?
It depends on what gives you a certain feeling which is unfortunately difficult to describe.
Neither. Moe was originally supposed to be a sort of feeling you'd get like you wanted to protect the character, hug them, be like a big brother or parent/etc. Nowadays, it seems synonymous with kawaii, which makes it redundant.
But saying "moe = cute" is like saying "umami = salty."
Moe can mean many stuff
萌え~
There's a certain feeling I have when I see weapons especially cold weapons and medieval armours. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. ^_^
Why is she not moe?
Why because she has no backstory!
Allow me to remedy this:
She was a lowly, clumsy schoolgirl at a reputable 24-hr. a day attendance highschool where she was kidnapped by a newspaper and forced by the awful hands of the Flatworlders to become a picture whored around until a newspaper decided to troll 2ch which is where her adventure begins...
kowai
IMO it's actually pretty cute that someone draws like this... ~~'
The actual drawing though...*blergh*
Translators note: kowai means こわい
Kowai indeed
I guess you meant "kawaii", right?
I'm just glad anon didn't spell it as "kawai"
and I think Syobon really meant "kowai"
Not weaboo enough Anon.
Just one: My otaku sense aren't tingling.
Abstract Moe art!!!
Jackson Pollock will be proud
Give the artist at least 4 more years. Remember the Practice Makes Perfect article..
it's so hideous it is kind of moe to begin with.
like some sort of 2D busukawaii.
dissapoint this is not like those vipper threads. I kinda hoped the would made an awesome version of that one.
it's definitely the art...
improve the art a bit, and moetards will follow
Dunno why, but I find miserable poorly made things whom no one likes... moe.
heck it either has 3 legs or it has a huge dick. it's a monster.
please do not mock my potato
Some art kind alike with Lucky Star. Does it means Kagami Yoshimizu's art is not Moe?
remember who paid the bill? you owe me 20 bucks
- No expression
- Weird eyes
- No blush
And it's not a K-on! character! [joke]
But my version is weird too, I'm bad with drawing:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8/whyisthisnotmoe014.jpg
1. Ugly face
2. Bad proportions
3. Generally just a really bad drawing style...
Troll more, i like to see what else you got.
So, they have to formulate anti-otaku statements, i take it. How very fitting, if we consider the liberal middle-ages we now live in.
The eyes... These eyes really are just awful and would not pass as moe
Shape of the head moe characters have much smoother and rounder heads
if it is not adorable its not moe
11 is very cute.
1. Character proportions - To be chibi-like, the head is way too small, the body is way too large. Also, three legs.
2. Head (not the sex kind) - The eyes are extremely plain and don't fit with the character. I don't mind the puzzled look, but DEM EYES. Also, the hair (to a lesser extent) is boring and an extremely typical choice
3. Clothing - Her seifuku is horribly disfigured, and everything's the exact same colour (or white).
1. The eyes. They look too dilated, making her look like a zombie.
2. Overall color. Too much blue and lack of anything else. That's why most Sailor Fuku's are white with a touch of other colors on it. If you want a single color to define the whole subject, I suggest Red (eg Ferrari's trademark color).
3. Speaking of red, there's also the lack of blush, which also gives the impression that she's emotionless or even dead. Take for instance Saki (the titular character from that mahjong manga/anime).
Second to last one is moe imo
yeah, i'm too imo, that's moe
..after makeover of the original lol
Reason why she is moe.
She must have awesome story like Yotsuba Sugimoto.
She is now taking over the internet. Having being dubbed "いまいち" (Imaichi)
Here she is in MMD form
*Nico - sm13319739 / sm13320268
*Youtube - v=WXlqQxl8jxU / v=pTTzDfN-MCc
Ah wait full name er... title?
"いまいち萌えない娘"
Who was the genius troll who concocted the idea to make people fron 2ch to pivix and net artist to transform a (intentionally) badly done drawing into an internet character/meme? :)
Correct answer:
1) Eyes
2) Nose
3) Mouth
I Wonder why there hasn't been anyone who left the picture as is, I know there are moe rules but the eye of the beholder and all that XD
TL:DR - Bad art will ruin any moe characterization no matter what those moe elements are.
Seems to be mostly agreed upon that moe is basically the concept of tickling our instincts to protect, cherish, and nurture a character. Every aspect is considered as well: Appearance, background, personality, behavior, voice, etc. What exactly are the details is up to the person though, so it is certainly subjective and time will change what is common.
Going by static looks alone, there dose seem to be a pattern of physical traits that are appealing. Just being kawaii is too vague, however. Moe seems much more defined. For example, the original Hello Kitty artwork might be kawaii, but wouldn't be moe to many people. But, if you put her in a maid outfit, make her wink and blush a bit, put glasses on her, add a bit of a twinkle in her eye, and pose her standing with one knee bent and waving an arm, suddenly she turns very moe. Presentation makes all the difference.
In the drawing that started this whole discussion you can see not everyone agrees what traits are moe with the different attempts to improve it. Cheek blush seems to be the most common element people add in. My own analysis of the drawing:
OK elements: Pigtails, sitting posture, school uniform.
Negative elements: Eyes too big and dead looking, ahoge too small, face not round enough, no blush on the cheeks, mouth is awkward, nose position too high above the base of the ginormous eyes.
"Too much blue!" color criticism is less to do with moe and more to do with basic art elements being poorly used (color and value). Its just very boring and somewhat hard to make out shapes at first.
Looks like something out of Megatokyo...or any other "American Manga."
Anyone else thinking the "3rd leg" looks more like a foot? maybe it's just me
Nope. First part of the left leg we see is the area down to the knee. The supposed third part is just the lower leg area.
Simple to see if you look at the right leg and see that the lower sock has the same pattern as the supposed third part.